RIP Ravenwatch.

RaikaNA

ADawg wrote: »

Udrath wrote: »

Every time I log on NA no-cp is still dead.

hmmm so weird considering they added procs back, which was supposed to "revive the population" on the argument that No Proc was killing the population.

Make it make sense!

All it did was revive the EP/DC population... Go check out the scorebook for the evidence.. Since the proc sets were brought back into the campaign... It did not bring back AD players at all.

gotdank wrote: »

M1SHAAN wrote: »

I don't think Alliance lock would do anything, since people switching sides isn't the issue.

Faction hopping is literally a problem...just look at the Ravenwatch leaderboards. Each faction has the same people on the leaderboards for each faction.

Not to mention faction hopping encourages people to hop on the winning faction making the campaign even more unstable in population.

M1SHAAN

gotdank wrote: »

Faction hopping is literally a problem...just look at the Ravenwatch leaderboards. Each faction has the same people on the leaderboards for each faction.

On PC-NA I don't see any overlap in the top 10 for each faction (I'd list them but I'm pretty sure that's against forum rules). I haven't been very active this month's campaign, but in previous campaigns I was aware of a few people I saw playing on different factions, including myself. Of those people, there was exactly one (widely disliked) person who placed high on the leaderboards on multiple alliances who was a sore loser and would loudly announce they were switching factions because the current faction wasn't doing well. They ended up banned for reasons I am not privy to, came back with a different account for awhile, and have been quiet for a few months, either banned again or they haven't been playing.

I doubt anybody cares, but for myself:

• I try not to play different factions within the same day
• I don't usually play on the top faction unless I'm doing an event with my social guild. I made a DC necro healer awhile ago and haven't had a chance to refine her build due to this
• I've been leaning EP the past few campaigns because the stamsorc I made for No-CP AD pvp sucks (skill issue, sorry Maharr'ja)

I know I'm not the most no-life ravenwatch pvper especially this past campaign, so I may have missed something, but I just haven't seen faction swappers being a significant problem except for that one guy.

RaikaNA

As of right now....

The only active faction that's in Ravenwatch right now is DC... AD had both trikeeps last night right before I signed off, and DC took it back.




Ravenwatch became the new Icereach... It's sad too because Ravenwatch was great for people who wanted to play casually... never had to worry about getting disadvantaged of because the sets that were allowed were mostly available. It didn't take a rocket scientist to theory-craft a build either.. it was quite simplified.

shadyjane62

It's not the no proc thing, it's the no cp thing.

ADawg

shadyjane62 wrote: »

It's not the no proc thing, it's the no cp thing.

Why is there no CP in battlegrounds then?

Answer that, then explain why the "main" Cyrodiil campaign has CP.

CP is a PVE power creep mechanic to make trial groups do the PVE things faster. It also makes the neckbeard thick and the sweat intensify.
total combined
A player hopping in a field with 20 somewhat competent PVPers alpha striking them and doing basically 20% total combined damage is broken!

OtarTheMad

I think we are all just stuck in a habit. We all flock to the campaign that is locked because it’s guaranteed fights, and sit in a Que for 30+ minutes and watch Netflix when we could just cancel it and get people into other campaigns.

When ZOS made the alliance lock and standard campaign they didn’t hold a gun to anyone’s head and force them to pick Grey Host again. In fact I think everyone was reset so we chose to go back.

RaikaNA

shadyjane62 wrote: »

It's not the no proc thing, it's the no cp thing.

I find it hard to believe that not having CP enabled is causing Ravenwatch to die.

Iriidius

gotdank wrote: »

CaperGuy wrote: »

They could do this, and I’d be okay with it but I don’t think it would affect the population much.

It would...because currently people just hop over to whatever faction is winning...dominate the map, make everyone else on the opposing factions log off, then they control the map for 12 hours and no one can fight back. If there was no faction hopping, people would have to fight for the faction they are on when they login, not the faction that is winning at the current time. It may not be the SOLE reason for all of the problems, but it is a HUGE issue that add's onto the problem.

Faction lock is not making players play in an empty campaign with no players where it does not even matter if they are locket or not. If they cant change to other faction when theirs is loosing players will probably just play other campaign as Ravenwatch is unimportant anyway.
I did not change to a campaign with faction lock despite playing only for one faction since its introduction.
Very often one faction controls map most of the day and other factions control map much rarer if at all, players fighting for the winning faction spend most if not all of the time on this faction anyway and would just stay there all the time with faction lock.

gotdank wrote: »

M1SHAAN wrote: »

I don't think Alliance lock would do anything, since people switching sides isn't the issue.

Faction hopping is literally a problem...just look at the Ravenwatch leaderboards. Each faction has the same people on the leaderboards for each faction.

While there are a few faction hoppers they are definitely not dominating the leaderboards because they split their ap between different characters on different factions gaining less ap per character than if they would play just one and there are stillplayers playing (on 1char) for one faction gaining more ap. If you have enaugh ap to get in top10 of multiple alliances than you probably have enaugh ap to get emperor which is a better reward. I definitely not see same people dominating leaderboards on different factions.