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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Faction lock is coming.

Nermy
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I heard a whisper it's a thing... About time? ;)
The ability to join a campaign as a guest will also be removed. There will be changes to the Emperor system and Alliance locked campaigns.
Edited by Nermy on 28 March 2019 16:17
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  • ATomiX96
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    All campaigns except Shor are affected by this.
    So everyone that has friends on other campaigns is kinda bound to play on Shor now.
    The diehard PvDoor-Friends and Zerglings will stay in Vivec and Sotha anyways.
    Might be a good thing, at least for Shor.
  • dotme
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    Nermy wrote: »
    I heard a whisper it's a thing... About time? ;)
    The ability to join a campaign as a guest will also be removed. There will be changes to the Emperor system and Alliance locked campaigns.

    Source?
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  • DisgracefulMind
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    All the faction rpers have succeeded with this is that they cut off all the actual rpers and pvers from getting all their crystals from one campaign. We'll still be able to port in on any faction for a 30-day, just not home it on every faction. Soooo, what did this accomplish? Nothing, and this PvP scene is dying anyways, so why do people want to cut off even more PvP? :neutral:
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  • ATomiX96
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    All the faction rpers have succeeded with this is that they cut off all the actual rpers and pvers from getting all their crystals from one campaign. We'll still be able to port in on any faction for a 30-day, just not home it on every faction. Soooo, what did this accomplish? Nothing, and this PvP scene is dying anyways, so why do people want to cut off even more PvP? :neutral:

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  • Nermy
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    dotme wrote: »
    Nermy wrote: »
    I heard a whisper it's a thing... About time? ;)
    The ability to join a campaign as a guest will also be removed. There will be changes to the Emperor system and Alliance locked campaigns.

    Source?

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5923500/#Comment_5923500
    @Nermy
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  • DisgracefulMind
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    ATomiX96 wrote: »
    All the faction rpers have succeeded with this is that they cut off all the actual rpers and pvers from getting all their crystals from one campaign. We'll still be able to port in on any faction for a 30-day, just not home it on every faction. Soooo, what did this accomplish? Nothing, and this PvP scene is dying anyways, so why do people want to cut off even more PvP? :neutral:

    fAcTiOn PrIdE, SpIeS, ReEeEeEeEeEeEeEeE gIvE mE fAcTiOn LoCk So I cAn ZeRgSuRf HaRdEr.

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  • IxSTALKERxI
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    It doesn't change anything. Probably intended to reduce end of campaign reward farming which is fair enough. The emperor change is huge though... wouldn't wanna be crowned emp while offline lol. Infact it could even be strategic to let the enemy crown emp if you know they aren't on or if u can depose them straight after.
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  • Nermy
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    According to previews of Elsweyr, alliance lock is coming to Kyne, Sotha, and Vivec. Shor will remain the same without an alliance lock. I.e. you can't home 2 different alliance factioned characters to the same campaign and if one character drops it to allow a different faction access, that character will lose all AP earned and not earn end of campaign rewards.

    Additionally you will not have to set a guest campaign but can visit the others as if it were a guest campaign.

    Other news - Emperor will only be able to be earned once per campaign per account
    Super weapon will spawn randomly, not near keeps but generally closer to the losing alliance side when it does spawn.
    Current Emp will not be allowed to pick up super weapon.
    Will drop when you die, and despawn if not picked up within 30 minutes.
    Edited by Nermy on 29 March 2019 08:44
    @Nermy
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  • frostz417
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    Imagine still having faction pride in 2019
  • Mudcrabber
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    All my characters are already in Shor so I'm fine with this.
  • Recremen
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    It won't affect my playstyle, but I never really saw a point to this idea. You cut down on the extremely-rare trolling in favor of letting other people play legitimately with friends on different factions. And as others have pointed out, you won't even eliminate trolling. Doesn't really sound necessary to me.

    Also, the way the revealer phrased things is a little concerning. If you drop a campaign you lose all AP earned? As in, go backwards in Alliance War rank and everything? Or do they just mean reset your leaderboard AP score? The first option is terrible, the second is fine.
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  • technohic
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    I'm sitting here as playing only DC and thinking about how outside of this campaign, barely being locked on Vivec. Think this campaign is only because we have some of the hoppers and honestly people are less than friendly with them. I'm just ready for them all to just stay put on EP which normally is the first to lock and wins the most campaigns.

    I guess when the remove IC, I can at least quit asking where all the DC at.

    Kind of odd to pick Shor as 1 to leave swapping. Its only 1 week and already ripe for EMP farming
    Edited by technohic on 28 March 2019 19:46
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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  • Beardimus
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    I'm 100% up for faction lock, but the way its being done is odd, surely Kyne, Sotha, Shor would make sense and leave the herds who don't care about factions in Vivec.

    Odd to promote hopping in a 7 day were Its rife anyway!

    Regardless I'm happy
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  • Edirt_seliv
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    Elong wrote: »
    You guy understand people who play different factions can still play on any campaign right? Just don't get the transmute gems.
    People are still going to troll you. I hope they do.

    I agree in totality.

    This is in no way a faction lock. It just decentivizes switching factions. Thankfully for trolls, the incentive purely is trolling. Looking forward to future spy threads.
    Edited by Edirt_seliv on 28 March 2019 19:59
  • Gilvoth
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    that's not Good Enough.
    people can still faction hop and cause the same problems they do right now.
    the only difference this is going to make, is its going to make cheaters not get AP and end campaign rewards.
  • Xsorus
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    I've only played DC the whole time
  • Moonsorrow
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    This is a good thing. Glad they been listening to the majority of people. Yes, there was a poll and majority said campaigns need locks.

    Benefits: not so much trolling (shouting at enemy zone chat), not so much scrolls running to water, all in all less griefing i`d say. Not so many switching to the leading alliance of the moment, making things even more badly balanced on numbers.

    To the people crying about this saying the usual "but i want to play with friends and troll to max reeeeeeeeee pls no locks omgzomg".. you got bgs for fast action to play with friends from any alliance and you also got Shor. Enjoy your trollfest there and be happy. :)

    Us who been wanting locks and less of pointless trolling and griefing gonna enjoy the changes and it does not make us "zerglings who rp" since there are us smallscale people too who never seen point in alliance hopping many times a day to just max troll..

    Cyrodiil long campaigns are supposed to simulate the war and it can be a fun game mode (imo best fun in this game) when there is no trolling. And these changes not gonna end all trolling and switching, but it is better than what we got now.

    So happy about this. Nice job @ZOS_BrianWheeler :)
  • twitch_zero
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    Thank you ZOS this at least is a step in the right direction.
  • Elong
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    I'm 100% up for faction lock, but the way its being done is odd, surely Kyne, Sotha, Shor would make sense and leave the herds who don't care about factions in Vivec.

    Odd to promote hopping in a 7 day were Its rife anyway!

    Regardless I'm happy

    What they are doing is not a faction lock. Why can't you read?
  • Edirt_seliv
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    Gilvoth wrote: »
    that's not Good Enough.
    people can still faction hop and cause the same problems they do right now.
    the only difference this is going to make, is its going to make cheaters not get AP and end campaign rewards.

    Cheaters wot?
  • Ruckly
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    If this is a thing it is probably my fault. I play my AD toon on weekdays and my DC toons on weekends because of the way queues work. I'm getting maximum fun out of my game play which is unequitable. I'm also creating maximum fun for those fighting in my sphere of engagement.
  • manny254
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    I know this is something that is intended to appease a segment of the games population that typically lacks a high level understanding of PVP, but at least Shor might finally have some population.
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  • usmcjdking
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    Most of the high impact players who play on underpopulated/weak factions are faction swappers.
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  • thegreat_one
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    The good - Farming AP should be kept to Shor. People who actually give a damn about their faction and more importantly, the map will stay to Vivec I believe.

    The Bad - IDGAF who gets emp how many times. If It defaults to second place if said person has already done it, then okay.
    Sharing EMP caused a ton of drama on DC. IDK about other factions, but forcing this may turn people away.
  • idk
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    ATomiX96 wrote: »
    All campaigns except Shor are affected by this.
    So everyone that has friends on other campaigns is kinda bound to play on Shor now.
    The diehard PvDoor-Friends and Zerglings will stay in Vivec and Sotha anyways.
    Might be a good thing, at least for Shor.

    LOL. Vivec is not the most active campaign because of PvDoor and Zergs. Players that prefer PvP go to where the most PvP is. This has been the case since the game launched. When we would fill two campaigns we filled two campaigns.

    Even back in the day the only time I heard someone wanting to go to a less active campaign was for an attempt at Emporer since they had less competition or because their PC could not handle the action of the more active campaigns (or maybe they could not).
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    Actually I heard that they'll be introducing a new campaign with faction lock and that they wanted everything to stay the same for the most part. Maybe the new IC campaign will be?
  • mayasunrising
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    brilliant! <3

    [edited for profanity]
    Edited by ZOS_Ragnar on 29 March 2019 20:44
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  • Moonsorrow
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    manny254 wrote: »
    I know this is something that is intended to appease a segment of the games population that typically lacks a high level understanding of PVP

    Wrong.

    I know some say as an excuse to alliance hopping the thing when map goes more to one color, so then you switch to the other for fast action pvp (farming noobs at resource tower).. but hey, there are battlegrounds for fast action pvp anytime anyday.

    But oh wait, there are no resource towers to farm noobs and you get other high mmr enemies against you where you also getting rekt like everyone else.. so better come to forum and cry about not being able to "play with friends" aka tower farm solos with your small scale nb team.

    I mean, i get action all the time 24/7 without hopping between alliances, if quiet at own alliance, then doing battlegrounds. And got other campaigns if wanna play other alliance, so simple solution lol.

    And the map being one color, when i login to enemy colored map, i start to slowly help taking own keeps back, it gives a fast feeling of progression each day, like a true war with moving frontlines. Hopping between alliances gives nothing other than the feeling of warring against yourself, if you first take a keep, then login to other alliance and then go attack same keep you just took - pointlessness for this game mode.

    If just wants fast action pvp, there is battlegrounds for that as said.

    So.. with all that in mind.. what exactly is this "high level understanding of PVP" you are talking about? I guess it is the people who are running scrolls to the water and spamming zone chats full of toxic garbage.
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