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Will you be cancelling your subscription because of the issue of inventory management?

  • unicorn1844
    No.
    Between the guild bank, my bank and inventory I can manage with what is available. This question is a bit on the lame side TBH. What will make me quit is the gold sellers and bots. Absolutely hate them! >:)
  • Brennan
    Brennan
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    No.
    Between the guild bank, my bank and inventory I can manage with what is available. This question is a bit on the lame side TBH. What will make me quit is the gold sellers and bots. Absolutely hate them! >:)

    The question was asked because it makes more sense than asking people to speculate on whether other people will quit because of the inventory.

    ed: As far as gold sellers and these little *** spamming in /z and my mail and the guild invites, ZOS needs to sit a GM in Auridon, and whatever the comparable areas for Covenant and Pact are, and just watch /z. When they see the spam just ban the account. You do that for a week and this'll start to clean up nicely.

    Edited by Brennan on 22 April 2014 11:13
  • KerinKor
    KerinKor
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    No.
    Brennan wrote: »
    Will you be cancelling your subscription because of the issue of inventory management?
    No, I'm an adult, I adapt. Yes, it'll mean I won't craft as much as I would normally do but stop playing due to a tight inventory?

    Really, are some people that pathetic?

  • Brennan
    Brennan
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    No.
    KerinKor wrote: »
    Brennan wrote: »
    Will you be cancelling your subscription because of the issue of inventory management?
    No, I'm an adult, I adapt. Yes, it'll mean I won't craft as much as I would normally do but stop playing due to a tight inventory?

    Really, are some people that pathetic?

    4-5% of them are. :)

  • KerinKor
    KerinKor
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    No.
    Nah, I believe about 0.01% of people who come to web forums screaming they'll cancel if their little pet annoyance isn't FIXED NOW. :)
  • fredarbonab14_ESO
    fredarbonab14_ESO
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    No.
    Another 'Drama' thread. If it not having enough space annoys you that much - QUIT and spares us the nonsense.
  • Brennan
    Brennan
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    No.
    KerinKor wrote: »
    Nah, I believe about 0.01% of people who come to web forums screaming they'll cancel if their little pet annoyance isn't FIXED NOW. :)
    Another 'Drama' thread. If it not having enough space annoys you that much - QUIT and spares us the nonsense.

    I agree.

    Also, if you're quitting, can I have your stuff? I've still got plenty of room for it.

    Edited by Brennan on 22 April 2014 12:10
  • ZoM_Head
    ZoM_Head
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    No.
    Inventory management? what inventory management? are you trying to do everything at the same time????
    mDKs still need a lot of love!
  • Qwickkill
    Qwickkill
    Yes.
    Yes I canceled my sub mostly because I think the game is boring as #@$%%$##. Second zone and i had to delete all my quests cant stand to do another quest in this game.
    Really makes me wonder how a awesome game like Vanguard cant survive but crap like this game keeps getting made and played.
  • knaveofengland
    knaveofengland
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    No.
    omg hard to see a poll like this if you played the series then you know this game will be a classic, I have been suspended but still here lost 40 bank solts just over 10k gold, cant get enough of the game. I think I will need to pull another sickie at work need more playing time.
  • RomedyMC
    RomedyMC
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    No.
    Beryl wrote: »
    RomedyMC wrote: »
    That said, would you care to make a short list of what is driving you away? I ahve no inetntion of arguing with you, although I cannot say the same for tohers ... I'm curious to see from someone elses perspective. =)

    (Sorry in advance for a lengthy response. I tried to be as short as I can, and after rereading I see a lot of things I forgot to mention.)

    I can, yes. And I will probably not return to this topic because I also have no intention to discuss tastes/opinions/preferences :) Everything below is my personal opinion and it does not have to represent a view of any larger group of players.

    1) No alternative quest way for leveling alts. I love alts and I do not see a way to enjoy my alt-hobby here. With my main I will visit all three alliances anyway and see all major quest lines - it is needed for the skill points. My alts in any alliance would have to follow through exactly same adventures and on the second play through they feel boring. I heard all those voices and jokes, I watched all the rituals, I want to skip them and questing turns into mindless running from one pointed to another. I don't have enough freedom in the order of my adventures as I have in Oblivion/Skyrim, I don't have enough simplicity in quests as I have in other MMOs.

    3) Some widely discussed store/AH and inventory issues. I would love to see at least some of the following: larger store (not necessarily server wide, but more than 500 people), not related to a guild store, search function in the store, a possibility to lock items to avoid accidental selling/deconstructing, personal bank for every character to keep memorable items (I would agree to reduce the bag size for that), more tabs in the inventory so that I don't have 100 names listed in the materials section (preferably customisable tabs).

    3) Lack of many quality of life features: preview of items, chat bubbles, cosmetic features (at least predictable colours of crafted items), default chat channels which keep /whisper in a separate tab (it is easy to make, but too many people miss personal tells because they are lost in /zone blabbering), a cooking book with recipes available even when you are far from a campfire, combat information (buffs, debuffs, who killed me, is my dot still ticking), information about last log on of my friend or guild member, and so on. I know that there are addons covering many of these features, but it is not good enough for me. I want to be sure that other players who don't use addons can see the same things as I do. After all, it is not a solo game which we are free to change as we wish. In Oblivion/Skyrim I was fine with so many addons, in an MMO - no.

    4) Trivial to level crafting. I have a feeling that soon enough everyone will be maxed in every craft except enchanting and a month later in enchanting as well. Some crafts look slow at the start and all the talks about "You have to team up with someone and exchange your products" make you think that a solo crafter can't succeed. However, when you get to level 40+ and spend a bit of time just deconstructing everything you find - you max all crafts before you can use the items you craft. And you can do that all on one character if you wish. This full freedom is not good for crafting economy.

    5) Combat and group mechanics. I like to play support roles such as crowd control or healing. The first one does not exist in ESO, the second one it too boring. I healed all non-veteran dungeons and some of the veteran ones. I am deeply disappointed by the facts that I can't select a target for my next heal and that I have only a small number of healing skills (as templar with resto-staff and two bars full of skills I still find it boring and not various enough).

    6) Characters and aesthetics. Armour looks like tattoos on your body, heavy armour moves up and down when you talk, there is no volume or thickness in any material. Since I have to stare at my character so much, I can't ignore these details and they irritate me after some time.

    I know you said you would not return to the topic, but I echo Brennan's comments. This is easily the most honest and thoughtful critique I have seen here and sorely hope a forum mod will pass your thoughts along to the development team, as fixing even a quarter of what you mentioned will result in a better game for all of us.

    I wanted to make sure I said Thank You. I appreciate your words. =)

  • Eris
    Eris
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    No.
    Qwickkill wrote: »
    Yes I canceled my sub mostly because I think the game is boring as #@$%%$##. Second zone and i had to delete all my quests cant stand to do another quest in this game.
    Really makes me wonder how a awesome game like Vanguard cant survive but crap like this game keeps getting made and played.

    Then you should have answered no, not yes, because the reason you cancelled has nothing to do with inventory. Perhaps a few more seconds to read the poll would have been in order.
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  • GLaDOS
    GLaDOS
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    No.
    @RomedyMC +1 Hopefully she peeks back in here and sees that many of us are appreciative of honest mature feedback. Thanks @Beryl! I found what you said to be very insightful and I hope things improve enough for you to wanna stick around. :)
    Still alive.
  • Torasi
    Torasi
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    No.
    I haven't seen a more clear cut poll than this one :lol:
    "Only the proud and mighty dare to follow the ways of Talos"
  • Brennan
    Brennan
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    No.
    Qwickkill wrote: »
    Yes I canceled my sub mostly because I think the game is boring as #@$%%$##. Second zone and i had to delete all my quests cant stand to do another quest in this game.
    Really makes me wonder how a awesome game like Vanguard cant survive but crap like this game keeps getting made and played.

    Can I have your stuff?

  • aldlv13
    aldlv13
    No.
    how about instead of crying about it learn to manager your space better i have 0 alts and no issues with space
    "Altmer. They act all high and mighty until you leave them in a pool of their own blood." -Blademaster Owyn
  • sweetfingrandir
    No.
    I think inventory space is a minor frustration in game, it's certainly not a game breaker. I have a couple of alts I am not levelling yet and I use them to take stuff like the treasure maps etc. Buying extra inventory bags, more bank space, horse carrying capacity, plus enabled to use even more crafting mats as I progress, so it is becoming less of an issue as I craft stuff and sell what I don't intend to use etc.
    Exploring the wonderful word of ESO.
  • Ventroff
    Ventroff
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    No.
    Not for inventory management even though it is terrible I can live with it until they fix it.

    I will be cancelling my subscription based on the unplayable lag in pvp though.
  • Cascade_V
    Cascade_V
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    Yes.
    I actually canceled over Easter weekend specifically because of storage.
    I simply got tired of logging in, playing for 30 minutes and then spending at least another 30 minutes logging multiple toons in and out trying to balance limited space.
    I have one toon who has 50 spaces of just runes.
    I like the game, the story is fair. I like the graphics. I like grinding in some spots; it's good xp, decent drops...passes the time nicely.
    This is the first MMO I've dumped after just the initial 30 days.
    I may stop back in a few months and check to see if it has been addressed...it looks like only 5-10% really are seriously concerned with this issue which I'm sure this early the devs have other concerns.
    Brennan wrote: »
    Sure I'm an ass.
  • moonsugar66
    moonsugar66
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    No.
    No! I love doing the inventory shuffle.

    PARTY ROCK IS IN THE HOUSE, YO!
  • Brennan
    Brennan
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    No.
    Cascade_V wrote: »
    I actually canceled over Easter weekend specifically because of storage.
    I simply got tired of logging in, playing for 30 minutes and then spending at least another 30 minutes logging multiple toons in and out trying to balance limited space.
    I have one toon who has 50 spaces of just runes.
    I like the game, the story is fair. I like the graphics. I like grinding in some spots; it's good xp, decent drops...passes the time nicely.
    This is the first MMO I've dumped after just the initial 30 days.
    I may stop back in a few months and check to see if it has been addressed...it looks like only 5-10% really are seriously concerned with this issue which I'm sure this early the devs have other concerns.
    Brennan wrote: »
    Sure I'm an ass.

    Can I have your stuff?

  • Animal_Mother
    Animal_Mother
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    No.
    Cascade_V wrote: »
    I actually canceled over Easter weekend specifically because of storage.
    I simply got tired of logging in, playing for 30 minutes and then spending at least another 30 minutes logging multiple toons in and out trying to balance limited space.
    I have one toon who has 50 spaces of just runes.
    I like the game, the story is fair. I like the graphics. I like grinding in some spots; it's good xp, decent drops...passes the time nicely.
    This is the first MMO I've dumped after just the initial 30 days.
    I may stop back in a few months and check to see if it has been addressed...it looks like only 5-10% really are seriously concerned with this issue which I'm sure this early the devs have other concerns.
    Brennan wrote: »
    Sure I'm an ass.


    CRAFT THINGS.. then you don't have to worry about inventory.
  • LadyInTheWater
    LadyInTheWater
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    No.
    Qwickkill wrote: »
    Yes I canceled my sub mostly because I think the game is boring as #@$%%$##. Second zone and i had to delete all my quests cant stand to do another quest in this game.
    Really makes me wonder how a awesome game like Vanguard cant survive but crap like this game keeps getting made and played.

    Vanguard couldn't survive because Brad couldn't stop popping pills. Then SOE stepped in, and we all know that always makes things better...
    The moment you call someone stupid, or try to display your opinion as "fact", you lose all credibility.
  • temjiu
    temjiu
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    No.
    Is Bethesda actually putting these polls up? or is this some weird attempt by the OP to make their concern look far bigger then it really is?

    some of these polls are sad...really sad...

    EDIT: After reading Beryl's reasons, I can appreciate those. I feel the Poll was off-base...this probably should have been more of a thread discussing your concerns and why you are quitting, but I can understand your reasons.

    The reason the poll specifically states isn't one that I'd quit over. WAtching Bethesda over the last few weeks, they are acting on things to correct them, so I will give them more time to see if and when they can start digging into these QoL issues once they get past the mounds of bugs inherent in the group environments and the quest lines.

    MMO's are by their nature slow to mature. I've found that if i give them 2-4 months things start to smooth out and get better. My last "favorite" MMO took close to 4 months before they got a big patch out to fix most the serious problems, and another few months of smaller patches.

    Ill give ESO the same as I'm enjoying everything else it has so far. But we'll see...unfortunately, they have set their own bar for performance pretty high. Paying subs expect certain things from a game that many f2p do not.
    Edited by temjiu on 23 April 2014 18:40
  • Silverbird
    Silverbird
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    No.
    My top 3 for unsubscribing atm would be:
    - duping
    - farm bots
    - pvp-vampire exploits (Reducing ultimate costs down to 4/0 for emperors or former emperors and killing whole zergs with spamming bat swarms.)
  • RomedyMC
    RomedyMC
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    No.
    Cascade_V wrote: »
    I have one toon who has 50 spaces of just runes.

    Can I have these? I even promise to not dump them on an alt. I'll keep them in my shared bank space with my own 50 runes. They can all be buddies. Maybe even lovers...

    Seriously though, can I have your stuff? Brennan is already rich. I am poor.

  • SeñorCinco
    SeñorCinco
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    Yes.
    Yes.

    Because of the bots and camp farmers I can't fill my inventory to manage it. :#
    Edited by SeñorCinco on 23 April 2014 18:48
    Words contained in posts, at which point I stop reading and will not respond...
    Toon / Mana / WoW or any acronym following "In ___" /
    Pets (when referring to summoned Daedra) / Any verbiage to express slang (ie, ending in uz,az,..) / Soul Stone
    ... to be continued.

    Now, get off my lawn.

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