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Enough is enough console player please read!
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hamburgerler76✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »SwaminoNowlino wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »
Xbox one x will as good as most high end pcs if not better it will render true 4k gaming and 60 fps or better depending how dev choose to use the extra power all you need to do is look at the specs buddy
Don't feed the "PC Master" trolls. And especially don't feed them with advertised specs for the One X. I've always played on console, but I am by no means a fan boy for one platform over the other. Honestly, if the One X delivers 50% of what is actually advertised when its actually in use I will be surprised. The PS4 Pro was supposed to revolutionize gaming, and it never lived up to the performance metrics advertised. The One X is highly unlikely to outperform the PS4 in any appreciable way. I'd love for it to, but to get similar performance on a PC, you would need a graphics card that costs more than the entire console. So they're definitely going cheap on the build somewhere (I see red rings of death in the future). But that's all just speculation. And not the point of this thread anyways.
TLDR: Console players are well aware of the console certification process. The console certification process excuse doesn't even fit, since Gina told us they weren't submitting it ASAP, but sticking it in a scheduled incremental instead. All us console players want is to get emergency patches for completely broken content in a timely fashion. If it costs ZOS money, then oh well. That's what they get for releasing busted content despite being warned.
Lol it already has they showed it off it it's up to dev to use the extra power but it's deff there
XB1X specs are on par with a mid-level gaming PC (GPU is usually the equivalent of an X60 Nvidia card). Consoles always release as mid-end gaming PCs. The XB1X is no different (most games will still be running at 30 fps). The cost to create an actual "high end" console would be enormous. Console manufacturers use cheap hardware and then game devs optimize games to squeeze out every last drop of performance from the hardware.
Ide love to see the mid teir pc that can hit 4k 60 fps on games like battle field for 500 bucks I'll get that instead lol1 -
hamburgerler76✭✭✭✭
People also forget we get Bugs PC players don't get like,Minor slayer being broken.hamburgerler76 wrote: »disintegr8 wrote: »The one advantage I get out of receiving updates after PC release is that I know what bugs I need to be prepared for and what fixes I can look forward to. Releasing the updates on PC before console does not mean issues don't reach console, just that we get them at a later date.
I will admit that I like to look at the PC release notes so I know what to expect when things come to console and I am generally aware, through using the forums, of most issues we are likely to face.
Maybe this means that PC users get to be 'guinea pigs' but it definitely does not stop console users from getting the same bugs.
Yea we may know what's coming but for some reason every pc owner thinks they beta test for us we get all the bugs and deal with them longer hands down.
100% there are so many examples this is just the latest0 -
hamburgerler76✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »DRXHarbinger wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »Console patches are delayed a few weeks for almost every multiplat game. Not sure why this is troubling you now. It's part of the territory of owning a console. Sony and MS make a mess out of patching.
Not sure how you arrived at this conclusion.
Official MS protocol is to queue a patch for verification for a week or so....
Patch released on PC instantly.
Patch on console can be sent to MS at this time for verification, So it should be week but nothing...
Zos confirm will be mid July for a fix that is know not to work on PC as of yesterday but still proceeds....
Arrives on console months later, as experienced by all on these platforms...will not work anyway, actual fix will be deployed later on, no ETA on an actual fix.
How do you arrive at "Sony and MS make a mess out of patching"? Serious question.
Again other developers have delivered patches in the promised time (that actually work) in far shorter time frames than ZOS.
And again....No console patch has ever ever ever arrived within "A few weeks" All Patches to date have come 2 months down the line at best, at present we never got an actual fix post homestead of any use to fix EG Maw being broken, it got ignored again and again until over 100 days later Morrowind dropped and low and behold it's still shite.
Failing to see how this is a MS and Sony issue, They just host and deliver. That is all, everything else is on ZOS.
PC players seem to think their world will end by consoles being looked after better, Almost like a child being told his parents are having another kid...AAAhhhhh My toys will be neglected.
Most of your patches come 2 weeks after the PC patch. That's 1 week for testing on PC and 1 week for certification (they don't want to have to be fixing two patches simultaneously). That seems pretty reasonable to me.
If some patches take longer than that, it's probably because they need to get more testing in on the PC side (see the Battlegrounds patch right now). Sure, in an ideal world they would have a large team for each platform, but that isn't feasible.
Again this is only dlc release and not what we are talking about bug fixes that you get in a day or a week we wait months for. For what zos called a incremental patch witch they bundle a bunch of pc patchest together to save money on cert please understand that1 -
hamburgerler76✭✭✭✭hamburgerler76 wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »DRXHarbinger wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »Console patches are delayed a few weeks for almost every multiplat game. Not sure why this is troubling you now. It's part of the territory of owning a console. Sony and MS make a mess out of patching.
Not sure how you arrived at this conclusion.
Official MS protocol is to queue a patch for verification for a week or so....
Patch released on PC instantly.
Patch on console can be sent to MS at this time for verification, So it should be week but nothing...
Zos confirm will be mid July for a fix that is know not to work on PC as of yesterday but still proceeds....
Arrives on console months later, as experienced by all on these platforms...will not work anyway, actual fix will be deployed later on, no ETA on an actual fix.
How do you arrive at "Sony and MS make a mess out of patching"? Serious question.
Again other developers have delivered patches in the promised time (that actually work) in far shorter time frames than ZOS.
And again....No console patch has ever ever ever arrived within "A few weeks" All Patches to date have come 2 months down the line at best, at present we never got an actual fix post homestead of any use to fix EG Maw being broken, it got ignored again and again until over 100 days later Morrowind dropped and low and behold it's still shite.
Failing to see how this is a MS and Sony issue, They just host and deliver. That is all, everything else is on ZOS.
PC players seem to think their world will end by consoles being looked after better, Almost like a child being told his parents are having another kid...AAAhhhhh My toys will be neglected.
Most of your patches come 2 weeks after the PC patch. That's 1 week for testing on PC and 1 week for certification (they don't want to have to be fixing two patches simultaneously). That seems pretty reasonable to me.
If some patches take longer than that, it's probably because they need to get more testing in on the PC side (see the Battlegrounds patch right now). Sure, in an ideal world they would have a large team for each platform, but that isn't feasible.
Again this is only dlc release and not what we are talking about bug fixes that you get in a day or a week we wait months for. For what zos called a incremental patch witch they bundle a bunch of pc patchest together to save money on cert please understand that
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✭✭✭✭✭hamburgerler76 wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »SwaminoNowlino wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »
Xbox one x will as good as most high end pcs if not better it will render true 4k gaming and 60 fps or better depending how dev choose to use the extra power all you need to do is look at the specs buddy
Don't feed the "PC Master" trolls. And especially don't feed them with advertised specs for the One X. I've always played on console, but I am by no means a fan boy for one platform over the other. Honestly, if the One X delivers 50% of what is actually advertised when its actually in use I will be surprised. The PS4 Pro was supposed to revolutionize gaming, and it never lived up to the performance metrics advertised. The One X is highly unlikely to outperform the PS4 in any appreciable way. I'd love for it to, but to get similar performance on a PC, you would need a graphics card that costs more than the entire console. So they're definitely going cheap on the build somewhere (I see red rings of death in the future). But that's all just speculation. And not the point of this thread anyways.
TLDR: Console players are well aware of the console certification process. The console certification process excuse doesn't even fit, since Gina told us they weren't submitting it ASAP, but sticking it in a scheduled incremental instead. All us console players want is to get emergency patches for completely broken content in a timely fashion. If it costs ZOS money, then oh well. That's what they get for releasing busted content despite being warned.
Lol it already has they showed it off it it's up to dev to use the extra power but it's deff there
XB1X specs are on par with a mid-level gaming PC (GPU is usually the equivalent of an X60 Nvidia card). Consoles always release as mid-end gaming PCs. The XB1X is no different (most games will still be running at 30 fps). The cost to create an actual "high end" console would be enormous. Console manufacturers use cheap hardware and then game devs optimize games to squeeze out every last drop of performance from the hardware.
Ide love to see the mid teir pc that can hit 4k 60 fps on games like battle field for 500 bucks I'll get that instead lol
You're not going to be able to build a mid-end gaming PC for $500, but definitely for ~$700-800. There is no denying that consoles give more bang for you buck (because console manufacturer's use custom hardware that has had certain features shaved off, plus they buy hardware in bulk). But giving more bang for your buck =/= competing with high end gaming PCs.Edited by MLGProPlayer on 21 June 2017 00:270 -
hamburgerler76✭✭✭✭You literally stated the purpose 90% console gamers are on console we can't afford major gaming pc 700 800$ but hopefully you see console just as good now 60 fps 4k 12 gb ram consoles are catching up and pc gamers have to accept that1
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✭✭✭✭✭hamburgerler76 wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »DRXHarbinger wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »Console patches are delayed a few weeks for almost every multiplat game. Not sure why this is troubling you now. It's part of the territory of owning a console. Sony and MS make a mess out of patching.
Not sure how you arrived at this conclusion.
Official MS protocol is to queue a patch for verification for a week or so....
Patch released on PC instantly.
Patch on console can be sent to MS at this time for verification, So it should be week but nothing...
Zos confirm will be mid July for a fix that is know not to work on PC as of yesterday but still proceeds....
Arrives on console months later, as experienced by all on these platforms...will not work anyway, actual fix will be deployed later on, no ETA on an actual fix.
How do you arrive at "Sony and MS make a mess out of patching"? Serious question.
Again other developers have delivered patches in the promised time (that actually work) in far shorter time frames than ZOS.
And again....No console patch has ever ever ever arrived within "A few weeks" All Patches to date have come 2 months down the line at best, at present we never got an actual fix post homestead of any use to fix EG Maw being broken, it got ignored again and again until over 100 days later Morrowind dropped and low and behold it's still shite.
Failing to see how this is a MS and Sony issue, They just host and deliver. That is all, everything else is on ZOS.
PC players seem to think their world will end by consoles being looked after better, Almost like a child being told his parents are having another kid...AAAhhhhh My toys will be neglected.
Most of your patches come 2 weeks after the PC patch. That's 1 week for testing on PC and 1 week for certification (they don't want to have to be fixing two patches simultaneously). That seems pretty reasonable to me.
If some patches take longer than that, it's probably because they need to get more testing in on the PC side (see the Battlegrounds patch right now). Sure, in an ideal world they would have a large team for each platform, but that isn't feasible.
Again this is only dlc release and not what we are talking about bug fixes that you get in a day or a week we wait months for. For what zos called a incremental patch witch they bundle a bunch of pc patchest together to save money on cert please understand that
Only major dlc drops like thieves guild morrowind stuff like that do we get 2 weeks after you nothing else
Gotchya. I thought it was everything.
In that case, major bug fixes should definitely be rolled out sooner.
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Show me a build for a gaming PC that can run games at 4k with 60 FPS for 700-800$ to get a PC to do that it's at least a grand.Most of those are on the High end gaming scale of PC.MLGProPlayer wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »SwaminoNowlino wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »
Xbox one x will as good as most high end pcs if not better it will render true 4k gaming and 60 fps or better depending how dev choose to use the extra power all you need to do is look at the specs buddy
Don't feed the "PC Master" trolls. And especially don't feed them with advertised specs for the One X. I've always played on console, but I am by no means a fan boy for one platform over the other. Honestly, if the One X delivers 50% of what is actually advertised when its actually in use I will be surprised. The PS4 Pro was supposed to revolutionize gaming, and it never lived up to the performance metrics advertised. The One X is highly unlikely to outperform the PS4 in any appreciable way. I'd love for it to, but to get similar performance on a PC, you would need a graphics card that costs more than the entire console. So they're definitely going cheap on the build somewhere (I see red rings of death in the future). But that's all just speculation. And not the point of this thread anyways.
TLDR: Console players are well aware of the console certification process. The console certification process excuse doesn't even fit, since Gina told us they weren't submitting it ASAP, but sticking it in a scheduled incremental instead. All us console players want is to get emergency patches for completely broken content in a timely fashion. If it costs ZOS money, then oh well. That's what they get for releasing busted content despite being warned.
Lol it already has they showed it off it it's up to dev to use the extra power but it's deff there
XB1X specs are on par with a mid-level gaming PC (GPU is usually the equivalent of an X60 Nvidia card). Consoles always release as mid-end gaming PCs. The XB1X is no different (most games will still be running at 30 fps). The cost to create an actual "high end" console would be enormous. Console manufacturers use cheap hardware and then game devs optimize games to squeeze out every last drop of performance from the hardware.
Ide love to see the mid teir pc that can hit 4k 60 fps on games like battle field for 500 bucks I'll get that instead lol
You're not going to be able to build a mid-end gaming PC for $500, but definitely for ~$700-800. There is no denying that consoles give more bang for your buck (because console manufacturer's use custom hardware that has had certain features shaved off, plus they buy hardware in bulk). But giving more bang for your buck =/= competing with gaming PCs.1 -
hamburgerler76✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »DRXHarbinger wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »Console patches are delayed a few weeks for almost every multiplat game. Not sure why this is troubling you now. It's part of the territory of owning a console. Sony and MS make a mess out of patching.
Not sure how you arrived at this conclusion.
Official MS protocol is to queue a patch for verification for a week or so....
Patch released on PC instantly.
Patch on console can be sent to MS at this time for verification, So it should be week but nothing...
Zos confirm will be mid July for a fix that is know not to work on PC as of yesterday but still proceeds....
Arrives on console months later, as experienced by all on these platforms...will not work anyway, actual fix will be deployed later on, no ETA on an actual fix.
How do you arrive at "Sony and MS make a mess out of patching"? Serious question.
Again other developers have delivered patches in the promised time (that actually work) in far shorter time frames than ZOS.
And again....No console patch has ever ever ever arrived within "A few weeks" All Patches to date have come 2 months down the line at best, at present we never got an actual fix post homestead of any use to fix EG Maw being broken, it got ignored again and again until over 100 days later Morrowind dropped and low and behold it's still shite.
Failing to see how this is a MS and Sony issue, They just host and deliver. That is all, everything else is on ZOS.
PC players seem to think their world will end by consoles being looked after better, Almost like a child being told his parents are having another kid...AAAhhhhh My toys will be neglected.
Most of your patches come 2 weeks after the PC patch. That's 1 week for testing on PC and 1 week for certification (they don't want to have to be fixing two patches simultaneously). That seems pretty reasonable to me.
If some patches take longer than that, it's probably because they need to get more testing in on the PC side (see the Battlegrounds patch right now). Sure, in an ideal world they would have a large team for each platform, but that isn't feasible.
Again this is only dlc release and not what we are talking about bug fixes that you get in a day or a week we wait months for. For what zos called a incremental patch witch they bundle a bunch of pc patchest together to save money on cert please understand that
Only major dlc drops like thieves guild morrowind stuff like that do we get 2 weeks after you nothing else
Gotchya. I thought it was everything.
In that case, major bug fixes should definitely be rolled out sooner.
Deleted older posts.
Literally only thing this post is asking for that zos stop trying to save money on console players especially on content like morrowind BG that we had to pay 40$ for4 -
eso_lags✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Not gonna read all these comments but ill give my input. I play xbox, i have played some pc but not much, and i have used the PTS for the last few updates. I have made similar posts a few times, to me as a player it seems like zos does not play/care about console. There is always something severely broken that never gets fixed. Vma crashing and lagging. Maw crashing and lagging (worse than vma). But the one that really aggravates and gets to me is the PVP lag.
If there is 20-30 plus people in one area in cyrodil, say around a keep, you cannot pvp and certainly not solo pvp. Its UNPLAYABLE LAG, and its a joke. I love solo pvp, its all i want to do, and for months and months it just gets harder and harder. The zergs/groups benefit from the lag. Every skill of mine that doesn't go off they get more chances, every time something screws up they get more chances. I have videos of what looks to me like 2 frames per second, only being able to cast every 1/4 skills. Its awful and has been for a long time. Ive seen PC players having huge bridge fights and we do to, but its miserable. Its the most non-competitive type of combat and i dont mean right in the mix of things, even on the edge or meters away just trying to get a fight its still awful.. This game has turned into zerg vs zerg, at least on xbox, and small scale is almost nowhere. This makes kiting people so hard because you kite from the zerg you still get lag from the zerg.
I've been asking @ZOS_GinaBruno and others to acknowledge this and just say either sorry this is how it is, or it will get better with next gen... ANYTHING. But ive never seen them acknowledge it anywhere.. So ya I am definitely sick of how console has been treated, with the lag especially, and with other things as well.
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✭✭@Karivaa YES! this is what ive said they should do, players would rather them take it down, take time and actually fix it. But whenever they take it down for a long time (6-8 hours) its just to put in a new update with a ton of new bugs.
One problem zos has is that they cannot or will not be honest with us. I lose a lot of respect for them over that.3 -
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✭I play eso on both pc and ps4.
I hate the almost weekly patch on pc. Although playing in pc is better.
I love the seldom patch on ps4. Playing on ps4 is quite laggy.
My pc is a win7 64 bit ult. Amd a8 7600 cpu 8gb ram 128 bit 1gb r250 vc.
I play on pc with low settings with smooth 60 fps.
I play on ps4 on high settings compared to my pc on poor fps. It lags.
I guess more patches makes the game better.
Ps4 get less patches than pc.
So playing on pc is better.0 -
Dr.NRG✭✭✭✭The morrowinf patch is a joke anyway. Yes they fixed some balance and did a great job on the cp system but the made everything worse by removing cp from bg and pvp campaigns. Now we got 1 campaign left and que times are even more ridiculous.
Your not even listening too us ZOS it has been made clear so many times that proc sets and poisons are broken in pvp and 80% or more of all pvpers dont want them! Now what do you do? You created a patch that completely revived the poison proc meta that you halfa** tryed to fix the last patch.
On Top of that you made us pay extra for morrowind and sht aint working! Even pve! It is so laggy in morrowind that you are getting a headache after playing for just a bit.Edited by Dr.NRG on 21 June 2017 04:38.2 -
Dr.NRG✭✭✭✭I was so exited for morrowind and playing the warden and now I barly even play the game anymore cause it is so hard to enjoy:(.5
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nick_dean14✭✭✭It really is quite telling that, after 5 pages, half of all the comments are from console players having to reiterate what they're complaining about after a PC player turns up to blame a 6 week delay on a 1 week Sony/Microsoft verification process, and the only two posts from Zenimax are to delete comments rather than offer any response.
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✭✭✭✭✭Personally i don't live on the game. So id vote for more downtime if they fixed all the bugs.Xbox One | EU | EP
Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
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Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master
Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders
Xbox One | NA | EP
Bëardimus : L43 Dunmer Magsorc / BG
Heals-With-Pets : VR16 Argonian Sorc PvP / BG Healer
Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
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✭✭All of the above is why I dumped this on xb and resurrected my pc account...but I play with 11 others only who I worked with around Europe back in the day and just run trial and run troll 12× destructive mage wielding sorc heavy attackers and make people go pop instantly.
No more do Martha senche, elk and houses and other expensive purchases. No cosmetics of any kind, no sub. Have a personal guild bank can live without the craft bag. No more support of zos. Cannot condone it by the way we got treated. It is just a time sink and something to so playing with old friends who live in Greece, Turkey, Morocco and Finland. That is all. If console players want zos to take note then just all cancel subs and stop buying *** in the clown store.PC Master Race
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hamburgerler76✭✭✭✭
Show me a build for a gaming PC that can run games at 4k with 60 FPS for 700-800$ to get a PC to do that it's at least a grand.Most of those are on the High end gaming scale of PC.MLGProPlayer wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »SwaminoNowlino wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »
Xbox one x will as good as most high end pcs if not better it will render true 4k gaming and 60 fps or better depending how dev choose to use the extra power all you need to do is look at the specs buddy
Don't feed the "PC Master" trolls. And especially don't feed them with advertised specs for the One X. I've always played on console, but I am by no means a fan boy for one platform over the other. Honestly, if the One X delivers 50% of what is actually advertised when its actually in use I will be surprised. The PS4 Pro was supposed to revolutionize gaming, and it never lived up to the performance metrics advertised. The One X is highly unlikely to outperform the PS4 in any appreciable way. I'd love for it to, but to get similar performance on a PC, you would need a graphics card that costs more than the entire console. So they're definitely going cheap on the build somewhere (I see red rings of death in the future). But that's all just speculation. And not the point of this thread anyways.
TLDR: Console players are well aware of the console certification process. The console certification process excuse doesn't even fit, since Gina told us they weren't submitting it ASAP, but sticking it in a scheduled incremental instead. All us console players want is to get emergency patches for completely broken content in a timely fashion. If it costs ZOS money, then oh well. That's what they get for releasing busted content despite being warned.
Lol it already has they showed it off it it's up to dev to use the extra power but it's deff there
XB1X specs are on par with a mid-level gaming PC (GPU is usually the equivalent of an X60 Nvidia card). Consoles always release as mid-end gaming PCs. The XB1X is no different (most games will still be running at 30 fps). The cost to create an actual "high end" console would be enormous. Console manufacturers use cheap hardware and then game devs optimize games to squeeze out every last drop of performance from the hardware.
Ide love to see the mid teir pc that can hit 4k 60 fps on games like battle field for 500 bucks I'll get that instead lol
You're not going to be able to build a mid-end gaming PC for $500, but definitely for ~$700-800. There is no denying that consoles give more bang for your buck (because console manufacturer's use custom hardware that has had certain features shaved off, plus they buy hardware in bulk). But giving more bang for your buck =/= competing with gaming PCs.
Yea I mean the console specs speak for itself I mean it's deff a beast of a machine compared to the majority of gaming pcs atleast that's how I feel and it alreay@SwaminoNowlino
Only your post is invalidated. Because you see that the PC players might get the patch sooner than the console people would but then that violates the terms of service of the Xbox uploaders. So when the code doesn't match, the code doesn't match. The main problems is that ZoS doesn't get the patches ready to Microsoft until the PC beta testers have tried it on the PTS. Therefore the end users of that content are null and void. The only way to speed up the patch process is to put a banana in your Xbox until the money pops out.
Why didn't you think of that?
#getTrolledScrub #grammar #getRekt #noETA #otherEsoMemes
Your 100% wrong good try though please troll some where else or atleast read the thread you have no idea what your talking about0 -
iGuavaTH✭✭✭DRXHarbinger wrote: »If console players want zos to take note then just all cancel subs and stop buying *** in the clown store.
As of tomorrow I am sub-free and will stay so until things improve and until Morrowind becomes available in Asia.0 -
hamburgerler76✭✭✭✭The morrowinf patch is a joke anyway. Yes they fixed some balance and did a great job on the cp system but the made everything worse by removing cp from bg and pvp campaigns. Now we got 1 campaign left and que times are even more ridiculous.
Your not even listening too us ZOS it has been made clear so many times that proc sets and poisons are broken in pvp and 80% or more of all pvpers dont want them! Now what do you do? You created a patch that completely revived the poison proc meta that you halfa** tryed to fix the last patch.
On Top of that you made us pay extra for morrowind and sht aint working! Even pve! It is so laggy in morrowind that you are getting a headache after playing for just a bit.
Please stay on topic this is not a morrowind complaint thread but a thread about the fact that we only get dlc updates 2 weeks after pc but bug fixes or anything like that we wait months for some timesEdited by hamburgerler76 on 21 June 2017 10:220 -
hamburgerler76✭✭✭✭@ZOS_GinaBruno how much do we need to speak up to get you to say anything?? This is page after page of console players fed up with how this game is managed in console and comment after comment of pc players putting us down cuss of how we play step in say anything say you will look into it say f off we hate you and just want your money just say anything 6k views how much do we need?!?!?Edited by hamburgerler76 on 21 June 2017 10:251
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✭✭hamburgerler76 wrote: »@ZOS_GinaBruno how much do we need to speak up to get you to say anything?? This is page after page of console players fed up with how this game is managed in console and comment after comment of pc players putting us down cuss of how we play step in say anything say you will look into it say f off we hate you and just want your money just say anything 6k views how much do we need?!?!?
They don't read these reads or answer them. Look at the old vmol thread near 300k views and they ignored the last 1.5 months of it.PC Master Race
1001CP
8 Flawless Toons, all Classes.
Master Angler
Dro-M'artha Destroyer (at last)
Tamriel Hero
Grand Overlord
Every Skyshard
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✭✭✭✭✭DRXHarbinger wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »@ZOS_GinaBruno how much do we need to speak up to get you to say anything?? This is page after page of console players fed up with how this game is managed in console and comment after comment of pc players putting us down cuss of how we play step in say anything say you will look into it say f off we hate you and just want your money just say anything 6k views how much do we need?!?!?
They don't read these reads or answer them. Look at the old vmol thread near 300k views and they ignored the last 1.5 months of it.
It took them 2 years to reduce aoe caps.
Remember the aoe caps thread? Thousands of responses to the poll with thousands of comments.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »DRXHarbinger wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »@ZOS_GinaBruno how much do we need to speak up to get you to say anything?? This is page after page of console players fed up with how this game is managed in console and comment after comment of pc players putting us down cuss of how we play step in say anything say you will look into it say f off we hate you and just want your money just say anything 6k views how much do we need?!?!?
They don't read these reads or answer them. Look at the old vmol thread near 300k views and they ignored the last 1.5 months of it.
It took them 2 years to reduce aoe caps.
Remember the aoe caps thread? Thousands of responses to the poll with thousands of comments.
Lol yeah. And in fact it made proxy a joke now. I got hit the other day for 22k with a proxy det. Definitely made breaching a little harder and longer. Who knows in 2 years time we may have the damage limitation on the 7th enemy onwards being removed...PC Master Race
1001CP
8 Flawless Toons, all Classes.
Master Angler
Dro-M'artha Destroyer (at last)
Tamriel Hero
Grand Overlord
Every Skyshard
Down With BOP!0 -
hamburgerler76✭✭✭✭DRXHarbinger wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »DRXHarbinger wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »@ZOS_GinaBruno how much do we need to speak up to get you to say anything?? This is page after page of console players fed up with how this game is managed in console and comment after comment of pc players putting us down cuss of how we play step in say anything say you will look into it say f off we hate you and just want your money just say anything 6k views how much do we need?!?!?
They don't read these reads or answer them. Look at the old vmol thread near 300k views and they ignored the last 1.5 months of it.
It took them 2 years to reduce aoe caps.
Remember the aoe caps thread? Thousands of responses to the poll with thousands of comments.
Lol yeah. And in fact it made proxy a joke now. I got hit the other day for 22k with a proxy det. Definitely made breaching a little harder and longer. Who knows in 2 years time we may have the damage limitation on the 7th enemy onwards being removed...
Let's try to stay stay on topic this thread is for the fact that they delay console patches on purpose to group them together to save money making us deal eith bugs for months some times longer then pc only big content and dlc release do we get 2 weeks after pc0 -
hamburgerler76✭✭✭✭GrumpyMuffin wrote: »DRXHarbinger wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »@ZOS_GinaBruno how much do we need to speak up to get you to say anything?? This is page after page of console players fed up with how this game is managed in console and comment after comment of pc players putting us down cuss of how we play step in say anything say you will look into it say f off we hate you and just want your money just say anything 6k views how much do we need?!?!?
They don't read these reads or answer them. Look at the old vmol thread near 300k views and they ignored the last 1.5 months of it.
Just remember how much they value your custom when they sell new DLC/Crates etc and stay well clear. You can't be bothered to fix what we have already paid for, so why should I give you more money for even more broken stuff. Once the accountants get upset they will finally stop ignoring paying customers
Yea this is why we are calling them out they made us pay 40 on top of eso plus and now we are having fixes delayed to save them money0 -
BigES✭✭✭✭✭hamburgerler76 wrote: »
Show me a build for a gaming PC that can run games at 4k with 60 FPS for 700-800$ to get a PC to do that it's at least a grand.Most of those are on the High end gaming scale of PC.MLGProPlayer wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »SwaminoNowlino wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »
Xbox one x will as good as most high end pcs if not better it will render true 4k gaming and 60 fps or better depending how dev choose to use the extra power all you need to do is look at the specs buddy
Don't feed the "PC Master" trolls. And especially don't feed them with advertised specs for the One X. I've always played on console, but I am by no means a fan boy for one platform over the other. Honestly, if the One X delivers 50% of what is actually advertised when its actually in use I will be surprised. The PS4 Pro was supposed to revolutionize gaming, and it never lived up to the performance metrics advertised. The One X is highly unlikely to outperform the PS4 in any appreciable way. I'd love for it to, but to get similar performance on a PC, you would need a graphics card that costs more than the entire console. So they're definitely going cheap on the build somewhere (I see red rings of death in the future). But that's all just speculation. And not the point of this thread anyways.
TLDR: Console players are well aware of the console certification process. The console certification process excuse doesn't even fit, since Gina told us they weren't submitting it ASAP, but sticking it in a scheduled incremental instead. All us console players want is to get emergency patches for completely broken content in a timely fashion. If it costs ZOS money, then oh well. That's what they get for releasing busted content despite being warned.
Lol it already has they showed it off it it's up to dev to use the extra power but it's deff there
XB1X specs are on par with a mid-level gaming PC (GPU is usually the equivalent of an X60 Nvidia card). Consoles always release as mid-end gaming PCs. The XB1X is no different (most games will still be running at 30 fps). The cost to create an actual "high end" console would be enormous. Console manufacturers use cheap hardware and then game devs optimize games to squeeze out every last drop of performance from the hardware.
Ide love to see the mid teir pc that can hit 4k 60 fps on games like battle field for 500 bucks I'll get that instead lol
You're not going to be able to build a mid-end gaming PC for $500, but definitely for ~$700-800. There is no denying that consoles give more bang for your buck (because console manufacturer's use custom hardware that has had certain features shaved off, plus they buy hardware in bulk). But giving more bang for your buck =/= competing with gaming PCs.
Yea I mean the console specs speak for itself I mean it's deff a beast of a machine compared to the majority of gaming pcs atleast that's how I feel and it alreay@SwaminoNowlino
Only your post is invalidated. Because you see that the PC players might get the patch sooner than the console people would but then that violates the terms of service of the Xbox uploaders. So when the code doesn't match, the code doesn't match. The main problems is that ZoS doesn't get the patches ready to Microsoft until the PC beta testers have tried it on the PTS. Therefore the end users of that content are null and void. The only way to speed up the patch process is to put a banana in your Xbox until the money pops out.
Why didn't you think of that?
#getTrolledScrub #grammar #getRekt #noETA #otherEsoMemes
Your 100% wrong good try though please troll some where else or atleast read the thread you have no idea what your talking about
Lol @ the fact that I can just construct sentences upon sentences of nonsensical words and someone actually attempted to decipher it.
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hamburgerler76✭✭✭✭hamburgerler76 wrote: »
Show me a build for a gaming PC that can run games at 4k with 60 FPS for 700-800$ to get a PC to do that it's at least a grand.Most of those are on the High end gaming scale of PC.MLGProPlayer wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »SwaminoNowlino wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »
Xbox one x will as good as most high end pcs if not better it will render true 4k gaming and 60 fps or better depending how dev choose to use the extra power all you need to do is look at the specs buddy
Don't feed the "PC Master" trolls. And especially don't feed them with advertised specs for the One X. I've always played on console, but I am by no means a fan boy for one platform over the other. Honestly, if the One X delivers 50% of what is actually advertised when its actually in use I will be surprised. The PS4 Pro was supposed to revolutionize gaming, and it never lived up to the performance metrics advertised. The One X is highly unlikely to outperform the PS4 in any appreciable way. I'd love for it to, but to get similar performance on a PC, you would need a graphics card that costs more than the entire console. So they're definitely going cheap on the build somewhere (I see red rings of death in the future). But that's all just speculation. And not the point of this thread anyways.
TLDR: Console players are well aware of the console certification process. The console certification process excuse doesn't even fit, since Gina told us they weren't submitting it ASAP, but sticking it in a scheduled incremental instead. All us console players want is to get emergency patches for completely broken content in a timely fashion. If it costs ZOS money, then oh well. That's what they get for releasing busted content despite being warned.
Lol it already has they showed it off it it's up to dev to use the extra power but it's deff there
XB1X specs are on par with a mid-level gaming PC (GPU is usually the equivalent of an X60 Nvidia card). Consoles always release as mid-end gaming PCs. The XB1X is no different (most games will still be running at 30 fps). The cost to create an actual "high end" console would be enormous. Console manufacturers use cheap hardware and then game devs optimize games to squeeze out every last drop of performance from the hardware.
Ide love to see the mid teir pc that can hit 4k 60 fps on games like battle field for 500 bucks I'll get that instead lol
You're not going to be able to build a mid-end gaming PC for $500, but definitely for ~$700-800. There is no denying that consoles give more bang for your buck (because console manufacturer's use custom hardware that has had certain features shaved off, plus they buy hardware in bulk). But giving more bang for your buck =/= competing with gaming PCs.
Yea I mean the console specs speak for itself I mean it's deff a beast of a machine compared to the majority of gaming pcs atleast that's how I feel and it alreay@SwaminoNowlino
Only your post is invalidated. Because you see that the PC players might get the patch sooner than the console people would but then that violates the terms of service of the Xbox uploaders. So when the code doesn't match, the code doesn't match. The main problems is that ZoS doesn't get the patches ready to Microsoft until the PC beta testers have tried it on the PTS. Therefore the end users of that content are null and void. The only way to speed up the patch process is to put a banana in your Xbox until the money pops out.
Why didn't you think of that?
#getTrolledScrub #grammar #getRekt #noETA #otherEsoMemes
Your 100% wrong good try though please troll some where else or atleast read the thread you have no idea what your talking about
Lol @ the fact that I can just construct sentences upon sentences of nonsensical words and someone actually attempted to decipher it.
Thanks for your comment that has nothing to do with the thread please troll else where this is a serious thread0