DisgracefulMind wrote: »drakhan2002_ESO wrote: »hmsdragonfly wrote: »
The community has been asking for PvP events for a long time, you simply don't represent the community.
Mixing PvP and PvE achievements? These are 100% PvP achievments. If you don't enjoy PvP, don't take part in the event, no one forces you to do it.
Exactly the same argument back at you; you don't represent the community. My opinion, just as you have yours.
Neither select groups of PvE players or a select group of PvP players represent the whole community. However, we all collectively represent the community together. So everyone's opinion matters, but it just means one side or the other isn't going to get their way about it.
Rev Rielle wrote: »
It's a game; do what you like, don't do what you don't like.
Rainwhisper wrote: »mesmerizedish wrote: »Because it's a holiday event. Why would you assume that means exclusively PvE?
Because, typically in MMO's, and to-date in ESO, PvP events and PvE events are separate things.
drakhan2002_ESO wrote: »hmsdragonfly wrote: »
The community has been asking for PvP events for a long time, you simply don't represent the community.
Mixing PvP and PvE achievements? These are 100% PvP achievments. If you don't enjoy PvP, don't take part in the event, no one forces you to do it.
Exactly the same argument back at you; you don't represent the community. My opinion, just as you have yours.
Because I like you, let me offer some free advice - not everything is PvP - the forums are not, yet you feel the need to introduce PvP to them.
MaidenOregon wrote: »I mean, you have to go into PVP to go get rapids anyway.....
Everyone needs things from both. Vigor, rapids, warhorn, caltrops from PVP...
But why? Why is pvp such a hard 'no'?
It's baffling to me to say the least.
It's just a game. What's the difference between dying to mobs or players?
Like did something happen to you all in pvp that legit terrifies you to participate now?
... because it triggers your PvE exclusive completionism?
Cyrodiil needs new people and even if it may not work for you it will work for many others. Sure a lot will just leave and forget it like a scary dream, but even if just 1 out of 10 people stays it's already a success.
TheStealthDude wrote: »This thread is literally a complaint about the location of achievements in the log.
Rainwhisper wrote: »TheStealthDude wrote: »This thread is literally a complaint about the location of achievements in the log.
Read more closely. It's actually a discussion of concerns about the development philosophy of the game.
Rainwhisper wrote: »- People who are essentially playing Skyrim online, and not doing veteran or PvP content
- People who are focused on PvP
- People who are focused on veteran/"end-game" PvE content
- Social players who just want to connect with their friends
I'd prefer total segregation personally.
Hate PvP with a searing passion. The players' attitudes reek.
Rainwhisper wrote: »I realize that several members of the development team have described a vision for ESO where players move happily between PvE and PvP. I assume that making the "Midyear Mayhem" achievement a "Holiday Events" achievement instead of a "Player vs Player" achievement is likely another indicator of that goal.
I hope they will rethink that. Many of us PvE-only, carebear types enjoy collecting things like holiday achievements, and we tend to be completionists. If you're going to make a PvP achievement, please keep it under the PvP tree, instead of bleeding it into the PvE achievements.
Many of us play with a solid firewall between our gameplay and PvP. We know it exists, and some players really like it, but it never in any way intrudes on our Elder Scrolls experience. We like that firewall, and I sincerely hope that ZOS will maintain it.