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Hexys Magicka Sorcerer PvP Build for 2.1 - Duels and Small Scale PvP

  • Makkir
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    Xeven wrote: »
    Ezareth wrote: »
    It procs with shields up

    It also is not consumed when they have CC immunity

    @Ezareth @Makkir

    Was this all ninja fixed since they introduced Defensive Rune? I remember doing some testing with it when it was brand new and it wouldn't proc with shields up and it was always consumed with any damage to health no matter if the attacker was CC immune or not. Am I just crazy or?


    I think it's always worked that way. I used this for the longest time when we had issues of stealthies one shotting people so I didn't have to slot radiant magelight.
  • Alec508
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    What skills was that where you turned into a ball of light? Not lightening form but something else....
  • Hexys
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    Alec508 wrote: »
    What skills was that where you turned into a ball of light? Not lightening form but something else....

    I think that you mean proximity detonation (morph of magicka detonation), which you unlock on assault level 7. (Rank 15 in PvP)

    Hardened ward also gives a soft blue glow.
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  • Alec508
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    Gotcha.. Any tips to leveling up assault ? I'm currently at 3 and a half . Do exp pots work ? Does sieging give you extra?
  • Tankqull
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    Alec508 wrote: »
    Gotcha.. Any tips to leveling up assault ? I'm currently at 3 and a half . Do exp pots work ? Does sieging give you extra?

    slot mutagen - run to the next crossed swords with your allince color involved spam the *** out of it while running through your allies kill a few enemys if you have the opportunity to do so.
    be happy with 15-80k AP/H depending on your allies success while being solo.
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  • leepalmer95
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    Tankqull wrote: »
    Alec508 wrote: »
    Gotcha.. Any tips to leveling up assault ? I'm currently at 3 and a half . Do exp pots work ? Does sieging give you extra?

    slot mutagen - run to the next crossed swords with your allince color involved spam the *** out of it while running through your allies kill a few enemys if you have the opportunity to do so.
    be happy with 15-80k AP/H depending on your allies success while being solo.

    Do you happen to know how much ap assault/support 6-7 is?

    Or could you link me to a ap table or something?
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  • Hexys
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    Assault/Support 6 = AR 12 = 809.601 AP
    Assault/Support 7 = AR 15 = 1.624.001 AP

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  • Lucky28
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    Alec508 wrote: »
    Gotcha.. Any tips to leveling up assault ? I'm currently at 3 and a half . Do exp pots work ? Does sieging give you extra?

    To the best of my knowledge, no. EXP pots do now help advance assault/support because they do not level up with XP but AP.

    1. Kill things.
    2. heal things
    3. Buy wall repair kits and repair them walls
    4. go into delves (in cyrodiil) and kill bosses which will give you a buff that increases AP gain
    5. always make sure to stick around for Defense/Offense ticks at keeps and resources
    6. make sure you have your home keep bonuses

    Might be forgetting a few not sure. but that's what i do.
    Edited by Lucky28 on 15 December 2015 10:01
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  • ToRelax
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    @Xeven @Ezareth @Makkir
    Sry to bring this up again, but - Defensive Rune definitely did not proc when your shields were up before IC. I'd consider that a huge nerf wich basically makes the skill useless for me, because I constantly get hit by something and don't want the GCD - or pre IC even casttime - wasted when I don't actually need it. No chance that is going back on my bars as is after trying it out some weeks ago.
    Additionally, you can't overwrite the disorient with another hard cc anymore - when you hit them with fragments, it will simply free them of the cc and give cc immunity, wich then also made me drop the other morph, even though it has no casttime now.
    Edited by ToRelax on 18 December 2015 14:45
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  • Xeven
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    ToRelax wrote: »
    @Xeven @Ezareth @Makkir
    Sry to bring this up again, but - Defensive Rune definitely did not proc when your shields were up before IC. I'd consider that a huge nerf wich basically makes the skill useless for me, because I constantly get hit by something and don't want the GCD - or pre IC even casttime - wasted when I don't actually need it. No chance that is going back on my bars as is after trying it out some weeks ago.
    Additionally, you can't overwrite the disorient with another hard cc anymore - when you hit them with fragments, it will simply free them of the cc and give cc immunity, wich then also made me drop the other morph, even though it has no casttime now.

    Thank you! I knew I wasnt crazy.
  • Waffennacht
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    So does this move work with a ward up or not? Im assuming its the same cc as frag so if you frag then rune, you won't see it take effect until the immunity is up? Which again if you hit them in that window it'll cancel the rune?

    To the post of all the buffs before engagement... where do you find non-NBs? I mean its so rare that a sorc gets to initiate a battle.

    I have always waffled on rune, if it works with a ward up and can work with cc immunity maybe I will try it
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  • tist
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    Hermm. I'm sitting at 39500 magicka, 3300 dmg and the same recovery with engine guardian. Not sure I like the setup too much but the 8% cost reduction could make the difference.
  • ToRelax
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    So does this move work with a ward up or not? Im assuming its the same cc as frag so if you frag then rune, you won't see it take effect until the immunity is up? Which again if you hit them in that window it'll cancel the rune?

    To the post of all the buffs before engagement... where do you find non-NBs? I mean its so rare that a sorc gets to initiate a battle.

    I have always waffled on rune, if it works with a ward up and can work with cc immunity maybe I will try it

    Yes, when you have the rune up and get hit by something, the enemy hitting you will be disoriented (the same kind as Agony), even if you had a shield up and it was not broken.
    As for the cc, if you have someone in the disorient and hit him with fragments, he will not get knocked down. Instead, the cc will break and he will get free cc immunity.
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  • Sheezabeast
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    What do you recommend in place of Proxy Det? I don't have it unlocked yet. Also I have the other morph of Spidies, is that ok too?
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  • Hexys
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    What do you recommend in place of Proxy Det? I don't have it unlocked yet. Also I have the other morph of Spidies, is that ok too?

    You can use Deadric Mines or Volcanic Rune unstead of Proximity. The Morph of webs doesn't matter as the synergy gets barely activated anyway. :p
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  • Xeven
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    I like defensive rune better in its current state. Being able to "bank" the GCD of a CC is pretty awesome. It can quickly change the tide of battle as far as who is on the offensive and who is on the defensive. Gap closing combos are no longer possible with rune up, which can really mess with some people and can allow you to gain the offensive footing instead of trying to recover from their initial combination of attacks.



    Edited by Xeven on 21 December 2015 16:13
  • Millerman34n
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    Very unique And it works! Nice!
  • Ezareth
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    ToRelax wrote: »
    @Xeven @Ezareth @Makkir
    Sry to bring this up again, but - Defensive Rune definitely did not proc when your shields were up before IC. I'd consider that a huge nerf wich basically makes the skill useless for me, because I constantly get hit by something and don't want the GCD - or pre IC even casttime - wasted when I don't actually need it. No chance that is going back on my bars as is after trying it out some weeks ago.
    Additionally, you can't overwrite the disorient with another hard cc anymore - when you hit them with fragments, it will simply free them of the cc and give cc immunity, wich then also made me drop the other morph, even though it has no casttime now.
    @xeven @ToRelax @Makkir


    All I can say is I proc it all the time with my shields up using my build. I killed a Sorc emperor using it, as well as some of the best PvPers out there. It also is often the only way you stand a chance at escaping a crit charge train.

    My playstyle is not very common so I don't think it will work for everyone. That's what I like about this game is the fact that different things work better or worse for different people. To each their own.
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  • Xeven
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    ToRelax wrote: »
    @Xeven @Ezareth @Makkir
    Sry to bring this up again, but - Defensive Rune definitely did not proc when your shields were up before IC. I'd consider that a huge nerf wich basically makes the skill useless for me, because I constantly get hit by something and don't want the GCD - or pre IC even casttime - wasted when I don't actually need it. No chance that is going back on my bars as is after trying it out some weeks ago.
    Additionally, you can't overwrite the disorient with another hard cc anymore - when you hit them with fragments, it will simply free them of the cc and give cc immunity, wich then also made me drop the other morph, even though it has no casttime now.
    @xeven @ToRelax @Makkir


    All I can say is I proc it all the time with my shields up using my build. I killed a Sorc emperor using it, as well as some of the best PvPers out there. It also is often the only way you stand a chance at escaping a crit charge train.

    My playstyle is not very common so I don't think it will work for everyone. That's what I like about this game is the fact that different things work better or worse for different people. To each their own.

    It works with shields up for us too, I was just saying when it first came out that wasnt the case, for a short period of time at least. It's much better now than it was IMO.
  • timmayyyboy
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    Hexys wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alJXSG5s5pg&feature=youtu.be

    Dueling Video added to show some gameplay with this build.

    Inspiring video mate! Love the det executes lol
  • timmayyyboy
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    @Hexys why power overload instead of energy?
  • Hexys
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    @Hexys why power overload instead of energy?

    No Idea, I'm not using overload attacks in PvP, random choice. :p
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  • timmayyyboy
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    Hexys wrote: »
    @Hexys why power overload instead of energy?

    No Idea, I'm not using overload attacks in PvP, random choice. :p

    Hahaha i see okay.
  • mikwin
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    Why did you choose 5 piece seducer over julianos? Wouldn't the extra spell damage and crit be better than the recovery. I was thinking of using all light with julianos and magnus so i have good recovery and spell damage but less magic as im not using the undaunted passive.
  • Sarousse
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    What addon gives you the guild name under your target please ?
  • Hexys
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    mikwin wrote: »
    Why did you choose 5 piece seducer over julianos? Wouldn't the extra spell damage and crit be better than the recovery. I was thinking of using all light with julianos and magnus so i have good recovery and spell damage but less magic as im not using the undaunted passive.

    Sorcerer is not about stacking damage, it's about timing your burst. Seducer will give us the sustain we need, With Julianos you will loose against good players because they will drain your stats to fast.
    Sarousse wrote: »
    What addon gives you the guild name under your target please ?

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  • SmalltalkJava
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    Interesting, I'm learning a lot from this thread
  • CholericTyrant
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    @Hexys Quick question, which dual wield passives do you take?
  • Hexys
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    @Hexys Quick question, which dual wield passives do you take?

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  • CholericTyrant
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    @Hexys Thank you, & have you considered running mages wrath on your overload bar? Id imagine that it would just make your burst far more deadly, but I don't have the gear or prox det to try it out yet. Although mages wrath may just be overkill. Thoughts?
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