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Why so much hate for NBs?
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ManDraKE✭✭✭✭✭
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So much for a ZOS 'promise'. They said it would get patched API server side to remove that as well.
Is it just heavy attacks, or any kind?
they remove the part that warned you about cloaked guys around you. About the incoming attacks, is working like before, it warns you about heavy attacks, ambush, retlenless focus proc, channeled attacks (dizzing swing, dark flare, etc)0 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭ So much for a ZOS 'promise'. They said it would get patched API server side to remove that as well.
Is it just heavy attacks, or any kind?
they remove the part that warned you about cloaked guys around you. About the incoming attacks, is working like before, it warns you about heavy attacks, ambush, retlenless focus proc, channeled attacks (dizzing swing, dark flare, etc)
Any ETA on a fix for this? @ZOS_ChipHilseberg
I thought this was going to be patched out server side with Homestead.0 -
Mayrael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Its because of they way NB can be played. Snipe from point where you barely see them, and when you rush them they go in hide and repeat (same as mag sorcs used to do with bolt escape, engage, if fight goes wrong - run!). Yes you can counter them, and once you get them, most of the time they last like 3-5s but its a bit anoying, just like mosquitoes. I dont mind gankers, it makes cyrodiil interesting, without it you could just run from point a to point b without thinking, but players will always search for a way to have fun and when they cant hold their ground in a face to face fight, they will gank'n'run. You wont change it as long as players are humans. So in general we can say that there is so much hate against NBs because they have tools to be anoying and some of them is very good at using those tools. Just like people using resource poisons in duels.Say no to Toxic Casuals!
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"Difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 24 DLCs. 40 game changing updates including A Realm Reborn-tier overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver&Gold as a "you think you do but you don't"-tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game." - @AlexanderDeLarge0 -
TrueGreenSmoker✭✭✭All classes got the nerf for so long while Nbs got stronger it was about time they nerfed nbs...
PS4 - NA - CP 859+
#1 Magicka Sorc - AD - High Elf - Vampire - TrueGreen
#2 Magicka DK - AD - Dark Elf - Vampire - Flamy Burnin Alot
#3 Magicka Temp - AD - High Elf - Vampire - TrueGreen Temp
#4 Magicka NB - AD - Breton - Vampire - Magic of the Night
#5 Magicka Sorc - DC - High Elf - Vampire - High Old Elf
#6 Stamina Sorc - EP - Orc - Normal - Original Herbalist
#7 Stamina NB - AD - Redguard - Vampire - Gank and Blaze
#8 Magicka DK - EP - Argonian - Vamp - Flamy-Tail
PS4 - EU - CP 249
#1 Magicka Temp - DC - Breton - Normal - Mary Healer Jane
#2 Magicka Sorc - DC High Elf - Normal - Baked Wizard of DC
Playing on PS4 NA
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thankyourat✭✭✭✭✭
✭TrueGreenSmoker wrote: »All classes got the nerf for so long while Nbs got stronger it was about time they nerfed nbs...
What nerfs did nightblades really get. And what nerfs do they really need the class overall is pretty balanced. Sure there are some cancer sets out there but that's a gear imbalance not a class imbalance. There are also some classes who have been just as good as nightblades for the last 2 years mag sorc comes to mind. These two classes will always be very powerful in PvP because of the game design of PvP0 -
Johngo0036✭✭✭✭✭DK =Reflect
Temp =God Heals
Sorc= Shields with a nuke dot
NB, broken hidden, any thing can unstealth you, I vanish and Radiant Destruction stills doing damage to me.
Where is the common sense to this ZEN?
PFT.....
not anymore.. stealth for NB is back to OP.. yesss... been waiting forever for this..PC EU Megaserver
@Johngo0036
CP900+
Altmer Magicka Sorcerer |The-Irritable-Witch(DC)
Orc Stamina Dragonknight | Gru-Bolar(DC)
Dunmer Magicka Nightblade | Chewbucca(DC)
Khajit Stamina Nightblade | Gleaming Daggers(DC)
Altmer Magicka Nightblade | Miss Chewbucca(EP)
Argonian Magicka Templar | Walks-With-Friends(EP)
Argonian Templar Healer | Dr Toxic(EP)
Orc Stamina Sorc | Lady Streaks-Alot(DC)
Dunmer Magicka DK | Whips-n-Chains(DC)
Nord Warden | Demi Tank(DC)
Dunmer Magicka Warden | Crafter-O-Crafts(DC)
Bosmer Stamplar | Forest-Plump(DC)
Argonian Hybrid Nb | Men-O-Paws(DC)
Bosmer Stamblade | 'Maui(AD)
Altmer Magicka Sorcerer | Mid-Life-Crisis(AD)0 -
Rikumaru✭✭✭✭✭
✭TrueGreenSmoker wrote: »All classes got the nerf for so long while Nbs got stronger it was about time they nerfed nbs...
70 ulti soul harvest / incap. 40% increase cost to strife. Small dmg buff to path of shadows. Totally stronger amirite?Overload rework. Power Overload now does physical damage and grants you the power of a tornado: You throw a brick at the target with a light attack, and you hammer your head into that brick with every heavy attack. We have decreased its Ultimate cost, but increased the chance that you get stuck in the animation.1 -
thankyourat✭✭✭✭✭
✭Johngo0036 wrote: »DK =Reflect
Temp =God Heals
Sorc= Shields with a nuke dot
NB, broken hidden, any thing can unstealth you, I vanish and Radiant Destruction stills doing damage to me.
Where is the common sense to this ZEN?
PFT.....
not anymore.. stealth for NB is back to OP.. yesss... been waiting forever for this..
Is it really working again finally? I designed a magblade build around cloak and not damage shields or heavy armor. This would be great if it actually works. I'm on Xbox so I can't see it yet0 -
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✭I don't get why everyone argument is focused on cloak. Cloak is horribly broken. Spam a gap closer on them and it still breaks cloak. Most classes have an AoE on their bar. Templar is notorious for spamming sweeps. Good luck cloaking when having to first use shuffle to remove any snares THEN cloak while they are spamming sweeps. Detect pots. Mage light. Curse. The shear amount of skills able to break cloak is crazy.
100% critical? On one skill against people running full impen? Not that great. Literally the only real use for that 100% critical is a gank build who has to be in sneak, cloak, have IC up, and use inner light. All that just to do one thing.
People don't truly hate NB's because they are an overall good class. They complain about the NB out there setup only for ganking and they get ganged by them. That's it. My DK and sorc blow away my NB in terms of their ability to have as much defense and offense as they do.
Blame ZoS for pushing NB to be purely a gank build.Edited by deepseamk20b14_ESO on 21 February 2017 18:15Hey everyone! Look! It's a signature!4 -
KingKalbo✭✭bigmamajama wrote: »Because they either oneshot you or run away.
You just can't have a proper fight with them.
And I think their ganking makes people all the more willing to ball up.
You just cant get a proper fight with them, because ESO has pigeon holed them into a surprise ganking class with all the nerfs to our sustained DPS without giving us more survivability. Unless you want to be a freaking tank build, but why be a nightblade if you have to be a tank to fight someone out of stealth, why not then just role a Templar or DK?
Its not the players fault its ZEN's
Blur could have been changed to a flat mitigation/damage reduction; something like 8% heavy, 12% med and, 15% light and opening burst numbers could have been set to do no more than 1/4th health damage to target. That would accomplish what I feel stealth was for. To give the opening advantage and put opponent on defensive but let skill determine the final outcome of a fight. Just my thoughts.
The main Motivation ofstealth right now seems to be stack enough buffs and damage to insta-kill target. Where is the fun of a win well earned in that.. for the stealther or the target?Edited by KingKalbo on 21 February 2017 18:181 -
H4RDFOX✭✭✭[/quote] not anymore.. stealth for NB is back to OP.. yesss... been waiting forever for this.. [/quote]
Please explain your reasoning that cloak is OP. Cloak only offers a crit hit, or minor protection for 2 seconds, MINOR PROTECTION FOR 2 SECONDS. That's it for the NB, there isn't anything OP there. More than 75% of fights cloak won't save a NB, you can still be hit when your'e stealthed or cloaked.
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not anymore.. stealth for NB is back to OP.. yesss... been waiting forever for this.. [/quote]
Please explain your reasoning that cloak is OP. Cloak only offers a crit hit, or minor protection for 2 seconds, MINOR PROTECTION FOR 2 SECONDS. That's it for the NB, there isn't anything OP there. More than 75% of fights cloak won't save a NB, you can still be hit when your'e stealthed or cloaked.
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I'm never hit while in the shadowsSmiff0 -
josh.lackey_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Cloak is now working like dodge, only better because it breaks channeled attacks like RD. Undodgeable attacks and aoes still hit you. I am not sure what more you could ask for than a magicka dodge that also makes you invisible. If you're magicka build you can cloak indefinitely. Pretty OP since you can't permadodge but you can permacloak.0 -
thankyourat✭✭✭✭✭
✭josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »Cloak is now working like dodge, only better because it breaks channeled attacks like RD. Undodgeable attacks and aoes still hit you. I am not sure what more you could ask for than a magicka dodge that also makes you invisible. If you're magicka build you can cloak indefinitely. Pretty OP since you can't permadodge but you can permacloak.
So it's working as intended, Lol I agree. I'm finally playing magblade how I use too, and not have to rely on heavy armor. This should make nightblade survivability as whole increase both stam and mag. I wouldn't say it's op since the nightblade class is built around shaking aggro and avoiding damage. If nightblades had op burst heals like some classes I would agree it's op, but since nightblades as a whole are the squishiest class it balances out.
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