Hawk Eye Bow Passive

kittykatgov

Can y'all please completely change this passive? It's entirely too clunky and uncomfortable with a 5 second window, especially as an Arcanist trying to keep it stacked between 4.9 second Exhausting Fatecarvers is basically impossible and takes a huge amount of power out of the bow. The Long Shot change is cool but Hawk Eye is in dire need of an update.

Billium813

kittykatgov wrote: »

Can y'all please completely change this passive? It's entirely too clunky and uncomfortable with a 5 second window, especially as an Arcanist trying to keep it stacked between 4.9 second Exhausting Fatecarvers is basically impossible and takes a huge amount of power out of the bow. The Long Shot change is cool but Hawk Eye is in dire need of an update.

I quite like Hawk Eye as it is. It triggers off LA and HA, so it works into several different play styles and its quite good IF you have the skill to use it.

If the reason for the complaint is that, as an Arcanist, you HAVE to use Fatecarver and therefore Bow does not work for Arcanist, then that says more about Fatecarver then it does Bow and Hawk Eye.

kittykatgov

Billium813 wrote: »

kittykatgov wrote: »

Can y'all please completely change this passive? It's entirely too clunky and uncomfortable with a 5 second window, especially as an Arcanist trying to keep it stacked between 4.9 second Exhausting Fatecarvers is basically impossible and takes a huge amount of power out of the bow. The Long Shot change is cool but Hawk Eye is in dire need of an update.

I quite like Hawk Eye as it is. It triggers off LA and HA, so it works into several different play styles and its quite good IF you have the skill to use it.

If the reason for the complaint is that, as an Arcanist, you HAVE to use Fatecarver and therefore Bow does not work for Arcanist, then that says more about Fatecarver then it does Bow and Hawk Eye.

It really only buffs Bow/Bow builds because the window (even not considering Fatecarver, plenty of classes and builds have DoTs and buffs to maintain that make a 5 second window to keep stacks incredibly punishing). Not a single other weapon skill line passive has a stacking mechanic like this, it's totally out of the ordinary and makes one passive in the bow skill line completely useless for anyone not running Bow/bow (since it's while equipped and if you don't have a frontbar bow as well you can't really weave with an uptime of 5 seconds) because let's be real, switching to your other weapon and then using a single skill almost doesn't make the window once you switch back. It's clunky and only fits one weapon setup whereas every other weapon skill line has passive buffs that don't need to be stacked that buffs the weapon when equipped.

Billium813

kittykatgov wrote: »

Billium813 wrote: »

kittykatgov wrote: »

Can y'all please completely change this passive? It's entirely too clunky and uncomfortable with a 5 second window, especially as an Arcanist trying to keep it stacked between 4.9 second Exhausting Fatecarvers is basically impossible and takes a huge amount of power out of the bow. The Long Shot change is cool but Hawk Eye is in dire need of an update.

I quite like Hawk Eye as it is. It triggers off LA and HA, so it works into several different play styles and its quite good IF you have the skill to use it.

If the reason for the complaint is that, as an Arcanist, you HAVE to use Fatecarver and therefore Bow does not work for Arcanist, then that says more about Fatecarver then it does Bow and Hawk Eye.

It really only buffs Bow/Bow builds ...

I do get what you mean by the short window, I really do. Perhaps a stack could be removed every 5 seconds instead of all stacks? You weave a couple LAs on the back bar, get Hawk Eye up, then it ticks down a couple stacks on the front bar, but not as badly?



Another option could be something similar to the Destruction Staff Ancient Knowledge passive. It would be interesting if Bow has a similar passive that augmented damage for it's particular damage type, Direct Damage, rather than parasitically buffing just Bow damage. Lightning Staff increases damage done with over time and channeled attacks, Inferno seems to be going for damage done by the initial hit of status effects, maybe Bow could increase damage done with direct damage? It would at least fit thematically, however I like the spooling up mechanic of Hawk Eye, requiring multiple hits to get going, but having a large payoff if you can sustain the stacks.

On the same thread... it could be interesting too if the current Ancient Knowledge went in a similar direction as Hawk Eye and spooled up with stacks...

kittykatgov

I think the stacking would be fine if, like you suggested, it only removed 1 stack at a time instead of all 5. It's incredibly punishing in that regard, either a longer window or less stacks lost on a missed LA within the window.

RaptorRodeoGod

You lose stacks when you cast the bow ultimate, the timer should at least be longer to compensate for that

kojou

Making the timer 10 seconds for Hawk Eye should be fine and would solve the problem easily... They have done this other areas to make certain buffs easier to manage.

JerBearESO

It would be noooiiiiice to have a light attack speed weapon. Dare I say, hawk eye should increase light attack speed? I have my reasons