Toc de Malsvi wrote: »

Animations are too long and clunky, yet you shouldn't be able to make skill animations virtually disappear. Animation canceling as a form of combat makes the game more interesting. However there should be a tutorial on how to weave things(no not something someone on here made on youtube), there should be a base game tutorial for newer players.

This is a great idea. I think most folks would be more likely to accept animation cancelling if it was marketed as a a mechanic. It's essentially just overlapping the light/heavy attack gcd with the skill gcd to maximise your actions per minute. There's nothing exploity about it imo, but I think there should be in-game hints or tutorials like you suggest.

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Silly thread is silly.

While animation cancelling was not part of the original design of the game and was unintended, the developers made a decision to leave it in / balance the game assuming it is in play, and clearly stated it isn't an exploit, so it isn't cheating.

If you don't like it, fine - but it is a part of the game so you can either ignore it, complain, and perform at a lower level or learn it, use it, and perform at a higher level.

I feel they should add some loading screen tips and a portion in the tutorial to explain animation cancelling / weaving - leaving it somewhat hidden causes more issues than just being up front about it with new players.

BTW I don't agree it adds skill to the game (it doesn't - mashing buttons is not hard).

It does however increase the pace of combat which some players prefer (such as console / fps / button masher types), while others would enjoy a more thought based strategic form of combat (such as classic RPG / PC types).

Personally I find the combat in this game simplistic and clunky, and dislike animation cancelling (it feels and looks cheap), but I overlook that as I still enjoy the game as a whole and no game is ever going to be perfect in every way.

Is it not being worked on? It's so hard to successfully and consistently cancel a shield animation without weapon swapping it's hilarious. I can cast liquid lightning, swap my bar and start my rotation on a mob and be stuck in liquid lightning animation as if I had never swapped bars.

I have died so many times because my bar didn't swap because I tried to ani cancel a skill. And while I'm thinking about it...

Why shouldn't I get the kill off of you because I swap cancelled a frag and streaked through you and your buddy before your spam hit me? Why shouldn't my LA > ransack> bash eat your health like a ghost in Ms. Pacman?

Why does everyone want this game to be so slow? That's the combat system you're talking about. Slooooow. Why not just play it as if animation cancelling doesn't exist? If this poll is correct, the majority must not do it, so you shouldn't have too many problems finding what you believe is fair gameplay.

It leads to balance issues in every patch, it feels like cheating even though its allowed and it is not even known by a large number of players. Only because many players play ESo as their first MMO they think it is ok they way it works.

Skipping it will hurt noone (though some may think its stripping them of something, which it won't) but help improve maintaining the balance much more easily than it is now. All players would play the same game then and better player would still be better players. No damage done, but much to gain. AC is silly.

The amount of bads in this thread is the reason ESO is the way it is now.

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

Just removing it from the current game would render the hardest PvE content nigh impassible and make PvP dull AF.

This is almist a confession that those rop dog players who live in vMoL or vMA couldn't be as good without this firm of cheat.

Should get rid of it, then Mortal Kombat's combos too. How those who didn't put on the time to learn and master them would compete otherwise? That's cheating

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

Liofa wrote: »

In case no one posted this .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThZtwhYkKSs

Stop trying to kill the game and finding excuses for your low DPS . Thank you .

The game is already been murdered thanks to the developers like Eric Wrobel and their way of thinking. Animations are INCLUDEDinto the game mechanics. Why do you need to cancel it? Why have combat animations at all if animation canceling is encouraged?

Why need it ? Do you really ask this ? Ok , let me explain one by one .

Light attack cancel ---> Light attack gives Ultimate regeneration buff which you cannot get any other way while playing PvE DPS . If you refuse to do so , you better put that light attack in your rotation , if you have one of course .

Heavy Attack cancel ---> Adds great burst potential . Available to both Magicka and Stamina . Great way to start combat for higher DPS .

Block cancel ---> You can say hi to that Crystal Fragment while it is flying to your face while you are casting something . Block or not , your choice .

Roll dodge cancel ---> Example above still applies .

Swap cancel ---> Better DPS . Better healing . More support . Faster buffing/debuffing . I bet people are doing this without noticing it . Even those who refuses to use animation cancelling .

Bash cancel ---> Faster interrupting . More DPS with 1h/s in PvP . Useful in both PvE and PvP .

One more thing about animation cancelling . If a person cannot put a light attack between skills , they are simply not enough for end-game PvE DPS . That is it . You can watch any videos from people who are high at the leaderboards . They are almost perfect with their cancelling . Like it or not , it IS NEEDED . I am sure no one could finish vMoL HM without using animation cancelling . Even vMoL in this case .

Again , using or not is your choice . If you didn't know why these are needed , you shouldn't have voted in this thread .

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Spectral_Lord wrote: »

Yes, remove it. Nothing about it promotes being "more skilled" at all. If anything it is just a cheap and easy tactic (if you can call it that) to play the game.

@Spectral_Lord

If this is truly your opinion then you clearly should have no issue with it and everyone should be able to do it easily.

Thing is , it does require skill, but is easy to get it down. The only reason someone would have issue with it is because they have not bothered with the effort.

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

Liofa wrote: »

In case no one posted this .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThZtwhYkKSs

Stop trying to kill the game and finding excuses for your low DPS . Thank you .

The game is already been murdered thanks to the developers like Eric Wrobel and their way of thinking. Animations are INCLUDEDinto the game mechanics. Why do you need to cancel it? Why have combat animations at all if animation canceling is encouraged?

@raidentenshu_ESO and animation cancelingis part of the mechanics. It if officially part of the mechanics. Blessed and condoned by the devs.

The hard cold truth is the devs could have easily ended this. They chose to keep the game combat fresher rather than stale like SWTOR and WoW.

Also, Players who do not know how to do this have chosen to not figure it out. Lets not eliminate the little skill required for this game to appease those who choose to now figure this easy task out.

the cold hard truth is they didn't know how to fix it, so they left it in and began to refer to it as a 'feature.'

the devs who could've fixed it are gone.