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A keep is under attack by a full raid (24 players) how do you defend it?

Waseem
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Defending Keeps is a big part of Cyrodiil gameplay isnt it !
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A keep is under attack by a full raid (24 players) how do you defend it? 87 votes

Light Attacks
16% 14 votes
Flaming Oil
21% 19 votes
Fire Ballista
9% 8 votes
Ballista
1% 1 vote
Normal 1vs1 skills against the whole 24 players
12% 11 votes
Others: Explain
39% 34 votes
  • Didgerion
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    You login as opposite faction and take it.
  • redspecter23
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    If there are 24 people at a keep, I'll take my group to another keep and do a swap if I don't feel like defense is a viable option and sometimes even if the defense would be viable. They can split forces to come defend the new keep, making the current target easier to defend for others or they can stay there, making my new target easier to take.
  • Apherius
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    10*catapults + psijic bubulle + negate + oil.
    Edited by Apherius on 2 October 2018 18:58
  • usmguy1234
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    Outer: stacking at entry point with plenty of siege coverage.

    Inner: Oil on the stairs and above the doorways. You can fit 2 on each side of the stairs plus one above the smaller doors. You can stack 4 above the main door. Meatbag on the second flag. Cold fires on either side of the second flag. A couple of tanky dks between the first and second flag to snare. Everyone else should be snaring and ult dropping anything that moves. You literally have the advantage as they are fighting through a bottleneck. To bad most people don't realize that.
    Edited by usmguy1234 on 2 October 2018 19:00
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  • SirAndy
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    "Light Attacks"
    Not sure why you mention them specifically, but yes, they are woven into all the other attacks if the situation calls for it.

    "Flaming Oil"
    Very situational but does ok damage if applied correctly.

    "Fire Ballista"
    Has been nerfed into Oblivion™.
    People sing and dance while laughing at your feeble attempts to cause any noticeable damage.

    "Ballista"
    See above ...

    "Normal 1vs1 skills against the whole 24 players"

    I often end up with this, especially when my skills refuse to fire from up on the keep wall.
    Nothing quite like jumping right into the middle of a 24 player group dropping ults like it's December 31st 1999 ...

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    Edited by SirAndy on 2 October 2018 19:04
  • Nestor
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    Wait until they take the keep, then take it back after they slink away
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  • VaranisArano
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    I light attack from the wall, providing moral support for anyone brave enough to actually go out and fight.

    /s

    Actually, if I'm the only person there, I type "AD raid at Drake FD" and then book it to the inner to set up oils because the only chance I have of surviving this is for the reinforcements to show up in time :)
  • method__01
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    2 oils above door (there is room for a catapult too) then 4 oil when they ram inner door plus another catapult
    when they get inside,oils above second flag,hopefully some1 has come for help till then
    if not, i pop an invisibility potion and hide top floor
    Edited by method__01 on 2 October 2018 19:11
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  • Master_Kas
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    I hide until they flipped keep and moved on, then siege it and try retake from inside :trollface:
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  • NyassaV
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    I either walk away or pick a few of em off till they get me. A good 1vX can give nice AP. As long as they are just pugs I can typically take a few before I die
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  • eso_nya
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    By raining fire from the skies like a demigod, while manically laughing at the caveman who run around with their big clubs. :)
    Edited by eso_nya on 2 October 2018 19:39
  • zyk
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    If I'm ungrouped, I stay mobile and look for opportunities to slow them down, disrupt them, isolate stragglers/over-extenders and eventually, hopefully, help wipe them when they're vulnerable.
  • geonsocal
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    do a little perfunctory catapulting and oil pouring - then, go out in a blaze of glory - cuz, chances are very good they'll only be one or two other players bothering to defend the keep...
    Edited by geonsocal on 2 October 2018 20:29
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  • Dominion_Nightblade
    Easy. You die a warriors death, resurrect somewhere, and wait till the zergs moves on.

    Or... you git gud and solo the zerg.. whatever works.
  • Neoauspex
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    Oils on the stairs
  • Joy_Division
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    I LOL at the "light attack" option as by watching the number of people of the roof spamming them, it is clear some people believe that is optimal.

    In all seriousness, the difference a few motivated people can do ought not to be underestimated. It pretty much depends on the group, but most 24 raids are not super disciplined and can be distracted and disrupted. Nightblades and 1vX players can harass and kill siegers. Oil will force them off a ram. At the end of the day, very outnumbered defenders only chance is for reinforcements to arrive, however by doing the sorts of things above, it is very possible and the effort should be made rather than quitting.

    I'd say 16 defenders who have a clue can prevent most 24 man raids from capturing a keep. The attackers want to do 4 things that are incompatible:
    1. Cover apse flag
    2. cover nave flag
    3. kill oilers on top
    4. stay together.

    If the attackers split on flags, they can be oiled and contested. If the attackers make an effort to clear the top, defenders can stay mobile and flip back flags. Usually friendles will arrive quicker and in greater numbers than unfriendlies so the 16 just have to survive long enough. Defenders who die should be patient, they will get rezzed bc/ the attackers can;t be everywhere at once.

    Defending keeps while outnumbered is one of the more enjoyable PvP experiences ESO has to offer.
    Edited by Joy_Division on 2 October 2018 22:07
  • RABIDxWOLVERINE
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    Run away as fast as your mount will carry you lol JK im not sure Ive ever tried to defend a keep but I also have only maybe 6-8 hours in cyrodiil and i wont lie I was zerg surfing for vigor and caltrops haha
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  • MerlinPendragon
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    You need everything. Snipers. Seige weapons. Group troops ready to fight at any breached walls or doors.

    Respawning camps are also crucial.
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  • ForsakenSin
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    ummm

    go to zon chat , type the name of the keep followed by 911 !! and annoy the enemy until your friends, guilds, faction ect arrive from behind the enemy and kill them all ... simple ...

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    Edited by ForsakenSin on 2 October 2018 23:19
    "By many i am seen as hero...as a savior of the Tamriel i will not stop until every Daedra every evil there is in Tamriel is vanquish by my hands..
    However i do this for my own purpose to gain trust of mortals to worship me and to eliminate my competition i will not bend my knee to lead your army to serve you Molag Bal , i will simply just take it from you.."--- Forsaken Sin( Magica Sorc)



    Arise From Darkness Forsaken SIn
    "You have been a loyal High Elf Magica Sorc
    Conjure of Darkness, Master of Magic
    Killer of Molag Bal and Savior of Ebonheart Pact
    Until Dark Brotherhood killed you...
    but now..NOW its time to Arise From Darkness once again..."

  • Cadbury
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    ummm

    go to zon chat , type the name of the keep followed by 911 !!

    Same. Except after that I curl in a fetal position and cry until help arrives.

    ...um, forget I said that.
    "If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."
  • Red_Feather
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    I like running between multiple flaming oils and keeping the pressure on.
  • Kova
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    I don't understand why people try to defend keeps, or even engage enemies without having huge amounts of allies.

    Don't they know if they fight they will die? Dying in this game is scary and I want to be safe on top of the keep wall until it falls.

    If see one person fighting three people and getting beat down, I just ride by and hope they didn't see me. I need my AP tick. I deserve the AP tick.

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  • ForsakenSin
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    Cadbury wrote: »
    ummm

    go to zon chat , type the name of the keep followed by 911 !!

    Same. Except after that I curl in a fetal position and cry until help arrives.

    ...um, forget I said that.

    LOL i would probably join you there buddy

    ive done that just the other day , i was by my self in the keep that was taken over by other faction and i was hiding behind the stairs in the inner wall while ive seen soooo many enemy around me and my thoughts were "please don't find me, don't find me, don't find me, dont, find me " and then when my alliance broke the wall and poured in i was like " LET ME HAVE THEM !!! " lol
    "By many i am seen as hero...as a savior of the Tamriel i will not stop until every Daedra every evil there is in Tamriel is vanquish by my hands..
    However i do this for my own purpose to gain trust of mortals to worship me and to eliminate my competition i will not bend my knee to lead your army to serve you Molag Bal , i will simply just take it from you.."--- Forsaken Sin( Magica Sorc)



    Arise From Darkness Forsaken SIn
    "You have been a loyal High Elf Magica Sorc
    Conjure of Darkness, Master of Magic
    Killer of Molag Bal and Savior of Ebonheart Pact
    Until Dark Brotherhood killed you...
    but now..NOW its time to Arise From Darkness once again..."

  • Dojohoda
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    Run in circles... "OMG, OMG, OMG" until I die.










    Set up the appropriate siege, as needed, if there's room for more. All the good spots are quickly taken.
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  • PhantomOcelot
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    Just go down on a nightblade and kill them one by one. Little zerglings are too dumb to step away from their balistas.
    Edited by PhantomOcelot on 3 October 2018 00:51
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  • DeadlyRecluse
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    I play mainly AD. Bow light attacks, yo.

    Bow light attacks on mag toons. Bow light attacks on tanks. Bow light attacks on healers.Bow lights forever and always.
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  • Morgul667
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    The good solutions are not in the list
    Edited by Morgul667 on 3 October 2018 01:17
  • FrancisCrawford
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    Dojohoda wrote: »
    Run in circles... "OMG, OMG, OMG" until I die.










    Set up the appropriate siege, as needed, if there's room for more. All the good spots are quickly taken.

    When in question, fear or doubt
    Run in circles, scream and shout
  • heng14rwb17_ESO
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    PAIN Train coming through.
  • SHADOW2KK
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    Fart, raid gets wiped.

    Job done
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