LOL.

Lol go out to open world, try to take on 3 people then remember that when you're snared and rooted you can't do anything about it, your merciless resolve will only work if it feels like it, your 2 shields aren't enough to keep you alive cause you're rooted and you can't get away, and maybe you do set up 4 light attacks and you're about to deliver the killing blow but dodge chance screws you over. Yea mageblade is bad for open world.

Once you "turtle up" with a magblade the fight is over. Your shields will not save you. The only way to effectively PvP with a magblade is to constantly apply pressure to your enemy. If you stop to shield up, they will quickly burst your shields down and destroy you.

Your 22 k health is nothing, so snipe medium weave snipe and your dead. Light armor lacks any real resistance and a stamblade will burst you down in two seconds.

Siphoning Strikes will keep your stam up as long as your applying pressure to your enemy, stop to turtle up and there goes all your stam.

Point of rant, magblades are decent in 1v1 and duels, open world, they get destroyed every 2 seconds, especially in melee range.

Kidz_BeAstx wrote: »

@Xvorg I was in Aurdion when I took that picture. And how are you going to tell me that 50k max magicka is not enough max magicka? If I was in Cyrodiil then it would be more like 22k health because of 5 1 1. You can clearly tell that I am not though because you cannot get bounties in Cyrodiil... No, I am not trolling. I honestly do not understand how people are not allowed to speak their minds on the forums without being called a troll.

Also, I am using 5 julionos, 5 necropontance, 1 grothdarr. I am not really on spell damage to get DPS, when I buff up with just entropy out of stealth it goes up to 2500 spell damage.

"16k health is not enough health in Cyrodiil"... Look at the upper right corner of the picture.

1- Ok, the max magicka is buffed, right?In Cyro it doesn't matter 50K magicka if you need to cloak or cast shadows to get the numbers. Same in the case of using necropotence in a mageblade. Those are more for a PVE build rather than a PvP build.

2- 22K health are not gonna save you either. In cyro, if you want to do smething as a magebade you need at least 25K and 5 pieces HA.

3- You do have the right to give your opinion, but at least hear other's opinions and xp regarding the issue. What you are showing is a picture ad not a video showing your playing style. Anyone can get those numbers if he builds towards that.

4- . 5 Julianos and 5 necro is not a good combo for mageblade. Julianos doesn't give anything to the Mageblade playing style, and 5 necro is somewhat useful in a fight (nothing else). In fact 4 pieces necro is beter than 5 pieces in a mageblade and gives you space to use 2 grothdar (which is more helpful). 5 pieces rattlecage are way better than 5 pieces julianos if you aim for spell dmg (358 spell dmg + major sorc for free). You can combine that with good old willpower + any monster set and a MS destro staff to get even better numbers. Good thing is that HA synergizes well with the shadow passives, or, if you prefer, combine Rattlecage with Seducer to get a good cost reduction.

Kidz_BeAstx wrote: »

@Articulemort It's a thing known as Destruction staff ultimate. Now there you go, I am OP in open world.

So your main to go reason for being OP is a weapon ult that every single class as access to...

By your reasoning all Mag builds are OP in Pvp.

Any class can max out magicka and hit hard with the destro ult, too bad stam builds can and will just roll dodge out of it, or rather walk out because it isn't really as OP as everyone claims it is. I've seen heavy builds just stand in that like it's no big deal.

Edit: Yes I play on Xbox

bubbygink wrote: »

Kidz_BeAstx wrote: »

@Xvorg Edit for TLDR: I was in Auridon when I took that picture, and I don't know if you realize this but I can have 1900 unbuffed spell damage but hit way harder than 5k spell damage because max stats are better than max damage, and also have more sustain because I have a mountain of Magicka, poisons do not affect me because of damage shields, and obviously I wasn't in Cyrodiil when I took that picture.

Kidz_BeAstx wrote: »

@Stamicka Or maybe people just aren't experienced players like I am.

Yea you're such an "experienced player" you somehow learned how to make damage shields magically ignore poisons... /s

Funy thing is that anytime I see a shild popper, I put a DoT on him... IDK, why, just come naturally...

Xvorg wrote: »

Kidz_BeAstx wrote: »

@Xvorg I was in Aurdion when I took that picture. And how are you going to tell me that 50k max magicka is not enough max magicka? If I was in Cyrodiil then it would be more like 22k health because of 5 1 1. You can clearly tell that I am not though because you cannot get bounties in Cyrodiil... No, I am not trolling. I honestly do not understand how people are not allowed to speak their minds on the forums without being called a troll.

Also, I am using 5 julionos, 5 necropontance, 1 grothdarr. I am not really on spell damage to get DPS, when I buff up with just entropy out of stealth it goes up to 2500 spell damage.

"16k health is not enough health in Cyrodiil"... Look at the upper right corner of the picture.

1- Ok, the max magicka is buffed, right?In Cyro it doesn't matter 50K magicka if you need to cloak or cast shadows to get the numbers. Same in the case of using necropotence in a mageblade. Those are more for a PVE build rather than a PvP build.

2- 22K health are not gonna save you either. In cyro, if you want to do smething as a magebade you need at least 25K and 5 pieces HA.

3- You do have the right to give your opinion, but at least hear other's opinions and xp regarding the issue. What you are showing is a picture ad not a video showing your playing style. Anyone can get those numbers if he builds towards that.

4- . 5 Julianos and 5 necro is not a good combo for mageblade. Julianos doesn't give anything to the Mageblade playing style, and 5 necro is somewhat useful in a fight (nothing else). In fact 4 pieces necro is beter than 5 pieces in a mageblade and gives you space to use 2 grothdar (which is more helpful). 5 pieces rattlecage are way better than 5 pieces julianos if you aim for spell dmg (358 spell dmg + major sorc for free). You can combine that with good old willpower + any monster set and a MS destro staff to get even better numbers. Good thing is that HA synergizes well with the shadow passives, or, if you prefer, combine Rattlecage with Seducer to get a good cost reduction.

Necro and Julianos are great sets for magblade. Rattle cage is decent if you don't want to slot major sorcerery. Necro is good because you should have your shade down at all times anyway. Just in case you need to reposition.

I demand a video that shows you in pvp action.

Kidz_BeAstx wrote: »

@Xvorg All the light really good magicka sets only come in light armor. Also, yes light armor is still viable. That's like saying that you need to wear heavy armor on a sorcerer because their damage shields aren't good enough. Yes I do play on consoles. I hope you know that I can get an 11k damage shield in PvP that I can keep spamming over and over again for great protection.
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ESO on PS4 is a different game from ESO on PC. You should have started mentioning that, I've had a lot of discussions with people because of that.

Most of the things that work on PS4 don't work either on PC or Xbox1. Glad to hear that a mageblade works on PS4, but saddly on the other platforms mageblades suck...

I have a Magblade, on PC NA its fun, but to play Magblade optimally now, best to just not use Cloak at all.

I run something similar to what @NightbladeMechanics runs ( I stumbled on his video a day after i pulled my Nightblade out of moth balls and put some gear on him and thought to give it a try, i was relived to know if he thinks its good, it must be good) I am running 5 Julianos, 5 Transmutation, and 2 Grothdarr (I think Kena is using Skoria instead, but my Skoria set is dedicated to my dungeon running PVE mag DK)

Its taking some getting used to,but Refreshing Path/Mutagen to get Transmutation procs with Heavy Armor is needed to give Magblade any kind of surviability. Cloak is just to unreliable.

Overall with the Heavy Build the damage is there, the sustain is there with Siphoning Attacks, its just a matter of setting up your opponent with a Hard CC to Spectral Bow + Animation cancel an Impale to finish them off.

Thanks @NightbladeMechanics for putting out that great video and especially the part about canceling Impale. coming over from mostly playing Mag Sorc in PVP since 2014, its little things like that, that I didn't know, that made all the difference. Thank you for showing me Magblade is far more then just sneaky Cloak and trying to jump people, but that Magblades can actually fight toe to toe with the best of em

Kidz_BeAstx wrote: »

Now that I actually think about it though, I might actually consider using heavy armor instead of light, due to the fact that light armor is extremely weak right now. I was a heavy armor stamblade but was medium, struggled forever, then switched to heavy armor and I felt like a God. I don't know too many magblades who run around in bathrobes anymore to be honest. @Xvorg

Only if you are a masochist, you keep on trying LA...

Yeah, pain is good... xD

TBH, I don't now how I could play HA mageblade. CW is quite weak and doesn't apply debuffs, so the option is a (middle)ranged HA mageblade.

From there you can go either lit or flame staff. Lit synergy with Sap Essence and twisting path is good, has a chance to apply concussion (minor vulner) on basic attacks and Heavy attack can be boosted through elemental expert and Thaum. Even moar, 75 points in Thaum give you the exploiter passive that can be triggered through wall of storms. And on top of that, you have access to shock reach, which is IMHO the best stun in the game (a Stun from 28 mts that also apply a decent DoT if build properly)

Flame staff synergyzes with all the single target skills, including the very same CW and Soul Harvest.

IMHO, I'd go with lit staff on main bar and resto on back bar. Sure, you are going to use resto for healing, though it has another great use: Magicka recover. Full heavy on resto and HA is one of the best tricks to regain magicka from a safe position.

Now, the question is, what set?

Kidz_BeAstx wrote: »

@Xvorg I want burning spell weave but I'd rather just settle for heavy julionos, 2pc grothdarr, and probably 4pc necropotence because I find the fifth pc bonus to be complete overkill. Light armor needs a serious buff, no doubt.

I like WMK since it benefits from every single kind of dmg and has a 4 secs CD. Though BSW gives a higher dmg.

There's another interesting set that gives you a similar bonus to BSW and that's Scathing Mage. The trick? Force Pulse. Since it's a triple attack, each tick has an individual crit chance.

Now, BSW + Scathing on a flame staff should unleash hell on every force pulse after CD, though you need all available defensive skills you have on your bar, and that includes shadows, cloak, shields, and fear, and maybe refreshing barrier as ulti.