cyrodill rant

thegreat_one

Not a *** change, Everytime alot of people are disconnected because the area we are fighting in cannot hold that many players.

Just lost bleakers and ALes to a massive zerg of EP.

The population of the server should not be more than what one area of cyrodiil can handle.

It's time you subbers start asking where your money is going.... cause its not going into the hardware this game "runs" off of.

stpolaris

WasteOfTime wrote: »

Battlegrounds and Cyrodiil

We are very excited to offer new PvP possibilities with the introduction of 4v4v4 small-scale Battlegrounds in Morrowind. However, just because we are introducing Battlegrounds with Morrowind doesn't mean we are walking away from Cyrodiil. We consider open-world PvP to be separate from small-scale PvP, and we want to be sure that we offer - and fully support - both.

As for Cyrodiil: we know that performance (both server and client) is often not up to par, to put it mildly. These problems particularly plague Champion-ranked Campaigns and, coupled with some of the balance issues and bugs that are still present, result in an often-frustrating experience for some players. We will be addressing this in 2017 – from Champion System performance to class/armor balance to client/server performance in large battles. This is a priority for us, but as these issues are extremely complex, we will be re-thinking how some of the systems in the game interact with each other; changes of this magnitude cannot happen quickly. We are not taking this lightly – change needs to happen. We will have lots more information on Cyrodiil balance and fixes shortly, but right now, we are focusing on investigating and testing different options.

Matt Firor 02.01.2017

any day now.....

LOL!

thegreat_one

paying for this game was a big mistake

Jameliel

I've been putting in a complaint every single time it happens. Not that they even help, but every single time I inform z0$ that their trash servers disconnected me, and I inform them of how much ap I've lost/estimated I've lost.

Avnr

Aion?

Was option there to remove all friendly no group mates - lag gone

When you about to DC nothing move , and if you move into the keep you see enemy and friendly players that was very far from you , they maybe need to render only the close enemy & friendly players

terrannova

lol i love it how when server is a bit "friendlier" at me, everyone else has the same problem.

stpolaris wrote: »

This thread needs to be kept alive and at the top of the forum.

i hope it does bro

MajBludd

Maybe they can't fix it. Maybe it will be lag for another 3yrs? I don't know though, I've seen a lot more negative posts recently on the forums.

Seems more and more people, new players and old, are getting tired of problems not being fixed or even commented on. Especially on the pvp side.
Why, because they either don't care because of the lack of revenue that pvp brings, or they cant fix it. Meaning they don't have the resources to upgrade.
Why, idk? With the supposed millions of accounts they should generate a good amount of income. @ZOS_GinaBruno

Avnr

MajBludd wrote: »

Maybe they can't fix it. Maybe it will be lag for another 3yrs? I don't know though, I've seen a lot more negative posts recently on the forums.

Seems more and more people, new players and old, are getting tired of problems not being fixed or even commented on. Especially on the pvp side.
Why, because they either don't care because of the lack of revenue that pvp brings, or they cant fix it. Meaning they don't have the resources to upgrade.
Why, idk? With the supposed millions of accounts they should generate a good amount of income. @ZOS_GinaBruno

Pure PVE game


Thread about style or quest bug can fill 20 pages in an hour and a fast hot fix

antihero727

Shadowmaster wrote: »

Lamiai wrote: »

One day we might get lucky and they remove the FX patch that helped ruin performance in Cyro.. pigs might fly too.

it wasnt the fx patch it was the cheat engine checks

And we see how that turned out with unlimited mertor spam, super fast toons, flying toons and unlimited resources. It was so worth the small performance drop.

JD2013

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/54649

"If you’d like to learn even more about Murkmire, Creative Director Rich Lambert, Dungeon Lead Mike Finnigan, and PvP Lead Brian Wheeler will join the Community team in a panel to chat about the new zone (including its biomes and adventures), the new Blackrose Prison arena, and the changes coming to ESO’s open-world PvP game mode"

Changes coming to Cyrodiil with Update 20. Could be big-ish changes if they are talking about them on a panel.

xxthir13enxx

JD2013 wrote: »

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/54649

"If you’d like to learn even more about Murkmire, Creative Director Rich Lambert, Dungeon Lead Mike Finnigan, and PvP Lead Brian Wheeler will join the Community team in a panel to chat about the new zone (including its biomes and adventures), the new Blackrose Prison arena, and the changes coming to ESO’s open-world PvP game mode"

Changes coming to Cyrodiil with Update 20. Could be big-ish changes if they are talking about them on a panel.

This is just dangling a carrot on a stick...they did same thing just prior to Summerset release...and we all know how well that turned out....

Miswar

The ZoS will NOT do anything to improve Cyrodiil. I will bet any amount of game gold to that fact.

Just random words nothing else...

JD2013

Miswar wrote: »

The ZoS will NOT do anything to improve Cyrodiil. I will bet any amount of game gold to that fact.

Just random words nothing else...

We shall see.

The fact is that Cyrodiil has been broken for a long time, we know that, the devs know that.

I wonder if people here think that they enjoy having Cyrodiil as a broken component to their game? I sure as heck don't enjoy Cyrodiil being so broken and laggy and filled with exploits, neither does the rest of the playerbase.

Maybe they finally understand that they can't fix it and are going to change Cyrodiil? Maybe they are removing CP's from Cyrodiil? Or maybe they are just opening new campaigns? Who knows?

I'll be tuning into the live stream and watching with interest. If Brian Wheeler is there, they probably have something to say on the subject.

dmar613

JD2013 wrote: »

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/54649

"If you’d like to learn even more about Murkmire, Creative Director Rich Lambert, Dungeon Lead Mike Finnigan, and PvP Lead Brian Wheeler will join the Community team in a panel to chat about the new zone (including its biomes and adventures), the new Blackrose Prison arena, and the changes coming to ESO’s open-world PvP game mode"

Changes coming to Cyrodiil with Update 20. Could be big-ish changes if they are talking about them on a panel.

screen freezes or random load screens anyone?
yesh!

Thunderclap

And again. PVP EU Vivec. Fight for Ash. Run from Nik to Ash, pass the outer mg and the connection was gone.
A *** is this
I forgot i miss again the 20k tick

terrannova

JD2013 wrote: »

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/54649

"If you’d like to learn even more about Murkmire, Creative Director Rich Lambert, Dungeon Lead Mike Finnigan, and PvP Lead Brian Wheeler will join the Community team in a panel to chat about the new zone (including its biomes and adventures), the new Blackrose Prison arena, and the changes coming to ESO’s open-world PvP game mode"

Changes coming to Cyrodiil with Update 20. Could be big-ish changes if they are talking about them on a panel.

i hope they do, but i highly doubt they will. I honestly think they will only fix some minor things, like the wall hp, problems with doors, less loading screens(once again) and stuff ilke that. I believe that no major change will come so soon.

The stream will mostly be about "CHANGES" "CHANGES IN CYRODILL" , so people calm down , but those "changes" will have less or no impact to server performance. I dont even know if they are close to fixing the damn sprint bug, cause they were always just sayin "we are aware of the problem". But i still hope for the best

Thunderclap wrote: »

And again. PVP EU Vivec. Fight for Ash. Run from Nik to Ash, pass the outer mg and the connection was gone.
A *** is this
I forgot i miss again the 20k tick

yea bro i was there too. tried twice but no luck

Thunderclap

And again. PVP EU Vivec. Fight for Nik. During the fight and the connection was gone.
A *** is this

gp1680

Crashed again in Cyrodiil. Xbox na. Finally got back in only to crash again.

So zos, now that your hallowed dlc has been released, how about you spend some of my money on fixing the game?

xeNNNNN

terrannova wrote: »

Honestly i think eso would have double the active players with ease if the dev team was larger. The game would have a huge playerbase, cause people are still hungry for a good mmo but bethesda wants eso to be mediocre

This is....not really accurate, Zenimax Online studios is developing ESO and Bethesda Game Studios is working on ES VI (the reason they would want ESO to be mediocre).

However Zenimax Media Inc actually owns Bethesda they are the parent company of both development studios. It would be counter intuitive of a major Business to force competitive marketing between its own products they'd likely find some way to tie them into each other. So no I dont think they want the game to be mediocre I think they want it to be great but it could be that the priorities behind closed doors just arent up to spec (too much focus on one product instead of a more balanced approach - Hello Fallout 76 and DOOM ETERNAL - though I will admit i am very much looking forward to doom eternal).

Note: Zenimax Online Studios is NOT the same as Zenimax Media Inc. The former is a development studio (Online) where as the latter is a publisher and parent company (INC). On top of that, Bethesda game studios is also a sub division of Bethesda softworks which is also owned by Zenimax Media Inc and its the game studio which created the ES franchise or well relatively speaking AND ID software is also owned by the same media coporation. Seems like it just keeps going on forever doesn't it? lol

Its all available to read about online, fascinating reading if you're into that sort of thing because its actually kinda complicated haha.

MajBludd

Changes coming to cyro? What will they break this time?

TheHsN

He is all RIGHT about what he said... im a PVP fan also. since 1 month i try to play PVE but i got so bored to make all the time same things. so i start to look for now other games as alternative and i found some.

I have 12 char. and play since Beta
Content base game is going very good. But as performans you CANT PLAY THOSE CONTENTS.

They need huge changes for performans and balance...

Thunderclap

And again. PVP EU Vivec. Port from Drake to Sej. Was ua from "some" reds, arrived and the connection was gone.
A *** is this

gp1680

Bump to keep thread alive. Still crashing in Cyrodiil. Xbox na. Still no word from ZOS.

terrannova

gp1680 wrote: »

Bump to keep thread alive. Still crashing in Cyrodiil. Xbox na. Still no word from ZOS.

Eh no luck bro. In the livestream nothing was said about cyro's performance.. shame

alainjbrennanb16_ESO

Pvp is completely broken lag is one thing skills etc, and this part is directed at @ZOS_GinaBruno last night on EU Sothia it seems ad are doing it again and faction locking out EP with the queuing, having one person the leader as red and the other 23 as yellow then porting in and others hiding somewhere on their other accounts in pvp, which is known about, but i still can not find where, as last night it could be clearly seen there was very little ep around 50 players

aetherial_heavenn

JD2013 wrote: »

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/54649

"If you’d like to learn even more about Murkmire, Creative Director Rich Lambert, Dungeon Lead Mike Finnigan, and PvP Lead Brian Wheeler will join the Community team in a panel to chat about the new zone (including its biomes and adventures), the new Blackrose Prison arena, and the changes coming to ESO’s open-world PvP game mode"

Changes coming to Cyrodiil with Update 20. Could be big-ish changes if they are talking about them on a panel.

Map changes that funnel groups will just make the lag and disconnects worse. And encourage even more cc driven game play. Not happy.

Last 2 days.

Lost 2 huge ticks due to disconnect today.
Lost a keep due to 6 of 12person group dc-ing at critical push.
Lost raid leader 3 times in 30mins due to dcing.
Mass DC Disconnect everytime we approach large Ash keep fights and large groups at Bleakers.

Stacking time-stop permafrost and hard ccs at choke points is forcing small groups to heal stack and soloers to run stam 2 handers builds. It forces magplars to go vamp. . EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A ROLEPLAY GAME! (My breton templar is disgusted by this. ) It means large groups have a 'rapids guy' just to push into other groups open field.

Add to this the broken break free and non existant/buggy cc immunity that affects players with high ping disproportionately and pvp feels like wading through mud in the great war trenches. Realistic but not fun to do.
Please reconsider making stam skills or going vamp the only way to manage the new snare meta before introducing the new map

TL DR
Please spend resources on fixing the current performance of Cyrodil and reconsider the effect snare stacking meta and cc bugs have, before redesigning the map.

JD2013

aetherial_heavenn wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/54649

"If you’d like to learn even more about Murkmire, Creative Director Rich Lambert, Dungeon Lead Mike Finnigan, and PvP Lead Brian Wheeler will join the Community team in a panel to chat about the new zone (including its biomes and adventures), the new Blackrose Prison arena, and the changes coming to ESO’s open-world PvP game mode"

Changes coming to Cyrodiil with Update 20. Could be big-ish changes if they are talking about them on a panel.

Map changes that funnel groups will just make the lag and disconnects worse. And encourage even more cc driven game play. Not happy.

Last 2 days.

Lost 2 huge ticks due to disconnect today.
Lost a keep due to 6 of 12person group dc-ing at critical push.
Lost raid leader 3 times in 30mins due to dcing.
Mass DC Disconnect everytime we approach large Ash keep fights and large groups at Bleakers.

Stacking time-stop permafrost and hard ccs at choke points is forcing small groups to heal stack and soloers to run stam 2 handers builds. It forces magplars to go vamp. . EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A ROLEPLAY GAME! (My breton templar is disgusted by this. ) It means large groups have a 'rapids guy' just to push into other groups open field.

Add to this the broken break free and non existant/buggy cc immunity that affects players with high ping disproportionately and pvp feels like wading through mud in the great war trenches. Realistic but not fun to do.
Please reconsider making stam skills or going vamp the only way to manage the new snare meta before introducing the new map

TL DR
Please spend resources on fixing the current performance of Cyrodil and reconsider the effect snare stacking meta and cc bugs have, before redesigning the map.

Actually I completely agree. These changes are not enough for Cyrodiil at all. Disappointed, even though I am looking forward to smashing up bridges and gates

Miswar

JD2013 wrote: »

Miswar wrote: »

The ZoS will NOT do anything to improve Cyrodiil. I will bet any amount of game gold to that fact.

Just random words nothing else...

We shall see.

The fact is that Cyrodiil has been broken for a long time, we know that, the devs know that.

I wonder if people here think that they enjoy having Cyrodiil as a broken component to their game? I sure as heck don't enjoy Cyrodiil being so broken and laggy and filled with exploits, neither does the rest of the playerbase.

Maybe they finally understand that they can't fix it and are going to change Cyrodiil? Maybe they are removing CP's from Cyrodiil? Or maybe they are just opening new campaigns? Who knows?

I'll be tuning into the live stream and watching with interest. If Brian Wheeler is there, they probably have something to say on the subject.

I admire your optimism. However the let me guess. The ZoS panel amounted to no substance information? Just words on the wind....

Oh.. and I don't use any crystal balls... that is the standard 0% improvements made by ZoS.

Nerftheforums

Servers have been like this since I can remember (I'm not a beta player). I honestly lost hope in cyrodiil's performance, I Pvp only in non laggy time in weekends (until 1pm, lol), since prime time is basically impossible to play with skills firing 3s after the cast and no possibility to anicancel.

Obviously, I haven't payed for eso+ since a lot of time. How can you support a dev team that is unable to fix their product after so many years? You are losing money zos, and quite a lot of pvp players.

Thunderclap

And again. PVP EU Vivec. Fight for Alessia. Run from Fare to Alessia, touch the outer wall and the connection was gone.
A *** is this