Vanzeii wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Burning spellweave.

Crit chance has nothing to do with armor penetration.

14K isn't too much penetration, most people wear heavy armor in Cyrodiil

Ah thank you. I must have been half asleep when reading something about that.

Juliano isn't too bad if you want to go the craft route, otherwise get ready to farm City of Ash for Burning Spellweave

Indeed, I actually have a high drop rate for Burning when I go, it isn't to bad not like Spriggan's.

WMA?

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Julianos is a nearly imperceptible damage difference to Spinner. On my sorc, my buffed Soul Assault crit ticks were 150 damage lower with Julianos than with Spinner, and Julianos gives 6% crit chance and delivers its full damage to shields. The practical advantage of Spinner is that it can be worn as jewelry. That's it.

If you absolutely need a Bind on Equip damage set to wear as jewelry, ruling out Julianos, then Mother's Sorrow, Necropotence, Elegance, Sun, and Martial Knowledge are your runners up.

Destruction Mastery as well

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Julianos is a nearly imperceptible damage difference to Spinner. On my sorc, my buffed Soul Assault crit ticks were 150 damage lower with Julianos than with Spinner, and Julianos gives 6% crit chance and delivers its full damage to shields. The practical advantage of Spinner is that it can be worn as jewelry. That's it.

If you absolutely need a Bind on Equip damage set to wear as jewelry, ruling out Julianos, then Mother's Sorrow, Necropotence, Elegance, Sun, and Martial Knowledge are your runners up.

How have you tested that?

I checked that at the very start of one tamriel. My findings were quite different in terms of:
Julianos offers 170 spelldmg and 6% crit over spinner.
Spinner has 967 magica and 4000 penetration.
The result was the dmg difference before penetration was absolutely neglible (if you did not figure in crit) with only ~80 spelldmg in favor of julianos.
Any dmg test of abilities on a 20k spellresistance target had more than 7% dmg difference in favor of spinners (depending on ability and their respective scaling with spelldmg).

What you don´t want to test is with light/heavyattacks. They benefit immensily from spelldmg while not scaling well with max resource - which skews everything in favor of julianos.

Derra wrote: »

Berenhir wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Julianos is a nearly imperceptible damage difference to Spinner. On my sorc, my buffed Soul Assault crit ticks were 150 damage lower with Julianos than with Spinner, and Julianos gives 6% crit chance and delivers its full damage to shields. The practical advantage of Spinner is that it can be worn as jewelry. That's it.

If you absolutely need a Bind on Equip damage set to wear as jewelry, ruling out Julianos, then Mother's Sorrow, Necropotence, Elegance, Sun, and Martial Knowledge are your runners up.

Destruction Mastery as well

Well good luck getting THAT staff.

It drops in nDSA, doesn't it?

Derra wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Julianos is a nearly imperceptible damage difference to Spinner. On my sorc, my buffed Soul Assault crit ticks were 150 damage lower with Julianos than with Spinner, and Julianos gives 6% crit chance and delivers its full damage to shields. The practical advantage of Spinner is that it can be worn as jewelry. That's it.

If you absolutely need a Bind on Equip damage set to wear as jewelry, ruling out Julianos, then Mother's Sorrow, Necropotence, Elegance, Sun, and Martial Knowledge are your runners up.

How have you tested that?

I checked that at the very start of one tamriel. My findings were quite different in terms of:
Julianos offers 170 spelldmg and 6% crit over spinner.
Spinner has 967 magica and 4000 penetration.
The result was the dmg difference before penetration was absolutely neglible (if you did not figure in crit) with only ~80 spelldmg in favor of julianos.
Any dmg test of abilities on a 20k spellresistance target had more than 7% dmg difference in favor of spinners (depending on ability and their respective scaling with spelldmg).

What you don´t want to test is with light/heavyattacks. They benefit immensily from spelldmg while not scaling well with max resource - which skews everything in favor of julianos.

I buffed up and soul assaulted Xylena's heavy armor stam DK a few times with all gold sharpened/impen Spinner staff and armor, then switched them out for Julianos with the same traits. I was trying to determine which set to use on my sorc with Lich at the time.