Official Discussion Thread for "Update 11 Featuring Shadows of the Hist: First Look"

WillhelmBlack · June 2016

I predict one of the monster sets 1 pc will be magicka recovery.

MissBizz · June 2016

I'd love to know when the next ESO Live that, that I'm guessing will discuss this

SwaminoNowlino · June 2016

@Bfish22090 I don't disagree with you, though I likely won't be participating in the new dungeons or any DLC. Until they fix the base game, my sub will remain cancelled.

HELLB0UNDH0UND · June 2016

This update sounds awesome and I can't wait to check out the new dungeons. That said, I also still enjoy running the current dungeons, which I haven't been able to do since the grouping tool has been broken following the DB patch

SilentFox22 · June 2016

I was really hoping barber shop would cost game gold for subscribers. Even if you had to purchase new stuff in crown store first may not be so bad so long as you could use game gold after unlocking individual styles. This was the game breaker for me in GW2. Changing your hair, paint and adornments should not cost arm and leg in crowns.

Giraffon · June 2016

More content is always good. This one has some "fluff" in it, but new stuff is new stuff. I'll take it!

Bfish22090 · June 2016

SwaminoNowlino wrote: »

@Bfish22090 I don't disagree with you, though I likely won't be participating in the new dungeons or any DLC. Until they fix the base game, my sub will remain cancelled.

i bet theyre going to make the barbershop/race change sub only.
they will gain so many subs if they do that

OdinForge · June 2016

Bfish22090 wrote: »

next patch will be a "magicka update"
like this patch was a "stamina update"

get your magicka NB ready lone

The irony is that I made a new NB with a proper stamina race in 1.7, to replace my original Dunmer with a decent alliance war rank. And now they release race change..

Vet Dragonstar though.

Elsonso · June 2016

Bfish22090 wrote: »

SwaminoNowlino wrote: »

@Bfish22090 I don't disagree with you, though I likely won't be participating in the new dungeons or any DLC. Until they fix the base game, my sub will remain cancelled.

i bet theyre going to make the barbershop/race change sub only.
they will gain so many subs if they do that

No, they won't do that. They will sell tokens in the store for anyone to purchase.

Blackfyre20 · June 2016

Will be interested to see crown store prices but everything else sounds awesome, could definitely be the best DLC yet. New dungeons for PVE, new PVP content with the 3 flag system that we've been asking for, and barbershop. Lot of substance in this update, looking forward to it.

MissBizz · June 2016

lordrichter wrote: »

Bfish22090 wrote: »

SwaminoNowlino wrote: »

@Bfish22090 I don't disagree with you, though I likely won't be participating in the new dungeons or any DLC. Until they fix the base game, my sub will remain cancelled.

i bet theyre going to make the barbershop/race change sub only.
they will gain so many subs if they do that

No, they won't do that. They will sell tokens in the store for anyone to purchase.

Yeah, the crown store.

Gosh I hope there will be even a bit of the barber shop in game rather than crown only.

Saturn · June 2016

Sounds really interesting! Can't wait to hear more. Also, finally more group dungeons and upscaling of the older trials, especially vDSA at max level will make people interested in it again.

Was really hoping to hear something about arena / battleground type PvP, but I'm sure that will come later.

d8rmir · June 2016

SwaminoNowlino wrote: »

d8rmir wrote: »

SwaminoNowlino wrote: »

So there are a couple things I noticed that I may be interpreting incorrectly. They said they were updating AA and HRC in terms of difficulty and gear, but didn't explicitly state they were going to be CP 160. Maybe we move beyond CP 160 (doubtful) or more likely just worded it funny. Thoughts?

Please be wrong. I have been waiting for some 4-men content for almost one year, I don't want to need to re-gear up before I can play it...

I SERIOUSLY doubt that will happen, though given the small size of the update, it could be due to rolling out things like that. But again, I seriously doubt it. It was just worded vaguely, instead of just stating that they were being updated to CP 160 like sanctum.

Anyway I'll contain my hype until zos explicitly says that this won't happen!

ItsGlaive · June 2016

Blackfyre20 wrote: »

Will be interested to see crown store prices but everything else sounds awesome, could definitely be the best DLC yet. New dungeons for PVE, new PVP content with the 3 flag system that we've been asking for, and barbershop. Lot of substance in this update, looking forward to it.

Lots of nice small mechanics sure, but very little 'new' content of substance. Two dungeons and a barbershop. The flag thing is cool but it's a largely re-purpose of existing content.

Elsonso · June 2016

MissBizz wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Bfish22090 wrote: »

SwaminoNowlino wrote: »

@Bfish22090 I don't disagree with you, though I likely won't be participating in the new dungeons or any DLC. Until they fix the base game, my sub will remain cancelled.

i bet theyre going to make the barbershop/race change sub only.
they will gain so many subs if they do that

No, they won't do that. They will sell tokens in the store for anyone to purchase.

Yeah, the crown store.

Gosh I hope there will be even a bit of the barber shop in game rather than crown only.

Sure... on a cold day in the Deadlands, they might do that. Uh. Maybe not even then.

This is a cash cow. I expect that anyone in ZOS that even suggests gold instead of Crowns gets escorted to the curb by the marketing people.

Mooooooooooooo

Ling · June 2016

its just a little update but in my opinion also the best update, some really important things!!!

Balamoor · June 2016

Wow...15 whole post before the usual hate machine shows up. That's like a record right?

Anywho the chat functionality for consoles will be a welcome change...one very small step closer to being able to have cross platform play.

I'm looking forward to the recustomization features and the new dungeons, but I'm still having a blast in DB

Llevndryn · June 2016

the ability to dye costumes

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa this is so cool !!!

Turelus · June 2016

All sounds good, I guess it's just dependent on costs now.

I'm not sue the towns in Cyrodiil will really add much though, it's just more places to fight at without addressing some of the issues with hold fights unfold.

MissBizz · June 2016

lordrichter wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Bfish22090 wrote: »

SwaminoNowlino wrote: »

@Bfish22090 I don't disagree with you, though I likely won't be participating in the new dungeons or any DLC. Until they fix the base game, my sub will remain cancelled.

i bet theyre going to make the barbershop/race change sub only.
they will gain so many subs if they do that

No, they won't do that. They will sell tokens in the store for anyone to purchase.

Yeah, the crown store.

Gosh I hope there will be even a bit of the barber shop in game rather than crown only.

Sure... on a cold day in the Deadlands, they might do that. Uh. Maybe not even then.

This is a cash cow. I expect that anyone in ZOS that even suggests gold instead of Crowns gets escorted to the curb by the marketing people.

Mooooooooooooo

@lordrichter That made me laugh more than it should... my dog (real life) is named Moo.

From my wild uneducated guessing, I'd like to think there will be some barber shop elements in game (such as changing hair style etc.) BUT any new styles or adornments that are not currently in game will need to be purchased in the crown store. A piece of me wants to see new styles for gold too, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

Anyways, I'm REALLY excited about the DLC Dungeon pack and scaling up the old content. That's fantastic! Also being able to dye costumes... YAY! I purchased some costumes before that I wasn't really a fan of the colours... but was like "one day... one day they might let me dye it!".

Solariken · June 2016

It's fine to offer character customization via crown store tokens, but please build in a way to do this in game also!

Makkir · June 2016

Thanks Jessica, wife and I are excited already!

zerosingularity · June 2016

Love the new content. More fancy monster sets, upgraded AA/HRC/DSA (please cp160 Master Weapons!) and more!

My only concerns are as follows:

How expensive will the hair/adornments be? (Too high and it's a waste of time - LOTS of people want this!)

How expensive will race/name/appearance respec be? (Can we get 1 free per character when this goes live? Or maybe 1 per account? Or free to subscribers?)

Will the dungeons be pre-nerf vICP/vWGT levels, or current vCoA level?

Will we get a CP cap update?

Also, incoming cp160 Silks of the Sun and Vestment's of the Warlock sets?

kungmoo · June 2016

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

this is all great, glad to have more dungeons and and the barbershop.... all of it

but I have one question, one that is on everyones mind

It has been a year since the last level update, so can we get clear word on if there is a level increase in this update (or cp increase or whatever) so we can start planning ahead? I for one am on the verge of upgrading a set of gear atm, and I would really hate to waste all those gold mats for just a few weeks of use.

Flaminir · June 2016

Weirdly despite the lack of a new area I'm actually really excited by this...

I like new dungeons... but DSA scaling is going to be super fun... always loved that, & just wanted a reason to go back... CP160 Footman & Healer gear... yes please!

And I wonder if this means master weapons will scale to cp160 now???? That will be interesting!

MissBizz · June 2016

kungmoo wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

this is all great, glad to have more dungeons and and the barbershop.... all of it

but I have one question, one that is on everyones mind

It has been a year since the last level update, so can we get clear word on if there is a level increase in this update (or cp increase or whatever) so we can start planning ahead? I for one am on the verge of upgrading a set of gear atm, and I would really hate to waste all those gold mats for just a few weeks of use.

@kungmoo Absolutely don't go gold right now. Firstly, there is a definite possibility of a gear level increase as you mentioned.. secondly, there could be gear that you prefer MUCH more coming with the next update. So even if they don't change gear cap.. you may be wishing you waited because there may be a better suited item set for you. (No idea if they are adding full item sets, but they definitely mentioned at least monster helms)

maboleth · June 2016

I like everything except the race change. I think that kind of ruins the RPG element and makes it too forgivable.
You shouldn't change who you are and your origin. Khajiit shouldn't suddenly become Imperial, Breton, Altmer or Argonian. It's just NO. Pick them at the beginning of your journey and play.

Or - make the race change with a heavy price. Like, to be used by people who completely missed their preferred race at the beginning. With a lock that you cannot change it again for a certain period of time.

Dissentinel · June 2016

Character creation was bugged during Early Access back in March 2014. I've been waiting so long for character, name, and race changes this update just makes me so excited and I can't wait!

BoloBoffin · June 2016

kungmoo wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

this is all great, glad to have more dungeons and and the barbershop.... all of it

but I have one question, one that is on everyones mind

It has been a year since the last level update, so can we get clear word on if there is a level increase in this update (or cp increase or whatever) so we can start planning ahead? I for one am on the verge of upgrading a set of gear atm, and I would really hate to waste all those gold mats for just a few weeks of use.

Good question. It does say all gears in three old trial/groups dungeons will be max level, so to me that sounds like we are still going to be at 160 max level on CP. They could easily go up, though. Maybe 175 with 51 additional CP to allocate to your characters?

ManDraKE · June 2016

This is looking great

- Racial change -> yay!
- Cyrodrill towns -> 3 flags, great! i was worried that they would make the same mistake that they did with the IC districts
- Dragonstar arena update -> the only PvE content i enjoy in this game, looking foward for the updated version. Master weapons cp160 hype (suck it vMSA).
- Console text chat -> i play on PC, but this is huge for consoles, good for them.

Don't forget the peformance improvements to Cyrodrill, performance is better now but still far from what it should be.

Estimated release date for this? Q3 2016?