Hexys Magicka Sorcerer PvP Build for 2.1 - Duels and Small Scale PvP

timmayyyboy · February 2016

CholericTyrant wrote: »

@Hexys Thank you, & have you considered running mages wrath on your overload bar? Id imagine that it would just make your burst far more deadly, but I don't have the gear or prox det to try it out yet. Although mages wrath may just be overkill. Thoughts?

Im not nearly as good as a playet as Hexys but i run mages wrath on my overload bar and i find it extremely helpful

CholericTyrant · February 2016

Thx timmayyyboy ill def try it out.
@Hexys Are the screenshots of your stats taken with food or without?

Ourorboros · February 2016

timmayyyboy wrote: »

CholericTyrant wrote: »

@Hexys Thank you, & have you considered running mages wrath on your overload bar? Id imagine that it would just make your burst far more deadly, but I don't have the gear or prox det to try it out yet. Although mages wrath may just be overkill. Thoughts?

Im not nearly as good as a playet as Hexys but i run mages wrath on my overload bar and i find it extremely helpful

PVPers can be very good at reviving to nearly full health from near death. I find Mages Wrath to be very helpful as a killing blow before they can do this.

0Ithilien · March 2016

I love this build, I use it both in PvP, and also in PvE. But I do have a question about it.
When I run this build, I don't use a destruction staff in the place of dual wielding in the first ability bar. Why do you dual wield in that bar instead of using a destruction staff?
I've heard people say that there are passive a on the dual wield tree that damage of attacks (apparently of both spell damage and weapon damage). And that would definitely be worth using dual wield, but when I look at the passives, the only ones that increase weapon damage is one that will increase damage overall (I'm guessing this is what they are talking about), ONLY if the enemy is knocked down, or any other thing like that (problem I find with that, is that the enemy in PvP is rarely knocked down, as they simply get right back up. All the other passives only increase damage of dual wield abilities, so that isn't useful for this build at all.
Is there something I'm missing here with the passives?

revonine · March 2016

0Ithilien wrote: »

I love this build, I use it both in PvP, and also in PvE. But I do have a question about it.
When I run this build, I don't use a destruction staff in the place of dual wielding in the first ability bar. Why do you dual wield in that bar instead of using a destruction staff?
I've heard people say that there are passive a on the dual wield tree that damage of attacks (apparently of both spell damage and weapon damage). And that would definitely be worth using dual wield, but when I look at the passives, the only ones that increase weapon damage is one that will increase damage overall (I'm guessing this is what they are talking about), ONLY if the enemy is knocked down, or any other thing like that (problem I find with that, is that the enemy in PvP is rarely knocked down, as they simply get right back up. All the other passives only increase damage of dual wield abilities, so that isn't useful for this build at all.
Is there something I'm missing here with the passives?

It's all about the extra spell damage that dual wield gives. My understanding is that the damage stat from your weapon is added to your spell and weapon damage. For example a V16 legendary staff gives 1335. A sword also gives 1335 but as your dual wielding a portion of the off-hands weapon power is also added to your spell/weapon damage. Therefore you get more spell damage from dual wielding.

0Ithilien · March 2016

revonine wrote: »

0Ithilien wrote: »

I love this build, I use it both in PvP, and also in PvE. But I do have a question about it.
When I run this build, I don't use a destruction staff in the place of dual wielding in the first ability bar. Why do you dual wield in that bar instead of using a destruction staff?
I've heard people say that there are passive a on the dual wield tree that damage of attacks (apparently of both spell damage and weapon damage). And that would definitely be worth using dual wield, but when I look at the passives, the only ones that increase weapon damage is one that will increase damage overall (I'm guessing this is what they are talking about), ONLY if the enemy is knocked down, or any other thing like that (problem I find with that, is that the enemy in PvP is rarely knocked down, as they simply get right back up. All the other passives only increase damage of dual wield abilities, so that isn't useful for this build at all.
Is there something I'm missing here with the passives?

It's all about the extra spell damage that dual wield gives. My understanding is that the damage stat from your weapon is added to your spell and weapon damage. For example a V16 legendary staff gives 1335. A sword also gives 1335 but as your dual wielding a portion of the off-hands weapon power is also added to your spell/weapon damage. Therefore you get more spell damage from dual wielding.

Oh I see, so in that case, its the weapons themselves that give the boost to damage, not the passives. So I should just not bother with the passives then?

revonine · March 2016

0Ithilien wrote: »

revonine wrote: »

0Ithilien wrote: »

I love this build, I use it both in PvP, and also in PvE. But I do have a question about it.
When I run this build, I don't use a destruction staff in the place of dual wielding in the first ability bar. Why do you dual wield in that bar instead of using a destruction staff?
I've heard people say that there are passive a on the dual wield tree that damage of attacks (apparently of both spell damage and weapon damage). And that would definitely be worth using dual wield, but when I look at the passives, the only ones that increase weapon damage is one that will increase damage overall (I'm guessing this is what they are talking about), ONLY if the enemy is knocked down, or any other thing like that (problem I find with that, is that the enemy in PvP is rarely knocked down, as they simply get right back up. All the other passives only increase damage of dual wield abilities, so that isn't useful for this build at all.
Is there something I'm missing here with the passives?

It's all about the extra spell damage that dual wield gives. My understanding is that the damage stat from your weapon is added to your spell and weapon damage. For example a V16 legendary staff gives 1335. A sword also gives 1335 but as your dual wielding a portion of the off-hands weapon power is also added to your spell/weapon damage. Therefore you get more spell damage from dual wielding.

Oh I see, so in that case, its the weapons themselves that give the boost to damage, not the passives. So I should just not bother with the passives then?

Unless it's not the case anymore "Twin Blade and Blunt" boosts the damage of all your attacks including class skills.

Tuvi · March 2016

Very rare visite this forum and good 2 see somethink interresting.

Nice build)

Il_Rettile · March 2016

With the new change on Champion Points, which is the best to set? the same of this build or some change?

radio5 · March 2016

I'm curious about this, too.

mubzander · March 2016

And me

Hexys · March 2016

As I've changed games towards Black Desert Online I will not update my build but I can still answers questions as I'm still knowledgable about ESO. I will put some info down that made me create this build and many others I've used.

The best ressources to have on a sorcerer is Max Magicka, this will scale up your damage and your shields. Spell damage is not so important because a sorcerer can time so much damage in 1 second that it will be overkill in almost all situations. The bigger shields will give you more time to land this burst.

Damage VS Ressources:
+ More damage = easier to kill pugs
+ More ressources = easier to win against a skilled opponent

Dual-wield VS Destruction Staff:
+ Dual-wield = higher timed burst
+ Destruction Staff = more constant pressure

My last build was 3 Willpower / 3 Magnus / 5 Kagrenac with all Max Magicka enchants and 3x Reduced magicka cost of spells on my jewelry. (with the CP cap of course!) + (with the race high elf you can replace Kagrenac for Vicious Death.)
3x reduced magicka cost of spells = 1.5k magicka recovery
2x reduced magicka cost of spells = 1.7k magicka recovery
1x reduced magicka cost of spells = 1.9k magicka recovery
0x reduced magicka cost of spells = 2k+ magicka recovery

As far as champions points go:
Red: max out Bastion, put some points into reduced crit damage and the rest in reduced melee damage.
Green: The Ratio I used is (5 Reduced magicka cost) (4 Magicka recovery) (1 reduced dodge roll cost)
Blue: mix between crit/elemental/thauma

If you have more detailed questions, ask them as I will check this topic to help anyone improving their sorcerer build!

vwmc · April 2016

@Hexys awesome stuff you got here, thanks for sharing all of this. Can you also share your thoughts on animation canceling for a DW Sorc? I'll share mine too and I'm very open to feedback please

1. Which kinds of animation canceling do you find most useful?

I like clipping into weapon swap and dodge roll, but not much into block or bash. The downside is that I end up not having the chance to clip too often, which I wish I did. I wonder if I should practice more clipping into block. The challenge is that I find a quick tap on a PS4 controller a bit slow/sticky-ish so that it makes me block for a bit longer than I wanted. I guess the follow up question is: Do you find it useful to clip spells into a quick block?

2. How about clipping weapon attacks into spells?

I like doing that for PvE constant damage, but not for PvP timed burst. How about that resto staff in the back bar though, do you find it useful to clip resto weapon attacks into spells? Is there a difference between medium and heavy attacks from fire/ice staffs where you launch a projectile vs. resto/lighting staffs where weapon attacks seem tunneled, in regards to animation canceling? And what are your thoughts on that regarding DK/S&B reflects? You mentioned something about that but I didn't understand exactly.

3. Anything else I'm missing that could be helpful?

vwmc · April 2016

ping ^^

Hexys wrote: »

If you have more detailed questions, ask them as I will check this topic to help anyone improving their sorcerer build!

Waffennacht · April 2016

@vwmc seeing as most of your post pertains to preferences to animation cancelling and hexy, i cannot answer.

However, as for your question about heavy attacks and light attacks with either the restoration staff or lightning destruction staff, I can shed some insight.

These act like normal light attacks if you preform a typical light attack, the amount of damage differs.

Now when you preform a heavy attack with these, they create a channeled attack. They tick 3 times, each tick is at .9 seconds. These are considered dots and will procc abilities that require them.

Emma_Overload · April 2016

It's a good build, but I didn't see a lot of stamina based opponents in that video. Sorcs have always been strong against other magic users. I wanna see @Hexys take down some nasty Stamblades and WB spammers!

Hexys · April 2016

This is my gear right now!

Beardimus · April 2016

Hi @Hexys not sure if you are still checking this thread, curious how well you generate ultimate on DW on bar one? I'm giving a variation on this a go but do like using OL - but what generates ultimate for you?

(bit of a noob question, I dont fully understand Ultimate - some have told me its purely light / heavy attacks but I know crushing shock builds it - and also I see different levels of ultimates between the bars (if I have OL & something else on back bar) but was told the level is the same on both?

Sorry I digress!! SO - Ultimate generation on DW?

Thanks!!

Hexys · April 2016

Beardimus wrote: »

Hi @Hexys not sure if you are still checking this thread, curious how well you generate ultimate on DW on bar one? I'm giving a variation on this a go but do like using OL - but what generates ultimate for you?

(bit of a noob question, I dont fully understand Ultimate - some have told me its purely light / heavy attacks but I know crushing shock builds it - and also I see different levels of ultimates between the bars (if I have OL & something else on back bar) but was told the level is the same on both?

Sorry I digress!! SO - Ultimate generation on DW?

Thanks!!

From the restoration bar:
Proximity - LA - Harness - LA - Thundering+Switch to DW

done.

Beardimus · April 2016

Ta for fast reply @Hexys!! awesome so is it just LA on that combo thats charging it do you know? or all the skills to?

Thanks v much

ToRelax · April 2016

Beardimus wrote: »

Ta for fast reply @Hexys!! awesome so is it just LA on that combo thats charging it do you know? or all the skills to?

Thanks v much

Just the light attacks. ^^
The ultimate generation buff lasts for 8 seconds, so if you want/need to continuously build up ultimate, you might have to switch to resto that often (wich makes sense because Proximity Detonation lasts 8 sec, too). You also get the buff form dodging/blocking though, allowing you to build up ultimate on the dualwield bar as well.

vwmc · April 2016

Waffennacht wrote: »

@vwmc seeing as most of your post pertains to preferences to animation cancelling and hexy, i cannot answer.

However, as for your question about heavy attacks and light attacks with either the restoration staff or lightning destruction staff, I can shed some insight.

These act like normal light attacks if you preform a typical light attack, the amount of damage differs.

Now when you preform a heavy attack with these, they create a channeled attack. They tick 3 times, each tick is at .7 seconds. These are considered dots and will procc abilities that require them.

Thanks Waff. That was helpful.

888and888 · May 2016

Hello,
I'm quite new to the game and I've decided to try a sorcerer, using this build and enjoying it... so far... Yesterday I read the patch notes from PTS and it seems I have to find a different filler because Trapping Webs is not going to be suitable anymore.
I couldn't find a good replacement, has any more experienced player found a good solution? Thank you!

Waffennacht · May 2016

The only spammable dps move sorcs have not tied into a staff is Mage's Wrath, it doesn't do a whole lot of damage, but using it as a proc for frag, and a constant execute status makes it a viable replacement

DjSolJAH · May 2016

Waffennacht wrote: »

The only spammable dps move sorcs have not tied into a staff is Mage's Wrath, it doesn't do a whole lot of damage, but using it as a proc for frag, and a constant execute status makes it a viable replacement

Trapping webs is the spammable ability in this build however it can be reflected/dodged

888and888 · May 2016

I see... So I have to decide either to switch to Destro Staff or to use a not-so-good ability. Thank you very much!

888and888 · June 2016

I've just seen that @Hexiss has posted his new STA build, I guess any MAG Sorcerer is more or less doomed...
@Hexiss itself mention a new build created by @Sheey, I'm not sure how viable it could be.

Minalan · June 2016

888and888 wrote: »

I've just seen that @Hexiss has posted his new STA build, I guess any MAG Sorcerer is more or less doomed...
@Hexiss itself mention a new build created by @Sheey, I'm not sure how viable it could be.

Lol. Even @hexsys gave up!