Have you completed Veteran Maelstrom Arena? (Anniversary Edition)

Father_X_Zombie · November 2016

Mag Sorc after DB. Not exactly the hardest spec, but not the easiest

Tryxus · November 2016

Beaten vDSA at cp160 on Sat 03/09/2016, Magicka Nightblade Tryxus

Was like "What the heck, let's give the other arena another go as well"

My 3rd attempt btw

Beaten vMSA at cp160 on Sun 04/09/2016, Magicka Nightblade Tryxus

LegendaryArcher · November 2016

Jaronking wrote: »

Am farm the crap out of the VMA next week at least 7-10 runs a day am planning.If I don't get 1 sharpened DW or 2h even a bow am done with ESO but that would be to much of BIS RNG. Doing it 7 timed a day that's 196 weapons if none of those weapons doesn't drop anything useful than I don't understand what I need to do.

@Jaronking Sorry to disappoint you, but 196 weapons aren't likely to give you what you want. If you're planning to farm that much, better approach it in a realistic way, or spare yourself the trouble of disappointment. A bunch of people ran it 1000+ times with leaderboard rewards and never got their Sharpened Inferno or Dagger. 200 weapons is veeery small compared to that. I myself ran it 300 times + leaderboard rewards and don't have a single useful weapon that is better than any crafted non-set alternative. Those who have them nowadays got them before DB. Back then 60 runs were enough to have every possible weapon in both Sharpened and Precise.

Isellskooma · November 2016

I've only done Maelstrom 14 times and got all the weapons I needed. I did it before they made it always drop a weapon. This is the only time RNG has been on my side.

Jimbullbee85 · November 2016

Junipus wrote: »

Jimbullbee85 wrote: »

So far my characters are more support based (tanks/healers) so haven't really had chance to have a go at it. I've just finished grinding and kitting out a redguard stampler that has 4K buffed weapon damage so I'm going to give it a go tonight. Ive got two sets that ill need to swap out and experiment with though. Viper and hubdings for dam and crit, and blackrose and viper for tankiness and sustain. I think the latter will probs be best. Wish me luck!

I'd suggest Viper and Hunding since you're going to want to make use of that 4k weapon damage to kill rather than survive. I'd also suggest vigor, cleansing ritual and bloodcraze for your healing so you survive better.

Thanks very much for that info

I still need to level up Cyrodil to unlock vigour so will wait til then. What skill line is bloodcraze in?

Jimbullbee85 · November 2016

I need to decide what to put on my second bar too. Can't decide between sword n board or duel weild.

Jaronking · November 2016

LegendaryArcher wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Am farm the crap out of the VMA next week at least 7-10 runs a day am planning.If I don't get 1 sharpened DW or 2h even a bow am done with ESO but that would be to much of BIS RNG. Doing it 7 timed a day that's 196 weapons if none of those weapons doesn't drop anything useful than I don't understand what I need to do.

@Jaronking Sorry to disappoint you, but 196 weapons aren't likely to give you what you want. If you're planning to farm that much, better approach it in a realistic way, or spare yourself the trouble of disappointment. A bunch of people ran it 1000+ times with leaderboard rewards and never got their Sharpened Inferno or Dagger. 200 weapons is veeery small compared to that. I myself ran it 300 times + leaderboard rewards and don't have a single useful weapon that is better than any crafted non-set alternative. Those who have them nowadays got them before DB. Back then 60 runs were enough to have every possible weapon in both Sharpened and Precise.

Don't crush my hope.I have to believe I'll get something good or I'll just only play BF1 and 7 days to die for now on.

luen79rwb17_ESO · November 2016

VMSA will push you to the limit, and once you complete it there's a huge sense of accomplishment you hardly get on group content. You made it through yourself.

I definately can say I'm a much better player after I went through this very hard content.

I can't wait for the next solo trial!

isthatujonwayne · November 2016

code65536 wrote: »

isthatujonwayne wrote: »

Completed on mag sorc, stam sorc, stam dk, stam nb. Had 3 sharpened inferno staffs! And countless restos. But yet to have a sharpened 1 hand or 2 hand

If I could, I'd give you my six sharpened 2-handers that are sitting there collecting dust for just one sharpened inferno.

That would be awesome. Ive had every trait but they elude me. It seems that certain people just get the same things. Others just cant get it

Silver_Strider · November 2016

I've only ever cleared it with my Magblade and Stamblade (Not to big on trying with other classes tbh)

I don't like Maelstrom, as only the last chest has anything of value as every subsequent chest is just filled with decon materials as all the sets from Maelstrom are trash (Winterborn being the possible exception).

BiS weapons be damned, if I'm going to donate hours into grinding content, I want much more than just 1 item from that content. I'd rather PUG dungeons than bang my head against the walls of Maelstrom screaming as I get another Powered Greatsword or some other trash weapon, at least then I get to relax and just mindlessly kill things without having to worry about every little mechanic

Browiseth · November 2016

stam sorc boyssssss

jeremiah911 · November 2016

I know I'm in the minority here, but I'll say that I actually enjoy running vMA. It's actually my favorite piece of content outside of vet dungeons.

Ive only run vMA six times (only been playing on PC for 6 months) with my first instance lasting about 12 hours and my most recent clear coming in just over an hour. Obviously I want the weapons, but I enjoy the difficulty of vMA more than anything.

I understand a lot of the RNG arguments and I agree with almost all of them, but for now I enjoy vMA for what it is and I'm really looking forward to getting back into vMA next weekend to get more weapons!!!

UrQuan · November 2016

I haven't yet made a serious attempt at vMSA. I've done normal MSA a ton (I have one character who I leveled from 16 to 50 almost exclusively in there, and MSA was where I was farming plunder skulls when I was still trying to get certain motif pages and the masks), but I've only made a couple of short tries at vMSA. I feel like the amount that I've done normal MSA has hopefully somewhat prepared me for vet - at least in terms of understanding the mechanics well. On the other hand, I'm afraid it may work against me, as I seem to have trained myself to never ever use the sigils, and I have a feeling I'm really going to need them in vet.

I've got a character I'm planning on using for a real attempt at it though - I've just been farming the gear that I want to use in my vMSA build. I'm cautiously optimistic about my chances because before changing anything about his build (which means he was definitely using a sub-optimal setup) I gave the first arena a try on vet just to see how tough it was. I got through the first arena with no deaths and without using any sigils on the first attempt using my herp-de-derp build. Didn't try the second one. Granted, the first arena is by far the easiest one, but hopefully that success means that with good gear and a good build I'll have a pretty good shot.

I think the announcement of the Orsinium event has accelerated my timeline for making a real attempt at doing vMSA. I was planning on continuing to farm for gear for a while until I got the stuff I wanted, but now I think I'm just going to try to buy the pieces I don't yet have from guild traders and make a real attempt this weekend. Depending on how that goes I may or may not try vMSA runs during the anniversary event.

Armitas · November 2016

Dark_Claw wrote: »

I don't hate myself enough.

I hate myself for trying, and even more for completing it.

Uriel_Nocturne · November 2016

Nope.

I have zero interest in any version of the Maelstrom Arena.

As a side thought; I also have zero interest in any Trials/Undaunted/PvP/Group Dungeons... Basically any of the "end-game-race-to-the-top-chasing-the-current-Meta" content holds zero attraction for me.

Doctordarkspawn · November 2016

CultOfMMO wrote: »

@Doctordarkspawn

i enocurage you to get in there and try again. There quite literally is only 1 single mechanic in the whole arena that has ZERO counterplay, and thats the shrooms appearing under the shield in stage 7 boss fight. Everything else can be managed and strategized. If you're lacking specifically dps then whats stopping you from spamming that power sigil?

There are a lot of legitimate reasons here why ppl have stopped pursuing, most ppl here refer to the RNG, which i completely agree with. vMA is rewarding not in the loot sense, but its way better than that, it literally makes you the absolute best possible version of yourself as an ESO player.

Dont think i can say this any nicer, but of all the comments and arguments, only yours seem like a simple lack of motivation and effort. It really is not hard at all, just takes time. Just because the mechanics are challenging to manage with, it does not mean they're bad design and BS.

I stopped playing because I disagreed with the design and have little motivation to continue, given I dont main DPS and dont care to. No I will not try again. No I dont care to subject myself to mechanics like the shrooms on arena 7, just like I dont care to subject myself to Cradle of Shadows Vet. It's not a fun experience so I dont queue for it.

Like many others in this thread, I simply have no interest. If Maelstrom was engaging beyond DPS check mechanics and pitfalls, maybe I would try again, but it's not, at least in my opinion, so I wont. This is a game where the variety of alternatives is staggering, and I doubt best in slot gear will be -needed- once ZOS get's it's head out of it's behind and fixes some scaling issues for group content.

Not to mention the fact the weapons are useless for my main and one of those things that they just -need- to buff or rework. But even then, that'd require giving tanks a reason and means to run it, and I guarentee that wont happen.

@CultOfMMO Telling me to play it over and over again to enjoy it, is like telling me I just have not played enough Dark Souls to enjoy it. It's not worth my time and energy. It's not worth the frustration. I dont play games to -work- at having fun. And I will continue to call mechanics like the shrooms, like the DPS check nature of the arena, what I think it is. Poorly designed, DPS/Hardcore pandering, trash that needs to be scrapped. You are free to disagree, but it's simply not the sort of content I'm interested in.

Stoopid_Nwah · November 2016

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

CultOfMMO wrote: »

@Doctordarkspawn

i enocurage you to get in there and try again. There quite literally is only 1 single mechanic in the whole arena that has ZERO counterplay, and thats the shrooms appearing under the shield in stage 7 boss fight. Everything else can be managed and strategized. If you're lacking specifically dps then whats stopping you from spamming that power sigil?

There are a lot of legitimate reasons here why ppl have stopped pursuing, most ppl here refer to the RNG, which i completely agree with. vMA is rewarding not in the loot sense, but its way better than that, it literally makes you the absolute best possible version of yourself as an ESO player.

Dont think i can say this any nicer, but of all the comments and arguments, only yours seem like a simple lack of motivation and effort. It really is not hard at all, just takes time. Just because the mechanics are challenging to manage with, it does not mean they're bad design and BS.

I stopped playing because I disagreed with the design and have little motivation to continue, given I dont main DPS and dont care to. No I will not try again. No I dont care to subject myself to mechanics like the shrooms on arena 7, just like I dont care to subject myself to Cradle of Shadows Vet. It's not a fun experience so I dont queue for it.

Like many others in this thread, I simply have no interest. If Maelstrom was engaging beyond DPS check mechanics and pitfalls, maybe I would try again, but it's not, at least in my opinion, so I wont. This is a game where the variety of alternatives is staggering, and I doubt best in slot gear will be -needed- once ZOS get's it's head out of it's behind and fixes some scaling issues for group content.

Not to mention the fact the weapons are useless for my main and one of those things that they just -need- to buff or rework. But even then, that'd require giving tanks a reason and means to run it, and I guarentee that wont happen.

@CultOfMMO Telling me to play it over and over again to enjoy it, is like telling me I just have not played enough Dark Souls to enjoy it. It's not worth my time and energy. It's not worth the frustration. I dont play games to -work- at having fun. And I will continue to call mechanics like the shrooms, like the DPS check nature of the arena, what I think it is. Poorly designed, DPS/Hardcore pandering, trash that needs to be scrapped. You are free to disagree, but it's simply not the sort of content I'm interested in.

I think many people have a hard time understanding that some players just don't care about the weapons enough or they hate the mechanics enough that they just don't have an urge to complete maelstrom. Honestly vma is one of those love hate things for me. I love the feeling I had after completing it and hate the rng. It felt like a chore farming it and for me it really made me realize how much it removed me from the social aspects of the game I enjoyed.

I'll run it a few times next week, but I will never get caught up in that weird addictive grind for gear that in the end isn't worth hating the game over.

So good for you if you truly don't care about getting a completion or the weapons, but it may be in your best interest to not assume things or overgeneralize about content that you have never done yourself. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but it's true. It just makes you sound moreso irritated that you can't complete it or that you're not willing to put any effort in to complete it.

Doctordarkspawn · November 2016

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

CultOfMMO wrote: »

@Doctordarkspawn

i enocurage you to get in there and try again. There quite literally is only 1 single mechanic in the whole arena that has ZERO counterplay, and thats the shrooms appearing under the shield in stage 7 boss fight. Everything else can be managed and strategized. If you're lacking specifically dps then whats stopping you from spamming that power sigil?

There are a lot of legitimate reasons here why ppl have stopped pursuing, most ppl here refer to the RNG, which i completely agree with. vMA is rewarding not in the loot sense, but its way better than that, it literally makes you the absolute best possible version of yourself as an ESO player.

Dont think i can say this any nicer, but of all the comments and arguments, only yours seem like a simple lack of motivation and effort. It really is not hard at all, just takes time. Just because the mechanics are challenging to manage with, it does not mean they're bad design and BS.

I stopped playing because I disagreed with the design and have little motivation to continue, given I dont main DPS and dont care to. No I will not try again. No I dont care to subject myself to mechanics like the shrooms on arena 7, just like I dont care to subject myself to Cradle of Shadows Vet. It's not a fun experience so I dont queue for it.

Like many others in this thread, I simply have no interest. If Maelstrom was engaging beyond DPS check mechanics and pitfalls, maybe I would try again, but it's not, at least in my opinion, so I wont. This is a game where the variety of alternatives is staggering, and I doubt best in slot gear will be -needed- once ZOS get's it's head out of it's behind and fixes some scaling issues for group content.

Not to mention the fact the weapons are useless for my main and one of those things that they just -need- to buff or rework. But even then, that'd require giving tanks a reason and means to run it, and I guarentee that wont happen.

@CultOfMMO Telling me to play it over and over again to enjoy it, is like telling me I just have not played enough Dark Souls to enjoy it. It's not worth my time and energy. It's not worth the frustration. I dont play games to -work- at having fun. And I will continue to call mechanics like the shrooms, like the DPS check nature of the arena, what I think it is. Poorly designed, DPS/Hardcore pandering, trash that needs to be scrapped. You are free to disagree, but it's simply not the sort of content I'm interested in.

I think many people have a hard time understanding that some players just don't care about the weapons enough or they hate the mechanics enough that they just don't have an urge to complete maelstrom. Honestly vma is one of those love hate things for me. I love the feeling I had after completing it and hate the rng. It felt like a chore farming it and for me it really made me realize how much it removed me from the social aspects of the game I enjoyed.

I'll run it a few times next week, but I will never get caught up in that weird addictive grind for gear that in the end isn't worth hating the game over.

So good for you if you truly don't care about getting a completion or the weapons, but it may be in your best interest to not assume things or overgeneralize about content that you have never done yourself. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but it's true. It just makes you sound moreso irritated that you can't complete it or that you're not willing to put any effort in to complete it.

I'll take that under consideration. Quite frankly most of what I infer is usually backed by video evidence or others experience so I tend not to think about those too much.

It is a real problem however. The people just not -geting- why people dont like certain content, or not geting their nonexistance of drive to complete certain milestones or content. Perhaps a discussion for another time.

I tip my hat to you.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · November 2016

Stuck on the last boss

Bobby_V_Rockit · November 2016

I'm pretty irritated that I cant complete it ^^ just sayin...

Vaoh · November 2016

Beat it a few times on my Stam DK, a few times on my Magicka NB, about ten times on my Stam Sorc and between 150-200 times on my Magicka Sorc (Main). Haven't attempted it on my Templar yet.

I urge all of you who have yet to complete Maelstrom Arena to run it during the anniversary!!!
****USE SIGILS
****Remember you can return later if it's tough and carry on where you left off
****Every run = 2x rewards during the event!!! Get your Maelstrom Weapons!!!

Destruent · November 2016

After 1 Year of vMSA i finally got my first sharpened dagger

Didn't really expect to get it at all

On this whole "DPS-Race-Thingy": I did it till round 8/bossstage with a HP-tankbuild and like 5...10k DPS. Pls don't call anything in there a DPS-Race. The thing which came closest to it, are the healer-adds on round 8, bc you have to out-DPS their healing.

hamburgerler76 · November 2016

was trying for months idk ended up giving up guess im not good enough and dont know how to get better

LegendaryArcher · November 2016

Vaoh wrote: »

****Every run = 2x rewards during the event!!! Get your Maelstrom Weapons!!![/b]

Really? Why giving people false hope? 2x the cancer it is now doesn't make it better in the slightest.

People run it 300, 400, 500+ times and don't get a single usable weapon. If you want that one weapon in Sharpened, you're looking at 1000+ runs. All this event is doing is turning 1000+ into 500+. And no one will run it 500 times in 2 weeks. And even then you're likely to not get that one weapon you want.

Vaoh · November 2016

LegendaryArcher wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

****Every run = 2x rewards during the event!!! Get your Maelstrom Weapons!!![/b]

Really? Why giving people false hope? 2x the cancer it is now doesn't make it better in the slightest.

People run it 300, 400, 500+ times and don't get a single usable weapon. If you want that one weapon in Sharpened, you're looking at 1000+ runs. All this event is doing is turning 1000+ into 500+. And no one will run it 500 times in 2 weeks. And even then you're likely to not get that one weapon you want.

So the solution is to never run vMA at all?

This isn't false hope. Double rewards during an event is not false hope. We have a fantastic opportunity here where our chances of getting what we want have literally been doubled.

They are still low ofc, but doubled nonetheless. And people who say they ran vMA 1000 times are lying to you. Did you know I killed Molag Kena 4,275 times exactly and still no Light armor helms dropped for me? (-_-) *hint hint

Instead of being that doom & gloom guy that everyone steers clear from to avoid getting depressed, maybe you could focus on hekping people who struggle to beat vMA get through it during a time where they can potentially fit in 15 runs and earn the rewards of 30 runs.

LegendaryArcher · November 2016

Vaoh wrote: »

LegendaryArcher wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

****Every run = 2x rewards during the event!!! Get your Maelstrom Weapons!!![/b]

Really? Why giving people false hope? 2x the cancer it is now doesn't make it better in the slightest.

People run it 300, 400, 500+ times and don't get a single usable weapon. If you want that one weapon in Sharpened, you're looking at 1000+ runs. All this event is doing is turning 1000+ into 500+. And no one will run it 500 times in 2 weeks. And even then you're likely to not get that one weapon you want.

So the solution is to never run vMA at all?

This isn't false hope. Double rewards during an event is not false hope. We have a fantastic opportunity here where our chances of getting what we want have literally been doubled.

They are still low ofc, but doubled nonetheless. And people who say they ran vMA 1000 times are lying to you. Did you know I killed Molag Kena 4,275 times exactly and still no Light armor helms dropped for me? (-_-) *hint hint

Instead of being that doom & gloom guy that everyone steers clear from to avoid getting depressed, maybe you could focus on hekping people who struggle to beat vMA get through it during a time where they can potentially fit in 15 runs and earn the rewards of 30 runs.

No, those people aren't lying. I've been there, was farming with them. I was there when Almost Heroes, the guild that dominated all PC EU leaderboard for a very long time fell apart because slowly but surely, groups started splitting in people with vMA weapons and those without.

We have a guild in Black Desert with over 30 players that quit ESO solely because of not getting their vMA weapons after hundreds of runs (almost 50 ex-ESO players overall that quit for various reasons). Some of them didn't get a single Inferno after 1000+ runs. And I've seen them run vMA in ESO 5+ times a day for months. People who have been leading the leaderboards for months. Overall, I know 7 people that didn't get their Inferno after 1000+ runs, but the other 3 didn't want to come with us to BDO.

Telling people that had to withdraw from being competitive for over half a year to farm vMA on a daily basis to become competitive again with no result that they're lying is extremely disrespectful. And yes, telling people "Go get your weapon!" in the current condition is setting them up for disappointment. Those who run Sharpened vMA weapons got them before DB.

Not sure how much you farmed for Kena, but I know someone who had to run vWGT 500+ times for a full divines SPC set ( @Sharmony , leader of Well Fitted). And no, he's not lying either, because I participated a lot in his runs and saw him in there every day, all day, for at least 2 months. However, the highest number I heard of to get the desired Kena helmet was somewhere between 40 and 50.

And if you're still skeptical, maybe @Sharmony can tell you about @Decado from his guild, who's still farming for a Sharpened Inferno Staff and is well beyond 1000 runs by now.

code65536 · November 2016

LegendaryArcher wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

****Every run = 2x rewards during the event!!! Get your Maelstrom Weapons!!![/b]

Really? Why giving people false hope? 2x the cancer it is now doesn't make it better in the slightest.

People run it 300, 400, 500+ times and don't get a single usable weapon. If you want that one weapon in Sharpened, you're looking at 1000+ runs. All this event is doing is turning 1000+ into 500+. And no one will run it 500 times in 2 weeks. And even then you're likely to not get that one weapon you want.

I got my sharpened inferno staff within the first one or two dozen runs. In addition, I have one sharpened bow, one sharpened dagger, and six sharpened 2-handers. (Though as someone who mostly plays magicka and PvE, the 2-handers are mostly wasted for me.) I also have other good-but-not-BiS weapons (e.g., precise infernos, precise 1H axes, sharpened ice, etc.). Of these sharpened BiS weapons, I got the inferno, bow, and half of my 2-handers pre-DB. The dagger and half of my two-handers came post-DB. I don't have an exact count of the number of times I've run vMA, but it's definitely under 100 runs. (I just checked, and I have 56 saved entries in Raidificator, though that doesn't count the runs that were resumed from saves or the runs that didn't get saved because the game crashed before data was committed to disk, so my total run count is higher, though not that much higher.)

I don't dispute that there are people who, after hundreds of runs, still don't have the weapons that they seek. You're not lying, and I personally know people who are in the same boat as you. But I also know that most people are not in that boat. Most people are more like me and have gotten most (though usually not all) of the weapons that they want after a reasonable number of runs. For every horror story like yours, there are multiple people who didn't get screwed--except they keep quiet about it because they have nothing to complain about, and talking about it on the forums will look like pointless bragging.
My approach to vMA has always been very low-key. I had a very good in-game friend (who unfortunately abandoned ESO for BDO) who had close to a hundred vMA runs under his belt back when I was working on my first clear, and he never got his sharpened inferno. So I had tempered my expectations accordingly. I never went into vMA expecting to get a weapon. Whereas he'd do multiple runs per day, I limited myself to just 1 run per character per week. This was so that I could get the most out of a run (via the weekly reward). It's definitely slower this way, but it also means I'm maximizing my ratio of drop opportunity to time spent, and it means that I don't get burned out by vMA. At the peak of my vMA "farming" (if you could even call it that), I was doing 3 runs per week on 3 different characters. These days, I do only 1 run per week on just my main. Next week with the doubled loot will be my first time actually farming vMA with multiple runs a day.

Anyway, my mindset when it comes to vMA has always been casual and non-competitive precisely because I didn't want to become embittered over it. And yes, it helps that I wasn't screwed by RNG like you. But most people don't get screwed. My advice to people: go do it, just don't do it with the expectation of getting a weapon, and know that there's a definite risk (one that is small, but still substantial) that you'll end up as a never-got-my-weapon horror story.

And yes, I would very much like to see a vMA token system. Or just a token system in general because luck-of-the-draw isn't a very good way to reward skill.

Wollust · November 2016

LegendaryArcher wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

LegendaryArcher wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

****Every run = 2x rewards during the event!!! Get your Maelstrom Weapons!!![/b]

Really? Why giving people false hope? 2x the cancer it is now doesn't make it better in the slightest.

People run it 300, 400, 500+ times and don't get a single usable weapon. If you want that one weapon in Sharpened, you're looking at 1000+ runs. All this event is doing is turning 1000+ into 500+. And no one will run it 500 times in 2 weeks. And even then you're likely to not get that one weapon you want.

So the solution is to never run vMA at all?

This isn't false hope. Double rewards during an event is not false hope. We have a fantastic opportunity here where our chances of getting what we want have literally been doubled.

They are still low ofc, but doubled nonetheless. And people who say they ran vMA 1000 times are lying to you. Did you know I killed Molag Kena 4,275 times exactly and still no Light armor helms dropped for me? (-_-) *hint hint

Instead of being that doom & gloom guy that everyone steers clear from to avoid getting depressed, maybe you could focus on hekping people who struggle to beat vMA get through it during a time where they can potentially fit in 15 runs and earn the rewards of 30 runs.

No, those people aren't lying. I've been there, was farming with them. I was there when Almost Heroes, the guild that dominated all PC EU leaderboard for a very long time fell apart because slowly but surely, groups started splitting in people with vMA weapons and those without.

We have a guild in Black Desert with over 30 players that quit ESO solely because of not getting their vMA weapons after hundreds of runs (almost 50 ex-ESO players overall that quit for various reasons). Some of them didn't get a single Inferno after 1000+ runs. And I've seen them run vMA in ESO 5+ times a day for months. People who have been leading the leaderboards for months. Overall, I know 7 people that didn't get their Inferno after 1000+ runs, but the other 3 didn't want to come with us to BDO.

Telling people that had to withdraw from being competitive for over half a year to farm vMA on a daily basis to become competitive again with no result that they're lying is extremely disrespectful. And yes, telling people "Go get your weapon!" in the current condition is setting them up for disappointment. Those who run Sharpened vMA weapons got them before DB.

Not sure how much you farmed for Kena, but I know someone who had to run vWGT 500+ times for a full divines SPC set ( @Sharmony , leader of Well Fitted). And no, he's not lying either, because I participated a lot in his runs and saw him in there every day, all day, for at least 2 months. However, the highest number I heard of to get the desired Kena helmet was somewhere between 40 and 50.

And if you're still skeptical, maybe @Sharmony can tell you about @Decado from his guild, who's still farming for a Sharpened Inferno Staff and is well beyond 1000 runs by now.

Almost Heroes did not fall apart because of VMSA though. Discussing an issue is fine, but lying and/or spreading misinformation for the sake of it is not.

WillhelmBlack · November 2016

No

Acharnor · November 2016

I have given up for now - may try again in the future. I clearly lack the finger dexterity and all seeing eyes required. Its cool though. I feel godlike most everywhere else.