No storage crates in the housing??? You can not be serious ZOS!!!!

YeOldeGamer

Khaos_Bane wrote: »

Are you kidding me? No storage? Housing is absolutely ridiculous and pointless if there is no storage.

pRINCESSGEMMA

Flaminir wrote: »

Storage in the houses (Bought for gold) would detract a little from the desirability of craft bags via ESO+ to help with the storage issues.

ZOS needs predictable regular revenue and craft bags are the big draw for ESO + right now... as such I'd be surprised if they did anything to make those less needed/desirable, especially for in game gold, as this will impact the regular revenue stream which is what they need most to carry on.

Not saying I agree with it.... but this would be a big reason when looking at it from a business perspective.

It makes sense when you think about it... I feel in-house storage should be an eso+ perk.

PS4_ZeColmeia

bellanca6561n wrote: »

There will never again be housing like Ultima Online that was part of the game world itself and allowed you to store thousands and thousands of items in a completely customized house.

The scheme they have looks good to me, frankly. Plus it's months away and a bit soon for strings of exclamation marks.

Uo the start of my addiction

Pallmor

Qyrk wrote: »

Attention everyone and @altemriel

You guys are speaking too soon. Extra storage did not make the cut as they want to implement the base housing patch. There WILL be extra storage in the future. Check the dev tracker.

If they had really wanted to include it, they would have. It actually probably took more effort for them to turn off the storage capability of chests/dressers/etc. and just make them cosmetic than it would have to just leave them the way they are and let players add stuff to them.

I strongly suspect they only did this to encourage people to keep subbing for their crafting bags. They left open the possibility of adding it in later because they knew there might be a backlash against not including storage and so they're taking a "wait and see if they accept this or not" approach. If not too many people complain about it, storage will probably never be added. If people get up in arms about it, you can bet they'll add it in later and claim they planned this all along.

summitxho

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

summitxho wrote: »

I don't think storage should be included with the house, as others have said it would make upgrading bank space pointless, and make upgrading your bag almost pointless, the game needs things to spend money on. I would like to see storage implemented, but with an in game cost of gold that costs the same, if not more than bank space, simply with a higher cap, maybe 500 or even 1000 items.

I also have to think of performance, the game already suffers a bit from performance issues, from my understanding with the instancing of housing combined with how many people like to hoard thousands of items, would encouraging even more hoarding not hurt performance and require more bandwidth?

While the thought of free storage with your house is a nice idea and realistic to real life, it makes less sense when you consider the negatives, I don't want millions of gold in my bank with nothing to spend it on, upgrading inventory space has been a huge drain on my gold keeping me poor until its complete, and I think its the right way to go about it.

I have 200 inv. Spots so I can continue to travel and loot. Housing storage would not hinder or make this better. It's typically stuff I sell/decon. How on Tamriel does this affect my inventory space?

Bank/inv. Space is a pathetic gold sink, it cost very little for the convenience of not coming back to town every so often.

Would housing storage actually cause performance issues or is that just an assumption?

1. People use inventory space for mules, add unlimited bank space and those mules are no longer necessary to upgrade negating in my opinion a deliberate gold sink.

2. Personally as a casual player after a year and a half, I have still not maxed out my bank space. If I was not buying bank space, not sure what else I would have used that gold for, in previous games I always had a ton of gold in the end with nothing really to spend it on, at least this continues to give me something to save towards and having to make decisions on what is important for me to spend my hard earned gold on. If you do not like gold sinks, that's fine with me, but the fact remains it would make bank space irrelevant, and also to many degrees bag space.

3. Its neither me stating performance issues or an assumption, it was a question hence the ? Would make sense, with more stuff to load for each person, the more bandwidth it would take to push that through to the user, but I am not claiming to be any kind of computer expert either so I was curious.

Betheny

Just need a chest to hold gear, have some bound gear I like to pass onto alts I level and it would be easier to keep it all in the same place and accessible to all my characters.

nagarjunna

No space? No house...

Pops_ND_Irish

Wow, not even out yet and its already started !

Just wait till Housing comes out
1) Too expensive
2) Not enough variety
3) Too many crowns
4) Not enough features
5) Yard too small
6) Not enough bathrooms
7) Electric bill too high
8) Yada, yada, yada

Enslaved

andreasranasen wrote: »

Really???? Youre saying 200 storage space on your character isnt enough? PLUS bank storage? ESO Plus? PLEASE

Its enough if you play a single char. Give me separate bank of 240 slots for each, and maybe 60 slots as "shared space" and Ill be a happy little camper.

Vaoh

MoTeets wrote: »

Wow, not even out yet and its already started !

Just wait till Housing comes out
1) Too expensive
2) Not enough variety
3) Too many crowns
4) Not enough features
5) Yard too small
6) Not enough bathrooms
7) Electric bill too high
8) Yada, yada, yada

9) All of my furniture is worthless as I cannot use it to store stuff.

Maybe complaints are legit sometimes? Usually when a huge system like Player Housing arrives you'd expect to.... oh I don't know.... be able to put your stuff in your house?

It's nice that a tiny minority of players like yourself could care less for a house to be able to store stuff, but that was the major selling point of Housing in pretty much any game. Storing stuff. ESO will have us wait 3+ months after Homestead launches to do this.

EDIT: Also No ETA....

Pops_ND_Irish

The tiny majority like to play the "game" !

Wouldn't matter what features are in housing, some people will always complain

Vaoh

MoTeets wrote: »

The tiny majority like to play the "game" !

Wouldn't matter what features are in housing, some people will always complain

Yes it does matter what features housing has. Some things are a must-have, while other things are just nice additions.

Storage is a must-have for a feature like Player Housing in an Elder Scrolls game. Some people complain when minor things they want don't come to the game, while many people are outraged when a key component of a system is not implemented.

Imagine if Maelstrom Arena released but Maelstrom Weapons and half of the Maelstrom sets weren't in yet. The most important part of content in question isn't even in-game, and ZOS says you need to wait 3+ months for it to arrive.

Player Housing is the equivalent. We will get the new content, but the biggest and most basic part of the new content will not arrive with it.

SickDuck

andreasranasen wrote: »

Really???? Youre saying 200 storage space on your character isnt enough? PLUS bank storage? ESO Plus? PLEASE

Sure it is,if you want to have toons named Stores-Your-Crabs-One and so on. If you want to use a character it can't carry more than 120-130 items (some of those will be utility stuff) so you can actually have space for loot.

With 1T introducing loads of new dropped sets it can easily overwhelm 12 alts. I currently use 9 alts for sets (the rest for non-gear storage) each carrying 12-15 type of sets. Boy it is a chore to manage stuff... I have my neat spreadsheet about who's carrying what and use addons to help with sorting but it still takes considerable amount of (wasted) time. And I only collect divines pieces and sharpened for weapons.

Vaoh

SickDuck wrote: »

andreasranasen wrote: »

Really???? Youre saying 200 storage space on your character isnt enough? PLUS bank storage? ESO Plus? PLEASE

Sure it is,if you want to have toons named Stores-Your-Crabs-One and so on. If you want to use a character it can't carry more than 120-130 items (some of those will be utility stuff) so you can actually have space for loot.

With 1T introducing loads of new dropped sets it can easily overwhelm 12 alts. I currently use 9 alts for sets (the rest for non-gear storage) each carrying 12-15 type of sets. Boy it is a chore to manage stuff... I have my neat spreadsheet about who's carrying what and use addons to help with sorting but it still takes considerable amount of (wasted) time. And I only collect divines pieces and sharpened for weapons.

Exactly the same as I do, except I do not have add-ons and have recently allowed my organization to crumble. Player Housing was supposed to provide the basic feature of storage.

Apparently not -_-

SickDuck

SanTii.92 wrote: »

Learn to manage inventory. Seriously it's not that hard.

No thank you. It may tickle your fancy but for me it's too much time wasted. I'm happy to manage it for a reasonable amount but currently it is out of hand.

FoolishHuman

SickDuck wrote: »

andreasranasen wrote: »

Really???? Youre saying 200 storage space on your character isnt enough? PLUS bank storage? ESO Plus? PLEASE

Sure it is,if you want to have toons named Stores-Your-Crabs-One and so on. If you want to use a character it can't carry more than 120-130 items (some of those will be utility stuff) so you can actually have space for loot.

With 1T introducing loads of new dropped sets it can easily overwhelm 12 alts. I currently use 9 alts for sets (the rest for non-gear storage) each carrying 12-15 type of sets. Boy it is a chore to manage stuff... I have my neat spreadsheet about who's carrying what and use addons to help with sorting but it still takes considerable amount of (wasted) time. And I only collect divines pieces and sharpened for weapons.

You don't need one of each set, most people just decon what they don't need. There is no requirement for storage characters if you play normally.
If they put storage into houses, many people will just unsubscribe. Give subscribers something else then or forget about storage in houses.

SickDuck

MoTeets wrote: »

The tiny majority like to play the "game" !

Wouldn't matter what features are in housing, some people will always complain

Itemization is part of the game ("game"?). Currently it causes storages issues which is not strictly related to housing but people hoped housing would give a solution. Even ZOS confirmed this will be added on a later date. Meanwhile increasing bank space could solve the problem.

Pandorii

FoolishHuman wrote: »

SickDuck wrote: »

andreasranasen wrote: »

Really???? Youre saying 200 storage space on your character isnt enough? PLUS bank storage? ESO Plus? PLEASE

Sure it is,if you want to have toons named Stores-Your-Crabs-One and so on. If you want to use a character it can't carry more than 120-130 items (some of those will be utility stuff) so you can actually have space for loot.

With 1T introducing loads of new dropped sets it can easily overwhelm 12 alts. I currently use 9 alts for sets (the rest for non-gear storage) each carrying 12-15 type of sets. Boy it is a chore to manage stuff... I have my neat spreadsheet about who's carrying what and use addons to help with sorting but it still takes considerable amount of (wasted) time. And I only collect divines pieces and sharpened for weapons.

You don't need one of each set, most people just decon what they don't need. There is no requirement for storage characters if you play normally.
If they put storage into houses, many people will just unsubscribe. Give subscribers something else then or forget about storage in houses.

Craft bag can only hold crafting material. Not to mention it can hold a ton of it. I don't see how adding limited storage would prevent subs. After all, there's a cap on how much furniture you can have and that's doubled if you subbed.

Armor stands. Weapon stands. Jewelry boxes. Pantries that can hold up to 1 stack of each ingredient. Tackle boxes for a limited amount of bait. I have 4k of each basic bait in my crafting bag. If I could store 1 stack of each in my house for finzies, safe keeping of investment, I would still need somewhere to put the 3.8k left. I have over 2000 fish and red meat. If I could put a stack in a pantry, I'd still have a use for the crafting bag. That said, what would be really nice is armor stands, since thats the serious problem with lack of space since 1t.

Unsent.Soul

FoolishHuman wrote: »

SickDuck wrote: »

andreasranasen wrote: »

Really???? Youre saying 200 storage space on your character isnt enough? PLUS bank storage? ESO Plus? PLEASE

Sure it is,if you want to have toons named Stores-Your-Crabs-One and so on. If you want to use a character it can't carry more than 120-130 items (some of those will be utility stuff) so you can actually have space for loot.

With 1T introducing loads of new dropped sets it can easily overwhelm 12 alts. I currently use 9 alts for sets (the rest for non-gear storage) each carrying 12-15 type of sets. Boy it is a chore to manage stuff... I have my neat spreadsheet about who's carrying what and use addons to help with sorting but it still takes considerable amount of (wasted) time. And I only collect divines pieces and sharpened for weapons.

You don't need one of each set, most people just decon what they don't need. There is no requirement for storage characters if you play normally.
If they put storage into houses, many people will just unsubscribe. Give subscribers something else then or forget about storage in houses.

[snip] You're confusing your own opinion with others. Speak for yourself.

[edited for baiting]

FoolishHuman

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

FoolishHuman wrote: »

SickDuck wrote: »

andreasranasen wrote: »

Really???? Youre saying 200 storage space on your character isnt enough? PLUS bank storage? ESO Plus? PLEASE

Sure it is,if you want to have toons named Stores-Your-Crabs-One and so on. If you want to use a character it can't carry more than 120-130 items (some of those will be utility stuff) so you can actually have space for loot.

With 1T introducing loads of new dropped sets it can easily overwhelm 12 alts. I currently use 9 alts for sets (the rest for non-gear storage) each carrying 12-15 type of sets. Boy it is a chore to manage stuff... I have my neat spreadsheet about who's carrying what and use addons to help with sorting but it still takes considerable amount of (wasted) time. And I only collect divines pieces and sharpened for weapons.

You don't need one of each set, most people just decon what they don't need. There is no requirement for storage characters if you play normally.
If they put storage into houses, many people will just unsubscribe. Give subscribers something else then or forget about storage in houses.

[snip] You're confusing your own opinion with others. Speak for yourself.

Ignorant is thinking that a house would mean getting a "warehouse". Houses should be cosmetic, nothing else was ever promised.

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Enslaved

FoolishHuman wrote: »

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

FoolishHuman wrote: »

SickDuck wrote: »

andreasranasen wrote: »

Really???? Youre saying 200 storage space on your character isnt enough? PLUS bank storage? ESO Plus? PLEASE

Sure it is,if you want to have toons named Stores-Your-Crabs-One and so on. If you want to use a character it can't carry more than 120-130 items (some of those will be utility stuff) so you can actually have space for loot.

With 1T introducing loads of new dropped sets it can easily overwhelm 12 alts. I currently use 9 alts for sets (the rest for non-gear storage) each carrying 12-15 type of sets. Boy it is a chore to manage stuff... I have my neat spreadsheet about who's carrying what and use addons to help with sorting but it still takes considerable amount of (wasted) time. And I only collect divines pieces and sharpened for weapons.

You don't need one of each set, most people just decon what they don't need. There is no requirement for storage characters if you play normally.
If they put storage into houses, many people will just unsubscribe. Give subscribers something else then or forget about storage in houses.

[snip] You're confusing your own opinion with others. Speak for yourself.

Ignorant is thinking that a house would mean getting a "warehouse". Houses should be cosmetic, nothing else was ever promised.

But if houses were made with storage, and bigger the house bigger the storage, ppl would spend fortune on them even paying crowns. This could make Zos serious cash without the need for con crates. I guess they really don't need money, right?

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altemriel

houses without storage - (my guess) - maybe 20 % of people (might be even less) would buy them
houses with storage - (my guess) - 95% of people would buy them!!!


@ZOS_RichLambert

Flynch

storage = visiting house = having house looking nice = buying stuff from store = profit.

It'll come, don't worry.

altemriel

Flynch wrote: »

storage = visiting house = having house looking nice = buying stuff from store = profit.

It'll come, don't worry.

well, it is pretty much a main feature, so let`s hope it will come soon and that it will not be crown store exclusive!!

Suter1972

altemriel wrote: »

houses without storage - (my guess) - maybe 20 % of people (might be even less) would buy them
houses with storage - (my guess) - 95% of people would buy them!!!


@ZOS_RichLambert

lets be fair, those percentage figures are just plucked out of thin air and are in no way representativee of the player base at all.

But to play the game, I'd 'guess' that 99% of the playerbase will want to buy a house when they get released, storage or not

Im happy to buy a house with no storage. Just for the immersion and fun of it. I wont be buying house just to dump all my crap I cant be brave enough to deconstruct.

Unsent.Soul

Suter1972 wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

houses without storage - (my guess) - maybe 20 % of people (might be even less) would buy them
houses with storage - (my guess) - 95% of people would buy them!!!


@ZOS_RichLambert

lets be fair, those percentage figures are just plucked out of thin air and are in no way representativee of the player base at all.

But to play the game, I'd 'guess' that 99% of the playerbase will want to buy a house when they get released, storage or not

Im happy to buy a house with no storage. Just for the immersion and fun of it. I wont be buying house just to dump all my crap I cant be brave enough to deconstruct.

You're last line there "be brave enough to decon" is 100% opinion. You assume people are afraid to decon items? Do you not realize the massive amount sets that were released with 1T? People have every right to collect items for use now, or later. It's now my fault that I collect set pieces, after 30+ sets were reintroduced into the game..... ? Really?

Elusiin

Gargath wrote: »

Storage containers in eso make sense only if not connected with crafting stations, bank, or personal inventory, so a completely separate containers for which you need to go and take from to have in inventory. Not working like craft bags but something fixed to the house.

I love this idea.. This would take less work for them too, since it wouldn't have to be connected to other inventories/crafting.

Suter1972

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

Suter1972 wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

houses without storage - (my guess) - maybe 20 % of people (might be even less) would buy them
houses with storage - (my guess) - 95% of people would buy them!!!


@ZOS_RichLambert

lets be fair, those percentage figures are just plucked out of thin air and are in no way representativee of the player base at all.

But to play the game, I'd 'guess' that 99% of the playerbase will want to buy a house when they get released, storage or not

Im happy to buy a house with no storage. Just for the immersion and fun of it. I wont be buying house just to dump all my crap I cant be brave enough to deconstruct.

You're last line there "be brave enough to decon" is 100% opinion. You assume people are afraid to decon items? Do you not realize the massive amount sets that were released with 1T? People have every right to collect items for use now, or later. It's now my fault that I collect set pieces, after 30+ sets were reintroduced into the game..... ? Really?

Of course its opinion, im speaking for me, not you or anyone else. Everything we all say on here is opinion. That's just a daft thing to highlight.

Yes, its totally your choice to collect 30+ sets of gear. If you haven't got anywhere to store it, then that's your issue.

Dubhliam

I am also a collector of many things, and yes... I can't hardly wait for storage space in houses.

But!
I always planned what I would save and store, and what I wouldn't. It requires intelligent inventory and bank management, not just mindless hoarding.

If you are relying on something to happen in the future (like extra storage), you just might become disappointed.
The way it is.

Cryptical

What is wrong with you people?

You act like nothing ever gets done in stages.