ZOS, Massive Spike in Ping/LAG in Recent Days - What Gives?

LadyGP

blktauna wrote: »

I don't use Bandits and have never used it, yet..

Same.

JaxontheUnfortunate

Same I have never run bandits either.

I have also noticed then when buying crowns through a third party storefront like epic/steam they are taking considerably longer to be reflected on the account than previous purchases, though this only started this week that I have noticed it. (Usually it would update within 30 seconds, now its taking 10-15 minutes.)

sshogrin

KaironBlackbard wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

KaironBlackbard wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

tincanman wrote: »

@KaironBlackbard - add-ons and associated api are clearly NOT the issue as console players who have zero access to either are experiencing the same disconnect and other performance issues.

Your observed performance improvement on a 1-time basis with this add-on and others use of it, which has not been significantly replicated by other pc gamers and CANNOT be experienced by CONSOLE users, is likely to be entirely coincidental and have zilch to do with the add-on. Your conclusion, methinks, is likely to just be a false correlation (...does not equal causation....).

Great that you are having a better experience of the game, though.

BOTH can be true at the same time.

The server IS clearly struggling on its own BUT ALSO shoddily-made and/or incompatible and/or out-of-date add-ons can cause additional performance problems.

Add-ons that are constantly polling in the background and making calls to the API like, quite obviously, cannot be helpful for anyone's performance.

Doesn't change the fact that console, with no addons and no infrastructure for them, are having the exact same issues.

People need to stop using their disdain or dislike for addons as a reason to constantly label it as a problem even in cases where they obviously aren't.

PC was made with the idea of addons in mind. It was designed for them. When addons behave in ways that are detrimental, the API gets changed to help counter it. MM and/or another trader addon idr the name of used to bombard the servers with info requests, so they slowed down how often those requests could be made. So other people using addons also don't create an issue for people who don't because if that was happening again, the API would be changed to either block the functionality of those problematic addons, or would be changed so that those addons were slowed.

And I'm pretty sure we'd have been told already if addons were the main issue since that's probably the first and easiest thing for them to look at and rule out.

@KaironBlackbard
So how many times have other people using Bandits' given you issues? If you're saying that one instance of someone else disabling an addon giving you increased performance means that addon is 100% an issue and somehow regularly causing players not using it to have issues...even if one or two other people claim the same thing, that doesn't mean anything.

If you want to prove what you think is a problematic addon, you need to have a much larger sample size that a couple of people saying they've experienced the same thing. Because out of thousands of people playing, a couple of people experiencing the same thing can very easily be chalked up to chance.

Lately, unless Centurylink is having its own issues, I have pristine connectivity to ESO. However, sometimes when I'm grouped with people, my connection can stutter or falter.
That specific instance was pristine time, and when he joined mine effectively died, and that auto ping was annoying.
When the auto ping went away, so did my problems.
The one he disabled was Bandits UI.

And if both PC and Console Virtual Servers are hosted on the SAME HARDWARE, PC addon problems can likewise cause issues on the console side due to hardware being overloaded. Even though the virtual servers don't interact, the problems can be caused by being on the same hardware.

I do randomly receive issues in towns. The last town to really give me problems was Vivec City. I mostly aim for less populated areas, like Private Dungeon runs (enter via manual entrance or wayshrine instead of dungeon finder), or less used places like Hews Bane or Shadowfen. I rarely see more than 5 people total. When I see 10+, I have issues.

Late because I've been busy irl.

The servers for console are completely separate from the ones for PC. They all have separate hardware (PC from XBox from PS). It's one reason we don't have cross-platform play, along with others.

And again...one cannot say X is the cause of Y with one one anecdotal instance. Correlation is not causation. Your internet likely isn't the problem, considering how many people are having it. But it's not people you're grouped with causing the issue either, nor their addons. If you've only ever had ONE instance of someone disabling any given addon giving you a performance boost, it's because the issue we're all having cleared up at around that moment for a while.

Addons are NOT contributing to this issue. If Bandits was causing a problem we'd know already. If any given addon was causing the issue we'd know. First of all because console wouldn't also be swamped by the lag and disconnects and being unable to log in. Second, because addons are probably one of the things the devs look at first (or rather the API). Third, we aren't having a bunch of people having with these issues saying they all have a common thread in one or two addons. I think at most I've seen two people mention Bandits, but out of the number that have posted...that's not enough people having that in common for it to be a problem.

Yesterday, My brother did a trial and 5 of them were running bandits. Most of them had to disable it for him to quit getting booted.

And yes, I've had some other run ins with bandits UI users as well. I mostly try to run with guildies to avoid that though.

And, if I see that auto ping, I know they are using Bandits UI. I don't know what it is that is causing Bandits to auto ping, but it is very annoying and kills my connection.

KaironBlackbard wrote: »

He could only type 6 words before getting re-booted
So when he asked if any were using Bandits UI...
The next time he logged in he wasn't booted as fast because some of them disabled it.
Once enough disabled it, he was able to run with them again.

I've run with groups running Bandits UI and ran with groups not running it at all, there for a while I was having all types of issues with groups that weren't running it at all. I haven't had any real issues in a week or 2.

One thing I will say, if you're on PC, get rid of Slip's Sanity's Edge Assist, I'm talking delete it from your addons folder, that causes all these issues. As soon as I deleted from my folder, I've had absolutely no issues, maybe a frame freeze every now and then, but that's it. Even not having it active, but having it in your addons folder will cause major issues.

manukartofanu

sshogrin wrote: »

KaironBlackbard wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

KaironBlackbard wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

tincanman wrote: »

@KaironBlackbard - add-ons and associated api are clearly NOT the issue as console players who have zero access to either are experiencing the same disconnect and other performance issues.

Your observed performance improvement on a 1-time basis with this add-on and others use of it, which has not been significantly replicated by other pc gamers and CANNOT be experienced by CONSOLE users, is likely to be entirely coincidental and have zilch to do with the add-on. Your conclusion, methinks, is likely to just be a false correlation (...does not equal causation....).

Great that you are having a better experience of the game, though.

BOTH can be true at the same time.

The server IS clearly struggling on its own BUT ALSO shoddily-made and/or incompatible and/or out-of-date add-ons can cause additional performance problems.

Add-ons that are constantly polling in the background and making calls to the API like, quite obviously, cannot be helpful for anyone's performance.

Doesn't change the fact that console, with no addons and no infrastructure for them, are having the exact same issues.

People need to stop using their disdain or dislike for addons as a reason to constantly label it as a problem even in cases where they obviously aren't.

PC was made with the idea of addons in mind. It was designed for them. When addons behave in ways that are detrimental, the API gets changed to help counter it. MM and/or another trader addon idr the name of used to bombard the servers with info requests, so they slowed down how often those requests could be made. So other people using addons also don't create an issue for people who don't because if that was happening again, the API would be changed to either block the functionality of those problematic addons, or would be changed so that those addons were slowed.

And I'm pretty sure we'd have been told already if addons were the main issue since that's probably the first and easiest thing for them to look at and rule out.

@KaironBlackbard
So how many times have other people using Bandits' given you issues? If you're saying that one instance of someone else disabling an addon giving you increased performance means that addon is 100% an issue and somehow regularly causing players not using it to have issues...even if one or two other people claim the same thing, that doesn't mean anything.

If you want to prove what you think is a problematic addon, you need to have a much larger sample size that a couple of people saying they've experienced the same thing. Because out of thousands of people playing, a couple of people experiencing the same thing can very easily be chalked up to chance.

Lately, unless Centurylink is having its own issues, I have pristine connectivity to ESO. However, sometimes when I'm grouped with people, my connection can stutter or falter.
That specific instance was pristine time, and when he joined mine effectively died, and that auto ping was annoying.
When the auto ping went away, so did my problems.
The one he disabled was Bandits UI.

And if both PC and Console Virtual Servers are hosted on the SAME HARDWARE, PC addon problems can likewise cause issues on the console side due to hardware being overloaded. Even though the virtual servers don't interact, the problems can be caused by being on the same hardware.

I do randomly receive issues in towns. The last town to really give me problems was Vivec City. I mostly aim for less populated areas, like Private Dungeon runs (enter via manual entrance or wayshrine instead of dungeon finder), or less used places like Hews Bane or Shadowfen. I rarely see more than 5 people total. When I see 10+, I have issues.

Late because I've been busy irl.

The servers for console are completely separate from the ones for PC. They all have separate hardware (PC from XBox from PS). It's one reason we don't have cross-platform play, along with others.

And again...one cannot say X is the cause of Y with one one anecdotal instance. Correlation is not causation. Your internet likely isn't the problem, considering how many people are having it. But it's not people you're grouped with causing the issue either, nor their addons. If you've only ever had ONE instance of someone disabling any given addon giving you a performance boost, it's because the issue we're all having cleared up at around that moment for a while.

Addons are NOT contributing to this issue. If Bandits was causing a problem we'd know already. If any given addon was causing the issue we'd know. First of all because console wouldn't also be swamped by the lag and disconnects and being unable to log in. Second, because addons are probably one of the things the devs look at first (or rather the API). Third, we aren't having a bunch of people having with these issues saying they all have a common thread in one or two addons. I think at most I've seen two people mention Bandits, but out of the number that have posted...that's not enough people having that in common for it to be a problem.

Yesterday, My brother did a trial and 5 of them were running bandits. Most of them had to disable it for him to quit getting booted.

And yes, I've had some other run ins with bandits UI users as well. I mostly try to run with guildies to avoid that though.

And, if I see that auto ping, I know they are using Bandits UI. I don't know what it is that is causing Bandits to auto ping, but it is very annoying and kills my connection.

KaironBlackbard wrote: »

He could only type 6 words before getting re-booted
So when he asked if any were using Bandits UI...
The next time he logged in he wasn't booted as fast because some of them disabled it.
Once enough disabled it, he was able to run with them again.

I've run with groups running Bandits UI and ran with groups not running it at all, there for a while I was having all types of issues with groups that weren't running it at all. I haven't had any real issues in a week or 2.

One thing I will say, if you're on PC, get rid of Slip's Sanity's Edge Assist, I'm talking delete it from your addons folder, that causes all these issues. As soon as I deleted from my folder, I've had absolutely no issues, maybe a frame freeze every now and then, but that's it. Even not having it active, but having it in your addons folder will cause major issues.

I hear about Slip's Sanity's Edge Assist the first time, never had it. And still have the same issues. By the way, they started appearing about a month ago. Before that, I played for 2-3 months without any issues, with very rare crashes caused by well-known problems (like loading into a dungeon). Before that, there were these random crashes for any reason, which, in turn, started with the spring update when someone messed up the configs, and the PTS database ended up on live. Interestingly, the problems came and went "on their own" with some updates.

During all this time, I didn’t install or remove a single addon, except for Bandits, which I removed around June, as I got tired of waiting for functional fixes. Removing them didn’t affect the crashes in any way.

I’ve been running dungeons, trials, and anything else, often with random groups, both when I experienced crashes and when I didn’t. It’s very unlikely that during the Lucent farming period, when I had no problems and was playing with completely random people who might have had entirely different addons, I had no issues because all of them lacked some specific addon. And now, when I’m not even in a group, I crash in the overland because someone, somewhere, started running some addon in the same zone?

Quackery

Yeah, I'm done with PC. It's utterly unplayable; I also don't have any of the addons that people have been mentioning in earlier posts. The game is simply broken for me on PC. It's not as bad on Xbox, but I'm just about done with ESO.

Just_Attivi

HAPPY 7 MONTHS OF UNPLAYABLE PERFORMANCE!!!! *Vuvuzela Sounds!*

Thought I'd check in, as I saw gold road was on sale and thought.... maybe theyve resolved some issues.... before I spend my money lets see...

-log in
-load into town
-crazy ping, but it clears up after a few seconds
-cant interact with anything, skills wont fire. though I can run around and see others running around
-time warps around me with speed ups
-"An Error has occurred, please just stop trying to play this game"

Playtime before crash- about 4 minutes.

So... nothing has changed. Just a few more Dev posts of 'Oh we are totally aware of this, and like, if you could just maybe keep paying your subs while you literally cant play while we talk about maybe resolving this 2 years from now, that would be great" ... maybe that wasn't their exact words. but seriously, this is sad. 7 months and not even a broad, nonspecific post about it. not even a banner. nothing. just let people dig through 80+ pages here while we feed them generic help copy/pastes and delete posts trying to actually be useful (some of which, definitely werent this threads original issue, but the posts were closed anyway and directed to this one, as if this thread is now just a catch all of complaints for easier avoidance of the issue).

Save your money.

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I'll go ahead and remind people that these issues:

-started being widespread in May (there were numerous issues before this that could be related, but it seemed more isolated)
-issues affect all walks of the game (Trials, dungeons, PVP, flower picking, literally walking)
-issues seem to be potentially across multiple platforms (but I am only on PC NA so I cannot confirm that)
-Barring internet connections from like, the moon, your internet isnt the problem. People from the same town as the datacenter, and people across the country from it, are having similar issues. I had fewer issues living in WI than I do now in TN, and Ive tested from a second device with a connection from the datacenter I work in, same issues.
-Barring whatever is up with bandits and sanitys edge addons (i never used those and have barely been able to play for 7 months, but ive seen them mentioned a lot so maybe thats another thing) your addons arent the issue.
-Your computer is probably fine if it handles other applications of equal or greater req's. That said, do your due diligence, update drivers, repair files, try launching without any addons, check your bios blah blah blah
-Your firewall probably isnt the issue, but if it makes you feel better disable it and see your input delay not change at all.
-Unless youre loading ridiculous stuff and on old hardware, running discord in the background likely isnt your issue
-Closing youtube/any platforms that stream or deliver ads while youre playing may improve performance in general, but likely will not impact this issue.

I'm sure theres other things that can be summarized here, but in short, for the original issues of this thread, nothing done client side will resolve it. It is something server side/network side/strange ZoS Magic, so don't go nuts trying to troubleshoot beyond whats reasonable. Many people have been directed here that had different issues that some standard troubleshooting/file repairs might fix, but please recognize that the many voices here for 7 months have done all that and more, and i promise you, turning it off and on again isnt fixing it. (again, closing threads with basically any 'lag' related problem and directing people here is a poor call, but hey, Im not your boss).

Maybe I'll check in in another month, for the traditional monthly announcement at this point, or maybe not. ESO is mostly not even a thought for me these days.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

A few days ago things were fine, some rubber banding but things were playable, Now I cannot even stay logged in for more than a few minutes at a time, does not matter where I am or what I am doing, even when I am in my player home standing still by myself it will happen.

I log in, after a minute or so I cannot use any skills than I get random errors when trying to log back in.

I do not use addons, this is not a client-side problem, I cannot do endeavors, I cannot do anything.

LalMirchi

A shovel load of crashes today. Four after restarting all devices, router > switch > computer.

It was all working smoothly last night and I started up today with add-ons switched off after the first crash. All subsequent attempts to start the game were also with add-ons switched off.

On the last restart of the ESO game something worked, wonder what?

manukartofanu

PC EU, played fine all morning. An hour ago, severe lag started, and there have been several crashes over the past hour.

blktauna

yesterday on PCEU and PCNA crashes every 10 mins or so. just unacceptable.

BasP

I play on PC-EU and while my game generally runs fine (aside from the occasional 999+ ping spike), it has gotten worse since the day before yesterday.

That day the game froze three times for ~30 seconds or so in the first two Arcs of IA, and I was thrown back to the lobby afterwards twice (which I can't remember ever happening before). Needless to say I stopped that run, considering it had already cost two threads and playing the game when it runs that badly just isn't fun.

So yesterday I thought I'd do VMA, after resetting my router, but the same thing happened in the fourth round. I quit that run as well, figuring I'd probably get disconnected again if I continued.

And today I was doing Lair of Maarselok solo and during the fourth boss the freezing followed by being disconnected happened again. When I logged in again I could finish the Dungeon without any further lag or disconnects, but still, at this point I'm almost starting to dread doing another Dungeon/ Arena/ IA run.

Arunei

KaironBlackbard wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

KaironBlackbard wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

tincanman wrote: »

@KaironBlackbard - add-ons and associated api are clearly NOT the issue as console players who have zero access to either are experiencing the same disconnect and other performance issues.

Your observed performance improvement on a 1-time basis with this add-on and others use of it, which has not been significantly replicated by other pc gamers and CANNOT be experienced by CONSOLE users, is likely to be entirely coincidental and have zilch to do with the add-on. Your conclusion, methinks, is likely to just be a false correlation (...does not equal causation....).

Great that you are having a better experience of the game, though.

BOTH can be true at the same time.

The server IS clearly struggling on its own BUT ALSO shoddily-made and/or incompatible and/or out-of-date add-ons can cause additional performance problems.

Add-ons that are constantly polling in the background and making calls to the API like, quite obviously, cannot be helpful for anyone's performance.

Doesn't change the fact that console, with no addons and no infrastructure for them, are having the exact same issues.

People need to stop using their disdain or dislike for addons as a reason to constantly label it as a problem even in cases where they obviously aren't.

PC was made with the idea of addons in mind. It was designed for them. When addons behave in ways that are detrimental, the API gets changed to help counter it. MM and/or another trader addon idr the name of used to bombard the servers with info requests, so they slowed down how often those requests could be made. So other people using addons also don't create an issue for people who don't because if that was happening again, the API would be changed to either block the functionality of those problematic addons, or would be changed so that those addons were slowed.

And I'm pretty sure we'd have been told already if addons were the main issue since that's probably the first and easiest thing for them to look at and rule out.

@KaironBlackbard
So how many times have other people using Bandits' given you issues? If you're saying that one instance of someone else disabling an addon giving you increased performance means that addon is 100% an issue and somehow regularly causing players not using it to have issues...even if one or two other people claim the same thing, that doesn't mean anything.

If you want to prove what you think is a problematic addon, you need to have a much larger sample size that a couple of people saying they've experienced the same thing. Because out of thousands of people playing, a couple of people experiencing the same thing can very easily be chalked up to chance.

Lately, unless Centurylink is having its own issues, I have pristine connectivity to ESO. However, sometimes when I'm grouped with people, my connection can stutter or falter.
That specific instance was pristine time, and when he joined mine effectively died, and that auto ping was annoying.
When the auto ping went away, so did my problems.
The one he disabled was Bandits UI.

And if both PC and Console Virtual Servers are hosted on the SAME HARDWARE, PC addon problems can likewise cause issues on the console side due to hardware being overloaded. Even though the virtual servers don't interact, the problems can be caused by being on the same hardware.

I do randomly receive issues in towns. The last town to really give me problems was Vivec City. I mostly aim for less populated areas, like Private Dungeon runs (enter via manual entrance or wayshrine instead of dungeon finder), or less used places like Hews Bane or Shadowfen. I rarely see more than 5 people total. When I see 10+, I have issues.

Late because I've been busy irl.

The servers for console are completely separate from the ones for PC. They all have separate hardware (PC from XBox from PS). It's one reason we don't have cross-platform play, along with others.

And again...one cannot say X is the cause of Y with one one anecdotal instance. Correlation is not causation. Your internet likely isn't the problem, considering how many people are having it. But it's not people you're grouped with causing the issue either, nor their addons. If you've only ever had ONE instance of someone disabling any given addon giving you a performance boost, it's because the issue we're all having cleared up at around that moment for a while.

Addons are NOT contributing to this issue. If Bandits was causing a problem we'd know already. If any given addon was causing the issue we'd know. First of all because console wouldn't also be swamped by the lag and disconnects and being unable to log in. Second, because addons are probably one of the things the devs look at first (or rather the API). Third, we aren't having a bunch of people having with these issues saying they all have a common thread in one or two addons. I think at most I've seen two people mention Bandits, but out of the number that have posted...that's not enough people having that in common for it to be a problem.

Yesterday, My brother did a trial and 5 of them were running bandits. Most of them had to disable it for him to quit getting booted.

And yes, I've had some other run ins with bandits UI users as well. I mostly try to run with guildies to avoid that though.

And, if I see that auto ping, I know they are using Bandits UI. I don't know what it is that is causing Bandits to auto ping, but it is very annoying and kills my connection.

To me that largely still sounds like an issue that's being made worse by these problems, not something itself contributing. Too many people who can't or don't run addons in general, let alone Bandits itself, are having these issues for a specific addon to be exacerbating them.

If you really think that specific one IS making issues worse, you'd probably want to make a new thread about it. See if you can find out via a specific thread how many people are having issues with that specific addon. The title of this one might not catch the attention of Bandits users, but a title of a thread mentioning it specifically would.

sshogrin wrote: »

KaironBlackbard wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

KaironBlackbard wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

tincanman wrote: »

@KaironBlackbard - add-ons and associated api are clearly NOT the issue as console players who have zero access to either are experiencing the same disconnect and other performance issues.

Your observed performance improvement on a 1-time basis with this add-on and others use of it, which has not been significantly replicated by other pc gamers and CANNOT be experienced by CONSOLE users, is likely to be entirely coincidental and have zilch to do with the add-on. Your conclusion, methinks, is likely to just be a false correlation (...does not equal causation....).

Great that you are having a better experience of the game, though.

BOTH can be true at the same time.

The server IS clearly struggling on its own BUT ALSO shoddily-made and/or incompatible and/or out-of-date add-ons can cause additional performance problems.

Add-ons that are constantly polling in the background and making calls to the API like, quite obviously, cannot be helpful for anyone's performance.

Doesn't change the fact that console, with no addons and no infrastructure for them, are having the exact same issues.

People need to stop using their disdain or dislike for addons as a reason to constantly label it as a problem even in cases where they obviously aren't.

PC was made with the idea of addons in mind. It was designed for them. When addons behave in ways that are detrimental, the API gets changed to help counter it. MM and/or another trader addon idr the name of used to bombard the servers with info requests, so they slowed down how often those requests could be made. So other people using addons also don't create an issue for people who don't because if that was happening again, the API would be changed to either block the functionality of those problematic addons, or would be changed so that those addons were slowed.

And I'm pretty sure we'd have been told already if addons were the main issue since that's probably the first and easiest thing for them to look at and rule out.

@KaironBlackbard
So how many times have other people using Bandits' given you issues? If you're saying that one instance of someone else disabling an addon giving you increased performance means that addon is 100% an issue and somehow regularly causing players not using it to have issues...even if one or two other people claim the same thing, that doesn't mean anything.

If you want to prove what you think is a problematic addon, you need to have a much larger sample size that a couple of people saying they've experienced the same thing. Because out of thousands of people playing, a couple of people experiencing the same thing can very easily be chalked up to chance.

Lately, unless Centurylink is having its own issues, I have pristine connectivity to ESO. However, sometimes when I'm grouped with people, my connection can stutter or falter.
That specific instance was pristine time, and when he joined mine effectively died, and that auto ping was annoying.
When the auto ping went away, so did my problems.
The one he disabled was Bandits UI.

And if both PC and Console Virtual Servers are hosted on the SAME HARDWARE, PC addon problems can likewise cause issues on the console side due to hardware being overloaded. Even though the virtual servers don't interact, the problems can be caused by being on the same hardware.

I do randomly receive issues in towns. The last town to really give me problems was Vivec City. I mostly aim for less populated areas, like Private Dungeon runs (enter via manual entrance or wayshrine instead of dungeon finder), or less used places like Hews Bane or Shadowfen. I rarely see more than 5 people total. When I see 10+, I have issues.

Late because I've been busy irl.

The servers for console are completely separate from the ones for PC. They all have separate hardware (PC from XBox from PS). It's one reason we don't have cross-platform play, along with others.

And again...one cannot say X is the cause of Y with one one anecdotal instance. Correlation is not causation. Your internet likely isn't the problem, considering how many people are having it. But it's not people you're grouped with causing the issue either, nor their addons. If you've only ever had ONE instance of someone disabling any given addon giving you a performance boost, it's because the issue we're all having cleared up at around that moment for a while.

Addons are NOT contributing to this issue. If Bandits was causing a problem we'd know already. If any given addon was causing the issue we'd know. First of all because console wouldn't also be swamped by the lag and disconnects and being unable to log in. Second, because addons are probably one of the things the devs look at first (or rather the API). Third, we aren't having a bunch of people having with these issues saying they all have a common thread in one or two addons. I think at most I've seen two people mention Bandits, but out of the number that have posted...that's not enough people having that in common for it to be a problem.

Yesterday, My brother did a trial and 5 of them were running bandits. Most of them had to disable it for him to quit getting booted.

And yes, I've had some other run ins with bandits UI users as well. I mostly try to run with guildies to avoid that though.

And, if I see that auto ping, I know they are using Bandits UI. I don't know what it is that is causing Bandits to auto ping, but it is very annoying and kills my connection.

KaironBlackbard wrote: »

He could only type 6 words before getting re-booted
So when he asked if any were using Bandits UI...
The next time he logged in he wasn't booted as fast because some of them disabled it.
Once enough disabled it, he was able to run with them again.

I've run with groups running Bandits UI and ran with groups not running it at all, there for a while I was having all types of issues with groups that weren't running it at all. I haven't had any real issues in a week or 2.

One thing I will say, if you're on PC, get rid of Slip's Sanity's Edge Assist, I'm talking delete it from your addons folder, that causes all these issues. As soon as I deleted from my folder, I've had absolutely no issues, maybe a frame freeze every now and then, but that's it. Even not having it active, but having it in your addons folder will cause major issues.

If any given addon is causing trouble to a person, it's likely because it's an out of date addon. API changes over the years make all sorts of functions either no longer work, work oddly, or cause errors that might not be visible pop-up errors, but still affect how your client communicates with the servers.

When you get booted and the reason given amounts to "chat spam" even tho you weren't chatting for example, it's not because of actual chat spam, it's that your client was hitting the server with a bunch of requests in a very short time frame. Something like that can be caused by an out of date addon sending a lot of calls for a function the API no longer supports, and without having any other way of handling that, the game just boots you.

It's possible that some are experiencing these issues because of out of date addons, but again addons AREN'T causing them for a majority of us dealing with them, and aren't making them worse. Too many people who cannot or do not use addons are having these problems for them to be largely getting caused by addons.

KaironBlackbard

I run only a few addons.

• Map Pins
• Lorebooks
• TTC
• USPF

And their required libraries. That's it. Nothing else.

I wish there were settings we could use to limit or restrict the calls other player's addons make to our machines.
That would solve some of the BanditsUI issues my brother and I are having.
The only time we are having real issues is when grouped with a BanditsUI user who has it active.
Otherwise everything works perfectly fine.
NW FL. Area seems to have ok connection to ESO for now. For now...

StubbiThrash

1 week of lag spikes in different content idk what to do. US ping test is fine and EU ping is horrible random out of time messages from cmd


is there any update on this ?

here from Germany RLP

Soriana

Computer illiterate here so bear with me; ran a pathping and a tracert to see what the results were. Are 15 hops on a tracert normal? I honestly have not a clue.

gamerguy757

Dec 8
Kicked from and getting login error. Can’t get back on

Bucky Balls

23:00 utc pc-eu

The server is usually very quiet at this time (and it was).

And yet:



Internet fine. No other connectivty issues. eso flatlined earlier (game froze); the following fail gave the above error message.

This is not good. No updates are not good either.

Perhaps a live-stream of the fault-finding process/investigation with the team-leader coordinating might be appropriate at this juncture?

Pelanora

Bucky Balls wrote: »

23:00 utc pc-eu

The server is usually very quiet at this time (and it was).

And yet:



Internet fine. No other connectivty issues. eso flatlined earlier (game froze); the following fail gave the above error message.

This is not good. No updates are not good either.

Perhaps a live-stream of the fault-finding process/investigation with the team-leader coordinating might be appropriate at this juncture?

Ooooh they could get a streamer to commentate. "And he's on the home strait but bug 43216 still in the lead, it's neck and neck! It will be a photo finish"

LadyGP

Any update @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_Kevin ?

silky_soft

Was pretty bad today, so they must of been uploading a lengthy response with high quality graphs and animations.

Arrow312

As i saw nothing new same shxt different month..... @LadyGP the pictures you added was exactly the same i had when i quitted.

Aurielle

Was thinking about re-downloading ESO to participate in New Life festivities (my second favourite ESO event after Witches Festival), but I see there are still no meaningful updates to this situation. Guess I’ll just continue playing other online games that don’t feature massive ping spikes and frequent disconnects.

LadyGP

Arrow312 wrote: »

As i saw nothing new same shxt different month..... @LadyGP the pictures you added was exactly the same i had when i quitted.

As an end user... it's hands down the most frustrating thing I've experienced in a game to date (have to be very careful with what I say from here on out.... for... reasons)

Aurielle wrote: »

Was thinking about re-downloading ESO to participate in New Life festivities (my second favourite ESO event after Witches Festival), but I see there are still no meaningful updates to this situation. Guess I’ll just continue playing other online games that don’t feature massive ping spikes and frequent disconnects.

I'm right there with you. This is the first year I will not be partaking in this event. This is my favorite event in any video but I can no longer justify the hours of frustration trying to stay logged into the game to play for 20ish minutes every hour.

For those that don't have issues I truly hope they enjoy the event. It's a fun one.

NotNi.ya

Thanksgiving is over, We were told we could get an update or at least a small "we're still looking at it" copy pasta. still nothing! its about to be Christmas. should we just give up?

LadyGP

NotNi.ya wrote: »

Thanksgiving is over, We were told we could get an update or at least a small "we're still looking at it" copy pasta. still nothing! its about to be Christmas. should we just give up?

Never give up.

I'm sure @ZOS_JessicaFolsom and @ZOS_Kevin are working on it. I'm actually thinking maybe @ZOS_MattFiror might address this in his upcoming EOY letter.

(Matts forum account hasn't been active in over a year so no way he is seeing that tag lol)

Servadei

It's not addons because it happens on console too and even when I don't use addons. I wish people would stop bringing up addons because it derails from the real issue. It's ZOS.

PC NA, I'm getting constant disconnects porting in and out of houses while doing surveys and sometimes when zoning into normal base game dungeons. The error popup is unhelpful because it says disconnected from server but it doesn't give a reason.

LadyGP

Servadei wrote: »

It's not addons because it happens on console too and even when I don't use addons. I wish people would stop bringing up addons because it derails from the real issue. It's ZOS.

PC NA, I'm getting constant disconnects porting in and out of houses while doing surveys and sometimes when zoning into normal base game dungeons. The error popup is unhelpful because it says disconnected from server but it doesn't give a reason.

Add-ons was like the 2nd or 3rd comment in this thread. Sure, some peoples issues are add-on related but those are NOT the issues we are talking about in this thread.

We've 100% verified that it's not a hardware/add-on/isp issue.

Seravi

I've been playing since Friday night and the only hiccup I've had is today when I tried to take the last portal out of the Vile Manse on the Companion quest, the game kicked me.

My ping has been steady and the skills responsive. Not sure what changed but it has been nice playing the last few days considering for the past seven months I couldn't stay logged in but a few minutes as I was either kicked or my ping did the 999+ dance.

LadyGP

Seravi wrote: »

I've been playing since Friday night and the only hiccup I've had is today when I tried to take the last portal out of the Vile Manse on the Companion quest, the game kicked me.

My ping has been steady and the skills responsive. Not sure what changed but it has been nice playing the last few days considering for the past seven months I couldn't stay logged in but a few minutes as I was either kicked or my ping did the 999+ dance.

The last time someone came in here and said this... and I logged in to play.. I got hit with 999+ and kicked in under 3 minutes.

Don't give me false hope!!!!!! lolol

Quackery

I really miss playing in Cyrodiil...