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Why does everyone hate EP so much?

  • Lucky28
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    laced wrote: »
    EP is where most of the skyrim hipsters go, that's why I don't like them. Plus the amount of nightblades in EP is just ridiculous.

    bull, the amount of nightblades on every faction is ridiculous. that is so not an ep only thing.
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    I wish people realized that a lot of people who play EP aren't Skyrim kiddies, a lot of us are people who played Morrowind or Oblivion and other TES games and we wanted to experience those zones because we enjoy the lore, and it's a horrible generalization. That's such a bad generalization and you shouldn't pigeonhole people, all factions are guilty of PVP warcrimes like gate camping, zerging, buff campaigning, and AOE spamming.
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    Lucky28 wrote: »
    laced wrote: »
    EP is where most of the skyrim hipsters go, that's why I don't like them. Plus the amount of nightblades in EP is just ridiculous.

    bull, the amount of nightblades on every faction is ridiculous. that is so not an ep only thing.

    I see most of them on EP. It is just like swtor, EP is like the empire, it is where all the "cool kids" go and they mostly played the most fotm classes. In AD I usually see sorcs temps and a few nbs, dc I see TONS of dks and temps followed by sorcs and nbs. EP is just filled to the brim with sorcs and nbs. It is a very rare occasion that I see any dks or temps on their side.
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    Nah AD is way too active in IC now. Cyro got abandoned a bit and EP is profiting from it a LOT. I remember AD used to be the hated faction cz it had the biggest zergs.

    Its a 3 way fight, one alliance is always going to generate more grieving than others, right now it seems to be EP.
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    Why does everyone hate EP so much?

    I dont.

    I hate DC
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  • Cathexis
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    I just hate the side with the most players, because it stops being fun when you are outnumbered 10:1

    Servers need balance.
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    Because EP outnumber both alliances combine almost so yes we have to push you guys at the same time so we don't have the entire EP faction Fighting us at 1 keep.You can fight on top Fronts with ease why the other two factions can't. For example you can hold Blue Road for ever.I seen it happen EP held that Keep all night mainly because they had the entire faction in their and would lag crash us all.Really EP isn't good they just have numbers that's why I hate them.

    Side note:EP is really easy way to farm AP off of.


    In my campaign EP doesn't have numbers. We actually have to face zergs, we are always outnumbered. AD currently has the most numbers, especially with everyone quitting and joining them
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    zornyan wrote: »
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    Generally because every time I see reds ( and mostly yellows) it's a massive zerg, lost count of the times I've been in the sewers far into DC territory and a massive group comes through.

    The thing that gets me is, their not doing it for stones etc, as when I've had a brief look at their side it's empty, they purely zerg up and come trolling through to DC side of sewers just to be massive trolls.

    Oh and reds are inbreds....don't marry your cousins!

    The sewers is a ghost town, it was your imagination. And at least we don't mate with Orcs.

    The point is reds just seem like childish morons, the players we fight 1v1 generally have a massive lack of skill, infact I got a video of me 1v5 and winning multiple times the other night, every single red I meet seems to be just some zerg that spams steel tornado.

    But it gets demoralizing, we spent an entire day (about 12 hours) fighting the reds on a outnumbered basis, about 12 of us took a group and we're fighting at keep after keep and winning even when outnumbered 2 to 1.

    But after that? Massive red zerg of death, literally had them pouring in from every angle constantly, it turned into 20 to 1 and it just seems pathetic that they only ever win by numbers not skill.


    Yeah I beg to differ, cyrodiil is full of zergs across every alliance and most benefit from numbers not just EP. Have you seen Haderus on Xbox one? We fight nothing but zergs from AD & DC even when we have nothing at all, which is most of the time until everyone gets on at night.

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    tonemd wrote: »
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    I will say this, the EP know their strength is in their numbers. They tend to stay together. Even when they straggle out of a keeps to the next objective the pugs tend to come out in threes. Makes ganking tough. I think it's actually a factional culture. Whereas there are too many solo/yolo "heroes" on the DC side.

    AD has a few 2vXers and the big farm groups that come out to farm and push emp, other than that they just hide in their keeps playing cards I guess.

    EP is known for their military force, it fits the lore really.

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    Lucky28 wrote: »
    laced wrote: »
    EP is where most of the skyrim hipsters go, that's why I don't like them. Plus the amount of nightblades in EP is just ridiculous.

    bull, the amount of nightblades on every faction is ridiculous. that is so not an ep only thing.


    If we're being honest AD has the most nightblades from my experience.
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    Nah AD is way too active in IC now. Cyro got abandoned a bit and EP is profiting from it a LOT. I remember AD used to be the hated faction cz it had the biggest zergs.

    Its a 3 way fight, one alliance is always going to generate more grieving than others, right now it seems to be EP.

    On what platform? Right now it's AD on Xbox NA
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    Cathexis wrote: »
    I just hate the side with the most players, because it stops being fun when you are outnumbered 10:1

    Servers need balance.

    Yeah servers do but they always get ruined because people eventually bring in help, take haderus on Xbox for example, was very balanced. Now ? Not so much, we actually have no balanced servers

  • Lucky28
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    laced wrote: »
    Lucky28 wrote: »
    laced wrote: »
    EP is where most of the skyrim hipsters go, that's why I don't like them. Plus the amount of nightblades in EP is just ridiculous.

    bull, the amount of nightblades on every faction is ridiculous. that is so not an ep only thing.

    I see most of them on EP. It is just like swtor, EP is like the empire, it is where all the "cool kids" go and they mostly played the most fotm classes. In AD I usually see sorcs temps and a few nbs, dc I see TONS of dks and temps followed by sorcs and nbs. EP is just filled to the brim with sorcs and nbs. It is a very rare occasion that I see any dks or temps on their side.

    I see a lot more Nightblades in AD. actually i'm pretty sure they have it on lockdown, i can't go anywhere without getting ambushed by 5 Ad nightblades at once. and for DC it's sorcs. i wish EP had more Templar healers tho, i really do.
    I recently started a magicka nightblade and it's a really easy class to play, i can't even hold it against people for re-rolling nightblade this patch. A good balance of sustained DPS and Healing, the class is just really good, easier to play then my sorc by a long shot.
    Edited by Lucky28 on 23 November 2015 21:51
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  • Jaronking
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    Because EP outnumber both alliances combine almost so yes we have to push you guys at the same time so we don't have the entire EP faction Fighting us at 1 keep.You can fight on top Fronts with ease why the other two factions can't. For example you can hold Blue Road for ever.I seen it happen EP held that Keep all night mainly because they had the entire faction in their and would lag crash us all.Really EP isn't good they just have numbers that's why I hate them.

    Side note:EP is really easy way to farm AP off of.


    In my campaign EP doesn't have numbers. We actually have to face zergs, we are always outnumbered. AD currently has the most numbers, especially with everyone quitting and joining them
    Stop freaken lying because you know you are.EP own most campaign on Xbox.AD owns 2-3 DC 1 and EP the rest.Your hardly every get Zerged down you are always Zerging the other factions so admit it.Your getting a taste of your own medicine and we push you back so we don't have to deal with you and we can actually PVP.

    Also again EP still have the most number and outnumber the other faction even with people leaving.
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    Because EP outnumber both alliances combine almost so yes we have to push you guys at the same time so we don't have the entire EP faction Fighting us at 1 keep.You can fight on top Fronts with ease why the other two factions can't. For example you can hold Blue Road for ever.I seen it happen EP held that Keep all night mainly because they had the entire faction in their and would lag crash us all.Really EP isn't good they just have numbers that's why I hate them.

    Side note:EP is really easy way to farm AP off of.


    In my campaign EP doesn't have numbers. We actually have to face zergs, we are always outnumbered. AD currently has the most numbers, especially with everyone quitting and joining them
    Double post.
    Edited by Jaronking on 23 November 2015 22:29
  • CatchMeTrolling
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Because EP outnumber both alliances combine almost so yes we have to push you guys at the same time so we don't have the entire EP faction Fighting us at 1 keep.You can fight on top Fronts with ease why the other two factions can't. For example you can hold Blue Road for ever.I seen it happen EP held that Keep all night mainly because they had the entire faction in their and would lag crash us all.Really EP isn't good they just have numbers that's why I hate them.

    Side note:EP is really easy way to farm AP off of.


    In my campaign EP doesn't have numbers. We actually have to face zergs, we are always outnumbered. AD currently has the most numbers, especially with everyone quitting and joining them
    Stop freaken lying because you know you are.EP own most campaign on Xbox.AD owns 2-3 DC 1 and EP the rest.Your hardly every get Zerged down you are always Zerging the other factions so admit it.Your getting a taste of your own medicine and we push you back so we don't have to deal with you and we can actually PVP.

    Also again EP still have the most number and outnumber the other faction even with people leaving.

    Loool what are you talking about EP has like 2 servers with the main one being scourge now. AD has more numbers than anyone. Then again, EP really only have chillrend and thornblade again. AD skeleton key, black water blade, had moon curesed blade, have haderus and had thornblade before we took it back...oh and don't forget Amira's star. Now you were saying?
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Because EP outnumber both alliances combine almost so yes we have to push you guys at the same time so we don't have the entire EP faction Fighting us at 1 keep.You can fight on top Fronts with ease why the other two factions can't. For example you can hold Blue Road for ever.I seen it happen EP held that Keep all night mainly because they had the entire faction in their and would lag crash us all.Really EP isn't good they just have numbers that's why I hate them.

    Side note:EP is really easy way to farm AP off of.


    In my campaign EP doesn't have numbers. We actually have to face zergs, we are always outnumbered. AD currently has the most numbers, especially with everyone quitting and joining them
    Stop freaken lying because you know you are.EP own most campaign on Xbox.AD owns 2-3 DC 1 and EP the rest.Your hardly every get Zerged down you are always Zerging the other factions so admit it.Your getting a taste of your own medicine and we push you back so we don't have to deal with you and we can actually PVP.

    Also again EP still have the most number and outnumber the other faction even with people leaving.

    Loool what are you talking about EP has like 2 servers with the main one being scourge now. AD has more numbers than anyone. Then again, EP really only have chillrend and thornblade again. AD skeleton key, black water blade, had moon curesed blade, have haderus and had thornblade before we took it back...oh and don't forget Amira's star. Now you were saying?

    Cursed and azuras* damn autocorrect

  • Deandril
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    I loathe the Reds only because they have ruined my fun one too many times. On black water blade NA Pc they would show up in numbers to defend anywhere we attacked even while they were taking keeps themselves.
  • CatchMeTrolling
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    I wish people realized that a lot of people who play EP aren't Skyrim kiddies, a lot of us are people who played Morrowind or Oblivion and other TES games and we wanted to experience those zones because we enjoy the lore, and it's a horrible generalization. That's such a bad generalization and you shouldn't pigeonhole people, all factions are guilty of PVP warcrimes like gate camping, zerging, buff campaigning, and AOE spamming.

    I picked EP because of the lore, I already liked the elder scrolls but I think people assume everyone is Skyrim fanboys because that's the most known one.

  • Jaronking
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Because EP outnumber both alliances combine almost so yes we have to push you guys at the same time so we don't have the entire EP faction Fighting us at 1 keep.You can fight on top Fronts with ease why the other two factions can't. For example you can hold Blue Road for ever.I seen it happen EP held that Keep all night mainly because they had the entire faction in their and would lag crash us all.Really EP isn't good they just have numbers that's why I hate them.

    Side note:EP is really easy way to farm AP off of.


    In my campaign EP doesn't have numbers. We actually have to face zergs, we are always outnumbered. AD currently has the most numbers, especially with everyone quitting and joining them
    Stop freaken lying because you know you are.EP own most campaign on Xbox.AD owns 2-3 DC 1 and EP the rest.Your hardly every get Zerged down you are always Zerging the other factions so admit it.Your getting a taste of your own medicine and we push you back so we don't have to deal with you and we can actually PVP.

    Also again EP still have the most number and outnumber the other faction even with people leaving.

    Loool what are you talking about EP has like 2 servers with the main one being scourge now. AD has more numbers than anyone. Then again, EP really only have chillrend and thornblade again. AD skeleton key, black water blade, had moon curesed blade, have haderus and had thornblade before we took it back...oh and don't forget Amira's star. Now you were saying?

    Again why you lying.

    You guys had Moon Cursed I should know I farmed you all for TV stones their.Also you have Chillrend,Thornblade and last time I was in BWB you guys had it locked down.

    Not to mentioned for AD haderus is Contested so doesn't really count.So they really just have AZura and Skelton Key.Not to mentioned having BWB as a Biff server just makes your Faction look like a even bigger joke which EP had for a long time.

    So keep lying about AD having more Numbers everyone know EP has the most players.
  • Van_0S
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    Ever since I started playing this game I've noticed that people hate EP with a passion. AD and DC will even team up just so EP can't do anything EVEN when EP has NO keeps they'll focus on EP. It goes as far as just letting the other alliance push for emp without resistance, the other day AD didn't even have their home keeps but was busy attacking EP at Arrius while blue zerged the map.

    I completely understand having people you're cool with on other alliances but the whole teaming up against one alliance is corny and ruins the competition because everyone isn't in a all out war like they should be.

    You might say EP has a lot of numbers but if we're being honest every alliance has numbers though it doesn't matter if EP does or don't they'll still get sandwiched just because.

    The reason is EP as more population= more AP.

    In EU Asura, EP as got all their scrolls. So, that is also one of the reasons that they team up.
    Edited by Van_0S on 23 November 2015 23:14
  • Akinos
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    I'll probably get flamed for saying this but whatevs :)

    It does seem like EP on NA PC at least, catches more flak then the other two factions, judging by the sheer amount of hate/zerg threads that get created on these forums about EP, and all the ridiculous things that EP gets accused of that the other two factions don't get accused of, like "lagsploiting".

    Not just here, in game too. I've been in fights where I was outnumbered fighting 3 people, then the other faction comes in, kills me and then goes for whoever is left. I've also witnessed AD and DC standing side by side in a field not attacking other after killing me and my group, though I've not seen that happen since last year.

    EP didn't always have a big population either, but when your faction is the one that has been winning quite frequently since day one, people tend to flock to the winning side, thus making it bigger.
    Edited by Akinos on 23 November 2015 23:44
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Because EP outnumber both alliances combine almost so yes we have to push you guys at the same time so we don't have the entire EP faction Fighting us at 1 keep.You can fight on top Fronts with ease why the other two factions can't. For example you can hold Blue Road for ever.I seen it happen EP held that Keep all night mainly because they had the entire faction in their and would lag crash us all.Really EP isn't good they just have numbers that's why I hate them.

    Side note:EP is really easy way to farm AP off of.


    In my campaign EP doesn't have numbers. We actually have to face zergs, we are always outnumbered. AD currently has the most numbers, especially with everyone quitting and joining them
    Stop freaken lying because you know you are.EP own most campaign on Xbox.AD owns 2-3 DC 1 and EP the rest.Your hardly every get Zerged down you are always Zerging the other factions so admit it.Your getting a taste of your own medicine and we push you back so we don't have to deal with you and we can actually PVP.

    Also again EP still have the most number and outnumber the other faction even with people leaving.

    Loool what are you talking about EP has like 2 servers with the main one being scourge now. AD has more numbers than anyone. Then again, EP really only have chillrend and thornblade again. AD skeleton key, black water blade, had moon curesed blade, have haderus and had thornblade before we took it back...oh and don't forget Amira's star. Now you were saying?

    Again why you lying.

    You guys had Moon Cursed I should know I farmed you all for TV stones their.Also you have Chillrend,Thornblade and last time I was in BWB you guys had it locked down.

    Not to mentioned for AD haderus is Contested so doesn't really count.So they really just have AZura and Skelton Key.Not to mentioned having BWB as a Biff server just makes your Faction look like a even bigger joke which EP had for a long time.

    So keep lying about AD having more Numbers everyone know EP has the most players.

    Lool the fact that you said they don't have Haderus is reason not to even listen to you anymore. And AD has BWB *Facepalm* Whatever you say m, obviously not a dedicated PVP player lol

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    On PC NA anyway, the reason AD has a blood feud with EP is that since before I started playing around 1.4, EP have had more numbers in pvp and have used them mercilessly to grind AD and DC in to the ground.. that's all there is to it. So all things being equal on the map, AD will usually push red.
    Edited by SkylarkAU on 23 November 2015 23:45
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Because EP outnumber both alliances combine almost so yes we have to push you guys at the same time so we don't have the entire EP faction Fighting us at 1 keep.You can fight on top Fronts with ease why the other two factions can't. For example you can hold Blue Road for ever.I seen it happen EP held that Keep all night mainly because they had the entire faction in their and would lag crash us all.Really EP isn't good they just have numbers that's why I hate them.

    Side note:EP is really easy way to farm AP off of.


    In my campaign EP doesn't have numbers. We actually have to face zergs, we are always outnumbered. AD currently has the most numbers, especially with everyone quitting and joining them
    Stop freaken lying because you know you are.EP own most campaign on Xbox.AD owns 2-3 DC 1 and EP the rest.Your hardly every get Zerged down you are always Zerging the other factions so admit it.Your getting a taste of your own medicine and we push you back so we don't have to deal with you and we can actually PVP.

    Also again EP still have the most number and outnumber the other faction even with people leaving.

    Loool what are you talking about EP has like 2 servers with the main one being scourge now. AD has more numbers than anyone. Then again, EP really only have chillrend and thornblade again. AD skeleton key, black water blade, had moon curesed blade, have haderus and had thornblade before we took it back...oh and don't forget Amira's star. Now you were saying?

    Again why you lying.

    You guys had Moon Cursed I should know I farmed you all for TV stones their.Also you have Chillrend,Thornblade and last time I was in BWB you guys had it locked down.

    Not to mentioned for AD haderus is Contested so doesn't really count.So they really just have AZura and Skelton Key.Not to mentioned having BWB as a Biff server just makes your Faction look like a even bigger joke which EP had for a long time.

    So keep lying about AD having more Numbers everyone know EP has the most players.

    Lool the fact that you said they don't have Haderus is reason not to even listen to you anymore. And AD has BWB *Facepalm* Whatever you say m, obviously not a dedicated PVP player lol
    Nahh its not like I play PVP every Single day or anything or that I was just fighting in Hades about a Hour ago.So yes who the real PVPer here.As a member of DC we been the underdogs forever and fought our way out.I still remember when EP basically own Hades DC we didn't give up and kept on fighting we will do the same with AD we aren't giving it up so I say it contested if EP want to give up on it fine with me DC we won't.

    Again like I said the last time I was in BWB EP had it under lock so learn to read.As it is we know Skyrim fanboys like yourself have trouble with that concept so I'll let it slide.

    If you want to see who the real PVPER pick a time and place so I can rekt you across the map.Just don't bring you 23 friends along like EP usually do.
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    SkylarkAU wrote: »
    On PC NA anyway, the reason AD has a blood feud with EP is that since before I started playing around 1.4, EP have had more numbers in pvp and have used them mercilessly to grind AD and DC in to the ground.. that's all there is to it. So all things being equal on the map, AD will usually push red.

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    Akinos wrote: »
    SkylarkAU wrote: »
    On PC NA anyway, the reason AD has a blood feud with EP is that since before I started playing around 1.4, EP have had more numbers in pvp and have used them mercilessly to grind AD and DC in to the ground.. that's all there is to it. So all things being equal on the map, AD will usually push red.

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    The majority of posts here just makes me smile.

    That said, I do have my own theory, hence my post. Now bear in mind that it is just that, a theory, and nothing more. I must say that I mostly feel similarly, but clearly acknowleding that this is a biased perspective.

    When I first heard about the upcoming release of ESO, late 2013, there was already a highly active community of beta testers (tamriel foundry). On their wonderful website, they had some numbers on the title page - whoever created an account there could choose which side they were planning to join upon release. For all the time I followed that page, AD showed up as almost getting to the numbers both other factions had combined.

    Now, as per usual, sites like that tend to be frequented by game nerds more than "casuals" (using that tag without any kind of negative connotation). I would assume that not only a few of said game nerds changed their minds in the hope of evening out populations to achieve a kind of balanced playground.

    Upon release, they did exactly that - some moved to EP, some moved to DC, some stayed AD. Maybe, taking only the community on that and other similar web platforms, it would have achieved a balance.

    But with release, a large influx of "casuals" and fans of the series joined in and EP got the majority of those players, as evident from all those proclaiming that EP is the "zerg faction". In the beginning, EP clearly had the highest numbers.

    With experience of the initial veteran grind duration, which kind of players would the reader assume to re-roll a different faction to again even out the numbers? Exactly, those same game nerds.

    Now you have a situation, where a lot of highly skilled players that may know each other from their interaction on one of the pre-release communities, grouping up against a faction that was perceived to be overwhelming in numbers. The faction with the biggest numbers now had to contend against small but incredibly efficient opponents - with a very logical consequence of using the power of numbers to fight the experience from beta days.

    Those who remember the days of vamp-knight-emperors will understand that 20:1 was sometimes not enough - but 40:1 was. Again, logical consequences.

    Today we are in a situation, where numbers of active, veteran PvP players are actually kind of balanced, but old habits die slowly. That is true for all sides. Nowadays, even those that claim to play "small scale" actually do zerg, what with coordinated proximity, vigor and steel tornados, heal spamming and creative use of game mechanics (looking at you, animation cancelling).

    Now we get people parroting of "EP the zerg faction", justifying their own contribution to the problem with that excuse.

    Unless ZOS puts a stop to this and starts evening out the playfield by putting a stop to some of their main mistakes (animation cancelling, proximity detonation, steel tornado, smart healing, dawnbreaker) and finally acknowleding and implementing the fact that 40 players actually should win against 10, even with a "skill deficit", this kind of weak excuse will not stop.

    No one faction is better than the other, no one faction is less at fault for the state of the game than any other. Running with 70 people on a white wedding dress ork is no better than sneaking up on others with 10 people using precharged prox. Both will only result in one thing: hatred from the victims for being unable to fight back.

    ZOS, get a grip on your game and make it so that one is able to fight back - without a not-thought-through damage debuff.
    Edited by Leandor on 24 November 2015 00:34
  • CatchMeTrolling
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    Jaronking wrote: »
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    Because EP outnumber both alliances combine almost so yes we have to push you guys at the same time so we don't have the entire EP faction Fighting us at 1 keep.You can fight on top Fronts with ease why the other two factions can't. For example you can hold Blue Road for ever.I seen it happen EP held that Keep all night mainly because they had the entire faction in their and would lag crash us all.Really EP isn't good they just have numbers that's why I hate them.

    Side note:EP is really easy way to farm AP off of.


    In my campaign EP doesn't have numbers. We actually have to face zergs, we are always outnumbered. AD currently has the most numbers, especially with everyone quitting and joining them
    Stop freaken lying because you know you are.EP own most campaign on Xbox.AD owns 2-3 DC 1 and EP the rest.Your hardly every get Zerged down you are always Zerging the other factions so admit it.Your getting a taste of your own medicine and we push you back so we don't have to deal with you and we can actually PVP.

    Also again EP still have the most number and outnumber the other faction even with people leaving.

    Loool what are you talking about EP has like 2 servers with the main one being scourge now. AD has more numbers than anyone. Then again, EP really only have chillrend and thornblade again. AD skeleton key, black water blade, had moon curesed blade, have haderus and had thornblade before we took it back...oh and don't forget Amira's star. Now you were saying?

    Again why you lying.

    You guys had Moon Cursed I should know I farmed you all for TV stones their.Also you have Chillrend,Thornblade and last time I was in BWB you guys had it locked down.

    Not to mentioned for AD haderus is Contested so doesn't really count.So they really just have AZura and Skelton Key.Not to mentioned having BWB as a Biff server just makes your Faction look like a even bigger joke which EP had for a long time.

    So keep lying about AD having more Numbers everyone know EP has the most players.

    Lool the fact that you said they don't have Haderus is reason not to even listen to you anymore. And AD has BWB *Facepalm* Whatever you say m, obviously not a dedicated PVP player lol
    Nahh its not like I play PVP every Single day or anything or that I was just fighting in Hades about a Hour ago.So yes who the real PVPer here.As a member of DC we been the underdogs forever and fought our way out.I still remember when EP basically own Hades DC we didn't give up and kept on fighting we will do the same with AD we aren't giving it up so I say it contested if EP want to give up on it fine with me DC we won't.

    Again like I said the last time I was in BWB EP had it under lock so learn to read.As it is we know Skyrim fanboys like yourself have trouble with that concept so I'll let it slide.

    If you want to see who the real PVPER pick a time and place so I can rekt you across the map.Just don't bring you 23 friends along like EP usually do.


    To be honest you just sound like a prick lol ad owned the map for a month straight , blue has only been doing something because they're zerging and the main ad is in scourge farming at the moment. EP has never owned haderus before haderus was balanced, no one owned it. And I'm not a Skyrim fanboy, learn s new comeback you sound like an elder scrolls noob and you're not on my level kid, I fight zergs with clips and vids to back.
  • Jaronking
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Because EP outnumber both alliances combine almost so yes we have to push you guys at the same time so we don't have the entire EP faction Fighting us at 1 keep.You can fight on top Fronts with ease why the other two factions can't. For example you can hold Blue Road for ever.I seen it happen EP held that Keep all night mainly because they had the entire faction in their and would lag crash us all.Really EP isn't good they just have numbers that's why I hate them.

    Side note:EP is really easy way to farm AP off of.


    In my campaign EP doesn't have numbers. We actually have to face zergs, we are always outnumbered. AD currently has the most numbers, especially with everyone quitting and joining them
    Stop freaken lying because you know you are.EP own most campaign on Xbox.AD owns 2-3 DC 1 and EP the rest.Your hardly every get Zerged down you are always Zerging the other factions so admit it.Your getting a taste of your own medicine and we push you back so we don't have to deal with you and we can actually PVP.

    Also again EP still have the most number and outnumber the other faction even with people leaving.

    Loool what are you talking about EP has like 2 servers with the main one being scourge now. AD has more numbers than anyone. Then again, EP really only have chillrend and thornblade again. AD skeleton key, black water blade, had moon curesed blade, have haderus and had thornblade before we took it back...oh and don't forget Amira's star. Now you were saying?

    Again why you lying.

    You guys had Moon Cursed I should know I farmed you all for TV stones their.Also you have Chillrend,Thornblade and last time I was in BWB you guys had it locked down.

    Not to mentioned for AD haderus is Contested so doesn't really count.So they really just have AZura and Skelton Key.Not to mentioned having BWB as a Biff server just makes your Faction look like a even bigger joke which EP had for a long time.

    So keep lying about AD having more Numbers everyone know EP has the most players.

    Lool the fact that you said they don't have Haderus is reason not to even listen to you anymore. And AD has BWB *Facepalm* Whatever you say m, obviously not a dedicated PVP player lol
    Nahh its not like I play PVP every Single day or anything or that I was just fighting in Hades about a Hour ago.So yes who the real PVPer here.As a member of DC we been the underdogs forever and fought our way out.I still remember when EP basically own Hades DC we didn't give up and kept on fighting we will do the same with AD we aren't giving it up so I say it contested if EP want to give up on it fine with me DC we won't.

    Again like I said the last time I was in BWB EP had it under lock so learn to read.As it is we know Skyrim fanboys like yourself have trouble with that concept so I'll let it slide.

    If you want to see who the real PVPER pick a time and place so I can rekt you across the map.Just don't bring you 23 friends along like EP usually do.


    To be honest you just sound like a prick lol ad owned the map for a month straight , blue has only been doing something because they're zerging and the main ad is in scourge farming at the moment. EP has never owned haderus before haderus was balanced, no one owned it. And I'm not a Skyrim fanboy, learn s new comeback you sound like an elder scrolls noob and you're not on my level kid, I fight zergs with clips and vids to back.

    Whatever you say buddy you wonder why no one like EP.Their so full of themselves it hilarious.If you every want to get you @$$ kicked let me know.Its fun making EP rage quit.
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