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Have you completed Veteran Maelstrom Arena? (Anniversary Edition)

code65536
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Now that the 1-year anniversary of vMA is upon us, it's time to revisit this poll question and see what kind of responses we have, now that people have had a year with this content.
Edited by code65536 on 3 November 2016 02:49
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Have you completed Veteran Maelstrom Arena? (Anniversary Edition) 628 votes

Yes, on all four classes
7% 50 votes
Yes, on two or three classes
15% 98 votes
Yes, on one class
19% 123 votes
No, I am still working on it
15% 100 votes
No, I have tried and have given up
16% 105 votes
No, I have not yet tried, but plan to in the future
15% 100 votes
No, I have no interest in this content
8% 52 votes
  • Doctordarkspawn
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    No interest. As a tank main Maelstrom was allways a bust for me, considering the weapons for support rolls are something we actively cant get. But as of recent I have a DPS, and even then I'm not interested. Why? I hate Maelstrom. I hate it on a design level, I think it's the worst designed content in the entire game and I have precisely zero interest in it.
  • Dark_Claw
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    I don't hate myself enough.
  • Dragonnord
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    I think it's the worst designed content in the entire game...

    Could you please elaborate more on this?

  • Jaronking
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    I have done it on a Stam sorc stamNB Magblade and StamDk.Still don't have good traits on weapons but I have have decent weapons.
  • mimicks
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    Tried it recently on my mag sorc and have been stuck on the final boss for the past 5 days. Slowly making progress but I just can't handle the mechanics. Determined to get it done by the anniversary event though
    PC NA
  • negbert
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    Completed it for the first time last week. It took a lot of patience but I'm glad I did it. Got a sharpened 2 hand axe at the end. I'm not a particularly strong player so I certainly struggled but got there in the end.
  • code65536
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    Dark_Claw wrote: »
    I don't hate myself enough.

    It's really not that bad.

    The first clear is always rough and painful. I yelled so many expletives and died well over a hundred times getting that first clear. And at the time, I swore that I would never go back after I clear it and get the title. People told me, "It gets better after the first clear." I didn't believe them and couldn't fathom how it could possibly get better.

    That was back in February. I've since cleared it on all classes and have most of the weapons that I want (at this point, I just run it once a week for the weekly so that I effectively get two weapons per run--one from the chest and one from the reward mail), and it really does get much easier have you get over that first-clear hump. It's incredible how different it feels now compared to that first time. It really does get better, even if it doesn't seem like that's possible at the beginning.

    That said, the weapon RNG is pretty annoying. Over the past few months, I've gotten a bunch of sharpened 2-handers (even though I mostly play magicka in PvE) and not a single sharpened (or even precise) destruction staff of any flavor. I'm hoping that the double-weapon drop next week will take some of the sting out of the RNG...
    Edited by code65536 on 4 November 2016 11:02
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  • Skinzz
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    Ran it about 30 times and have most weapons in the needed traits minus sharpened inferno, maul and daggers.
    Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?
  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    Cant beat stage 1 lol
  • FriedEggSandwich
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    Cant beat stage 1 lol

    Are you a tank? Or low cp? Stage 1 introduces the concept of 'dps race', a concept the other 8 stages will reinforce. It's rough if you don't build for max damage.
    PC | EU
  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    Cant beat stage 1 lol

    Are you a tank? Or low cp? Stage 1 introduces the concept of 'dps race', a concept the other 8 stages will reinforce. It's rough if you don't build for max damage.

    Not a tank, max CP, just terrible at the game. Ah well!
  • Glurin
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    Haven't tried it yet, but I've been away for some time due to some RL interference so I've really only actually had access to the content for a few weeks. Still got some other stuff on the to do list to catch up on that is ahead of MA, one of which being getting my character back up to speed with gear and builds. Could be a while though since I generally don't like running cookie cutters and tend to use unusual setups. But I do plan to get to it eventually.
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  • Mic1007
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    On the final boss. Keep getting owned. *Twitch*
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  • DannyLV702
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    Completed on magic sorc and stamblade. After getting all the weapons I need I had no interest to run it on any other class and I actually have not been in it in months.
  • Lacerator3
    Only beat the first round for curiosities sake, not sure if get much further because I'm unsure how to build my dragon knight. I'm learning how to use a flame staff now. I usually duel wield but am entirely new to making the textbook builds. I look forward to finding one that I can excel at.
  • Stoopid_Nwah
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    Magsorc and magnb, first chest I opened to find a winterborn robe :expressionless:...since then though I have received a few good drops and so many decisive drops, at least I have my sharpened lightning staff for pvp.
  • darthsithis
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    yes!
    Message me if you want to do trials/dungeons, or need a trading guild! Flawless conqueror magsorc with a bad sense of armor fashion.
  • FriedEggSandwich
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    Cant beat stage 1 lol

    Are you a tank? Or low cp? Stage 1 introduces the concept of 'dps race', a concept the other 8 stages will reinforce. It's rough if you don't build for max damage.

    Not a tank, max CP, just terrible at the game. Ah well!

    :( watch some videos man. I feel like if I can do it anyone can lol.
    PC | EU
  • phairdon
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    Yet to get past the first stage as I could not complete the final round.
    Your immersion is breaking my entitlement. Buff Sorc's. Darkshroud the cremator Death by furRubeus BlackFluffy knight BladesThe Fat PantherPsijic Fungal SausageFlesheater the VileCaspian Rafferty FernsbyArchfiend Warlock PiersThe Black BishopEvil Wizard Lizard (EU)Neberra Vestige Fajeon (EU)Salanis Deathstick (EU)Blood Mage Alchemist (EU)
  • madmamado
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    im stuck on stage 5 boss round with my mag soc and magplar but yesterday i made it till the stage 6 boss round with my stam sorc using a " cancer " build ( viper , br , tremorscale )
    ps : i hope i finish it before they nerf viper :dizzy:
  • ListerJMC
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    Finished it on my mag sorc, now I'm working on getting my stam nb through it :).
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  • Doctordarkspawn
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    CarbonX wrote: »
    I think it's the worst designed content in the entire game...

    Could you please elaborate more on this?


    Certainly. Two aspects of it annoy the crap out of me.

    One. Mechanics and building. This is the one piece of content that requires direct builds specifically for it to counter some of it's mechanics. In many cases, those mechanics are absolute garbage. Random mines on arena 7. The traps on Arena 2. They serve no purpose other than making sustained fights difficult, leading into reason 2.

    Two. It's a DPS race. That's what it is, a single player DPS race. It's designed as a single player trial, and this does not mesh well with endurance tests. It basicly just ammounts to 'can you kill it before it and the mechanics kill you?' It's why so many Maelstrom setups use twohanded, the burst damage is the best way of accomplishing it.

    Oh, and a freebie I've allready stated. Are you a tank or healer? Go *** yourself because your never geting those weapons.

    It can be as easy the second or third time around all it likes, but I hate it on a fundemental design level and this is not what I want from singleplayer content. I want content that does not punish tanks for existing. Or healers for that matter, dangling rewards for us that we will never be able to get. (Yes, I know Deltia has a tank build that completes Maelstrom. That was only possible recently.) @CarbonX
    Edited by Doctordarkspawn on 3 November 2016 04:51
  • Lukums1
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    I love the
    CarbonX wrote: »
    I think it's the worst designed content in the entire game...

    Could you please elaborate more on this?
    CarbonX wrote: »
    I think it's the worst designed content in the entire game...

    Could you please elaborate more on this?

    Certainly. Two aspects of it annoy the crap out of me.

    One. Mechanics and building. This is the one piece of content that requires direct builds specifically for it to counter some of it's mechanics. In many cases, those mechanics are absolute garbage. Random mines on arena 7. The traps on Arena 2. They serve no purpose other than making sustained fights difficult, leading into reason 2.

    Two. It's a DPS race. That's what it is, a single player DPS race. It's designed as a single player trial, and this does not mesh well with endurance tests. It basicly just ammounts to 'can you kill it before it and the mechanics kill you?' It's why so many Maelstrom setups use twohanded, the burst damage is the best way of accomplishing it.

    Oh, and a freebie I've allready stated. Are you a tank or healer? Go *** yourself because your never geting those weapons.

    It can be as easy the second or third time around all it likes, but I hate it on a fundemental design level and this is not what I want from singleplayer content. @CarbonX

    Oh boy, Let me destroy your statements.

    There is no right, wrong build if you can clear it you clear it this depends on skill level. You give me a reasonable build and bet you 100k gold straight up I can finish it.

    The "mines" or so you call it on round 7 just means (awareness) if you're not looking around you at the "environment" guess what you're going to die.
    The "traps" on around 2, can be stood in, that's right stood in directly all day long you have some sustain and vigor? You'll be fine, not stam? Np shields on magicka classes, trust me this is a l2p issue for most.

    I've done it while I was learning and the fights dragged out FOR AGES not kidding the last boss round 2 easy 8 minutes now it's something like 50 seconds.

    You're correct on one thing, if you are a tank/healer you won't be getting those weapons you need to take a step back and restat your character change your gear on that character and run it?
    Why would you say oh healers are %#$!@ed essentially temp "healers" spec and respec all the time just because most are like nah man... I don't wanna get those gears required because " im a tank or in this case heals" is really bad mentality and between you and I, %@# them no effort? Guess what no weapons.
    Edited by Lukums1 on 3 November 2016 04:55
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  • SublimeSparo
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    Cleared on all classes, stam and magic
    Cleared in 1st person
    Cleared using only heavy attacks.

    Still haven't got any BiS weapons, not a single bloody one
    PS4 EU CP900. PS4 NA CP600,
    vAA HM ☆ vHRC HM ☆ vSO HM ☆ vMOL
    4th Console vMOL clear,
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    Dilemma Dame - Altmer - mDK DD
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  • Juhasow
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    Have I finished it ? Yes
    Have I joined it ? No
    Edited by Juhasow on 3 November 2016 05:25
  • code65536
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    This is the one piece of content that requires direct builds specifically for it to counter some of it's mechanics. In many cases, those mechanics are absolute garbage. Random mines on arena 7. The traps on Arena 2. They serve no purpose other than making sustained fights difficult, leading into reason 2.
    You don't need specific builds to survive stages 2 and 7. The plants on stage 7 are mostly a test of situational awareness and reaction. I died to them all the time at first, and now I rarely touch them. They can still pose problems and can cause unfair deaths because they are random and sometimes spawn at the worst time in the worst place, but most runs, I have no problems avoiding them.

    For stage 2, the blades are a nuisance, easily countered with careful movement and some self-heals. You don't need a specific build for it--I've beaten stage 2 on every one of my characters, each with a different build.

    The kind of build you need for vMA is the kind of build you need for any kind of solo content--running dungeons solo (or in a group so bad and in need of so much carrying that you're effectively soloing), taking down world bosses solo or duo, running around in Craglorn prior to the OT nerfs, or engaging in solo or small-scale PvP. You need self-healing. You need to be self-sufficient in resource sustain. And you need to be reasonably survivable while also being able to dish out damage. These are not outlandish or exotic requirements, and none of it requires some sort of extraordinary build.

    Two. It's a DPS race. That's what it is, a single player DPS race. It's designed as a single player trial, and this does not mesh well with endurance tests. It basicly just ammounts to 'can you kill it before it and the mechanics kill you?' It's why so many Maelstrom setups use twohanded, the burst damage is the best way of accomplishing it.

    Oh, and a freebie I've allready stated. Are you a tank or healer? Go *** yourself because your never geting those weapons.
    You evidently haven't even tried vMA, then (esp. that comment about 2-handers; dual-wield and bow is what stamina players predominately use in vMA). The DPS-burn strategy is what people do after they've cleared the arena countless times, have every single mob spawn memorized, and can do the arena with their eyes close (figuratively). These are the people making the shiny videos and dominating the leaderboards, but they are few in number.

    For most people, the arena is very much an endurance test. And this is especially true for anyone working on their first clear. DPS-burn isn't the only viable strategy. In fact, it's a strategy that is very much non-viable for most players.

    There is no "right" build or strategy for vMA, and there are many ways of making it work. Of course, if you're running vMA competitively and shooting for record times, then you will require specific builds and specific strategies. But why are you judging the arena on what a small subset of people do?

    Here is a video of someone completing vMA for his first time on a magicka DK, wearing heavy armor and using sword-and-shield on both bars:
    As for me, my first time clearing vMA, my front bar was a Restoration Staff, and my back bar was Sword-and-Shield. Also, speaking as a tank (I spend almost as much time as a tank in this game as I do as a DPS; I have 4 different champion-rank characters that I can tank on), my only tank-related complaint about Maelstrom is that the tank weapon is garbage (the restoration staff is pretty useless too). Just because you're a tank doesn't mean you never DPS--what do you do when you solo-quest? Taunt your enemies to death? Any well-rounded tank should have a DPS gearset and should have no problems in vMA.

    Maybe you should actually try the content before playing pundit.

    I hate it on a fundemental design level and this is not what I want from singleplayer content.
    You seem to want solo content that isn't solo content. Tanks and healers are support roles. They make absolutely no sense outside of group content. The objective of any combat game--not just ESO--is to kill the enemy. In group content, the support roles help others kill. In solo content, they have to do the killing themselves. That's just the way it is. If you don't like that--and I personally know many tanks and healers who don't--that's fine, just stick to group content. However, this notion that you should still have group support roles in solo content is utterly nonsensical.
    Edited by code65536 on 3 November 2016 06:31
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  • Stoopid_Nwah
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    Lukums1 wrote: »
    I love the
    CarbonX wrote: »
    I think it's the worst designed content in the entire game...

    Could you please elaborate more on this?
    CarbonX wrote: »
    I think it's the worst designed content in the entire game...

    Could you please elaborate more on this?

    Certainly. Two aspects of it annoy the crap out of me.

    One. Mechanics and building. This is the one piece of content that requires direct builds specifically for it to counter some of it's mechanics. In many cases, those mechanics are absolute garbage. Random mines on arena 7. The traps on Arena 2. They serve no purpose other than making sustained fights difficult, leading into reason 2.

    Two. It's a DPS race. That's what it is, a single player DPS race. It's designed as a single player trial, and this does not mesh well with endurance tests. It basicly just ammounts to 'can you kill it before it and the mechanics kill you?' It's why so many Maelstrom setups use twohanded, the burst damage is the best way of accomplishing it.

    Oh, and a freebie I've allready stated. Are you a tank or healer? Go *** yourself because your never geting those weapons.

    It can be as easy the second or third time around all it likes, but I hate it on a fundemental design level and this is not what I want from singleplayer content. @CarbonX
    The "traps" on around 2, can be stood in, that's right stood in directly all day long you have some sustain and vigor? You'll be fine, not stam? Np shields on magicka classes, trust me this is a l2p issue for most.
    Lol at this point I'm so bored with Maelstrom that I make it a goal to dance around those traps and not get hit by a single one. But to be fair, I can see how the environmental mechanics can be frustrating to get used to for those who are new to the arena. I know I still get irritated when I lose track of the flowers on stage 7.
  • Farorin
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    I'll try again when I get the gear sets I want. But yeah, It's just soooo loooooong..... and tedious.
  • Totalitarian
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    Could have finished it several months ago, probably including Flawless, if I felt like it.

    I just haven't had the want to do/finish it.

    A few weeks ago, I decided on beating the final round, and then I think the servers were down, so I played a different game.
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  • Lukums1
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    The "traps" on around 2, can be stood in, that's right stood in directly all day long you have some sustain and vigor? You'll be fine, not stam? Np shields on magicka classes, trust me this is a l2p issue for most.[/quote]

    Lol at this point I'm so bored with Maelstrom that I make it a goal to dance around those traps and not get hit by a single one. But to be fair, I can see how the environmental mechanics can be frustrating to get used to for those who are new to the arena. I know I still get irritated when I lose track of the flowers on stage 7.
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    BNHAHAHAHAA Agreed.
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