I'm just trying to figure this 'fine when used in a fight' logic out..
I consider myself in a perpetual state of war whenever I'm in Cyrodiil.. so I'm confused as to the perception some of you have that certain abilities are only acceptable when used in combat.
And that's why these are nothing but whine threads..
It's perfectly balanced to counter gap closers, but at some point sorcs shouldn't be able to use it anymore... then they get killed. As long as the sorc is getting killed, no problem..
Sorc gets away.. NERF!
There is no reason for the developers to entertain these changes when the entire discussion is based on someone using BE to gain range.
It's quite obvious that the ability was meant to give sorcs range. If the sorc decides to peace out, so be it..
Well it is not only giving them range it's allowing them to leave any fight they want to. It far exceeds its intentions.
Well it is not only giving them range it's allowing them to leave any fight they want to. It far exceeds its intentions.
Sorry, is the ability named "Bolt Kite" or "Bolt Battle Positioning"????
Seems clear to me that putting the word "escape" in there makes it clear that escape is one of the intended functions. People are obviously going to use it for other things as well. I love to use it in a fight to play toro with all the shield charging bash spamming one trick ponies out there.
Again, you guys must be new to MMOs or something. High damage builds with low survivability and self healing usually do get mobility options.
In GW2 the warrior got Bull's Charge, Rush, Whirling Blade, ect. They could effectively out run any other class. Guardians on the other hand were the undisputed kings of bunkering, able to lock down an area and not die there.
That's the same dynamic going on in ESO right now.
The tanks that can't be killed are mad that the squishy bursty guys are able to run away from them. [Medium Armor and Heavy Armor Sorcs simply can't use it enough times, if you're having trouble catching a non-Light Armor sorc, you're just bad.] The complaints have nothing to do with balance.
Its 100% QQ.
In GW2 the warrior got Bull's Charge, Rush, Whirling Blade, ect. They could effectively out run any other class. Guardians on the other hand were the undisputed kings of bunkering, able to lock down an area and not die there.
That's the same dynamic going on in ESO right now.
The sorc had no intention of escaping, he was kiting the DK to drain the DKs stamina, then chose to turn and fight when he thought the DK was low enough on stamina to CC him to death.
If the sorc had wanted to he could have easily escaped after the 4th BE, you can tell this was not his intention because he stopped to block, then stayed to fight. If he was trying to get away he would have taken the stun, broke CC for immunity, then BE away two last times while being untouchable while still retaining half his stamina, and being able to pot for another several BEs.
If he wanted to escape at the start of the fight he would have taken the first charge stun, broke CC, and BE 3 more times and be in the clear without even using a pot or a skill besides BE a total of 4 times.
This video is a perfect example of why BE needs at the very minimum a 20% of the mana pools casting cost.
Sorry, is the ability named "Bolt Kite" or "Bolt Battle Positioning"????
Seems clear to me that putting the word "escape" in there makes it clear that escape is one of the intended functions. People are obviously going to use it for other things as well. I love to use it in a fight to play toro with all the shield charging bash spamming one trick ponies out there.
@Armitas
To be clear, you're still using Bolt Escape whether you pick Streak or Ball of Lightning. When you're discussing the ability as a whole, you usually use the base ability. If your problem is with one or the other morphs specifically, you should say so. Otherwise its assumed that Bolt Escape refers to all
Just like Pulsar is still Impulse, Streak is still Bolt Escape.
And obviously its not JUST semantics. The fact that they picked that name/word for the skill indicates that it was expected to be used in that way.
@Armitas
I've explained rather thoroughly why mobility and escape are intended play styles, why they are balanced, how they are present in all MMOs, ect. ect. throughout the forum.
You're being a bit silly and hard headed here by focusing on the fact that morphing a skill changes its name.
The fact of the matter is, no intelligent/reasonable/honest person could deny that Escape seems to have been a clearly intended function of the skill.
@Armitas
And what I'm trying to explain to you is that you're the one trying to make it semantic.
Other people are talking about the intended use of the skill, which semantics only hint at. Even if it was just called "Bolt" the function of the skill makes it clear that its an escape ability (for instance, it requires no target.)
Sorry, is the ability named "Bolt Kite" or "Bolt Battle Positioning"????
I played a bursty warrior in GW2. I LOVE high damage and high mobility builds. Its just my style...
My warrior was built to get into a fight, utterly destroy one person, and then run away.
Nord, our first encounter was ***. Seems since then we've almost always agreed
All of this is QQ, as i've said before, BE gets me away around 60% of the time. I don't quite think that's OP.
People scream nerf because they aren't good. Plain and simple.
Except in the case of vamp swarm, those were warranted, and it ended up being a bug!
I miss DAoC... If you got into a fight you had to fight it out (well 95% of the time some skills on 10 minute CDs could get you away)... but it was Fight or Die... no running away like little girls.
Its cheap, sorcs are gonna hate it if it gets nerfed. Then they will die like the rest of us instead of having their "oh ***" escape.
Raggok, after that video you have zero ground to stand on.
I used to think you were just a bad player who was having trouble countering a skill.
Maybe you learned how to counter it through these conversations or maybe you knew how all along. I remember you saying that Shield Charge wouldn't work because they're hard to keep track of. I responded by saying "use tab target." Saw you doing that in your video.
Either way, I know now that you know perfectly how to counter it and that you're able to do so.
So at this point your complaints just look unfounded and frankly quite ridiculous.