Vampire Bat Swarm ultimate damage is nerfed by 25% in 1.3.4 patch. Blazing Shield still crits 2-3k

Azraeel · August 2014

All i know is that Zenimax should seriously stop nerfing Vampirism any further, because it is on the verge of breaking what is not broken. Vampirism is in a sweet spot now, not OP and not too weak. Not to mention they are about to buff WW.

Domander · August 2014

Of all the things to whine about

Schno · August 2014

A few hours ago I one hitted for 3,6k in duel on bow of shadows campaign.
Opponent rage quitted after getting pawned by bug.

I´d say we will still see a few shield bombs before it get fixed.

Maybe a ZOS dude can give a few news about things like: "Bug fixed", "Bug not fixed", "New feature", or "Stop QQ and learn to handle it"? ^^

Dekkameron · August 2014

You know blazing shield wouldn't hurt so much if you didn't have 10 peeps attacking them.

Schno · August 2014

Dekkameron wrote: »

You know blazing shield wouldn't hurt so much if you didn't have 10 peeps attacking them.

3,6k .... no matter if you have 1 enemy or 10 enemys on your shield. When it explodes over 800 dmg its the bug and not the people who let stack the damage.
They have only supported it to reach a louder BANG! ^^
Can also explode with such Damage against NPCs (no stupid or slow player needed)

Adrastes · August 2014

again pvp player crying for nerf that in the end has impact on us pve players. stop it you pvp mongrels.

Schno · August 2014

This would be NO NERF.
This would be a fix of a broken skill.
Your blazing shield will never explode for over 1k if it´s fixed.

You thought this is working as intended?

lathbury · September 2014

Got hit for 4.3k off it today saw a guy jump of the keep wall and stand under the corner of the keep facing into the wall doing something. So jumped in with ambush from stealth guess what no stun boom 4.3k damage. Guess he took damage on his shield and was just stood there stacking.
A Templar guildy said it's an exploit and to report it. I was the only one close to him as the rest were stood back or using siege on the walls.

Nicko_Lps · September 2014

magnusnet wrote: »

DK was nerfed so deep underground now people start crying about other classes.

Cute.

Idea:
- See a bat swarm? Stay away.
- See a templar using Blazing Shield? Stop attacking him and destroy his buddies till he moves.

Ah no, it's true, people leave their brains in the closet when they play.

So in raid vs raid all the raid moves away from the templar that is spamming the blazing shield untill he stops. Thats great tip lol

Even the fragmented shield whas having around..2000 max on my death recap and it was nerfed but not 3-4-5 k.

The shield must have A MAX DAMAGE BUFF and the stop buffing itself .

I know templars like it,all the others dont though.

OP for one mess the game for the other three classes. Fact.

Nicko_Lps · September 2014

NerfEverything wrote: »

ViciousWayz wrote: »

Over 4k damage from a level 17 LOLLLL This is nothing new. I've noticed this on my lowbie Temp for ages now and I'm surprised it's taking getting all this attention to fix this when Batswarm honestly did not need another nerf. Batswarm also has a lot more tell signs than blazing shield and Batswarm IS AN ULTIMATE.

You are on drugs if you don't think Batswarm needed a nerf. Have you done any PvP recently? Vamps are as OP as they were before the ultimate nerf.

And that 4k damage screenshot everyone is looking at, it was done by very carefully exploiting in a controlled situation, and is 100% IMPOSSIBLE in actual PvP.

1000% possible and not an exploit. As for vamps u can be one but i cant take a blazing shield on my nb and my dk so, stop crying about vamp opness as a classic answer cause if it was OP you would be one yourself.

Nicko_Lps · September 2014

Dekkameron wrote: »

You know blazing shield wouldn't hurt so much if you didn't have 10 peeps attacking them.

And the in raid ts3 the raid lead says "team stop attacking mr templar, he must finish casting first."

That is a joke not an answer,im sorry my friend lol

Schno · September 2014

Stacking shield while standing in enemy siege effects is very easy and the results are funny. Is it fair or honorably? In my opinion ... NOT.

Where is the Zenimax statement?

I want to know how Zenimax think about this Skill.

Is blazing shield working correct and we can stack until we are able to onehit enemys.
OR
Is blazing shield not working correct and we shouldnt be able to add the dmg from the shield before on the next shield.

Would be nice to know and maybe the damn discoussions about that skill will end ......... or explode like a stacked shield.

Roselle · September 2014

Please hang out in melee range of me and hit me with melee stuff when I have spiked bone shield and blazing shield going at the same time.

Thanks guys.

Drakoleon · September 2014

Last night my toon was killed about 10 times all of them from bat swarm

Brasseurfb16_ESO · September 2014

I think vampires deserved a nerf in some regards but the 25% damage nerf was not the one needed.

What makes Batswarm so good? It's its ability to track targets around the player. Add the Mistform bug, causing you to become untrackable, or a mobility skill (like Shield Charge, Bolt Escape, etc) and you get an unescapable high damaging AoE of death ready to mass murder anything around the player you decided to trackdown.

The 25% damage nerf isn't going to change anything in PvP, it is just going to make that skill less reliant in PvE.

The only way to fix that skill in PvP would be to remove its mobility element and make it another area of effect like the already existing ultimates in this game.

But I'm pretty sure vampires are going to thumb me down for speaking out such disgusting suggestion...

Dudis · September 2014

Skipped most (all) of the comments here, I just wanted to say, and i'm sure most people would agree, that the problem with Blazing Shield isn't when it's used "as intended".

The issue is that it's being bugged/exploited to oneshot people.

This is comming from a Templar that uses blazing shield but don't know or care how to exploit it.

Skizer78 · September 2014

Wow these numbers are ridiclous, considering that the damage shield can only be 30% of your max health and the cap is around 3600 if I remember correctly. To even get a 1200 to 1500 damage shield you have to have 4K to 5K health and I don't beleive a Templar would sacrifice spell damage gear or magicka resource gear for health points. I am guess they best someone can get damage shield wise is about 1k at max, so that is the normal damage you can expect from a nondamaged health bar casting Blazing Shield plus whatever amount extra if it tends to be a critical. People seem to fail to realize that the shield takes your current health into effect, so if a templar is not fast enough to cast the other shield before taking damge then that shield is reduced in maximium effectiveness. If by chance someone does hit you with a high damage amount than more than likely they have found a way around the system and should be dealt with singularly instead just axing every single templar out there for that persons actions.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO · September 2014

Schno wrote: »

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO wrote: »

I dont run out of battles trying not to hit people in order to exploit the shield and its usually only hitting for around 500 non crit. its the skill when working as intended is fine and dosent need to change. fix the exploit, dont nerf the shield.

True words dude !!!

We try to use it without this damn stacking issue. But sometimes especialy in 1v1 duels or smaller fights it will work broken, like explained before in this thread.

Sorry @ all victims of it, realy!

PS: Please fix soon. I hate to kill with a bug or a failure mechanik!!!

They should just make it so recasting procs the damage and starts a fresh shield, that way it can never be stacked and you don't lose your damage from trying not to die.

Schno · September 2014

SHIELD FIXED !

Discoussion closed? ^^