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Come on ESO, It's time to ACTUALLY nerf mag sorcs

  • The Uninvited
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    howbout we just un-nerf everything else? :)

    This. Don't nerf Sorcs, buff the other classes!
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  • Dracindo
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    Would be great if nightblades got a buff. And maybe have some abilities that ignore shield buffs.

    Sorcs need no nerf, everything else just needs a buff. Especially Nightblades.
    Edited by Dracindo on 11 May 2017 08:21
  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    These threads have become a common occurance around here lately.

    I have hit 30k Fire Staff Heavy Attacks on my Dunmer DK in PVP....I wish my Mag Sorc could hit that hard....ahh well, carry on gentlemen, carry on....

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    Sorcerer's - The ONLY class in the game that is punished for using its class defining skill (Bolt Escape)

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  • TreeHugger1
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    We seriously need to nerf mag sorcs. They are way too strong in pvp right now. Too many players playing sorc that are getting carried by their class, they would get *** on if they played on any other class. Throughout the existence of eso, mag sorcs have always been the strongest class no mater what update. Every other class always had their highs and lows, but sorcs always stay OP. They even dominate in pve too. Why does zos feel the need to make sorcs this much better than everyone? In order to put mag sorc inline with other classes, I will make these suggestions:

    1. Reduce the damage of frags and all it's morphs by 25%. 10% isn't enough, this skill is way too strong and needs a nerf for once

    2.Reduce ALL shields by 33%. The shields in this game are ridiculous and they carry way too many players. Stop spamming wards and GET GUD.

    3. Increase the cost of crushing shock by 33%.
    Too many trribads spam the *** out of this ability that hits like a damn truck. L2P and GET GUD

    4. Reduce the damage of curse by 40% and have hit after 6 seconds, and again after 6 seconds. This ability is stupid OP and hits for way too much damage. An undodgable ability like this should not be able to hit this hard. Make it inline with POTL. GET GUD

    5. Increase cost of mines but 15% and reduce the damage by 50%.
    These mines hit like a *** truck and it blows my mind that an ability this strong is in the game. Way too many terribad sorcs just sit in their mines and get carried by them. L2P

    6. Reduce the damage of Eye of the Storm by 25%. Yes, I know this isn't a sorc ability, but it's way too *** strong and so many awful sorcs get carried by this ability. This is also a zerg player's best friend so please nerf the *** out of this morph.

    7. Increase the cast time of Dark Deal to 2 seconds and reduce it's effectiveness by 25%. This ability is so ridiculous and is way too strong right now. It allows awful sorcs to have endless resources, and with the resource changes next patch, you can't have this strong of an ability to stay the way it is.

    Make these changes and mag sorc will be inline with all the other classes and we will see less players being carried by their class and broken abilities. I've played this game since launch, and I'm fed up with these sorcs and ZOS really has to do something about it. I'm probably the best magnb in the game, and nobody can touch me in a duel, especially on the PC NA server. I'm not some *** pug thats bad at the game, I'm a veteran that knows the changes that need to be made with this broken class. Cmon ZOS, I'm believing you will make these changes.

    A troll thread has been detected.
  • altemriel
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    We seriously need to nerf mag sorcs. They are way too strong in pvp right now. Too many players playing sorc that are getting carried by their class, they would get *** on if they played on any other class. Throughout the existence of eso, mag sorcs have always been the strongest class no mater what update. Every other class always had their highs and lows, but sorcs always stay OP. They even dominate in pve too. Why does zos feel the need to make sorcs this much better than everyone? In order to put mag sorc inline with other classes, I will make these suggestions:

    1. Reduce the damage of frags and all it's morphs by 25%. 10% isn't enough, this skill is way too strong and needs a nerf for once

    2.Reduce ALL shields by 33%. The shields in this game are ridiculous and they carry way too many players. Stop spamming wards and GET GUD.

    3. Increase the cost of crushing shock by 33%.
    Too many trribads spam the *** out of this ability that hits like a damn truck. L2P and GET GUD

    4. Reduce the damage of curse by 40% and have hit after 6 seconds, and again after 6 seconds. This ability is stupid OP and hits for way too much damage. An undodgable ability like this should not be able to hit this hard. Make it inline with POTL. GET GUD

    5. Increase cost of mines but 15% and reduce the damage by 50%.
    These mines hit like a *** truck and it blows my mind that an ability this strong is in the game. Way too many terribad sorcs just sit in their mines and get carried by them. L2P

    6. Reduce the damage of Eye of the Storm by 25%. Yes, I know this isn't a sorc ability, but it's way too *** strong and so many awful sorcs get carried by this ability. This is also a zerg player's best friend so please nerf the *** out of this morph.

    7. Increase the cast time of Dark Deal to 2 seconds and reduce it's effectiveness by 25%. This ability is so ridiculous and is way too strong right now. It allows awful sorcs to have endless resources, and with the resource changes next patch, you can't have this strong of an ability to stay the way it is.

    Make these changes and mag sorc will be inline with all the other classes and we will see less players being carried by their class and broken abilities. I've played this game since launch, and I'm fed up with these sorcs and ZOS really has to do something about it. I'm probably the best magnb in the game, and nobody can touch me in a duel, especially on the PC NA server. I'm not some *** pug thats bad at the game, I'm a veteran that knows the changes that need to be made with this broken class. Cmon ZOS, I'm believing you will make these changes.




    stop the nerfs!!!


    rather buff the other classes!!
  • Irylia
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    Irylia wrote: »
    Irylia wrote: »
    I will pay (100$) the person who tells me (finds out) who this person is.

    Requirements:
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    This is also "Le exposer" on yt, correct?


    You are perfect example of a player carried by your class.. you can't play anything else but sorc! You get *** on when you play any other class and it's humorous.

    Should you not play what you enjoy? There are clear weaknesses in a msorc and things that they cannot do that all stam can. Why do you think those top tier players are stam and stick to stam?

    I play stamdk, stam nb and I have magplars. I enjoy playing them every now and again and I do just fine on them. Easier for me to 1vx on stamdk than msorc tbh.

    What if I duel you on something other than msorc, will you come forth then?

    you take this game too seriously.. this post was to trigger players like you that treat this game like real life

    Some would say you treat this like real life based on your comments (yt/forums)

    The (best magblade NA) boy who cried troll.

    I'm guessing Alex Roos/hate night
    But enjoy your anonymity.
  • liviogc
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    We seriously need to nerf mag sorcs. They are way too strong in pvp right now. Too many players playing sorc that are getting carried by their class, they would get *** on if they played on any other class. Throughout the existence of eso, mag sorcs have always been the strongest class no mater what update. Every other class always had their highs and lows, but sorcs always stay OP. They even dominate in pve too. Why does zos feel the need to make sorcs this much better than everyone? In order to put mag sorc inline with other classes, I will make these suggestions:

    1. Reduce the damage of frags and all it's morphs by 25%. 10% isn't enough, this skill is way too strong and needs a nerf for once

    2.Reduce ALL shields by 33%. The shields in this game are ridiculous and they carry way too many players. Stop spamming wards and GET GUD.

    3. Increase the cost of crushing shock by 33%.
    Too many trribads spam the *** out of this ability that hits like a damn truck. L2P and GET GUD

    4. Reduce the damage of curse by 40% and have hit after 6 seconds, and again after 6 seconds. This ability is stupid OP and hits for way too much damage. An undodgable ability like this should not be able to hit this hard. Make it inline with POTL. GET GUD

    5. Increase cost of mines but 15% and reduce the damage by 50%.
    These mines hit like a *** truck and it blows my mind that an ability this strong is in the game. Way too many terribad sorcs just sit in their mines and get carried by them. L2P

    6. Reduce the damage of Eye of the Storm by 25%. Yes, I know this isn't a sorc ability, but it's way too *** strong and so many awful sorcs get carried by this ability. This is also a zerg player's best friend so please nerf the *** out of this morph.

    7. Increase the cast time of Dark Deal to 2 seconds and reduce it's effectiveness by 25%. This ability is so ridiculous and is way too strong right now. It allows awful sorcs to have endless resources, and with the resource changes next patch, you can't have this strong of an ability to stay the way it is.

    Make these changes and mag sorc will be inline with all the other classes and we will see less players being carried by their class and broken abilities. I've played this game since launch, and I'm fed up with these sorcs and ZOS really has to do something about it. I'm probably the best magnb in the game, and nobody can touch me in a duel, especially on the PC NA server. I'm not some *** pug thats bad at the game, I'm a veteran that knows the changes that need to be made with this broken class. Cmon ZOS, I'm believing you will make these changes.

    I see, clearly that you never played of sorcerer. Your suggestions will end with the class in pvp and pve. Sorcerer and full range, does not have the possibility to play heavy armor is the only thing that keeps him alive and the shield. The Sorcerer was not always op, so when I created one, it was a mockery of my guild, unique in every guild that did not play templar. All sorcerer abilities can be mitigated, curse strips with purge, including does not work on templar. Frags can be reflected and crushing shock strips 3k only. Dark deal is an exchange only works for the stamina sorcerer. Magic sorcerer needs stamina. I do not see these changes as equilibrium, but as end of sorcerer in pvp. In my view the ideal and create CP for pvp and pve this yes would balance everything.
  • acw37162
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    Good Lord

    If the OP is trolling I would actually think it was a decent troll post but sadly I believe he/she is serious and as a result just sigh heavily.
  • Durham
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    I have noticed less melee in PVP due to the power of range attacks in general... I see a definite shift especially on the test..... the nerf on frags means little lol .. after the nerf they still hit around the same or a little harder then live....
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  • Resipsa131
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    Jacozilla wrote: »
    If you say sorcs getting further nerfs will make you feel better, ok. But still doesn't deny or change your NB is still in weak position in ALL roles. Still doesn't change that you'll either be asked to jump on whatever class/build was #2 and is now #1 after the sorc nerf. You're still not playing your NB.

    If you want to play your NB in content you are claiming being excluded from - and the only change that happened was not an improvement of your situation but someone else getting dumped on so they are possibly in your same excluded situation, all you have is the same status quo. That's idiocy.

    Your car is broken down on side of road. You feel better not because your car is fixed but because other motorists have their cars zapped and are now also broken down on side of road with you. Takes a certain kind of mentality to admit that would make you a lot happier.
    MagSorcs are so far and away better in terms of DPS that the difference between Mag DKs and Mag NB would be such that I'd get to run my Magblade.

    A more appropriate analogy would be your Car is in a race and one Car gets rocket boosters and the rest don't. I'm asking for the rocket boosters to be taken off.

  • you_got_exposed
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    Irylia wrote: »
    Irylia wrote: »
    Irylia wrote: »
    I will pay (100$) the person who tells me (finds out) who this person is.

    Requirements:
    -@ name
    -Character name

    This is also "Le exposer" on yt, correct?


    You are perfect example of a player carried by your class.. you can't play anything else but sorc! You get *** on when you play any other class and it's humorous.

    Should you not play what you enjoy? There are clear weaknesses in a msorc and things that they cannot do that all stam can. Why do you think those top tier players are stam and stick to stam?

    I play stamdk, stam nb and I have magplars. I enjoy playing them every now and again and I do just fine on them. Easier for me to 1vx on stamdk than msorc tbh.

    What if I duel you on something other than msorc, will you come forth then?

    you take this game too seriously.. this post was to trigger players like you that treat this game like real life

    Some would say you treat this like real life based on your comments (yt/forums)

    The (best magblade NA) boy who cried troll.

    I'm guessing Alex Roos/hate night
    But enjoy your anonymity.

    Like I said, this was to trigger players like you and it worked. You take this game WAY too seriously since you get triggered over posts like this. You may be good but you're still the laughing stock of ESO since everyone knows the you and your friends treat this game like it's real life.
  • Irylia
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    Irylia wrote: »
    Irylia wrote: »
    Irylia wrote: »
    I will pay (100$) the person who tells me (finds out) who this person is.

    Requirements:
    -@ name
    -Character name

    This is also "Le exposer" on yt, correct?


    You are perfect example of a player carried by your class.. you can't play anything else but sorc! You get *** on when you play any other class and it's humorous.

    Should you not play what you enjoy? There are clear weaknesses in a msorc and things that they cannot do that all stam can. Why do you think those top tier players are stam and stick to stam?

    I play stamdk, stam nb and I have magplars. I enjoy playing them every now and again and I do just fine on them. Easier for me to 1vx on stamdk than msorc tbh.

    What if I duel you on something other than msorc, will you come forth then?

    you take this game too seriously.. this post was to trigger players like you that treat this game like real life

    Some would say you treat this like real life based on your comments (yt/forums)

    The (best magblade NA) boy who cried troll.

    I'm guessing Alex Roos/hate night
    But enjoy your anonymity.

    Like I said, this was to trigger players like you and it worked. You take this game WAY too seriously since you get triggered over posts like this. You may be good but you're still the laughing stock of ESO since everyone knows the you and your friends treat this game like it's real life.

    My apologies, I wasn't under the impression that anything I've said was "triggered". I genuinely think everyone would like to know who you are but you would rather hide behind anonymity. You saying I crutch on sorc is why I offered to fight on another class so you could see that I in fact do not crutch. Im also not magically triggered just because you say it in every comment. That's just like cod children yelling "you mad + you're salty". Repeating it doesn't make it so.
    Instead of these outrageous nerfs why don't you make them reasonable. There are multiple things that I could see being done about sorc but you also have to understand wards are all they have.

    *pats anon on head* it'll be okay sunny boy, your tummy is just upset right now.
  • Merlin13KAGL
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    Once again the Sorcerer Illuminati swoops in and launches a counterfactual campaign against this totally objective assessment from the reputable and unimpeachable @you_got_exposed

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    When those who stand up against The Sorc-igarchy are marginalized by society...
    ask yourself... who stands to gain?
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    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

    Earn it.

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  • Hutch679
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    8. Streak prevents the Sorcs from moving after they cast it.
    Nm, they already did that.

    You can't talk.. you're a haxus zerg player. You are whats wrong with eso.

    You can't talk, you come to the forums to complain about sorcs lol if you can't kill one then clearly it's a L2P issue.
  • Hutch679
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    SnubbS wrote: »
    The only issue with Sorcs is shields—it's only ever been shields. People (Like OP) are either totally lost, or are just so terrible at the game that they can't even pick up on what the real issue with the class is. The answer was not nerfing duration—the answer is to rework how shields work from a fundamental level and give Sorcs a heal. Damage shields as we know them shouldn't even be in the game—maybe they should provide a buff which reduces damage and increases healing for a short time—combine that with a decent class heal. The formula for how healing should work is in the game already—and that's Stambuilds/MagDK—there's no reason for another method of healing that circumvents things like Major/Minor defile, critting etc.

    Edit: My MagSorc is AvA 17, My MagDK is AvA 42—I'm hardly a "Tribad" who's maining magsorc.

    If shields were to be removed, then they would need to rework damage output significantly as well as the stealth mechanics for all characters. Especially nightblades! Each class has their own survivability techniques (maybe minus DKs it seems). Night blades should have a cool down on cloak, at least 3 to 5 seconds if shields were to be take away. Removing shields for a sorcs is essentially immediate death when being attacked in a cp campaign due to ridiculous damage stacking. In non cp campaign, shields are hardly a problem because they are seriously weakened without bastion and without having +40k magicka. The problem isn't shields, it's the champion point system... yet most people fail to recognize this.
  • Apherius
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    9)

    3. Increase the cost of crushing shock by 33%.
    Too many trribads spam the *** out of this ability that hits like a damn truck. L2P and GET GUD

    You clearly never play a sorc ,do you want us to just spam the crystal blast ? we don't have " spam ability " it's why we use this crushing shot .

    and instead of throw numer like " 33% " for give the impression to be a theory crafter , just L2P .
    Edited by Apherius on 12 May 2017 15:44
  • Hutch679
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    Irylia wrote: »
    Irylia wrote: »
    I will pay (100$) the person who tells me (finds out) who this person is.

    Requirements:
    -@ name
    -Character name

    This is also "Le exposer" on yt, correct?


    You are perfect example of a player carried by your class.. you can't play anything else but sorc! You get *** on when you play any other class and it's humorous.

    Should you not play what you enjoy? There are clear weaknesses in a msorc and things that they cannot do that all stam can. Why do you think those top tier players are stam and stick to stam?

    I play stamdk, stam nb and I have magplars. I enjoy playing them every now and again and I do just fine on them. Easier for me to 1vx on stamdk than msorc tbh.

    What if I duel you on something other than msorc, will you come forth then?

    you take this game too seriously.. this post was to trigger players like you that treat this game like real life

    If you intention is to post threads to "trigger" people then your forum privileges should be revoked. It's obvious you played a little pvp got killed several times by sorcs then went to the forum to complain and whine instead of making helpful suggestions... just stop.
    Edited by Hutch679 on 12 May 2017 15:34
  • Hutch679
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    Irylia wrote: »
    Irylia wrote: »
    Irylia wrote: »
    I will pay (100$) the person who tells me (finds out) who this person is.

    Requirements:
    -@ name
    -Character name

    This is also "Le exposer" on yt, correct?


    You are perfect example of a player carried by your class.. you can't play anything else but sorc! You get *** on when you play any other class and it's humorous.

    Should you not play what you enjoy? There are clear weaknesses in a msorc and things that they cannot do that all stam can. Why do you think those top tier players are stam and stick to stam?

    I play stamdk, stam nb and I have magplars. I enjoy playing them every now and again and I do just fine on them. Easier for me to 1vx on stamdk than msorc tbh.

    What if I duel you on something other than msorc, will you come forth then?

    you take this game too seriously.. this post was to trigger players like you that treat this game like real life

    Some would say you treat this like real life based on your comments (yt/forums)

    The (best magblade NA) boy who cried troll.

    I'm guessing Alex Roos/hate night
    But enjoy your anonymity.

    Like I said, this was to trigger players like you and it worked. You take this game WAY too seriously since you get triggered over posts like this. You may be good but you're still the laughing stock of ESO since everyone knows the you and your friends treat this game like it's real life.

    Clearly you take it seriously lol burning your fingers typing these flame posts. It's comedy how you are constantly reneging in all your responses
  • Trinity_Is_My_Name
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    Yet another nerf Sorc thread. Haven't you Nerfers done enough damage to ESO? Stop the whining and complaining about a class/playstyle that beats you. Many have learned how to beat Mag Sorcs and post it constantly yet you Sorc Nerfers just never stop.
  • Trinity_Is_My_Name
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    Ok this is a prime example of "PVP IS TOO BROKEN PLS NERF" that *** PvE.

    1) No, frags make a sorc unique. Yeah they may be op in PvP but so is radiant, leap, and lots of other abilities. Learn to play around getting fragged down.

    2) Sorcs can shield stack, but nerfing shields specifically for sorcs hurts other classes. And hit harness in a VSO ad pull and tell me it needs to be nerfed.

    3) Why? Maybe I'm just uninformed, but I've never had problems with this and have no idea why it's even a complaint.

    4) Yeah, no. Curse is also a staple of sorcs in PvE, this would be a huge hit. Might as well use *** Volcanic rune.

    5) These aren't used at all (except maybe to dump magic in vso) in PvE, and I don't play sorcs in PvP but I don't care about this one. 50% damage reduction seems a bit extreme though, they do hit hard but have you tried maybe...just not going into them? they're bright and shiny.

    6) No, make it blockable.

    7) Longer cast time or reduction would be fine, both seems a bit much. 2 seconds might make this literally unusable during any encounter.

    Sorcs are already way too strong in pve.. they need a nerf there too but I truly don't care about pve. Pve is for players that are not good enough to pvp. No skill involved since everyone runs the same setup. It's just really who memorizes mechanics and rotations on npcs that do the same mechanics everytime.

    I can't speak for all platforms, but for Xbox some of the best PvPers are also some of the best Pvers. It's not about being good at one or the other, it's about being good at the game. If you understand PvE and how it works, PvP is rather simple to grasp. Sure there's those that are good at PvE but not so great at PvP, admittedly I'm one such player. I can hold my own and I don't get bowled over every time but I'm not going to 1vx 10 people or win every duel I'm in.

    And the statement about just memorizing mechanics and rotations is mindbogglingly ignorant. If it was so easy, end game Pvers wouldn't be referred to as "the 1%."

    "endgame pvers reffered to as the 1%" LOL nobody cares about pve.. that's why theres such a small amount of people that put that much time into grinding for gear and memorizing mechanics. You are the few eso players that care enough about pve to put that much time into it.

    PVE dominates ESO. PVP is the minority of players in ESO.
  • Apherius
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    can we talk about Dk tank , and templar heal ? I'am sure that if i ask for a nerf because other class ( sorc tank ect ... ) are not As Op as the dk tank or the templar heal ... you will say me that it's not same and that they just should up or make viable other classe in tanking or healing role .
    But it's currently not the case , Templar stay and will stay the best healer ( maybe the warden soon , but this don't change anythin ) , Dk will stay the Best Tank , But sorc just deserve nerf because they are currently the Best DD's ... do something guys ,open your eyes ... they just need to do something about nb ... poor nb...
  • LordSlif
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    This rage is so ridiculous, you didn't show any arguments or real reasons for a nerf, you just yelled like a child. im sure ZOS won't make anything you said
  • TheBonesXXX
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    Every time another player calls for a nerf in a game you cannot see what you are doing to the industry, the game, and the community.

    This cycle creates the imbalance, it makes one class seemingly stronger than the rest. It creates the meta, which gives everyone the illusion that they're a good player.

    The other classes are lacking, a few styles within a class have a complete kit . Stop beating everything into the ground.

    Let me give you an example about a proposed changed that actually does make sense, if AoEs hit to hard vs a single target, the advocate for AoEs to be incremental and their strength increases the more people the AoE hits.

    The above example is not a nerf, its actually a balanced proposal; busts up zergs, doesn't ruin small scale and 1 v X.



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  • montiferus
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    MagSorc is over powered in both PVE and PVP. That said the nerfs you outline are WAY over the top. It would destroy the class. Also since when does crushing shock hit hard? Frags and Mages wrath yeah but crushing shock?

    If you could crit shields, remove the second proc on curse and nerf dark exchange I think that would be effective without hurting PVE significantly. When I run trials the majority of the DDs are sorcs and its getting a little old. MagDK and Templar are very close in DPS while Magblade needs a buff and Magsorc needs a decent nerf. There is NO reason one class should do roughly 20% more DPS. Just doesn't make sense.
  • NyassaV
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    The only reason I disagree is because you kept saying 'get gud' but otherwise I support this. I was going to argue to leave frags alone but I don't care anymore
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  • Apherius
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    montiferus wrote: »
    MagSorc is over powered in both PVE and PVP. That said the nerfs you outline are WAY over the top. It would destroy the class. Also since when does crushing shock hit hard? Frags and Mages wrath yeah but crushing shock?

    If you could crit shields, remove the second proc on curse and nerf dark exchange I think that would be effective without hurting PVE significantly. When I run trials the majority of the DDs are sorcs and its getting a little old. MagDK and Templar are very close in DPS while Magblade needs a buff and Magsorc needs a decent nerf. There is NO reason one class should do roughly 20% more DPS. Just doesn't make sense.

    Oh ! again a person who never played sorc .

    The second proc of curse is useless in pve and pvp , only some pople use it because it's too hard for them to have a perfect rotation with the first proc of curse .
    when you put your curse on an ennemie or an mobs , you have to wait 3,5 sec for the first proc . Personnaly i put an other curse after the first proc ,but if you want you can wait 8,5 sec for the second proc , 4 more second for an other proc with the same damage .

    why do you want to remove this second proc ? it's useless for veteran / hl players , same in PVP , it's only useful when you start to play a sorc and don't have an " perfect " rotation .

    Do you know that if they nerf dark deal , they will make the Mag/stam sorc tank more useless than he is already in PVE ?
    No you wasn't know that , it's the Only skill that make sorcerer a little viable for tank dungeon or Trials . You are part of people who only think of the Dps side of class . doesn't matter if this destroy builds as long as you can have the Best dps by asking of nerf of the other classes .

    Now try to tank or heal a Hl raid with a sorc , you will see that is not so " overpowered " , compare to the other classe ( except nb ::/ ) who can tank or heal AND dps perfectly . There is no reason one class should be the best heal ( templar ) and an other the best tank ( dk ) , buts it's the case , so .. why the sorcerer should not be the best dps class ?

    Not everyone playing magsorc while 95%+ of Hl players play with a templar for heal and an dk for tank .
    Edited by Apherius on 12 May 2017 18:09
  • FearlessOne_2014
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    Irylia wrote: »
    Irylia wrote: »
    Irylia wrote: »
    I will pay (100$) the person who tells me (finds out) who this person is.

    Requirements:
    -@ name
    -Character name

    This is also "Le exposer" on yt, correct?


    You are perfect example of a player carried by your class.. you can't play anything else but sorc! You get *** on when you play any other class and it's humorous.

    Should you not play what you enjoy? There are clear weaknesses in a msorc and things that they cannot do that all stam can. Why do you think those top tier players are stam and stick to stam?

    I play stamdk, stam nb and I have magplars. I enjoy playing them every now and again and I do just fine on them. Easier for me to 1vx on stamdk than msorc tbh.

    What if I duel you on something other than msorc, will you come forth then?

    you take this game too seriously.. this post was to trigger players like you that treat this game like real life

    Some would say you treat this like real life based on your comments (yt/forums)

    The (best magblade NA) boy who cried troll.

    I'm guessing Alex Roos/hate night
    But enjoy your anonymity.

    Like I said, this was to trigger players like you and it worked. You take this game WAY too seriously since you get triggered over posts like this. You may be good but you're still the laughing stock of ESO since everyone knows the you and your friends treat this game like it's real life.

    Can you teach me senpi your masterful art of trolling. Because wow I must give you a applause for this command performance. In which you had so many dancing to your fiddle. Bravo Well Played.

    That's what I want to say. However you just confirmed to everyone with this, poor attempt at reverse psychology. That you wasn't actually trolling but was serious. :scream: You nearly had it kid. All you had to do was just let these people soak in their salt. But no you had to go and ruined it. :frowning:

    @FearlessOne_2014 is crying on the inside atm at this wasted troll attempt. That was brilliant might I add all the way up until that point. :unamused:

    But what ever better luck next time :wink:
  • Dk_needs_a_buff
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    We seriously need to nerf mag sorcs. They are way too strong in pvp right now. Too many players playing sorc that are getting carried by their class, they would get *** on if they played on any other class. Throughout the existence of eso, mag sorcs have always been the strongest class no mater what update. Every other class always had their highs and lows, but sorcs always stay OP. They even dominate in pve too. Why does zos feel the need to make sorcs this much better than everyone? In order to put mag sorc inline with other classes, I will make these suggestions:

    1. Reduce the damage of frags and all it's morphs by 25%. 10% isn't enough, this skill is way too strong and needs a nerf for once

    2.Reduce ALL shields by 33%. The shields in this game are ridiculous and they carry way too many players. Stop spamming wards and GET GUD.

    3. Increase the cost of crushing shock by 33%.
    Too many trribads spam the *** out of this ability that hits like a damn truck. L2P and GET GUD

    4. Reduce the damage of curse by 40% and have hit after 6 seconds, and again after 6 seconds. This ability is stupid OP and hits for way too much damage. An undodgable ability like this should not be able to hit this hard. Make it inline with POTL. GET GUD

    5. Increase cost of mines but 15% and reduce the damage by 50%.
    These mines hit like a *** truck and it blows my mind that an ability this strong is in the game. Way too many terribad sorcs just sit in their mines and get carried by them. L2P

    6. Reduce the damage of Eye of the Storm by 25%. Yes, I know this isn't a sorc ability, but it's way too *** strong and so many awful sorcs get carried by this ability. This is also a zerg player's best friend so please nerf the *** out of this morph.

    7. Increase the cast time of Dark Deal to 2 seconds and reduce it's effectiveness by 25%. This ability is so ridiculous and is way too strong right now. It allows awful sorcs to have endless resources, and with the resource changes next patch, you can't have this strong of an ability to stay the way it is.

    Make these changes and mag sorc will be inline with all the other classes and we will see less players being carried by their class and broken abilities. I've played this game since launch, and I'm fed up with these sorcs and ZOS really has to do something about it. I'm probably the best magnb in the game, and nobody can touch me in a duel, especially on the PC NA server. I'm not some *** pug thats bad at the game, I'm a veteran that knows the changes that need to be made with this broken class. Cmon ZOS, I'm believing you will make these changes.

    So what you mean is make sorc way way way underpowered?.

    If you cant burat through a sorcs shield then you need to get new sets. L2p
  • Dk_needs_a_buff
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