Please remove the writs requiring chitin

lurkin777

I get them more than any other kind or writ for alchemy and the are rare for me and I get them way to often.

VaranisArano

You mean Alchemy writs requiring Mudcrab Chitin?

I realize that bots usually infest the beach outside of Haven, Grahtwood. But still, chitin drops from mudcrabs. If you need more, just go hunt some mudcrabs.

Alternatively, you can check your writs for alternate materials. Mudcrab Chitin can't always be replaced, but it's worth checking if you are having issues with sourcing your supplies. https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Online:A_Masterful_Concoction

lurkin777

I don't want to hunt mudcrabs. I get that writ more than any other writ and it is a pain. My main character has gotten it the last two days that I have done writs. It is not a common item and I just delete the writ but is sucks.

redspecter23

If the writ isn't worth your time, don't do that writ. If the items required are exceptionally valuable, consider selling the items instead of doing that writ.

Mudcrab Chitin have basically one purpose and that's to do writs. I'm not aware of any commonly used item that requires them.

Perhaps there is an addon that will auto abandon certain daily writs when they come up so players don't throw away valuable or rare materials. If you're doing writs on one toon per day, the requirement for chitin won't be much of an issue. If you do 18+ toons a day, you will eventually find yourself needing to buy more just to keep up and it's expensive in bulk.

Also, for clarification and accuracy, the writ requiring 3 mudcrab chitin is one of 8 potential daily writs you will be given at max tier and is on a rotation. You will receive this writ every 8 days on each toon you have. It does not come up more than any other and certainly will not come up 2 days in a row unless you skipped 7 days in between picking up writs. If you do any tier other than max tier, mudcrab chitin is never required so you can lower your tier and do those writs if that helps, though you may find yourself short on other materials instead such as nirnroot or cornflower, depending on the tier.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Alchemist_Writ

lurkin777

I got the writ two days in a row on one character so the rotation is not working.

VaranisArano

I guess I misunderstood and you are talking about the regular Alchemy writ that requires Essence of Stamina and Mudcrab Chitin.

That's one of eight Max Tier writs on a rotation. If you are doing your writs every day, Have you been tracking what writs you are getting so you can show ZOS there's a problem with your rotation? If you aren't keeping track of the data, I'd start now.

This site has a list of the tasks you should be seeing: https://benevolentbowd.ca/games/esotu/esotu-alchemist-writs/

Fennwitty

You can precraft a batch of them to not have to worry about it in between.

Jayne_Doe

I do top tier alchemy writs on 6 characters, and the supply of mudcrab chitin does slowly dwindle if you don't actively farm for it.

Some of us have requested, on more than one occasion, that it be added to the loot table for the reward containers. You can get other critter reagents this way, such as butterfly wing and spider eggs, but chitin for some reason is not included.

Al_Ex_Andre

lurkin777 wrote: »

I get them more than any other kind or writ for alchemy and the are rare for me and I get them way to often.

+1

Same as OP, having mudcrab chitin to farm or buy, during my writs, is not desirable to me.

Either NUKE the requirement (change the requirement),
or add ways to collect the chitin either in the reward containers or through a new alchemy hireling skill (maybie).

In the meantime I can do with it, but I think it's just clunky as it (imo). Or let's abandon this writ when it comes? Sure?

Sole profession that has this problem. Intended? Healthy? Good? If it's healthy, well let's keep that as it, but is it?

AstroST

And here we are again asking for all things to be served on a silver platter.
You can just find chitin on guild stores or just take some time circling one of the little island and kill them or just don't do this writ.

FrancisCrawford

Al_Ex_Andre wrote: »

lurkin777 wrote: »

I get them more than any other kind or writ for alchemy and the are rare for me and I get them way to often.

+1

Same as OP, having mudcrab chitin to farm or buy, during my writs, is not desirable to me.

Either NUKE the requirement (change the requirement),
or add ways to collect the chitin either in the reward containers or through a new alchemy hireling skill (maybie).

In the meantime I can do with it, but I think it's just clunky as it (imo). Or let's abandon this writ when it comes? Sure?

Sole profession that has this problem. Intended? Healthy? Good? If it's healthy, well let's keep that as it, but is it?

Sole profession?

Unless you actually farm from all your crafting maps, you need to get new mats for almost any writ kind eventually.

Even if you do, are they really enough, especially above the lowest tier? I'm particularly suspicious of the Oko requirement in Enchanting.

Dagoth_Rac

The purpose of writs, which were not a thing when game first came out, was to slowly but surely drain players of their materials, so they would have to go back out into the game world and farm them. Or buy them from guild traders (also not a thing when game came out).

If you need to farm more or buy more from other players, seems like it is working as intended, not broken.

katanagirl1

I made a thread about this, how mudcrab chitin is the only item not given in reward boxes.

I got some supportive comments, but eventually asked the thread to be closed because I could never get an official response.

Al_Ex_Andre

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Al_Ex_Andre wrote: »

lurkin777 wrote: »

I get them more than any other kind or writ for alchemy and the are rare for me and I get them way to often.

+1

Same as OP, having mudcrab chitin to farm or buy, during my writs, is not desirable to me.

Either NUKE the requirement (change the requirement),
or add ways to collect the chitin either in the reward containers or through a new alchemy hireling skill (maybie).

In the meantime I can do with it, but I think it's just clunky as it (imo). Or let's abandon this writ when it comes? Sure?

Sole profession that has this problem. Intended? Healthy? Good? If it's healthy, well let's keep that as it, but is it?

Sole profession?

Unless you actually farm from all your crafting maps, you need to get new mats for almost any writ kind eventually.

Even if you do, are they really enough, especially above the lowest tier? I'm particularly suspicious of the Oko requirement in Enchanting.

I have 20 writ chartacters. I have them all since recently, but so far only the lack of chitin is causing me problems (I farm the crafting nodes that are given to me.). That's why I asked constructively if it is intented, or if we could get a discussion.

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I made a thread about this, how mudcrab chitin is the only item not given in reward boxes.

I got some supportive comments, but eventually asked the thread to be closed because I could never get an official response.

Hi, cheers! Yes only item you need to stop your writs to buy/of farm.^^ If we don't get a ZOS response, maybie it is intented eventually. Still, I am curious if it is intended, to know the reason.

Or maybie it is just a left over, a mistake, and it takes ressources to fix it. In which my response would be: ZoS, please fix, thank you

Al_Ex_Andre

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

The purpose of writs, which were not a thing when game first came out, was to slowly but surely drain players of their materials, so they would have to go back out into the game world and farm them. Or buy them from guild traders (also not a thing when game came out).

If you need to farm more or buy more from other players, seems like it is working as intended, not broken.

I did miss this response.
Well ZOS provide hireling skills and rewardboxes and crafting nodes. I get everyting I need, these ways. Chitin is the exception. A left over?

WySoSirius

Agree with OP , I have found the frequency of the particular writ had increased and farming mudcrabs the chitin drops have decreased, it is a horrible task for a simple daily

Lugaldu

Oh yes, how I hate having to kill those poor mudcrabs! I really really hate it!

katanagirl1

Al_Ex_Andre wrote: »

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Al_Ex_Andre wrote: »

lurkin777 wrote: »

I get them more than any other kind or writ for alchemy and the are rare for me and I get them way to often.

+1

Same as OP, having mudcrab chitin to farm or buy, during my writs, is not desirable to me.

Either NUKE the requirement (change the requirement),
or add ways to collect the chitin either in the reward containers or through a new alchemy hireling skill (maybie).

In the meantime I can do with it, but I think it's just clunky as it (imo). Or let's abandon this writ when it comes? Sure?

Sole profession that has this problem. Intended? Healthy? Good? If it's healthy, well let's keep that as it, but is it?

Sole profession?

Unless you actually farm from all your crafting maps, you need to get new mats for almost any writ kind eventually.

Even if you do, are they really enough, especially above the lowest tier? I'm particularly suspicious of the Oko requirement in Enchanting.

I have 20 writ chartacters. I have them all since recently, but so far only the lack of chitin is causing me problems (I farm the crafting nodes that are given to me.). That's why I asked constructively if it is intented, or if we could get a discussion.

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I made a thread about this, how mudcrab chitin is the only item not given in reward boxes.

I got some supportive comments, but eventually asked the thread to be closed because I could never get an official response.

Hi, cheers! Yes only item you need to stop your writs to buy/of farm.^^ If we don't get a ZOS response, maybie it is intented eventually. Still, I am curious if it is intended, to know the reason.

Or maybie it is just a left over, a mistake, and it takes ressources to fix it. In which my response would be: ZoS, please fix, thank you

I only get 700 gold from doing that writ I think, not worth the cost of farming or buying the mat. I just abandon all of them.

kringled_1

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Al_Ex_Andre wrote: »

lurkin777 wrote: »

I get them more than any other kind or writ for alchemy and the are rare for me and I get them way to often.

+1

Same as OP, having mudcrab chitin to farm or buy, during my writs, is not desirable to me.

Either NUKE the requirement (change the requirement),
or add ways to collect the chitin either in the reward containers or through a new alchemy hireling skill (maybie).

In the meantime I can do with it, but I think it's just clunky as it (imo). Or let's abandon this writ when it comes? Sure?

Sole profession that has this problem. Intended? Healthy? Good? If it's healthy, well let's keep that as it, but is it?

Sole profession?

Unless you actually farm from all your crafting maps, you need to get new mats for almost any writ kind eventually.

Even if you do, are they really enough, especially above the lowest tier? I'm particularly suspicious of the Oko requirement in Enchanting.

Oko at least drops from surveys, and the green glyphs that come from enchanting writs can include absorb health glyphs which can also yield oko (granted a much smaller source than surveys). If you do enchanting daily writs at levels other than 1,4,7,and 10, those levels have lower oko consumption rates.
Mudcrab chitin does not come from surveys or the daily material return from alchemy writs. It also doesn't drop in the tel var alchemy satchels. So yes, it is intrinsically different. The only things I can do to manage my consumption is to not do writs at the top level, or to not do this particular writ. I've chosen the latter, so that my characters can all make their own potions. Enchantments otoh I need to make with a much lower frequency, so I'm willing to run characters at levels below the top.

tmbrinks

WySoSirius wrote: »

Agree with OP , I have found the frequency of the particular writ had increased and farming mudcrabs the chitin drops have decreased, it is a horrible task for a simple daily

There has been no change in frequency of this writ showing up. They are still on the same 8-day cycle they have always been on.

Nothing has changed. It's a set repeating pattern.

Edit: I am talking about max level... but I highly doubt any of them have changed, since they've been the same for like 8 years now.

kringled_1

tmbrinks wrote: »

WySoSirius wrote: »

Agree with OP , I have found the frequency of the particular writ had increased and farming mudcrabs the chitin drops have decreased, it is a horrible task for a simple daily

There has been no change in frequency of this writ showing up. They are still on the same 8-day cycle they have always been on.

Nothing has changed. It's a set repeating pattern.

Edit: I am talking about max level... but I highly doubt any of them have changed, since they've been the same for like 8 years now.

What has changed, at least for me, is the availability and cost of chitin at traders. I recognize that I was likely benefiting from people botting crabs for leather, but as it is I can't justify doing this writ anymore.

tmbrinks

kringled_1 wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

WySoSirius wrote: »

Agree with OP , I have found the frequency of the particular writ had increased and farming mudcrabs the chitin drops have decreased, it is a horrible task for a simple daily

There has been no change in frequency of this writ showing up. They are still on the same 8-day cycle they have always been on.

Nothing has changed. It's a set repeating pattern.

Edit: I am talking about max level... but I highly doubt any of them have changed, since they've been the same for like 8 years now.

What has changed, at least for me, is the availability and cost of chitin at traders. I recognize that I was likely benefiting from people bottling crabs for leather, but as it is I can't justify doing this writ anymore.

I do not disagree with that. The ever-present sorcerer pet bot accounts that were killing them, once they got banned, has greatly reduced the supply. Other players do not want to spend time killing mudcrabs to maintain stock. Eventually prices will hit a value that more people will farm. When that will be will be anybody's guess.

I take umbrage when verifiably false information is posted, and is allowed to stay posted. It only contributes to future confusion from other players who might be looking at it. It's a conspiracy theory/misinformation post, which I thought were not allowed here on these forums, but looks like I'm wrong since it's still posted.

Aislinna

Why not drop own to proficiency level 7, which doesn't require mudcrab chitin for it's writ group?

katanagirl1

Aislinna wrote: »

Why not drop own to proficiency level 7, which doesn't require mudcrab chitin for it's writ group?

Because you get better rewards for max tier daily writs.

Aislinna

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Aislinna wrote: »

Why not drop own to proficiency level 7, which doesn't require mudcrab chitin for it's writ group?

Because you get better rewards for max tier daily writs.

People are saying they are abandoning those writs, which is zero rewards. But choices, I guess.

kringled_1

Aislinna wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Aislinna wrote: »

Why not drop own to proficiency level 7, which doesn't require mudcrab chitin for it's writ group?

Because you get better rewards for max tier daily writs.

People are saying they are abandoning those writs, which is zero rewards. But choices, I guess.

Losing one day out of 8 at max level isn't that much of a loss. Generally you get better rewards for max tier, although I'm not sure that's true for alchemy.
Personally, I don't drop to 7 because I want all my characters to be able to make their own potions. Potions get consumed much faster than foods (2 hours is 1-2 foods, but can easily be 30-50 potions). I don't want to have to swap between characters in the middle of things to go make potions.

AzuraFan

I sometimes didn't have mudcrab chitin when that writ was the daily. So now whenever I see a mudcrab, I kill it. They're all over the place. Just go to any water in most zones. You'll quickly build up a nice supply.

(While I loathe bots and wish ZOS would do something about them, they're not taking all the chitin. I kill mudcrabs almost daily, just running around doing endeavors.)

freespirit

Not a great help but

kringled_1 wrote: »

Aislinna wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Aislinna wrote: »

Why not drop own to proficiency level 7, which doesn't require mudcrab chitin for it's writ group?

Because you get better rewards for max tier daily writs.

People are saying they are abandoning those writs, which is zero rewards. But choices, I guess.

Losing one day out of 8 at max level isn't that much of a loss. Generally you get better rewards for max tier, although I'm not sure that's true for alchemy.
Personally, I don't drop to 7 because I want all my characters to be able to make their own potions. Potions get consumed much faster than foods (2 hours is 1-2 foods, but can easily be 30-50 potions). I don't want to have to swap between characters in the middle of things to go make potions.

Presumably you know what potions you use most? I make stacks and store them in the bank, I only have two top tier alchemists the rest I leave at lvl 1.

At that lvl the writ potions are sip of..... stamina, magicka, health and ravage stamina I always make these in bulk and leave in the bank, never automated, so I can pick which reagents I use.

As for rewards I have 2 max and 6 lvl 1 that I do crafting dailies everyday, maybe the max lvl get more master writs and a bit more gold but no so much that a I've noticed. I stash the writs in the bank and all I know is that every time there is a double xp event I have plenty to sell!

I've actually never noticed a problem with chitin, I don't actively farm mudcrabs but usually kill them if I see them, especially since prices are so high, I sell some every so often too. I have noticed it frequently drops in the reward containers for ToT npc dailies though! 🙂

Edit:- Surveys seem to drop from all characters whatever level.

katanagirl1

So all these workarounds you guys have do not justify the fact that mudcrab chitin is the ONLY alchemy reagent that is not returned in the rewards container.

All other discussion is just a diversion.

Al_Ex_Andre

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I only get 700 gold from doing that writ I think, not worth the cost of farming or buying the mat. I just abandon all of them.

I don't do the chitin writ now too, I agree with your post, not worth it.^^
I watched my stock also these late days, I might also have lacks of Violet Coprinus or Nightshades in some time, asked for the alchemy writs too.

Maybie alchemy needs an overhaul. ZOS did a survey about professions a while back and I answered: "perfect!". I wish they gave me another survey now. There's no ZOS answer here, they think it's fine.

So not doing a certain writ(s) is acceptable? Good design that? Whatever, I can adapt. Cheers, I am out. Take care.

peacenote

I feel like there is always going to be one writ statistically where the reagent is rarer/ more expensive. For a long time, for me, it was nirnroot, and I skipped them because I just didn't have time to go get some. In fact, iirc, the amount needed for writs was actually changed or it was addressed in some way (I could be wrong though, it's a vague memory). It wasn't something I asked for personally as I knew I could go out and gather if I had the time.

katanagirl1 wrote: »

So all these workarounds you guys have do not justify the fact that mudcrab chitin is the ONLY alchemy reagent that is not returned in the rewards container.

All other discussion is just a diversion.

I'm not sure that it's supposed to be guaranteed that the writ rewards allow us to do new writs without having to go to out into the world, once you get into the habit, but I would agree that just from a consistency perspective there's no reason not to have them in the reward boxes, at least once in a while.