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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

How much unbuffed armor do you have in Cyrodiil?

Kutsuu
Kutsuu
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Please reply and let us know what class/type you play (ex. Stamina DK) and whether you have a source of Major Ward that you normally cast which would increase the unbuffed armor you answered for the poll.

Yes, I am using the results in order to kill you more efficiently.
Edited by Kutsuu on 5 November 2016 04:30
PC/NA

Envy Me - Sorc
Kutsus - NB
Kutsmuffin - Temp
Kutsuu the Destroyer - NB
Kutsuu - Temp
Natsu Dragoneel - DK
Kutsumo - NB

How much unbuffed armor do you have in Cyrodiil? 65 votes

11000 or less
15%
arkansas_ESOScamandrosOwnDerraSpliffoBandit1215TreeHugger1WhiteMageValykcoTheTownDrunk 10 votes
11001-13000
16%
DeHeiSodanTokDeanTheCatEdziuStrider_RoshinPC0523SkinzzOurOwnzuto40IzakiAAbrigo 11 votes
13001-15000
9%
XeniphTakes-No-PrisonerGreenSoup2HoTSkrrrt_YupThatsMealext89Galenus_of_Pergamon 6 votes
15001-18000
21%
StamdenkaithuzarnilldaxSorisSturgeHammerku5husmcjdkingTwistedThoughtzMetemsycosisKutsuuBrutusmax1musGet_Blazed613susmitdsthankyourat 14 votes
18000-20000
12%
AkinosKorprokDredlordRohausninjaguymanWarraxxMeetreihtizar 8 votes
20001 or more
24%
ArmitasLava_Croftced30Valen_ByteKetarmishShareeilmarxylenaMinnoimrednecksonraasdalmaxjapankNBrookusLokey0024Draven147mildlylucid 16 votes
  • raasdal
    raasdal
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    20001 or more
    7 Heavy StamSorc. Add Minor and Major Ward to that and it is about 26-27k on offensive and 29-30k on defensive (SB)
    PC - EU
    Gromag Gro-Molag - Sorcerer - EP
    Dexion Velus - Dragonknight - AD
    Chalaux Erissa - Nightblade - AD
    Firiel Erissa - Templar - AD
  • Akinos
    Akinos
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    18000-20000
    5 heavy 2 light dual wield magicka templar. With a shield its around 22.5k with major ward. I know it's important to have a good amount of both health and defense, but at this point in the game with the meta the way it is, I feel like having more health helps alot more.
    Edited by Akinos on 5 November 2016 05:43
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  • Derra
    Derra
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    11000 or less
    Lightarmor. Why am i doing this...
    <Noricum>
    I live. I die. I live again.

    Derra - DC - Sorc - AvA 50
    Derrah - EP - Sorc - AvA 50

  • DannyLV702
    DannyLV702
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    I evenly play a full light armor sorc, a full medium stamblade and a full heavy armor stamDK so idk what to tell you
  • Kutsuu
    Kutsuu
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    15001-18000
    DannyLV702 wrote: »
    I evenly play a full light armor sorc, a full medium stamblade and a full heavy armor stamDK so idk what to tell you

    Sounds like you go the whole spectrum! I'm just interested to know what kind of defenses people are using. Maces may not be as "bad" as people make them out to be, especially for opener damage since you rarely apply fracture before a sneak attack.
    PC/NA

    Envy Me - Sorc
    Kutsus - NB
    Kutsmuffin - Temp
    Kutsuu the Destroyer - NB
    Kutsuu - Temp
    Natsu Dragoneel - DK
    Kutsumo - NB
  • Ketarmish
    Ketarmish
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    20001 or more
    20k on both, physical and spell resistance, Im a Templar Dark elf. 5 Light 1 Medium 1 Heavy, spent some points in Light armour focus on the Lady CP constellation.
  • NBrookus
    NBrookus
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    20001 or more
    Heavy armor mDK and also aim for 100% Volatile Armor uptime which puts me at spell resist cap and near phys resist cap.
  • GreenSoup2HoT
    GreenSoup2HoT
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    13001-15000
    13000, thats what 7 medium and no s+b gives you.
    PS4 NA DC
  • Takes-No-Prisoner
    Takes-No-Prisoner
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    13001-15000
    13K club represent 1.0
  • Valykc
    Valykc
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    11000 or less
    0

    Run naked, let the power of you mighty *** do the fighting! ;)
  • Waffennacht
    Waffennacht
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    Staff bar, approx 17k (going off memory) SnB bar, 22k I think.

    I do not run Boundless (or any other buff like that)

    Im always surprised it's not higher when wearing heavy armor.

    If I ran boundless it's around 22-27k

    I think the penetration from a mace would be the same as sharpened against my toon. Using both would certainly drop it down to 7k (lowest possible) - to 12k I think.
    Gamer tag: DasPanzerKat NA Xbox One
    1300+ CP
    Battleground PvP'er

    Waffennacht' Builds
  • Kutsuu
    Kutsuu
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    15001-18000
    Staff bar, approx 17k (going off memory) SnB bar, 22k I think.

    I do not run Boundless (or any other buff like that)

    Im always surprised it's not higher when wearing heavy armor.

    If I ran boundless it's around 22-27k

    I think the penetration from a mace would be the same as sharpened against my toon. Using both would certainly drop it down to 7k (lowest possible) - to 12k I think.

    My setup with Spriggan, Kra'gh, and a sharpened mace will get your 22k down to about 6400 before champion point penetration is applied - that's without major fracture.
    PC/NA

    Envy Me - Sorc
    Kutsus - NB
    Kutsmuffin - Temp
    Kutsuu the Destroyer - NB
    Kutsuu - Temp
    Natsu Dragoneel - DK
    Kutsumo - NB
  • WhiteMage
    WhiteMage
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    11000 or less
    As a light armor magplar, this (9.9k) is my phys resist when I'm trying to kill you. On the opposite end, I have 28k spell resist when I'm trying to not die.

    The difference is from sharpened to defending with major resistances.
    The generally amicable yet sporadically salty magplar that may or may not have 1vXed you in Sotha Sil. Who knows?
  • Minno
    Minno
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    20001 or more
    5 heavy, 1L,1M = physical 21k unbuffed (15% dmg mitigation after sharpened/mace). Physical 26k buffed (23% mitigation after sharpened/mace.)

    The added stats help tremendously:
    -16% reduction in both hardy/elemental defender (I think I have 5 or 8% mitigation with thick skin)
    - 2k crit resistance, transmutation proc puts me above 3k. Ritual of retribution ensures its procing on me and allies.
    - vampire undead passives add more mitigation to help pull me out of execute range.
    - Mist form gives me a Magicka mitigation that rivals S+b block. Best Magicka mitigation hands down.
    - Unchained passive unlocked helps offset low stam
    - Constitution passive helps add Magicka+ stam recovery.
    - Aedric spear passive still let's me block 65% melee dmg for "just in case" moments.
    -i have flex slot for harness Magicka/ward ally if I want more defense in solo encounters. 6k shield easy or 15k shield if I use ward ally as an "execute style saving throw"

    All together, it's sweet chin music.
    Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
    - Guild-lead for MV
    - Filthy Casual
  • Soris
    Soris
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    15001-18000
    Around 16k with 5 heavy 2 light. Am i doing it wrong? You guys wear reinforced stuff and defensive weapon?
    Welkynd [Templar/AD/EU]
  • Minno
    Minno
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    20001 or more
    Soris wrote: »
    Around 16k with 5 heavy 2 light. Am i doing it wrong? You guys wear reinforced stuff and defensive weapon?

    Purple Chest reinforced = 3000 armor roughly
    Purple Legs, boots, helm, and shoulder reinforced= 2600 armor roughly.

    Defending staff gold = roughly 5000 armor.

    Together that accounts for roughly 18k armor. You get more armor for each heavy armor slotted if you have the passive (with 5 I think you get around 2600? I forget the exact number).

    Off top of my head, Lady tree I think gives you 1200 without divines.
    And you can enchant around 800 armor to your rings. And the remaining amount is under the warrior tree in the champion point system.
    Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
    - Guild-lead for MV
    - Filthy Casual
  • arkansas_ESO
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    11000 or less
    Derra wrote: »
    Lightarmor. Why am i doing this...

    Same. Might as well be naked with how little armor I have.


    Grand Overlord 25/8/17
  • DeanTheCat
    DeanTheCat
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    11001-13000
    Full medium armour here, so my resistances are sitting round 11k unbuffed.

    ... Then again, I have a defending resto-sword as my backbar, so my resists will vary depending if I'm on the offensive or defensive.

    Not much inpen on my armour either, so Radiant Magelight is a must :p
    Dean the Cat
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  • Lava_Croft
    Lava_Croft
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    20001 or more
    Derra wrote: »
    Lightarmor. Why am i doing this...
    You have reliable, be it somewhat short lived shields! Better than dodge rolling, they say!
  • mrowmrif2
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    Suspicious of the topic purpose... to gauge how much penetration you need for a new build? :P
  • Kutsuu
    Kutsuu
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    15001-18000
    mrowmrif2 wrote: »
    Suspicious of the topic purpose... to gauge how much penetration you need for a new build? :P

    Yeah the build I ganked you with when we were testing things ;)
    PC/NA

    Envy Me - Sorc
    Kutsus - NB
    Kutsmuffin - Temp
    Kutsuu the Destroyer - NB
    Kutsuu - Temp
    Natsu Dragoneel - DK
    Kutsumo - NB
  • DeHei
    DeHei
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    11001-13000
    With 5 parts light armor, Froststaff and sharpened trait.
    To compensate this little armor, i use defend trait with my healing vMSA staff. With that i stay with 16k armor unbuffed. I needed a lot of practise to learn when i should switch to healing staff and to froststaff again, but it works.
    The Templar is atm the worst duell class in my opinion, thats another problem...

    26k armor with my full heavy armor DK :)
    DeHei - EP Magicka Templar Allrounder
    De Hei(Youtube)
  • Kutsuu
    Kutsuu
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    15001-18000
    DeHei wrote: »
    With 5 parts light armor, Froststaff and sharpened trait.
    To compensate this little armor, i use defend trait with my healing vMSA staff. With that i stay with 16k armor unbuffed. I needed a lot of practise to learn when i should switch to healing staff and to froststaff again, but it works.
    The Templar is atm the worst duell class in my opinion, thats another problem...

    26k armor with my full heavy armor DK :)

    If you're a Magicka templar, you'll find dueling better with DW+1hs or DW+dstaff, with 5 piece heavy (soulshine is very popular) 2 piece light.
    PC/NA

    Envy Me - Sorc
    Kutsus - NB
    Kutsmuffin - Temp
    Kutsuu the Destroyer - NB
    Kutsuu - Temp
    Natsu Dragoneel - DK
    Kutsumo - NB
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