Why does everyone hate EP so much?

vamp_emily

Oh my friend just 1 hit an EP at sejanus ( WB from stealth ). Why does that make me happy? lol.

Skinzz

And I slaughtered 6 DC players on my own outside alessia. Now that makes me happy.

Olen_Mikko

vamp_emily wrote: »

Is there something wrong with hating your enemies?

This is a pic of 6 EP members T-Bagging me. Seriously? Did I really need 6 T-bags?

It's funny that they teabag people, after they have 4v1 them first.

Lucky28

Olen_Mikko wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

Is there something wrong with hating your enemies?

This is a pic of 6 EP members T-Bagging me. Seriously? Did I really need 6 T-bags?

It's funny that they teabag people, after they have 4v1 them first.

Both AD and DC players have done that to me. Zerg me down and teabag me. that as well, is not an EP only thing.
It is a stupid practice nonetheless.

chuckselegy

Let's be logical about the whole idea that two factions are teaming against the third faction.

Unless you see them working together, then just stop. There are three factions. At some point two faction will be battling the third, and in most cases it's the winning team. Why doesn't the 3rd place team go after 2nd place? Well that's because people don't understand that 2nd place is better than 3rd place.

To be more specific and answer your "why do you all hate EP" question? It's because of the massive zergs and monopoly on campaigns that EP has.
I don't mean zergs of 16-24, or even 40 players. I'm talking about almost an entire pop-locked server storming a keep. That's something like 100-300 players!!

I get it, there is safety in numbers and that you gain as much or more AP than the solo or 4-12 man small scale player(s), so why not Zerg. And I get that Skyrim was a huge game (mostly the reason I've heard for going EP).

The facts are this,

DC typically has fewer players forcing us to really focus on skill and not running into massive zergs head-on.

AD has a lot of skill, partially from pc transfer (though all factions have pc transfers) that really excel at small scale PVP.

EP has numbers and feels safer in those numbers.

No one is implicitly colluding with another faction to overthrow the clear patriarchy that is EP.
EP owns everything so both factions have to target you to have something, or one thing.

EP came in and took Azura from AD, came in and took Skull from DC, already owns Thornblade and Chillrend. Scourge and Haderus are fairly even but there are peak times where we run into a hoard of reds that are clearly insurmountable odds.

Just play the game and stop worrying about people who hate you.

Jhunn

Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »

Then please tell me oh almighty AbraxusExploitus :P

Very intelligent.

revonine

AD and EP are gonna always have more players for 2 reasons I think:
Former Skyrim players are gonna go EP.
Min-Maxers are gonna go AD because of the racial choices.
Oh and AD has Kate Beckinsale.

Springt-Über-Zwerge

Jhunn wrote: »

Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »

Then please tell me oh almighty AbraxusExploitus :P

Very intelligent.

Thanks thats very kind of you. Your compliment is appreciated

kaalmoth

chuckselegy wrote: »

Let's be logical about the whole idea that two factions are teaming against the third faction.

Unless you see them working together, then just stop. There are three factions. At some point two faction will be battling the third, and in most cases it's the winning team. Why doesn't the 3rd place team go after 2nd place? Well that's because people don't understand that 2nd place is better than 3rd place.

To be more specific and answer your "why do you all hate EP" question? It's because of the massive zergs and monopoly on campaigns that EP has.
I don't mean zergs of 16-24, or even 40 players. I'm talking about almost an entire pop-locked server storming a keep. That's something like 100-300 players!!

I get it, there is safety in numbers and that you gain as much or more AP than the solo or 4-12 man small scale player(s), so why not Zerg. And I get that Skyrim was a huge game (mostly the reason I've heard for going EP).

The facts are this,

DC typically has fewer players forcing us to really focus on skill and not running into massive zergs head-on.

AD has a lot of skill, partially from pc transfer (though all factions have pc transfers) that really excel at small scale PVP.

EP has numbers and feels safer in those numbers.

No one is implicitly colluding with another faction to overthrow the clear patriarchy that is EP.
EP owns everything so both factions have to target you to have something, or one thing.

EP came in and took Azura from AD, came in and took Skull from DC, already owns Thornblade and Chillrend. Scourge and Haderus are fairly even but there are peak times where we run into a hoard of reds that are clearly insurmountable odds.

Just play the game and stop worrying about people who hate you.

Well I guess some people, me included, have the feeling on ps4-eu that EP are being focused, even if there is nothing to say they are dominating. Very often I see Blue or yellow pushing really far, even after Arius, and I have the feeling that it doesnt happen the other ways near as much.
Now maybe it's just a feeling, but there is one undeniable fact, EP are always the last faction at the end of campaign.

dRudE

Because AD-DC are kinda good guy-ish, played by bads. While EP are kinda bad guy-ish played by goods. At least that's the psychological explanation.

On NA PC, EP held the main campaign for the longest which caused AD and DC to have to team up to be able to dent the reign. The ideology still lingers.

Also this game allows multi-faction accounts, so some people will just swap between depending on who's online, where's the best AP etc.

AbraXuSeXile

Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »

Hexys wrote: »

The main problem with EP on Azura EU is that you either fight nothing or a full AoE spamming zerg. Without lagg this would be fine to counter in a very organised 12 man group. But with lagg skill becomes totally useless.

There is another point, a guild which can't make a difference during the day because they lack some skill. So they PvDoor in the night.

haha a player from exile complaining about lag. Im having a good laugh right now. There is a reason we call you lagxile and the reason is that everytime your guild joins a fight with your meteor/proxy/tornado spam it immedeately becomes unplayable. Thank you for making my day

Your entire faction fighting us and we lag you.

Obvious 10IQ player here folks.

salty a bit arent we?

You have no idea what you're saying.

Then please tell me oh almighty AbraxusExploitus :P

Apologies but ive used up all my spare talking with nobodies time. Maybe some other time.

revonine

kaalmoth wrote: »

chuckselegy wrote: »

Let's be logical about the whole idea that two factions are teaming against the third faction.

Unless you see them working together, then just stop. There are three factions. At some point two faction will be battling the third, and in most cases it's the winning team. Why doesn't the 3rd place team go after 2nd place? Well that's because people don't understand that 2nd place is better than 3rd place.

To be more specific and answer your "why do you all hate EP" question? It's because of the massive zergs and monopoly on campaigns that EP has.
I don't mean zergs of 16-24, or even 40 players. I'm talking about almost an entire pop-locked server storming a keep. That's something like 100-300 players!!

I get it, there is safety in numbers and that you gain as much or more AP than the solo or 4-12 man small scale player(s), so why not Zerg. And I get that Skyrim was a huge game (mostly the reason I've heard for going EP).

The facts are this,

DC typically has fewer players forcing us to really focus on skill and not running into massive zergs head-on.

AD has a lot of skill, partially from pc transfer (though all factions have pc transfers) that really excel at small scale PVP.

EP has numbers and feels safer in those numbers.

No one is implicitly colluding with another faction to overthrow the clear patriarchy that is EP.
EP owns everything so both factions have to target you to have something, or one thing.

EP came in and took Azura from AD, came in and took Skull from DC, already owns Thornblade and Chillrend. Scourge and Haderus are fairly even but there are peak times where we run into a hoard of reds that are clearly insurmountable odds.

Just play the game and stop worrying about people who hate you.

Well I guess some people, me included, have the feeling on ps4-eu that EP are being focused, even if there is nothing to say they are dominating. Very often I see Blue or yellow pushing really far, even after Arius, and I have the feeling that it doesnt happen the other ways near as much.
Now maybe it's just a feeling, but there is one undeniable fact, EP are always the last faction at the end of campaign.

They are always last because they keep trying to push West toward us while never moving past Sejanus outpost. We either push them back or the yellows then come knocking on Arrius Keep. LAst time I was on a few hours ago AD have both their scrolls. Would you think they'd make an effort to push South? Nah gotta push West.

Though I will say that most of the time AD and EP are focusing us, or us and AD are focusing EP. It's like no one is interested in breaking AD's dominance lol.

Springt-Über-Zwerge

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »

Hexys wrote: »

The main problem with EP on Azura EU is that you either fight nothing or a full AoE spamming zerg. Without lagg this would be fine to counter in a very organised 12 man group. But with lagg skill becomes totally useless.

There is another point, a guild which can't make a difference during the day because they lack some skill. So they PvDoor in the night.

haha a player from exile complaining about lag. Im having a good laugh right now. There is a reason we call you lagxile and the reason is that everytime your guild joins a fight with your meteor/proxy/tornado spam it immedeately becomes unplayable. Thank you for making my day

Your entire faction fighting us and we lag you.

Obvious 10IQ player here folks.

salty a bit arent we?

You have no idea what you're saying.

Then please tell me oh almighty AbraxusExploitus :P

Apologies but ive used up all my spare talking with nobodies time. Maybe some other time.

talking to yourself a lot eh?

TheRubiksCube

I would like to start things off with a quote from Skyrim. "So what if the Nords don't appreciate us? I just don't appreciate them right back." That's kind of how I feel about other factions hating EP. I don't care if people hate EP. It's not going to make me stop playing EP. But you want to know what I rarely see from EP? I rarely see EP crying like a baby when we get zerged by AD or DC (especially on BwB on Xbox which AD consistently wins in). I really only see DC and AD guys throwing temper tantrums and being salty on the forums about EP zerging.

If AD and DC are as skilled as they claim themselves to be, why do they have to work together to take down EP? If they were as skilled as they claimed themselves to be, wouldn't they be able to take on EP without working together, and zergs would be nothing to complain about? Food for thought, and that's all I have to say.

TheRubiksCube

vamp_emily wrote: »

Is there something wrong with hating your enemies?

This is a pic of 6 EP members T-Bagging me. Seriously? Did I really need 6 T-bags?

Hmm I now understand why people say nuts are salty.

CatchMeTrolling

TheRubiksCube wrote: »

I would like to start things off with a quote from Skyrim. "So what if the Nords don't appreciate us? I just don't appreciate them right back." That's kind of how I feel about other factions hating EP. I don't care if people hate EP. It's not going to make me stop playing EP. But you want to know what I rarely see from EP? I rarely see EP crying like a baby when we get zerged by AD or DC (especially on BwB on Xbox which AD consistently wins in). I really only see DC and AD guys throwing temper tantrums and being salty on the forums about EP zerging.

If AD and DC are as skilled as they claim themselves to be, why do they have to work together to take down EP? If they were as skilled as they claimed themselves to be, wouldn't they be able to take on EP without working together, and zergs would be nothing to complain about? Food for thought, and that's all I have to say.

My point exactly, if EP is so bad then why not take us on with your own alliance like we do. Try to say we complain but really we just want to know why must you team up against us lol

CatchMeTrolling

chuckselegy wrote: »

Let's be logical about the whole idea that two factions are teaming against the third faction.

Unless you see them working together, then just stop. There are three factions. At some point two faction will be battling the third, and in most cases it's the winning team. Why doesn't the 3rd place team go after 2nd place? Well that's because people don't understand that 2nd place is better than 3rd place.

To be more specific and answer your "why do you all hate EP" question? It's because of the massive zergs and monopoly on campaigns that EP has.
I don't mean zergs of 16-24, or even 40 players. I'm talking about almost an entire pop-locked server storming a keep. That's something like 100-300 players!!

I get it, there is safety in numbers and that you gain as much or more AP than the solo or 4-12 man small scale player(s), so why not Zerg. And I get that Skyrim was a huge game (mostly the reason I've heard for going EP).

The facts are this,

DC typically has fewer players forcing us to really focus on skill and not running into massive zergs head-on.

AD has a lot of skill, partially from pc transfer (though all factions have pc transfers) that really excel at small scale PVP.

EP has numbers and feels safer in those numbers.

No one is implicitly colluding with another faction to overthrow the clear patriarchy that is EP.
EP owns everything so both factions have to target you to have something, or one thing.

EP came in and took Azura from AD, came in and took Skull from DC, already owns Thornblade and Chillrend. Scourge and Haderus are fairly even but there are peak times where we run into a hoard of reds that are clearly insurmountable odds.

Just play the game and stop worrying about people who hate you.

No they actually worked together, I'm in a server where EP isn't the dominate faction. They're actually at the bottom in terms of numbers but even then people will go out of their way to try to farm EP. As far as skipping keeps not to push for emp but to keep us from stopping the other faction from getting EMP But you can take it how you want lol the fact still remains

Olen_Mikko

TheRubiksCube wrote: »

I would like to start things off with a quote from Skyrim. "So what if the Nords don't appreciate us? I just don't appreciate them right back." That's kind of how I feel about other factions hating EP. I don't care if people hate EP. It's not going to make me stop playing EP. But you want to know what I rarely see from EP? I rarely see EP crying like a baby when we get zerged by AD or DC (especially on BwB on Xbox which AD consistently wins in). I really only see DC and AD guys throwing temper tantrums and being salty on the forums about EP zerging.

If AD and DC are as skilled as they claim themselves to be, why do they have to work together to take down EP? If they were as skilled as they claimed themselves to be, wouldn't they be able to take on EP without working together, and zergs would be nothing to complain about? Food for thought, and that's all I have to say.

You do whine like a childs when you are zerged and you loose. I have witnessed it multiple times.

AD and DC are more skilled individuals than EP, but that doesn't help, if numbers are 5:1 ratio to EP.

I have never seen that one or two EP can do anything, unlike i have seen duo capturing keeps from AD and DC

Numbers man, numbers. That is why EP can manage.

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PS: this is just a joke post I don't hate or dislike anyone in Cyrodiil. I play for fun, sometimes I win, sometimes I lose, but idc

I do use /dance at times for the certain kill and fast respawn if needed or for funsies xD

Let's just play the game, kill each other and compare egos later, ok?

Chrlynsch

Lore: EP is filled with lizard people that hatch from eggs, horrible dark elves, and alcoholics. The most rag tag crew. I play 100% EP characters, but let's face it we are easy to hate:)

Psychology: For over a decade the main color in 91% video games for enemies is red. Where allies or neutral are often depicted as blue and yellow. You can't fight it it's been reinforced. Red is also the color of Power in 84% of western countries, as we all are used to being the underdog in video games, overthrowing the Power is only natural.

Hope this helps, take it as a complement.

73.6% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

CatchMeTrolling

Prothwata wrote: »

Lore: EP is filled with lizard people that hatch from eggs, horrible dark elves, and alcoholics. The most rag tag crew. I play 100% EP characters, but let's face it we are easy to hate:)

Psychology: For over a decade the main color in 91% video games for enemies is red. Where allies or neutral are often depicted as blue and yellow. You can't fight it it's been reinforced. Red is also the color of Power in 84% of western countries, as we all are used to being the underdog in video games, overthrowing the Power is only natural.

Hope this helps, take it as a complement.

73.6% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

So what you're telling me is 75 percent of cyrodiil see red and as a result turn into bull-lies

Jaronking

You have more people than us.How hard is that to understand.You outnumber us and with how the game is now only numbers matter.So sorry we have to work together especially when we are both at 1-2 bars and you guys are faction locked.This is not not hard to understand we been saying it the entire thread your not more skilled then us you just outnumber us.So you win that's why we double team you.I play Xbox I run solo and group its very from 4-12 players at a time I have never seen a EP group smaller than 20.Unless Grinding in IC and am Ganking.I will admit AD AND DC zerg but its no where near the size or EP and no where near as frequently.Not to mentioned if you pushed us to Glademist their going to be a lot of DC their defending our 3 Home Keeps and when we push out their will be a zerg.

CatchMeTrolling

Jaronking wrote: »

You have more people than us.How hard is that to understand.You outnumber us and with how the game is now only numbers matter.So sorry we have to work together especially when we are both at 1-2 bars and you guys are faction locked.This is not not hard to understand we been saying it the entire thread your not more skilled then us you just outnumber us.So you win that's why we double team you.I play Xbox I run solo and group its very from 4-12 players at a time I have never seen a EP group smaller than 20.Unless Grinding in IC and am Ganking.I will admit AD AND DC zerg but its no where near the size or EP and no where near as frequently.Not to mentioned if you pushed us to Glademist their going to be a lot of DC their defending our 3 Home Keeps and when we push out their will be a zerg.

You haven't been reading at all, just giving your bias opinion really. I play in a server where ep are the underdogs, we don't have more numbers than ad or dc. Is that hard for you to understand or are you just going to continue to ignore the fact just to apply your opinion?

It doesn't matter if we're the dominate force or not we'll get ganged up on regardless. This has nothing to do with numbers, people naturally try to attack EP just because. Besides you're talking about zergs when dc has been zerging Haderus the entire last campaign lol before it was ad, when was the last time EP won or came in second place in that server?

Skinzz

Jaronking wrote: »

You have more people than us.How hard is that to understand.You outnumber us and with how the game is now only numbers matter.So sorry we have to work together especially when we are both at 1-2 bars and you guys are faction locked.This is not not hard to understand we been saying it the entire thread your not more skilled then us you just outnumber us.So you win that's why we double team you.I play Xbox I run solo and group its very from 4-12 players at a time I have never seen a EP group smaller than 20.Unless Grinding in IC and am Ganking.I will admit AD AND DC zerg but its no where near the size or EP and no where near as frequently.Not to mentioned if you pushed us to Glademist their going to be a lot of DC their defending our 3 Home Keeps and when we push out their will be a zerg.

Lol you are just a hypocrite. In another thread you denied that DC and AD team up but now you're admitting to it. Everyone zergs whether you like it or not. I'm a solo player so I know what it's like to get zerged. at certain times EP would be outnumbered. It's funny how u think only DC and AD have good players. Each alliance has their top dogs, maybe u just pick on the weak.

Lava_Croft

They have to hate on something, so why not hate on the strongest faction?

Humphie

revonine wrote: »

AD and EP are gonna always have more players for 2 reasons I think:
Former Skyrim players are gonna go EP.
Min-Maxers are gonna go AD because of the racial choices.
Oh and AD has Kate Beckinsale.

LMAO


Exactly why I picked EP when I started, little did I know then. Oh well...I like EP cause there are some cool people playing with me. There are some cool people on AD and DC side too. Also met not so cool people in every faction. Zerging happens everywhere. Just a timing thing. When I get in the game, it's all yellow (thanks to vanzan at this point hehe), then we try to take back things and after a while DC comes out to play.
I never understood the tbag thing and I would never do it...Besides maybe lolimage Haha

Jaronking

xskinzcity wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

You have more people than us.How hard is that to understand.You outnumber us and with how the game is now only numbers matter.So sorry we have to work together especially when we are both at 1-2 bars and you guys are faction locked.This is not not hard to understand we been saying it the entire thread your not more skilled then us you just outnumber us.So you win that's why we double team you.I play Xbox I run solo and group its very from 4-12 players at a time I have never seen a EP group smaller than 20.Unless Grinding in IC and am Ganking.I will admit AD AND DC zerg but its no where near the size or EP and no where near as frequently.Not to mentioned if you pushed us to Glademist their going to be a lot of DC their defending our 3 Home Keeps and when we push out their will be a zerg.

Lol you are just a hypocrite. In another thread you denied that DC and AD team up but now you're admitting to it. Everyone zergs whether you like it or not. I'm a solo player so I know what it's like to get zerged. at certain times EP would be outnumbered. It's funny how u think only DC and AD have good players. Each alliance has their top dogs, maybe u just pick on the weak.

Yes am a hypocrite for saying when one faction is pop lock and the other two are not they push EP yes am a hypocrite for making since.Also so yes admitting that when we are under populated DC and AD has to push the Over Populated alliance so yes that's working together but what you in your thread said is that AD and DC would Siege the same keep together and things of that nature which I called BS on because we don't.What I am saying in this thread is of course DC will push EP at the Same time as AD If not than DC or AD will have to face the whole Freaken EP faction and Lag us out.Again I even admired DC zerg in my post but I also said EP zerg way more than us.Well I will admit I have fought EP Emps solo and won I even 1v3 a Emp and his 2 lacky all Vet16 before and one.I fought Regular EP before solo and won then get taken down by his 6 bodies and teabagged.The point in me saying EP isn't good they just have numbers will stand by that statement because am not even that good and I can 1vX EP,.I have fought Good AD and some Bad ones more good than bad I seen a group of 6 wipe a group of 35+ before.I have never seen EP do anything without numbers and when that change I will change my statement.

Edit I change my statement I have fought 3-4 very skilled EP but they were transfer so am not sure if that counts but I haven't seen them since my guild left Chillrend before IC was relaxed.

Jaronking

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

You have more people than us.How hard is that to understand.You outnumber us and with how the game is now only numbers matter.So sorry we have to work together especially when we are both at 1-2 bars and you guys are faction locked.This is not not hard to understand we been saying it the entire thread your not more skilled then us you just outnumber us.So you win that's why we double team you.I play Xbox I run solo and group its very from 4-12 players at a time I have never seen a EP group smaller than 20.Unless Grinding in IC and am Ganking.I will admit AD AND DC zerg but its no where near the size or EP and no where near as frequently.Not to mentioned if you pushed us to Glademist their going to be a lot of DC their defending our 3 Home Keeps and when we push out their will be a zerg.

You haven't been reading at all, just giving your bias opinion really. I play in a server where ep are the underdogs, we don't have more numbers than ad or dc. Is that hard for you to understand or are you just going to continue to ignore the fact just to apply your opinion?

It doesn't matter if we're the dominate force or not we'll get ganged up on regardless. This has nothing to do with numbers, people naturally try to attack EP just because. Besides you're talking about zergs when dc has been zerging Haderus the entire last campaign lol before it was ad, when was the last time EP won or came in second place in that server?

Well I'd idk what happened to the qoute I had with my post because I was responding to someone who posted about three post before mines.Its really not fact when you have 2 bars like DC has but hey keep saying your outnumbered play DC and you will see what outnumbered feel like.

Well to answer your question when was the last time EP won Haderus.It was about 2 months ago before AD came in strength and took over DC had everyone Scrolls so we could push out to cap anyone resources and we would never really get pass Chalmen or Roeback so we didn't have any Emp that campaign but all had a lot of AP.Than every Campaign after that for about a 2-3 cycles you had second while we were in last place.

Yes call me bias for saying you have more people than us but hey they Closed Moon cursed Blade you have a lot more players looking for a new home so your population going to probably pick up in a week or two.

a1i3nz

Have you ever been to sewers? They're weird af sitting around outside our door just to gank a handful of us. I've driven a zerg off with only a few other people and they just return with a even bigger zerg what wtf are you guys even trying to do. Either way, more AP for me

LegacyDM

Goes back to the aoe spam days when certain guilds in EP would purposely lag the server with meteor, impulse, and batswarm spam. The same cast of characters would come day in and day out abusing game mechanics to gain emporer. Some guilds would go as far as hiding behind keep walls lag bombing the server. In addition It was obvious the high end ranking players in EP were sharing accounts to get to pvp lvl 50 so quickly. Anyone who has been playing this game since launch knows what I am talkin about when it come to EP. AD and DC are no saints, but those factions were no where near the level of EP abuse.