QuebraRegra wrote: »howbout we just un-nerf everything else?
you_got_exposed wrote: »We seriously need to nerf mag sorcs. They are way too strong in pvp right now. Too many players playing sorc that are getting carried by their class, they would get *** on if they played on any other class. Throughout the existence of eso, mag sorcs have always been the strongest class no mater what update. Every other class always had their highs and lows, but sorcs always stay OP. They even dominate in pve too. Why does zos feel the need to make sorcs this much better than everyone? In order to put mag sorc inline with other classes, I will make these suggestions:
1. Reduce the damage of frags and all it's morphs by 25%. 10% isn't enough, this skill is way too strong and needs a nerf for once
2.Reduce ALL shields by 33%. The shields in this game are ridiculous and they carry way too many players. Stop spamming wards and GET GUD.
3. Increase the cost of crushing shock by 33%. Too many trribads spam the *** out of this ability that hits like a damn truck. L2P and GET GUD
4. Reduce the damage of curse by 40% and have hit after 6 seconds, and again after 6 seconds. This ability is stupid OP and hits for way too much damage. An undodgable ability like this should not be able to hit this hard. Make it inline with POTL. GET GUD
5. Increase cost of mines but 15% and reduce the damage by 50%. These mines hit like a *** truck and it blows my mind that an ability this strong is in the game. Way too many terribad sorcs just sit in their mines and get carried by them. L2P
6. Reduce the damage of Eye of the Storm by 25%. Yes, I know this isn't a sorc ability, but it's way too *** strong and so many awful sorcs get carried by this ability. This is also a zerg player's best friend so please nerf the *** out of this morph.
7. Increase the cast time of Dark Deal to 2 seconds and reduce it's effectiveness by 25%. This ability is so ridiculous and is way too strong right now. It allows awful sorcs to have endless resources, and with the resource changes next patch, you can't have this strong of an ability to stay the way it is.
Make these changes and mag sorc will be inline with all the other classes and we will see less players being carried by their class and broken abilities. I've played this game since launch, and I'm fed up with these sorcs and ZOS really has to do something about it. I'm probably the best magnb in the game, and nobody can touch me in a duel, especially on the PC NA server. I'm not some *** pug thats bad at the game, I'm a veteran that knows the changes that need to be made with this broken class. Cmon ZOS, I'm believing you will make these changes.
you_got_exposed wrote: »We seriously need to nerf mag sorcs. They are way too strong in pvp right now. Too many players playing sorc that are getting carried by their class, they would get *** on if they played on any other class. Throughout the existence of eso, mag sorcs have always been the strongest class no mater what update. Every other class always had their highs and lows, but sorcs always stay OP. They even dominate in pve too. Why does zos feel the need to make sorcs this much better than everyone? In order to put mag sorc inline with other classes, I will make these suggestions:
1. Reduce the damage of frags and all it's morphs by 25%. 10% isn't enough, this skill is way too strong and needs a nerf for once
2.Reduce ALL shields by 33%. The shields in this game are ridiculous and they carry way too many players. Stop spamming wards and GET GUD.
3. Increase the cost of crushing shock by 33%. Too many trribads spam the *** out of this ability that hits like a damn truck. L2P and GET GUD
4. Reduce the damage of curse by 40% and have hit after 6 seconds, and again after 6 seconds. This ability is stupid OP and hits for way too much damage. An undodgable ability like this should not be able to hit this hard. Make it inline with POTL. GET GUD
5. Increase cost of mines but 15% and reduce the damage by 50%. These mines hit like a *** truck and it blows my mind that an ability this strong is in the game. Way too many terribad sorcs just sit in their mines and get carried by them. L2P
6. Reduce the damage of Eye of the Storm by 25%. Yes, I know this isn't a sorc ability, but it's way too *** strong and so many awful sorcs get carried by this ability. This is also a zerg player's best friend so please nerf the *** out of this morph.
7. Increase the cast time of Dark Deal to 2 seconds and reduce it's effectiveness by 25%. This ability is so ridiculous and is way too strong right now. It allows awful sorcs to have endless resources, and with the resource changes next patch, you can't have this strong of an ability to stay the way it is.
Make these changes and mag sorc will be inline with all the other classes and we will see less players being carried by their class and broken abilities. I've played this game since launch, and I'm fed up with these sorcs and ZOS really has to do something about it. I'm probably the best magnb in the game, and nobody can touch me in a duel, especially on the PC NA server. I'm not some *** pug thats bad at the game, I'm a veteran that knows the changes that need to be made with this broken class. Cmon ZOS, I'm believing you will make these changes.
you_got_exposed wrote: »you_got_exposed wrote: »I will pay (100$) the person who tells me (finds out) who this person is.
Requirements:
-@ name
-Character name
This is also "Le exposer" on yt, correct?
You are perfect example of a player carried by your class.. you can't play anything else but sorc! You get *** on when you play any other class and it's humorous.
Should you not play what you enjoy? There are clear weaknesses in a msorc and things that they cannot do that all stam can. Why do you think those top tier players are stam and stick to stam?
I play stamdk, stam nb and I have magplars. I enjoy playing them every now and again and I do just fine on them. Easier for me to 1vx on stamdk than msorc tbh.
What if I duel you on something other than msorc, will you come forth then?
you take this game too seriously.. this post was to trigger players like you that treat this game like real life
you_got_exposed wrote: »We seriously need to nerf mag sorcs. They are way too strong in pvp right now. Too many players playing sorc that are getting carried by their class, they would get *** on if they played on any other class. Throughout the existence of eso, mag sorcs have always been the strongest class no mater what update. Every other class always had their highs and lows, but sorcs always stay OP. They even dominate in pve too. Why does zos feel the need to make sorcs this much better than everyone? In order to put mag sorc inline with other classes, I will make these suggestions:
1. Reduce the damage of frags and all it's morphs by 25%. 10% isn't enough, this skill is way too strong and needs a nerf for once
2.Reduce ALL shields by 33%. The shields in this game are ridiculous and they carry way too many players. Stop spamming wards and GET GUD.
3. Increase the cost of crushing shock by 33%. Too many trribads spam the *** out of this ability that hits like a damn truck. L2P and GET GUD
4. Reduce the damage of curse by 40% and have hit after 6 seconds, and again after 6 seconds. This ability is stupid OP and hits for way too much damage. An undodgable ability like this should not be able to hit this hard. Make it inline with POTL. GET GUD
5. Increase cost of mines but 15% and reduce the damage by 50%. These mines hit like a *** truck and it blows my mind that an ability this strong is in the game. Way too many terribad sorcs just sit in their mines and get carried by them. L2P
6. Reduce the damage of Eye of the Storm by 25%. Yes, I know this isn't a sorc ability, but it's way too *** strong and so many awful sorcs get carried by this ability. This is also a zerg player's best friend so please nerf the *** out of this morph.
7. Increase the cast time of Dark Deal to 2 seconds and reduce it's effectiveness by 25%. This ability is so ridiculous and is way too strong right now. It allows awful sorcs to have endless resources, and with the resource changes next patch, you can't have this strong of an ability to stay the way it is.
Make these changes and mag sorc will be inline with all the other classes and we will see less players being carried by their class and broken abilities. I've played this game since launch, and I'm fed up with these sorcs and ZOS really has to do something about it. I'm probably the best magnb in the game, and nobody can touch me in a duel, especially on the PC NA server. I'm not some *** pug thats bad at the game, I'm a veteran that knows the changes that need to be made with this broken class. Cmon ZOS, I'm believing you will make these changes.
MagSorcs are so far and away better in terms of DPS that the difference between Mag DKs and Mag NB would be such that I'd get to run my Magblade.If you say sorcs getting further nerfs will make you feel better, ok. But still doesn't deny or change your NB is still in weak position in ALL roles. Still doesn't change that you'll either be asked to jump on whatever class/build was #2 and is now #1 after the sorc nerf. You're still not playing your NB.
If you want to play your NB in content you are claiming being excluded from - and the only change that happened was not an improvement of your situation but someone else getting dumped on so they are possibly in your same excluded situation, all you have is the same status quo. That's idiocy.
Your car is broken down on side of road. You feel better not because your car is fixed but because other motorists have their cars zapped and are now also broken down on side of road with you. Takes a certain kind of mentality to admit that would make you a lot happier.
you_got_exposed wrote: »you_got_exposed wrote: »I will pay (100$) the person who tells me (finds out) who this person is.
Requirements:
-@ name
-Character name
This is also "Le exposer" on yt, correct?
You are perfect example of a player carried by your class.. you can't play anything else but sorc! You get *** on when you play any other class and it's humorous.
Should you not play what you enjoy? There are clear weaknesses in a msorc and things that they cannot do that all stam can. Why do you think those top tier players are stam and stick to stam?
I play stamdk, stam nb and I have magplars. I enjoy playing them every now and again and I do just fine on them. Easier for me to 1vx on stamdk than msorc tbh.
What if I duel you on something other than msorc, will you come forth then?
you take this game too seriously.. this post was to trigger players like you that treat this game like real life
Some would say you treat this like real life based on your comments (yt/forums)
The (best magblade NA) boy who cried troll.
I'm guessing Alex Roos/hate night
But enjoy your anonymity.
you_got_exposed wrote: »you_got_exposed wrote: »you_got_exposed wrote: »I will pay (100$) the person who tells me (finds out) who this person is.
Requirements:
-@ name
-Character name
This is also "Le exposer" on yt, correct?
You are perfect example of a player carried by your class.. you can't play anything else but sorc! You get *** on when you play any other class and it's humorous.
Should you not play what you enjoy? There are clear weaknesses in a msorc and things that they cannot do that all stam can. Why do you think those top tier players are stam and stick to stam?
I play stamdk, stam nb and I have magplars. I enjoy playing them every now and again and I do just fine on them. Easier for me to 1vx on stamdk than msorc tbh.
What if I duel you on something other than msorc, will you come forth then?
you take this game too seriously.. this post was to trigger players like you that treat this game like real life
Some would say you treat this like real life based on your comments (yt/forums)
The (best magblade NA) boy who cried troll.
I'm guessing Alex Roos/hate night
But enjoy your anonymity.
Like I said, this was to trigger players like you and it worked. You take this game WAY too seriously since you get triggered over posts like this. You may be good but you're still the laughing stock of ESO since everyone knows the you and your friends treat this game like it's real life.
@MisterBigglesworth, the pic didn't show up the first time through. I was scared for a moment this might not be satire.MisterBigglesworth wrote: »Once again the Sorcerer Illuminati swoops in and launches a counterfactual campaign against this totally objective assessment from the reputable and unimpeachable @you_got_exposed
When those who stand up against The Sorc-igarchy are marginalized by society...
ask yourself... who stands to gain?
#nerfsorc2017
you_got_exposed wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »8. Streak prevents the Sorcs from moving after they cast it.
Nm, they already did that.
You can't talk.. you're a haxus zerg player. You are whats wrong with eso.
The only issue with Sorcs is shields—it's only ever been shields. People (Like OP) are either totally lost, or are just so terrible at the game that they can't even pick up on what the real issue with the class is. The answer was not nerfing duration—the answer is to rework how shields work from a fundamental level and give Sorcs a heal. Damage shields as we know them shouldn't even be in the game—maybe they should provide a buff which reduces damage and increases healing for a short time—combine that with a decent class heal. The formula for how healing should work is in the game already—and that's Stambuilds/MagDK—there's no reason for another method of healing that circumvents things like Major/Minor defile, critting etc.
Edit: My MagSorc is AvA 17, My MagDK is AvA 42—I'm hardly a "Tribad" who's maining magsorc.
you_got_exposed wrote: »
3. Increase the cost of crushing shock by 33%. Too many trribads spam the *** out of this ability that hits like a damn truck. L2P and GET GUD
you_got_exposed wrote: »you_got_exposed wrote: »I will pay (100$) the person who tells me (finds out) who this person is.
Requirements:
-@ name
-Character name
This is also "Le exposer" on yt, correct?
You are perfect example of a player carried by your class.. you can't play anything else but sorc! You get *** on when you play any other class and it's humorous.
Should you not play what you enjoy? There are clear weaknesses in a msorc and things that they cannot do that all stam can. Why do you think those top tier players are stam and stick to stam?
I play stamdk, stam nb and I have magplars. I enjoy playing them every now and again and I do just fine on them. Easier for me to 1vx on stamdk than msorc tbh.
What if I duel you on something other than msorc, will you come forth then?
you take this game too seriously.. this post was to trigger players like you that treat this game like real life
you_got_exposed wrote: »you_got_exposed wrote: »you_got_exposed wrote: »I will pay (100$) the person who tells me (finds out) who this person is.
Requirements:
-@ name
-Character name
This is also "Le exposer" on yt, correct?
You are perfect example of a player carried by your class.. you can't play anything else but sorc! You get *** on when you play any other class and it's humorous.
Should you not play what you enjoy? There are clear weaknesses in a msorc and things that they cannot do that all stam can. Why do you think those top tier players are stam and stick to stam?
I play stamdk, stam nb and I have magplars. I enjoy playing them every now and again and I do just fine on them. Easier for me to 1vx on stamdk than msorc tbh.
What if I duel you on something other than msorc, will you come forth then?
you take this game too seriously.. this post was to trigger players like you that treat this game like real life
Some would say you treat this like real life based on your comments (yt/forums)
The (best magblade NA) boy who cried troll.
I'm guessing Alex Roos/hate night
But enjoy your anonymity.
Like I said, this was to trigger players like you and it worked. You take this game WAY too seriously since you get triggered over posts like this. You may be good but you're still the laughing stock of ESO since everyone knows the you and your friends treat this game like it's real life.
you_got_exposed wrote: »DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »you_got_exposed wrote: »DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »Ok this is a prime example of "PVP IS TOO BROKEN PLS NERF" that *** PvE.
1) No, frags make a sorc unique. Yeah they may be op in PvP but so is radiant, leap, and lots of other abilities. Learn to play around getting fragged down.
2) Sorcs can shield stack, but nerfing shields specifically for sorcs hurts other classes. And hit harness in a VSO ad pull and tell me it needs to be nerfed.
3) Why? Maybe I'm just uninformed, but I've never had problems with this and have no idea why it's even a complaint.
4) Yeah, no. Curse is also a staple of sorcs in PvE, this would be a huge hit. Might as well use *** Volcanic rune.
5) These aren't used at all (except maybe to dump magic in vso) in PvE, and I don't play sorcs in PvP but I don't care about this one. 50% damage reduction seems a bit extreme though, they do hit hard but have you tried maybe...just not going into them? they're bright and shiny.
6) No, make it blockable.
7) Longer cast time or reduction would be fine, both seems a bit much. 2 seconds might make this literally unusable during any encounter.
Sorcs are already way too strong in pve.. they need a nerf there too but I truly don't care about pve. Pve is for players that are not good enough to pvp. No skill involved since everyone runs the same setup. It's just really who memorizes mechanics and rotations on npcs that do the same mechanics everytime.
I can't speak for all platforms, but for Xbox some of the best PvPers are also some of the best Pvers. It's not about being good at one or the other, it's about being good at the game. If you understand PvE and how it works, PvP is rather simple to grasp. Sure there's those that are good at PvE but not so great at PvP, admittedly I'm one such player. I can hold my own and I don't get bowled over every time but I'm not going to 1vx 10 people or win every duel I'm in.
And the statement about just memorizing mechanics and rotations is mindbogglingly ignorant. If it was so easy, end game Pvers wouldn't be referred to as "the 1%."
"endgame pvers reffered to as the 1%" LOL nobody cares about pve.. that's why theres such a small amount of people that put that much time into grinding for gear and memorizing mechanics. You are the few eso players that care enough about pve to put that much time into it.
montiferus wrote: »MagSorc is over powered in both PVE and PVP. That said the nerfs you outline are WAY over the top. It would destroy the class. Also since when does crushing shock hit hard? Frags and Mages wrath yeah but crushing shock?
If you could crit shields, remove the second proc on curse and nerf dark exchange I think that would be effective without hurting PVE significantly. When I run trials the majority of the DDs are sorcs and its getting a little old. MagDK and Templar are very close in DPS while Magblade needs a buff and Magsorc needs a decent nerf. There is NO reason one class should do roughly 20% more DPS. Just doesn't make sense.
you_got_exposed wrote: »you_got_exposed wrote: »you_got_exposed wrote: »I will pay (100$) the person who tells me (finds out) who this person is.
Requirements:
-@ name
-Character name
This is also "Le exposer" on yt, correct?
You are perfect example of a player carried by your class.. you can't play anything else but sorc! You get *** on when you play any other class and it's humorous.
Should you not play what you enjoy? There are clear weaknesses in a msorc and things that they cannot do that all stam can. Why do you think those top tier players are stam and stick to stam?
I play stamdk, stam nb and I have magplars. I enjoy playing them every now and again and I do just fine on them. Easier for me to 1vx on stamdk than msorc tbh.
What if I duel you on something other than msorc, will you come forth then?
you take this game too seriously.. this post was to trigger players like you that treat this game like real life
Some would say you treat this like real life based on your comments (yt/forums)
The (best magblade NA) boy who cried troll.
I'm guessing Alex Roos/hate night
But enjoy your anonymity.
Like I said, this was to trigger players like you and it worked. You take this game WAY too seriously since you get triggered over posts like this. You may be good but you're still the laughing stock of ESO since everyone knows the you and your friends treat this game like it's real life.
you_got_exposed wrote: »We seriously need to nerf mag sorcs. They are way too strong in pvp right now. Too many players playing sorc that are getting carried by their class, they would get *** on if they played on any other class. Throughout the existence of eso, mag sorcs have always been the strongest class no mater what update. Every other class always had their highs and lows, but sorcs always stay OP. They even dominate in pve too. Why does zos feel the need to make sorcs this much better than everyone? In order to put mag sorc inline with other classes, I will make these suggestions:
1. Reduce the damage of frags and all it's morphs by 25%. 10% isn't enough, this skill is way too strong and needs a nerf for once
2.Reduce ALL shields by 33%. The shields in this game are ridiculous and they carry way too many players. Stop spamming wards and GET GUD.
3. Increase the cost of crushing shock by 33%. Too many trribads spam the *** out of this ability that hits like a damn truck. L2P and GET GUD
4. Reduce the damage of curse by 40% and have hit after 6 seconds, and again after 6 seconds. This ability is stupid OP and hits for way too much damage. An undodgable ability like this should not be able to hit this hard. Make it inline with POTL. GET GUD
5. Increase cost of mines but 15% and reduce the damage by 50%. These mines hit like a *** truck and it blows my mind that an ability this strong is in the game. Way too many terribad sorcs just sit in their mines and get carried by them. L2P
6. Reduce the damage of Eye of the Storm by 25%. Yes, I know this isn't a sorc ability, but it's way too *** strong and so many awful sorcs get carried by this ability. This is also a zerg player's best friend so please nerf the *** out of this morph.
7. Increase the cast time of Dark Deal to 2 seconds and reduce it's effectiveness by 25%. This ability is so ridiculous and is way too strong right now. It allows awful sorcs to have endless resources, and with the resource changes next patch, you can't have this strong of an ability to stay the way it is.
Make these changes and mag sorc will be inline with all the other classes and we will see less players being carried by their class and broken abilities. I've played this game since launch, and I'm fed up with these sorcs and ZOS really has to do something about it. I'm probably the best magnb in the game, and nobody can touch me in a duel, especially on the PC NA server. I'm not some *** pug thats bad at the game, I'm a veteran that knows the changes that need to be made with this broken class. Cmon ZOS, I'm believing you will make these changes.