Do you want to see the Eu Server moved to a better Location?

  • LoSnupo
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    No Keep it In Germany.
    Just don't move to server to Italy.
    Please, NOT.
  • Tyrion87
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    This is the most useless and stupid thread I've seen in weeks... and it is going to be closed for sure.
  • The Uninvited
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    No Keep it In Germany.
    billcage wrote: »
    Any country is not better than USA in server management technologies.USA is the number one in this business.Mega server management is a serious business . I think Germany has not enough resources for management Zos's mega server.

    Not sure if you're trolling, but this is Google's datacenter in the Netherlands (Germany's neighbours). It's not like we Europeans can't do things right. Location doesn't make a difference whatsoever.

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  • Asardes
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    Why blame the physical server? The problem may be due to a number of factors, including bad coding that makes the services crash (most likely) and of course the connectivity at another location, distant from the data center itself. It could also be due to a criminal activity like DDOS attack.
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  • alpehans
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    No Keep it In Germany.
    Frankfurt Germany is fine. Lots of other games have servers there. They just need better servers/tech/internet etc.
    But most of all, they need to actually care about other customers than Muricans ..... good luck with that.
  • Bryanonymous
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    Move the Eu server back to the U.S
    I play on NA, and I would like to see all platforms and servers merged into one super server so we can all be one big happy family.
  • alpehans
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    No Keep it In Germany.
    I play on NA, and I would like to see all platforms and servers merged into one super server so we can all be one big happy family.

    Troll bait detected :open_mouth:
  • Dread_Viking
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    No Keep it In Germany.
    Germany generally provides better ping across Eu
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  • Bryanonymous
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    Move the Eu server back to the U.S
    alpehans wrote: »
    I play on NA, and I would like to see all platforms and servers merged into one super server so we can all be one big happy family.

    Troll bait detected :open_mouth:

    Aren't we suppose to be 'One' Tamriel? XD
    Edited by Bryanonymous on 7 September 2016 09:59
  • I_killed_Vivec
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    alpehans wrote: »
    I play on NA, and I would like to see all platforms and servers merged into one super server so we can all be one big happy family.

    Troll bait detected :open_mouth:

    Not necessarily.

    A quick look at the forums, particularly the crafting one, shows loads of examples of people asking for something. I'd like to help but all too often they are on the wrong server/platform.
  • Blobsky
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    LOOL as a fellow brit I should state - We have one of the worst nets in the world :D
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  • Flameheart
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    No Keep it In Germany.
    Indeed internet infrastructure and especially broadband and fibre connections were not the best in germany 10 years ago. In 2012 Germany had one of the last slots in european ranking for broadband coverage (even behind Romania) and connection speeds, but meanwhile this looks much better:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Internet_connection_speeds

    ...but independant from tier 3 ISP driven internet connectivity, there is another measure for internet connectivity, the socalled backbone and routing knot connectivity, maintained by the very important Tier 1 ISPs or better called "carriers".

    You may have the best connection technology (fibre to home), but it is useless, if internet routing knots are bottlenecked. Some well known companies for those large tier 1 routing switches are level 3, Verizon etc. Especially Level 3 was well known for returning issues in the past, because this carrier is peering a big part of the internet traffic in Frankfurt.

    To be fair a packet loss or latency increase at those routing hops must not be a Level 3 problem. It might also be possible that a customer or a contracting party (your personal ISP for example) of Level 3 has just bought too less traffic volume or rights and/or a competitor ISP abuses peering rights and net neutrality by artificially downgrading their own net to overload the other carrier with data.

    In truth the facts are much more complex, but of course the reason is money as usual:

    https://netzpolitik.org/2014/netzneutralitaet-zwischen-den-grossen-level-3-beschuldigt-andere-isps-der-absichtlichen-drosselung/

    At last connection issues may base even on Zenimax own server architecture.

    ...on the other side...UK Internet is known für its outages and fragility too. To say it straightforward...the famous times of Empire and Commonwealth are long gone...and your Brexit won't help you in any ways.

    Edited by Flameheart on 7 September 2016 10:25
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  • JD2013
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    Blobsky wrote: »
    LOOL as a fellow brit I should state - We have one of the worst nets in the world :D

    Yeah, our internet isn't great in Britain. I mean, I am okay with my speeds, I get everything done that I need, but other countries in Europe have much better than us. Even Lithuania, so I am told by friends who are from there.
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  • josefcifkaeb17_ESO
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    Here's actual ESO's server location. :D
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  • Bryanonymous
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    Move the Eu server back to the U.S
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Blobsky wrote: »
    LOOL as a fellow brit I should state - We have one of the worst nets in the world :D

    Yeah, our internet isn't great in Britain. I mean, I am okay with my speeds, I get everything done that I need, but other countries in Europe have much better than us. Even Lithuania, so I am told by friends who are from there.

    You live on an island...
    Edited by Bryanonymous on 7 September 2016 10:05
  • Apherius
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    Yes move it to Great Briton or other places with better internet.
    in FRANCE .
  • JD2013
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    Blobsky wrote: »
    LOOL as a fellow brit I should state - We have one of the worst nets in the world :D

    Yeah, our internet isn't great in Britain. I mean, I am okay with my speeds, I get everything done that I need, but other countries in Europe have much better than us. Even Lithuania, so I am told by friends who are from there.

    You live on an island...

    Hey, don't you bring my island into this! :wink:
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  • alpehans
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    No Keep it In Germany.
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    alpehans wrote: »
    I play on NA, and I would like to see all platforms and servers merged into one super server so we can all be one big happy family.

    Troll bait detected :open_mouth:

    Not necessarily.

    A quick look at the forums, particularly the crafting one, shows loads of examples of people asking for something. I'd like to help but all too often they are on the wrong server/platform.

    One big megaserver would be awesome, it's the technical issue that makes it almost impossible. That's why I was thinking troll bait when he suggested it :smiley:
  • Bam_Bam
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    I'd like to see this thread closed for trolling and baiting.
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  • Bryanonymous
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    Move the Eu server back to the U.S
    alpehans wrote: »
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    alpehans wrote: »
    I play on NA, and I would like to see all platforms and servers merged into one super server so we can all be one big happy family.

    Troll bait detected :open_mouth:

    Not necessarily.

    A quick look at the forums, particularly the crafting one, shows loads of examples of people asking for something. I'd like to help but all too often they are on the wrong server/platform.

    One big megaserver would be awesome, it's the technical issue that makes it almost impossible. That's why I was thinking troll bait when he suggested it :smiley:

    50/50... I wasn't lying when I said I wished that we could have it, but I did know the opinion might trigger a few who would despise their server moving further away from them. I just wonder why they can't have several mega servers that connect to each other mega server and deliver one universe. Perhaps it just too much to maintain.
  • I_killed_Vivec
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    Blobsky wrote: »
    LOOL as a fellow brit I should state - We have one of the worst nets in the world :D

    Yeah, our internet isn't great in Britain. I mean, I am okay with my speeds, I get everything done that I need, but other countries in Europe have much better than us. Even Lithuania, so I am told by friends who are from there.

    You live on an island...

    No, we live on the mainland - Eurasia is an island off our south coast :)
  • josefcifkaeb17_ESO
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    Blobsky wrote: »
    LOOL as a fellow brit I should state - We have one of the worst nets in the world :D

    Yeah, our internet isn't great in Britain. I mean, I am okay with my speeds, I get everything done that I need, but other countries in Europe have much better than us. Even Lithuania, so I am told by friends who are from there.

    You live on an island...

    No, we live on the mainland - Eurasia is an island off our south coast :)

    Well, a continent is just a very fat island, which means being fat is better, so be fat!
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  • Asardes
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    Moving it back to the US is out of the question. That would also add to the current lag issues. There is a physical distance that would inevitably add a few dozen milliseconds at least. The end connection may add further lag.
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  • ZOS_KaiSchober
    Here's actual ESO's server location. :D
    s30pax.jpg

    Not enough cables but close enough. ;)


    These are the EU servers:
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  • Mikazan
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    No Keep it In Germany.
    Lets move seяvers to Яussia, Moskau. We caи fix all usiиg oиly a hammeя aиd sweaяing.
  • JD2013
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    Lets move seяvers to Яussia, Moskau. We caи fix all usiиg oиly a hammeя aиd sweaяing.

    And vodka! Don't forget the vodka! :D
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  • Andarne
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    Yes move it to Great Briton or other places with better internet.
    Here's actual ESO's server location. :D
    s30pax.jpg

    Not enough cables but close enough. ;)


    These are the EU servers:
    54725081fa7271dd6083db4d8685b9d8.jpg

    72d25c7769c29b3b467796da4b101a3d.jpg

    Funny to think that our entire ESO world is stored on those big black boxes.

    But seriously, find a new ISP or something. C'mon ZOS...
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  • CherryCake
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    Not enough cables but close enough. ;)


    These are the EU servers:
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    72d25c7769c29b3b467796da4b101a3d.jpg

    The order...
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  • JD2013
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    Not enough cables but close enough. ;)


    These are the EU servers:
    54725081fa7271dd6083db4d8685b9d8.jpg

    72d25c7769c29b3b467796da4b101a3d.jpg

    The order...
    94f.png

    For some reason, that picture is extremely satisfying to me.

    It's odd to see where Tamriel resides all on them servers. All that tech. I wish I understood it all better!
    Sweetrolls for all!

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  • elderscrollsb16_ESO109
    Regarding today login issue, it is in no way related to the EU server,

    The server(s) that performs authentication is/are located in united states.

    Performing a trace on the network while trying to login show that there's a DNS resolution for live-eu-services.elderscrollsonline.com

    This resolve to IP address 159.100.230.9 (always the same IP, testing with several DNS servers around the world)

    Checking this IP in the RIPE database show that it is located in the United States
    A traceroute confirm this.

    So authentication is made in US then once authenticated you are directed to the EU servers. Those are working fine.
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