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Official Discussion Thread for "The Road Ahead - May 1"

  • human151
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    THanks for the update. Keep up the good work.

    Im loving the game and am happy to see that it can only get better.
  • Attorneyatlawl
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    So you guys announced chat bubbles.... can we get nameplates now too? :)
    -First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
    Exploits suck. Don't blame just the game, blame the players abusing them!

    -Playing since July 2013, back when we had a killspam channel in Cyrodiil and the lands of Tamriel were roamed by dinosaurs.
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  • Halrloprillalar
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    Xaei wrote: »
    If you cut out every possible cause for griefing, you may as well delete the game. It's a MMO, the actions of other players will affect your experience, whether that be good or bad.

    They could make NPCs instanced for it anyways.

    The updates are amazing and truly what the game needs, but I fear it's too late and the damage has been done.

    They need to really act fast, the clock is ticking.

    I don't really understand what you are saying. Regarding NPC killing - I am pretty certain they won't make it so you can't get/complete quests if someone killed your NPC, that would be silly and game breaking. Either instanced NPCs, or non-essential NPCs is the way it will likely be done (even in Skyrim there were 'unkillable' NPCs unless you used mods to adjust them... like children >:D).

    If you are saying you WANT to grief other people with this... then you need to go play another game please.

    As for dueling... it may be fun but it will open a whole another can of worms and endless QQ (and numerous bugs I'm sure), although if you REALLY wanted you could theoretically already duel someone in Cyrodiil (opposite factions only, of course). Personally I wouldn't mind the addition of a smaller scale pvp format and test dummies. Please please please, give us test dummies.

  • Chirru
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    I look forward to see these changes in action... well, done. And thanks for taking care of these Bot-Drivers.
  • nudel
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    Oh @Halrloprillalar‌ I hope they don't add children to this game. If they do, please for the love of Akatosh please don't make them as annoying and bratty as Skyrim's children. Please... *begs on hands and knees*

    But yea I agree. There's no way they would allow you to hijack quest and vendor NPCs. It will either be only select NPCs (kinda like how Intimidate only works for robbing certain random encounter vendors). Or it will be phased to the player so that killing/ robbing can only be seen by the person doing so and not by all the other players in that zone. I'm hoping for the latter personally. But heh I didn't think it would end up in an MMO at all, so I'll settle for the former if need be. A full multiplayer sandbox would lend itself to griefing, but ESO isn't one of these. We play together and we can affect the world a bit, but no one else has to put up with the consequences of our choices.
  • Carde
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    So you guys announced chat bubbles.... can we get nameplates now too? :)

    Lol, where was this? Because I remember very distinctly that they are against things cluttering up screens.

    I feel my 'mersion cracking.
    Member of the Psijic Order PTS Group
  • Jamotech
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    Keep up the awesome work people! Can't wait for some of the new stuff to come out.
    Sure bugs are annoying for anyone; at least you are addressing them straight away and not 3 months later like other game dev's.
  • DewiMorgan
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    I have been, and remain, delighted with this game.
    I'm very happy with this notice - the roadmap glimpse, the extra five days, the retrospective, the reassurances and the evidence of action being taken.

    More GMs would be good, though - I've not seen a one. Reporting botters should get a GM within a few minutes. That means a *team* of dedicated GMS.
    At the moment, it seems like someone on the dev team or social team or something says "hey, I'm bored, someone send out a notice that there'll be a GM active for fifteen minutes or so." - and we almost never see such a notice. My wife says she saw one, once.

    So, constant GMs, rather than occasional ones. You're making enough off the goldspammers buying accounts, that you can afford to support a team to combat them!
  • babylon
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    Can we add player housing to the list? A bit disappointed not to see it there.
  • Philsco
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    "A justice system—steal from and kill NPCs and deal with the consequences if you are caught"

    ...YES!

    I am also very interested in seeing a poisons system come into play! Poison-damage enchanted, poisoned swords??? My Nightblade shall be named... "Van Helsing..."
  • Reymas
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    Carde wrote: »
    So you guys announced chat bubbles.... can we get nameplates now too? :)

    Lol, where was this? Because I remember very distinctly that they are against things cluttering up screens.

    I feel my 'mersion cracking.

    Reddit AUA http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/24h8dv/welcome_to_the_zos_aua/ch73dhj

    Don't worry, they're optional.

    But at least RP won't be the most painful, headache-enducing experience ever now, haha!

    Don't forget, they're also against people staring at the interface and not the game. Now the chat can be in the world and not just part of the interface.

    If they do it like that one reddit image: http://i.imgur.com/EuLtLbB.jpg it will be nice and fitting.
    Edited by Reymas on 1 May 2014 22:52
    Honor, Duty and Piety for Morrowind
  • DewiMorgan
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    Speech bubbles?

    Please, no! I have been SO PROUD of you sticking to your guns on this... please don't enable them, not even as an option. As a downloadable Lua-add-on feature, perhaps, but not as a core gameplay mechanic.

    And now others mention... yes, all the coming stuff is group-and-fluff. I can understand the reasons - groups make us sticky, make for recurring subscriptions... but is it worth watering down the vision you were sticking so hard to, just to pander to the MMO-fans, at the cost of the TES fans?
    Edited by DewiMorgan on 1 May 2014 22:55
  • AryaWythers
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    So in order to receive the five free days that should be deserved to all that bought the game, people need to sign up for the re-occuring subscription....do you really care about how the players actually feel or just how much you can take from our wallets.

    Doesn't seem like a very smart idea to not extend this to everyone that bought the game and had to suffer...but I'm sure you will find a whole bunch of un-happy campers once you go through with this shameful compensation to only those who are paying you.

    The game was broken before launch and you made us all suffer not just those who continue to pay you for this extremely broken and frustrating game...to bad consumer affairs never get involved in this crooked industry.

    Are you really complaining that someone who doesn't want to sub doesn't get 5 free days?
    But they are giving people the five days...and not complaining just would have loved to see them do that because some think they are more important than others ;)

    I still would like to see a fix on Cyrodiil Grouping Bug, or at least it mentioned and the estimated time on when PvP'rs can get something from the game they paid for. Even though asking to group shouldn't be considered REAL problem, just a basic game function...unlike being able to get a stupid chest in a public dungeon.
    Edited by AryaWythers on 1 May 2014 23:00
  • Reymas
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    DewiMorgan wrote: »
    Speech bubbles?

    Please, no! I have been SO PROUD of you sticking to your guns on this... please don't enable them, not even as an option. As a downloadable Lua-add-on feature, perhaps, but not as a core gameplay mechanic.

    And now others mention... yes, all the coming stuff is group-and-fluff. I can understand the reasons - groups make us sticky, make for recurring subscriptions... but is it worth watering down the vision you were sticking so hard to, just to pander to the MMO-fans, at the cost of the TES fans?

    It's not possible to create speech bubbles with the LUA addon. The best you can get is "Simple Chat Bubbles" which is completely inadequate.

    If it's optional and you can turn it off with a check box in interface options, why does it bother you?
    Honor, Duty and Piety for Morrowind
  • Losian
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    This is the official discussion thread for the blog article The Road Ahead - May 1. We hope you enjoyed getting a peek into the future for ESO!

    Awesome. Great list of stuff; a lot of it would be extremely well served and plenty of it is just darn good ideas.

    My biggest though regarding dungeon scaling peoples' levels: It's nice to let levels go DOWN sometimes as much as up. Sure, some folks like to jump in with their higher level friends.. but it's also nice at times to jump in with your lower level friends and help them out.. Not everyone wants to stomp over and trivialize content entirely while helping friends/guildmates!

    Just last night my partner and I were running a dungeon with a friend but were *one* level too high for any loot or anything.. It was still plenty challenging, we just didn't get any xp/loot/anything out of it. Would have loved to be able to drop our level down to the dungeon's level and do it proper. Use scaling both ways if yer gonna use it!
  • babylon
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    Really excited about Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild (with the justice system), but also adding player housing would make this game Elder Scrolls style feature complete.
  • Arsenic_Touch
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    One thing that's missing that needs to be added ASAP. Jewelcrafting.
    Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured?

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  • SintNicolaas
    I would like to add that this announcement is perfectly written. It shows you are very aware of what is happening, needed and most importantly for me; it seems you are very honest (non-commercial) about it. Next to that there is a lot of ambition showing. Because of this I am impressed and positive about the future of this game. Don't forget that we are a bunch of very demanding and spoiled users. It is what we became due to an already beautiful market. But that is obviously needless to say ;) Well done.
  • Ser Lobo
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    Great post. Sounds like someone was reading my mind, especially on spellcrafting and armor dyes. Loving the feedback!

    That said, you guys missed player housing.

    I'm being serious.

    For your next 'road ahead', please consider: lich and werebear transformations; Psyjiic Order, Morag Tong and Blades guilds (among many other possible regional guild options); better hunting/fishing subprofession (achievements, money making, trophy claiming, resource gathering); jewelry crafting; introducing spell scrolls; PvP and PvE Arena options for small scale, in-and-out combat; PvP Dueling (why should those wizards get all the fun); more pet-summoning options and control/viability.

    Thanks ahead of time!

    Ruze Aulus. Mayor of Dhalmora. Archer, hunter, assassin. Nightblade.
    Gral. Mountain Terror. Barbarian, marauder, murderer. Nightblade.
    Na'Djin. Knight-Blade. Knight, vanguard, defender. Nightblade.

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    Ruze is a veteran of the PC Beta, lived through the year one drought, survived the buy-to-play conversion, and has stepped foot in the hells known as Craglorn. He mained a nightlbade when nightblades weren't good, and has never worn a robe. He converted from PC during the console betas, and hasn't regretted it a moment since.

    He'd rank ESO:TU (in it's current state) a 4.8 out of 5, loving the game almost entirely.

    This is an multiplayer game. I should be able to log in, join a dungeon, join a battleground, queue for a dolmen or world boss or delve, teleport in, play for 20 minutes, and not worry about getting kicked, failing to join, having perfect voice coms, or being unable to complete content because someone's lagging behind. Group Finder and matchmaking is broken. Take a note from Destiny and build a system that allows from drop-in/drop-out functionality and quick play.
  • BBSooner
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    A lot of the replies to this thread are so disappointing: "Guess <Issue that only effects a portion of the member base> isn't being immediately addressed/Guess <feature that is solely important to my niche playstyle> isn't being added, ESO is clearly going to fail".

    I wish I could look forward to interacting with the player base, but people like this make the whole MMO community seem so ... idiotic.
  • Wolfborn
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    I have not got my email yet about the free 5 days ? I am a pre order and have been playing since early access, so i qualify. When will the email come out as my sub starts on the 4th.
  • Triskele12
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    Thank you for the additional free game time. Much appreciated!
    The upcoming implements sound awesome - can't wait. :)
  • lucablue
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    What about also HOUSING?
    It could be funny get some houses like different NPC into cities. Maybe in zone near cyrodill (outside pvp instances)...

    Also Guild Houses :) Where players can deposit diferent trophies found or taken form monsters around the world and missions.

    Houses visitable by permission that every user can set.

    And obviously there will be the payment of soil rent. (gold OR AP, so it's possible to pay the rent of soil both pve players and pvp only players :)

    I hope in something like this :)
  • Carde
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    Reymas wrote: »
    If it's optional and you can turn it off with a check box in interface options, why does it bother you?

    Oldest song sung in this game.
    Member of the Psijic Order PTS Group
  • OkieDokie
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    Pretty interesting stuff, I was waiting for the Dark Mother quests. However, fixing vampires and NB should be a priority in my opinion.
    People keep saying they heard of a friend of friend of friend of their neighbors that plays a NB and can catch up with dks and sorcs and this guy just never shows up. He would be a rock star if he existed.
  • ZalzanKavol
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    These updates sound awesome to me, and it says very good things about the developers that they really have been listening. Now I would like an option on the forums to disagree with posts rather than just various types of agreements.
  • plamillusionub17_ESO
    In the AuA on reddit they mentioned housing but that it's something they want done right, so no idea when.

    As to the rest, looking forward to it all! This one is very pleased :smile:
  • Rajani Isa
    So in order to receive the five free days that should be deserved to all that bought the game, people need to sign up for the re-occuring subscription....do you really care about how the players actually feel or just how much you can take from our wallets.

    Doesn't seem like a very smart idea to not extend this to everyone that bought the game and had to suffer...but I'm sure you will find a whole bunch of un-happy campers once you go through with this shameful compensation to only those who are paying you.

    The game was broken before launch and you made us all suffer not just those who continue to pay you for this extremely broken and frustrating game...to bad consumer affairs never get involved in this crooked industry.

    Are you really complaining that someone who doesn't want to sub doesn't get 5 free days?
    Where does it say you must be subbed? I see that you must have an "active account under the 30 days included gametime" - but that is everyone currently able to play.
  • Valthorian1914
    Bard skill line...
    Still needing love in that department
  • plenilune
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    Most companies would just shrug it off. It shows that Zenimax indeed cares about their customers. /resubbed
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