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Why does everyone hate EP so much?

  • Moglijuana
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    I have nothing but love for EP. Why? Because my group of 12 last night pushed back of zerg of 40+ EP for 3+ hours. Talk about giving gifts of AP lol. Tis the Season!
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  • Hexys
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    Hexys wrote: »
    The main problem with EP on Azura EU is that you either fight nothing or a full AoE spamming zerg. Without lagg this would be fine to counter in a very organised 12 man group. But with lagg skill becomes totally useless.

    There is another point, a guild which can't make a difference during the day because they lack some skill. So they PvDoor in the night.

    haha a player from exile complaining about lag. Im having a good laugh right now. There is a reason we call you lagxile and the reason is that everytime your guild joins a fight with your meteor/proxy/tornado spam it immedeately becomes unplayable. Thank you for making my day :D

    You see eXile that way because the only moment you do see us, is when you are with your own 60 man EP zerg. But why are you in a 60 man EP zerg? I guess it is because your soul gems are worth more alliance points to you then fighting enemy players as a small group.
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  • CatchMeTrolling
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    tist wrote: »
    Because they post in the wrong forum.


    Tistness is that you?
  • Springt-Über-Zwerge
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    Hexys wrote: »
    Hexys wrote: »
    The main problem with EP on Azura EU is that you either fight nothing or a full AoE spamming zerg. Without lagg this would be fine to counter in a very organised 12 man group. But with lagg skill becomes totally useless.

    There is another point, a guild which can't make a difference during the day because they lack some skill. So they PvDoor in the night.

    haha a player from exile complaining about lag. Im having a good laugh right now. There is a reason we call you lagxile and the reason is that everytime your guild joins a fight with your meteor/proxy/tornado spam it immedeately becomes unplayable. Thank you for making my day :D

    You see eXile that way because the only moment you do see us, is when you are with your own 60 man EP zerg. But why are you in a 60 man EP zerg? I guess it is because your soul gems are worth more alliance points to you then fighting enemy players as a small group.

    Im sorry to disappoint you but im solo or small group player most of the time so i dont run with our zergs and if they are around me thats cause i ran into them by chance. but whenever I see your guild at kings or sometimes somewhere else I leave and seek for another fight on the map because the lag can just be better than in your proximity
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  • CatchMeTrolling
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    Moglijuana wrote: »
    I have nothing but love for EP. Why? Because my group of 12 last night pushed back of zerg of 40+ EP for 3+ hours. Talk about giving gifts of AP lol. Tis the Season!


    Let me guess you pulled a zerg ball tactic? Grouping up tightly or in a closed off area spamming aoes against random pugs because we all know that's not happening against any organized group be it EP or not lol Tis is the season to give thanks to pugs
  • AbraXuSeXile
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    Hexys wrote: »
    The main problem with EP on Azura EU is that you either fight nothing or a full AoE spamming zerg. Without lagg this would be fine to counter in a very organised 12 man group. But with lagg skill becomes totally useless.

    There is another point, a guild which can't make a difference during the day because they lack some skill. So they PvDoor in the night.

    haha a player from exile complaining about lag. Im having a good laugh right now. There is a reason we call you lagxile and the reason is that everytime your guild joins a fight with your meteor/proxy/tornado spam it immedeately becomes unplayable. Thank you for making my day :D

    Your entire faction fighting us and we lag you.

    Obvious 10IQ player here folks.
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  • Springt-Über-Zwerge
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    Hexys wrote: »
    The main problem with EP on Azura EU is that you either fight nothing or a full AoE spamming zerg. Without lagg this would be fine to counter in a very organised 12 man group. But with lagg skill becomes totally useless.

    There is another point, a guild which can't make a difference during the day because they lack some skill. So they PvDoor in the night.

    haha a player from exile complaining about lag. Im having a good laugh right now. There is a reason we call you lagxile and the reason is that everytime your guild joins a fight with your meteor/proxy/tornado spam it immedeately becomes unplayable. Thank you for making my day :D

    Your entire faction fighting us and we lag you.

    Obvious 10IQ player here folks.

    salty a bit arent we?
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  • AbraXuSeXile
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    Hexys wrote: »
    The main problem with EP on Azura EU is that you either fight nothing or a full AoE spamming zerg. Without lagg this would be fine to counter in a very organised 12 man group. But with lagg skill becomes totally useless.

    There is another point, a guild which can't make a difference during the day because they lack some skill. So they PvDoor in the night.

    haha a player from exile complaining about lag. Im having a good laugh right now. There is a reason we call you lagxile and the reason is that everytime your guild joins a fight with your meteor/proxy/tornado spam it immedeately becomes unplayable. Thank you for making my day :D

    Your entire faction fighting us and we lag you.

    Obvious 10IQ player here folks.

    salty a bit arent we?

    You have no idea what you're saying.
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  • zornyan
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    Moglijuana wrote: »
    I have nothing but love for EP. Why? Because my group of 12 last night pushed back of zerg of 40+ EP for 3+ hours. Talk about giving gifts of AP lol. Tis the Season!


    Let me guess you pulled a zerg ball tactic? Grouping up tightly or in a closed off area spamming aoes against random pugs because we all know that's not happening against any organized group be it EP or not lol Tis is the season to give thanks to pugs

    Maybe because 40 man EP zergs are made up of terrible players, that's why 7 or 8 DC can beat them...
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    zornyan wrote: »
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    zornyan wrote: »
    Generally because every time I see reds ( and mostly yellows) it's a massive zerg, lost count of the times I've been in the sewers far into DC territory and a massive group comes through.

    The thing that gets me is, their not doing it for stones etc, as when I've had a brief look at their side it's empty, they purely zerg up and come trolling through to DC side of sewers just to be massive trolls.

    Oh and reds are inbreds....don't marry your cousins!

    The sewers is a ghost town, it was your imagination. And at least we don't mate with Orcs.

    The point is reds just seem like childish morons, the players we fight 1v1 generally have a massive lack of skill, infact I got a video of me 1v5 and winning multiple times the other night, every single red I meet seems to be just some zerg that spams steel tornado.

    But it gets demoralizing, we spent an entire day (about 12 hours) fighting the reds on a outnumbered basis, about 12 of us took a group and we're fighting at keep after keep and winning even when outnumbered 2 to 1.

    But after that? Massive red zerg of death, literally had them pouring in from every angle constantly, it turned into 20 to 1 and it just seems pathetic that they only ever win by numbers not skill.

    Then maybe you are fighting the wrong players but dont call other players childish morons just cause a few of them cant play. I mean I dont call DC morons just because exile are. Those zergs do exist on the other sides too thats nothing EP specific.
    I guess you are a solo player just like me so you avoid your own zergs and try to find smallscale pvp thats why you think only ep has those massive zergs. Thats just plain wrong.

    So what that happens. Same thing happened to me yesterday we had a zerg dc had one. we won the whole map and our players then elsewhere to pve or off. Suddenly dc outnumbered us by far but they never attacked unless it was at least 3v1 thats no skill too thats just outnumbered.
    See I can complain about the same thing everyone does it as soon as they have the numbers that has nothing to do with EP and insulting us therefor is just idk Id call it childish but i dont want to insult you back.

    Yeah a blue zerg bigger than a red one ....lol I needed a good laugh.

    I play at all times throughout the day, reds have a constant 3 bars across 3 servers, you can't go near a red keep without 50+ players storming out from nowhere, I really do my best to find 1v1 or 1vx , but I only ever find AD to do that with, as I never see reds go less than groups of 6 anymore.

    Also reds are the worst campers ever, I've lost count the sheer amount of times I've logged into cyro and there's been 30+ reds sitting out southern high rock, WITH an emperor....camping out like 2 players...

    Go to spellbreaker where daggerfall army gangs up with prootchs raid and their entire damn faction.
    Edited by Master_Kas on 24 November 2015 17:56
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  • CatchMeTrolling
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    zornyan wrote: »
    Moglijuana wrote: »
    I have nothing but love for EP. Why? Because my group of 12 last night pushed back of zerg of 40+ EP for 3+ hours. Talk about giving gifts of AP lol. Tis the Season!


    Let me guess you pulled a zerg ball tactic? Grouping up tightly or in a closed off area spamming aoes against random pugs because we all know that's not happening against any organized group be it EP or not lol Tis is the season to give thanks to pugs

    Maybe because 40 man EP zergs are made up of terrible players, that's why 7 or 8 DC can beat them...

    The same can be said about DC, past few days they've been zerging the entire map and barely can take on a few people. Make good clips for sure, though I highly doubt you're going to wipe 40 people all at once, doesn't matter how good you are, 40 people come at you at once you're dead.
  • tist
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    tist wrote: »
    Because they post in the wrong forum.


    Tistness is that you?

    Yeah, just trollin you.
  • Springt-Über-Zwerge
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    Hexys wrote: »
    The main problem with EP on Azura EU is that you either fight nothing or a full AoE spamming zerg. Without lagg this would be fine to counter in a very organised 12 man group. But with lagg skill becomes totally useless.

    There is another point, a guild which can't make a difference during the day because they lack some skill. So they PvDoor in the night.

    haha a player from exile complaining about lag. Im having a good laugh right now. There is a reason we call you lagxile and the reason is that everytime your guild joins a fight with your meteor/proxy/tornado spam it immedeately becomes unplayable. Thank you for making my day :D

    Your entire faction fighting us and we lag you.

    Obvious 10IQ player here folks.

    salty a bit arent we?

    You have no idea what you're saying.

    Then please tell me oh almighty AbraxusExploitus :P
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  • vamp_emily
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    Is there something wrong with hating your enemies?

    This is a pic of 6 EP members T-Bagging me. Seriously? Did I really need 6 T-bags?

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  • CatchMeTrolling
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    vamp_emily wrote: »
    Is there something wrong with hating your enemies?

    This is a pic of 6 EP members T-Bagging me. Seriously? Did I really need 6 T-bags?

    t-bag.png


    Yes , it's good for the soul and studies show it also contains vitamin d.

  • Moglijuana
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    Moglijuana wrote: »
    I have nothing but love for EP. Why? Because my group of 12 last night pushed back of zerg of 40+ EP for 3+ hours. Talk about giving gifts of AP lol. Tis the Season!


    Let me guess you pulled a zerg ball tactic? Grouping up tightly or in a closed off area spamming aoes against random pugs because we all know that's not happening against any organized group be it EP or not lol Tis is the season to give thanks to pugs

    The other way around buddy, we used maneuverability and smart tactics to take out a constant zerg balling EP group at one of the gates. FOR 3 HOURS. All we did was go up and down the floors kiting people as we went. Good try trying to make EP look good XD.

    ALSO, can a TWELVE man group be considered a zerg? lol
    Edited by Moglijuana on 24 November 2015 22:09
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  • CatchMeTrolling
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    Moglijuana wrote: »
    Moglijuana wrote: »
    I have nothing but love for EP. Why? Because my group of 12 last night pushed back of zerg of 40+ EP for 3+ hours. Talk about giving gifts of AP lol. Tis the Season!


    Let me guess you pulled a zerg ball tactic? Grouping up tightly or in a closed off area spamming aoes against random pugs because we all know that's not happening against any organized group be it EP or not lol Tis is the season to give thanks to pugs

    The other way around buddy, we used maneuverability and smart tactics to take out a constant zerg balling EP group at one of the gates. FOR 3 HOURS. All we did was go up and down the floors kiting people as we went. Good try trying to make EP look good XD.

    ALSO, can a TWELVE man group be considered a zerg? lol

    The only way you'd stay alive is by using Zerg tactics and abusing the aoe cap, trust me I know. It's more impressive when 30 people are attacking you at once and it's taking forever for them to kill you.

    And you don't have to be a big Zerg in order to Zerg ball.
  • Moglijuana
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    Moglijuana wrote: »
    Moglijuana wrote: »
    I have nothing but love for EP. Why? Because my group of 12 last night pushed back of zerg of 40+ EP for 3+ hours. Talk about giving gifts of AP lol. Tis the Season!


    Let me guess you pulled a zerg ball tactic? Grouping up tightly or in a closed off area spamming aoes against random pugs because we all know that's not happening against any organized group be it EP or not lol Tis is the season to give thanks to pugs

    The other way around buddy, we used maneuverability and smart tactics to take out a constant zerg balling EP group at one of the gates. FOR 3 HOURS. All we did was go up and down the floors kiting people as we went. Good try trying to make EP look good XD.

    ALSO, can a TWELVE man group be considered a zerg? lol

    The only way you'd stay alive is by using Zerg tactics and abusing the aoe cap, trust me I know. It's more impressive when 30 people are attacking you at once and it's taking forever for them to kill you.

    And you don't have to be a big Zerg in order to Zerg ball.

    Considering I don't have ONE AOE on my bar...LOL. Yea must be that.
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  • svartorn
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    Biggest cryfest thread in a while.
  • k2blader
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    Personally what I dislike about EP is they are the current reigning zerg faction. Yes, all factions zerg and it's a natural result of Cyrodiil design, but EP takes it to a whole new level as they are more often at 3 bars or poplocked compared to AD/DC even during off peak hours. And EP "leadership" and types of players who should be skilled enough to not zerg seem to lead and encourage the rest of their faction in zerging.

    Also when I think of EP I think of the more egregious exploiters and faction switchers, though some who went from AD to DC are pretty much as bad. Whether they still play or quit the game doesn't matter.
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  • CatchMeTrolling
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    Moglijuana wrote: »
    Moglijuana wrote: »
    Moglijuana wrote: »
    I have nothing but love for EP. Why? Because my group of 12 last night pushed back of zerg of 40+ EP for 3+ hours. Talk about giving gifts of AP lol. Tis the Season!


    Let me guess you pulled a zerg ball tactic? Grouping up tightly or in a closed off area spamming aoes against random pugs because we all know that's not happening against any organized group be it EP or not lol Tis is the season to give thanks to pugs

    The other way around buddy, we used maneuverability and smart tactics to take out a constant zerg balling EP group at one of the gates. FOR 3 HOURS. All we did was go up and down the floors kiting people as we went. Good try trying to make EP look good XD.

    ALSO, can a TWELVE man group be considered a zerg? lol

    The only way you'd stay alive is by using Zerg tactics and abusing the aoe cap, trust me I know. It's more impressive when 30 people are attacking you at once and it's taking forever for them to kill you.

    And you don't have to be a big Zerg in order to Zerg ball.

    Considering I don't have ONE AOE on my bar...LOL. Yea must be that.

    I said abusing the aoe cap not using aoes, meaning you just stay together which lets you take less damage.
  • CatchMeTrolling
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    svartorn wrote: »
    Biggest cryfest thread in a while.

    One of those guys huh
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    One of those guys huh

    Yes, yes you are one of "those guys".
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  • CatchMeTrolling
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    Reverb wrote: »

    One of those guys huh

    Yes, yes you are one of "those guys".

    You must really love me

  • revonine
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    AD are worst for the zerging lately at least on Azuras EU PS4, can't even attempt to take a keep with anything less than 24 players and even then 9/10 we get mowed down anyway it just takes longer.

    EP have multiple servers poplocked but they seem more spread out lately, not much zerging from them happening on Azura's. It wasn't always this way though. Also I'd like to note that EP players are THE WORST for teabagging out of the three in my experience. I've had 5+ people teabag my corpse multiple times as if they've won a great victory. I even had one guy that WAS SO BUSY teabagging my team mates corpse that his group had moved ahead so I was able to take him out and revive my mate. Felt so so good.

    EDIT:
    vamp_emily wrote: »
    Is there something wrong with hating your enemies?

    This is a pic of 6 EP members T-Bagging me. Seriously? Did I really need 6 T-bags?

    t-bag.png


    I just noticed your pic after I made my own post lol. I guess I'm not the only one receiving some EP bag love.
    Edited by revonine on 25 November 2015 00:43
  • svartorn
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    Reverb wrote: »

    One of those guys huh

    Yes, yes you are one of "those guys".

    Yeah.

    I love my EP guildmates and I always try to run with competitive groups on Azuras NA PC.

    It hasn't felt like EP outnumbers anyone for a long time.
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    Don't mind me, I'll just sit down here munching on this while reading this incredibly entertaining thread
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  • CatchMeTrolling
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    Tryxus wrote: »
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    Don't mind me, I'll just sit down here munching on this while reading this incredibly entertaining thread

    Thank you, thank you we will be here all week

  • CatchMeTrolling
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    revonine wrote: »
    AD are worst for the zerging lately at least on Azuras EU PS4, can't even attempt to take a keep with anything less than 24 players and even then 9/10 we get mowed down anyway it just takes longer.

    EP have multiple servers poplocked but they seem more spread out lately, not much zerging from them happening on Azura's. It wasn't always this way though. Also I'd like to note that EP players are THE WORST for teabagging out of the three in my experience. I've had 5+ people teabag my corpse multiple times as if they've won a great victory. I even had one guy that WAS SO BUSY teabagging my team mates corpse that his group had moved ahead so I was able to take him out and revive my mate. Felt so so good.

    AD has been the biggest zergers on Xbox too but everyone tries to say EP does it the most lol I'm guessing it's because of PC history
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