Shield breaker set/ Shield stacking

Mac10murda · March 2016

Hulk_VI wrote: »

The shield breaker set five piece should be reworked. It should still go through shields but not make it spam able like it is now. Have it do 5k damage to your health straight up, but add a 5 to 7 second cool down. Sounds fair to me, what about you guy's?

As long as they fix it so it don't work when using annulment doesn't make sense to get SB down when casting a shield to just mitigate magicka

Galvanize · March 2016

I don't have a problem with shield breaker but a person who uses shield breaker with wings is insane.

Burning_Talons · March 2016

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Shieldbreaker is complete BS, I can kill sorcs with my stamina NB just fine without it.

If you cant burst through Hardened Ward as a stam build you're doing something wrong.

You main a sorc. Your biased opinion is invalid

ToRelax · March 2016

Burning_Talons wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Shieldbreaker is complete BS, I can kill sorcs with my stamina NB just fine without it.

If you cant burst through Hardened Ward as a stam build you're doing something wrong.

You main a sorc. Your biased opinion is invalid

If opinions are biased because people are affected by this set, then so would they be for people using it. What's left then is the stam builds who rather use another set and the magicka builds who couldn't care less. I don't think that would give us any better picture.

FriedEggSandwich · March 2016

Burning_Talons wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Shieldbreaker is complete BS, I can kill sorcs with my stamina NB just fine without it.

If you cant burst through Hardened Ward as a stam build you're doing something wrong.

You main a sorc. Your biased opinion is invalid

Surely if he mains a sorc he would have plenty of first-hand experience of stam builds breaking his ward without shieldbreaker.

rfennell_ESO · March 2016

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

Surely if he mains a sorc he would have plenty of first-hand experience of stam builds breaking his ward without shieldbreaker.

The issue is generally a skills based argument.

Sorcs that are not very mobile are easy kills with shield breaker. That is basically the ones that do not realize that some of us use shield breaker and just salivate finding "those sorcs".

It's not quite so effective versus sorcs that are mobile and actually move behind things and duck around corners and use los vs you.

Basically, shield breaker is excellent vs baddies. It's useful versus good sorcs as an execute (to prevent the 10% health and I'm shield stacking problem).

LizardThixvim · March 2016

my problem is when i tried to play mag dk, i used igneous shield a 1-2k shield and died thanks to shield breaker spam on me, its a set made to kill sorcs, but kills mag temp, dk who both use a 1-3k shield which is silly

rfennell_ESO · March 2016

Casts_Many_Heals wrote: »

my problem is when i tried to play mag dk, i used igneous shield a 1-2k shield and died thanks to shield breaker spam on me, its a set made to kill sorcs, but kills mag temp, dk who both use a 1-3k shield which is silly

It only really is "made to kill" for inexperienced sorcs.

The rest of the time it's a way of executing people that try to shield at low health to heal themselves up.

leepalmer95 · March 2016

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

Casts_Many_Heals wrote: »

my problem is when i tried to play mag dk, i used igneous shield a 1-2k shield and died thanks to shield breaker spam on me, its a set made to kill sorcs, but kills mag temp, dk who both use a 1-3k shield which is silly

It only really is "made to kill" for inexperienced sorcs.

The rest of the time it's a way of executing people that try to shield at low health to heal themselves up.

A stam dk using La-ransack-bash with shield breaker eat sorc.

I still think a set that directly ignores a class defence skill should never of been introduced in the first place. It's the equivilant of gear ignoring cloak, ignoring wings, stopping templar heals etc...

Though i also agree that hardened ward and harness shouldn't stack. One or the other. Healing ward should though.

LiquidSchwartz · March 2016

Ankael07 wrote: »

Fairly easy to outdamage 2150 dmg in 1v1 against a nb.I just pop a detect potion with spell damage and try to burst them down before they realize Im experienced against shield breaker.Dk's and their reflective scales on the other hand is a nuisance for me currently

Usually I wear hunting, but i keep a set on me just for fighting sorcs it's the best feeling ever getting messages by noobs who don't know about shield breaker calling me a hacker/ rage calling me a scrub for using shield breaker

Ender1310 · March 2016

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

Shield-breaker is cheese. On the other hand, it doesn't do that much damage unless you let it. The key is not to panic when you hear it, dodge roll, immediately locate the offender and save that proc'd frags for them, or an overload light attack. I don't use overload light attacks against players, unless they are proccing that set on me. If you can't locate them then run between other friendly players; even if they have you targeted some light attacks will hit other players. If you can't do that then dodge roll more and pop a tripot, and run for cover. I only ever die to it when cc'd and out of stamina, and anything can kill you then.

The other thing is that it seems hardly anyone uses it any more, at least on eu pc, because people are either realising it's cheese, or that it's mostly a waste of a 5 slot.

Edit: With tripot it's possible to dodge attacks for around 6 seconds, which is how long it takes for healing ward to expire, so you can still use it as an emergency heal when being spammed, assuming you have stam and a tri-pot.

The fact that you have time to do all that is the problem. It tells me that there is a counter to this set and its not a problem but that shields are. Like Sorcs act like they have so much time on the battlefield they cry that they can't take on 10 people at once because of shield breaker. The rest of us mortals hide when we are outnumbered. The mentality of sorc players is just different but I guess by now you expect it.

Ender1310 · March 2016

ITS simple shields are the best defense in game.

ToRelax · March 2016

Ender1310 wrote: »

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

Shield-breaker is cheese. On the other hand, it doesn't do that much damage unless you let it. The key is not to panic when you hear it, dodge roll, immediately locate the offender and save that proc'd frags for them, or an overload light attack. I don't use overload light attacks against players, unless they are proccing that set on me. If you can't locate them then run between other friendly players; even if they have you targeted some light attacks will hit other players. If you can't do that then dodge roll more and pop a tripot, and run for cover. I only ever die to it when cc'd and out of stamina, and anything can kill you then.

The other thing is that it seems hardly anyone uses it any more, at least on eu pc, because people are either realising it's cheese, or that it's mostly a waste of a 5 slot.

Edit: With tripot it's possible to dodge attacks for around 6 seconds, which is how long it takes for healing ward to expire, so you can still use it as an emergency heal when being spammed, assuming you have stam and a tri-pot.

The fact that you have time to do all that is the problem. It tells me that there is a counter to this set and its not a problem but that shields are. Like Sorcs act like they have so much time on the battlefield they cry that they can't take on 10 people at once because of shield breaker. The rest of us mortals hide when we are outnumbered. The mentality of sorc players is just different but I guess by now you expect it.

Any class can fight outnumbered when played by a better player than those he is up against.

Lokey0024 · March 2016

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To get burnt by shieldbreaker before you can react probably meant you should be dead anyhow.