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NB Magicka ST DPS (PvE)

  • DeLindsay
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    F7sus4 wrote: »
    They won't solve the problem this way and there is a good reason for it. It would allow Stamina builds to take more advantage from using Funnel Health and developers wouldn't allow that. A greater cost on Magicka ability, however, will prevent that from happening and this is the way it should be done.
    I kind of doubt Stam builds would use FH in their rotation if ZoS just added 5-15% damage to it and maybe not even if they added 30% since it doesn't scale at all off of Stamina/WD. Also from a NB Healer perspective, I'm fine with FH increasing a little bit in cost but not too much or it could become a burden for that Role, which is why I only suggested 5-15% increase in cost along with the same in damage. Sure it wouldn't mean Magicka NB would go from last to first but it would still help.

    I also think only a small increase would be needed from Cripple since it's already one of the best DoT's in the game. The bigger issue I see is fixing Grim Focus so it's more usable, less clunky, and more than a slight DPS increase, which is what it is now. I tested it over 4 AA runs and it certainly increased DPS and FH's HPS but it was a minor increase at best. For an ability with such a short duration it should be a more significant value. Maybe ZoS could change it from Minor Berserk to Major (8% to 20%) since Minor can be given by Combat Prayer anyway. The only real problem with doing that is Grim Focus certainly would be used by Stamina builds if it gave Major thus possibly causing them to shoot up too high so even that's a slippery slope. Soul Harvest Ultimate already gives Major Berserk, for a short time so it's not too much of a stretch to have ZoS add it to Grim Focus (if it wouldn't drastically unbalance Stamina builds).

    On a side note, does anyone know where Magicka NB's can gain Minor Sorcery? We get Major from Structured Entropy and Sap Essence but I can't find an ability that gives Minor.
  • F7sus4
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    DeLindsay wrote: »
    I kind of doubt Stam builds would use FH in their rotation if ZoS just added 5-15% damage to it and maybe not even if they added 30% since it doesn't scale at all off of Stamina/WD.
    I would like you to be right on this one. Unfortunately many Stamina Nightblade builds use Funnel Health as a dump cast (when out of Stamina).
    DeLindsay wrote: »
    Also from a NB Healer perspective, I'm fine with FH increasing a little bit in cost but not too much or it could become a burden for that Role, which is why I only suggested 5-15% increase in cost along with the same in damage. Sure it wouldn't mean Magicka NB would go from last to first but it would still help.
    Yeah, NB healing is quite OK as long as you go full heal, which prevents you from doing any DPS output. This also means you can't really deal damage and still lack stable self-heal that all other classes already have. This issue was commonly discussed already and yet, is still not addressed.
    DeLindsay wrote: »
    I also think only a small increase would be needed from Cripple since it's already one of the best DoT's in the game. The bigger issue I see is fixing Grim Focus so it's more usable, less clunky, and more than a slight DPS increase, which is what it is now. I tested it over 4 AA runs and it certainly increased DPS and FH's HPS but it was a minor increase at best. For an ability with such a short duration it should be a more significant value.
    While I like your way on thinking, this also makes another spell perma-glued to our skil bars, thus making it (the bar) even less versatile than it is already. This is why as simple solution as direct Funnel Health damage buff was proposed. It leaves more space for 1 additional spell, whatever is needed like Healing Ward, Shadow Image or other utility.
    DeLindsay wrote: »
    On a side note, does anyone know where Magicka NB's can gain Minor Sorcery? We get Major from Structured Entropy and Sap Essence but I can't find an ability that gives Minor.
    Nowhere.
    Edited by F7sus4 on 16 March 2015 01:01
  • DeLindsay
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    F7sus4 wrote: »
    DeLindsay wrote: »
    On a side note, does anyone know where Magicka NB's can gain Minor Sorcery? We get Major from Structured Entropy and Sap Essence but I can't find an ability that gives Minor.
    Nowhere.
    Ok thank you.

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