Glass looks EXTREMELY ugly !

Xendyn

Slayer9292_ESO wrote: »

I believe this is concept art from 2014. What happened, this actually looks cool.

http://skyrimfansite.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Glass-Weapons-Elder-Scrolls-Online.gif

I've seen these laying around in weapon stalls and such, or at least I did before Justice System. Not sure if they're still around. I always coveted them as I loved the design. Thought to myself, "Those wouldn't be in here if we weren't going to get Glass someday".

I want my green gear.

Acrolas

Malachite can be banded or milky. And the Shard definitely looks like a combination of both.
But the refined style material has a lot more clarity, so the final product should definitely be more pure green with fewer color interruptions.

It's almost like they rushed this through development and attached a ludicrous acquisition model to it so that they'd have a few extra months to finish the actual models in the game before anyone saw them.

Well, that worked out now didn't it...

Erraln

I think it looks great

The actual glass material sections are dyeable, so how good or bad it looks is up to the player. I agree that the lack of dyeing reduces the beauty of the weapons... Hopefully that gets released at some point.

Elsonso

The green malachite makes it somewhat necessary to make something green, imho.

I am thinking that there may be a build mistake with the glass stuff, but if there is not, they are very good at doing recolors. If they decide to change it, they can easily do it.

willymchilybily

This thread made me laugh. People saying it looks nothing like Glass armour! its not green! cause glass is green. We know Tamriel better than you Devs!

... I agree malachite is bright green from the copper oxide (CuCO3.Cu(OH)2) but isn't technically Glass. if this is truely glass armor maybe they didn't have the ability to add the oxides required to the glass back in this era in tamriels history?

don't get me wrong though i had high hopes for a tinge of green.

Dracane

willymchilybily wrote: »

This thread made me laugh. People saying it looks nothing like Glass armour! its not green! cause glass is green. We know Tamriel better than you Devs!

... I agree malachite is bright green from the copper oxide (CuCO3.Cu(OH)2) but isn't technically Glass. if this is truely glass armor maybe they didn't have the ability to add the oxides required to the glass back in this era in tamriels history?

don't get me wrong though i had high hopes for a tinge of green.

Glass armor is supposed to be made of vulcanic glass, which is a mix of different materials, including malachite.
Glass armor has always been green in the game and it used to be sooo epic in Skyrim, this armor was made for High Elves.

Zenimax can't just come along and make it grey-black. This makes no sense and looks ugly in my opinion.

NightSky

They went backwards is my guess.

Alcast

Erraln wrote: »

I think it looks great

The actual glass material sections are dyeable, so how good or bad it looks is up to the player. I agree that the lack of dyeing reduces the beauty of the weapons... Hopefully that gets released at some point.

uhh i want that, nice

starkerealm

Dracane wrote: »

willymchilybily wrote: »

This thread made me laugh. People saying it looks nothing like Glass armour! its not green! cause glass is green. We know Tamriel better than you Devs!

... I agree malachite is bright green from the copper oxide (CuCO3.Cu(OH)2) but isn't technically Glass. if this is truely glass armor maybe they didn't have the ability to add the oxides required to the glass back in this era in tamriels history?

don't get me wrong though i had high hopes for a tinge of green.

Glass armor is supposed to be made of vulcanic glass, which is a mix of different materials, including malachite.
Glass armor has always been green in the game and it used to be sooo epic in Skyrim, this armor was made for High Elves.

Zenimax can't just come along and make it grey-black. This makes no sense and looks ugly in my opinion.

Especially since the volcanic grey-black glass already exists in game and is a different material.

SantieClaws

Glass armour is made from malachite shards. Malachite is a reasonably vivid yet sort of green colour. It isn't volcanic glass at all it is copper oxide. How they made the original connection between malachite and glass is beyond me.

There are other sorts of volcanic glass - mostly notably obsidian which can be black, black n white or even a sort of rusty red. Got two bits on my desk in front of me now.

Dracane

starkerealm wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

willymchilybily wrote: »

This thread made me laugh. People saying it looks nothing like Glass armour! its not green! cause glass is green. We know Tamriel better than you Devs!

... I agree malachite is bright green from the copper oxide (CuCO3.Cu(OH)2) but isn't technically Glass. if this is truely glass armor maybe they didn't have the ability to add the oxides required to the glass back in this era in tamriels history?

don't get me wrong though i had high hopes for a tinge of green.

Glass armor is supposed to be made of vulcanic glass, which is a mix of different materials, including malachite.
Glass armor has always been green in the game and it used to be sooo epic in Skyrim, this armor was made for High Elves.

Zenimax can't just come along and make it grey-black. This makes no sense and looks ugly in my opinion.

Especially since the volcanic grey-black glass already exists in game and is a different material.

Ebony.

Lorewise, this malachite glass that we know can be found in vulcanos and is the result of Malachite and Moonstone being combined due to the heat.

Rosveen

willymchilybily wrote: »

This thread made me laugh. People saying it looks nothing like Glass armour! its not green! cause glass is green. We know Tamriel better than you Devs!

... I agree malachite is bright green from the copper oxide (CuCO3.Cu(OH)2) but isn't technically Glass. if this is truely glass armor maybe they didn't have the ability to add the oxides required to the glass back in this era in tamriels history?

don't get me wrong though i had high hopes for a tinge of green.

Tamriel glass isn't Earth glass, just like Tamriel ebony isn't Earth ebony. Your chemical knowledge is irrelevant. Read up on glass armor lore (UESP will help), look at glass armor in the previous games, then you'll understand why it needs to be green. Malachite = glass in this setting. Raw glass was green in Morrowind.

You see, people requested glass armor because it's one of the most iconic TES armors. Implementing a "glass" motif which looks nothing like the one people know and love was a mistake.

starkerealm

Rosveen wrote: »

willymchilybily wrote: »

This thread made me laugh. People saying it looks nothing like Glass armour! its not green! cause glass is green. We know Tamriel better than you Devs!

... I agree malachite is bright green from the copper oxide (CuCO3.Cu(OH)2) but isn't technically Glass. if this is truely glass armor maybe they didn't have the ability to add the oxides required to the glass back in this era in tamriels history?

don't get me wrong though i had high hopes for a tinge of green.

Tamriel glass isn't Earth glass, just like Tamriel ebony isn't Earth ebony. Your chemical knowledge is irrelevant. Read up on glass armor lore (UESP will help), look at glass armor in the previous games, then you'll understand why it needs to be green. Malachite = glass in this setting. Raw glass was green in Morrowind.

You see, people requested glass armor because it's one of the most iconic TES armors. Implementing a "glass" motif which looks nothing like the one people know and love was a mistake.

It's probably worth pointing out, Ebony is actually a Aedric infused obsidian in the Elder Scrolls. I think specifically infused by the blood of Lorkhan, but, the point stands, you're crafting obsidian armor.

Erraln

Rosveen wrote: »

Implementing a "glass" motif which looks nothing like the one people know and love was a mistake.

It is green if you want it to be. I would suggest Dominion Conqueror Yellow, or Ophidian Jade. I don't have a piece to play with currently, though, so if those turn out less than ideal, try others.

Dracane

starkerealm wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

willymchilybily wrote: »

This thread made me laugh. People saying it looks nothing like Glass armour! its not green! cause glass is green. We know Tamriel better than you Devs!

... I agree malachite is bright green from the copper oxide (CuCO3.Cu(OH)2) but isn't technically Glass. if this is truely glass armor maybe they didn't have the ability to add the oxides required to the glass back in this era in tamriels history?

don't get me wrong though i had high hopes for a tinge of green.

Tamriel glass isn't Earth glass, just like Tamriel ebony isn't Earth ebony. Your chemical knowledge is irrelevant. Read up on glass armor lore (UESP will help), look at glass armor in the previous games, then you'll understand why it needs to be green. Malachite = glass in this setting. Raw glass was green in Morrowind.

You see, people requested glass armor because it's one of the most iconic TES armors. Implementing a "glass" motif which looks nothing like the one people know and love was a mistake.

It's probably worth pointing out, Ebony is actually a Aedric infused obsidian in the Elder Scrolls. I think specifically infused by the blood of Lorkhan, but, the point stands, you're crafting obsidian armor.

Lorkhan cannot really be considered an Aedra. Aedra is an elvish word after all and Aedra are 'Our ancestors' Lorkhan is no ancestor. So he is no real Aedra, rather a demon.

starkerealm

Dracane wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

willymchilybily wrote: »

This thread made me laugh. People saying it looks nothing like Glass armour! its not green! cause glass is green. We know Tamriel better than you Devs!

... I agree malachite is bright green from the copper oxide (CuCO3.Cu(OH)2) but isn't technically Glass. if this is truely glass armor maybe they didn't have the ability to add the oxides required to the glass back in this era in tamriels history?

don't get me wrong though i had high hopes for a tinge of green.

Tamriel glass isn't Earth glass, just like Tamriel ebony isn't Earth ebony. Your chemical knowledge is irrelevant. Read up on glass armor lore (UESP will help), look at glass armor in the previous games, then you'll understand why it needs to be green. Malachite = glass in this setting. Raw glass was green in Morrowind.

You see, people requested glass armor because it's one of the most iconic TES armors. Implementing a "glass" motif which looks nothing like the one people know and love was a mistake.

It's probably worth pointing out, Ebony is actually a Aedric infused obsidian in the Elder Scrolls. I think specifically infused by the blood of Lorkhan, but, the point stands, you're crafting obsidian armor.

Lorkhan cannot really be considered an Aedra. Aedra is an elvish word after all and Aedra are 'Our ancestors' Lorkhan is no ancestor. So he is no real Aedra, rather a demon.

Well, the problem there is that there are no demons in the Elder Scrolls cosmology. Extradimensional entities? Sure. Beings with godlike power? Sure. Demons? Not so much. While the word Aedra is Elven, the beings it refer to predate the language, and yes, Lorkhan is usually referred to as an Aedra, and is roughly the same class of being as Akatosh and the other divines.

Dracane

starkerealm wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

willymchilybily wrote: »

This thread made me laugh. People saying it looks nothing like Glass armour! its not green! cause glass is green. We know Tamriel better than you Devs!

... I agree malachite is bright green from the copper oxide (CuCO3.Cu(OH)2) but isn't technically Glass. if this is truely glass armor maybe they didn't have the ability to add the oxides required to the glass back in this era in tamriels history?

don't get me wrong though i had high hopes for a tinge of green.

Tamriel glass isn't Earth glass, just like Tamriel ebony isn't Earth ebony. Your chemical knowledge is irrelevant. Read up on glass armor lore (UESP will help), look at glass armor in the previous games, then you'll understand why it needs to be green. Malachite = glass in this setting. Raw glass was green in Morrowind.

You see, people requested glass armor because it's one of the most iconic TES armors. Implementing a "glass" motif which looks nothing like the one people know and love was a mistake.

It's probably worth pointing out, Ebony is actually a Aedric infused obsidian in the Elder Scrolls. I think specifically infused by the blood of Lorkhan, but, the point stands, you're crafting obsidian armor.

Lorkhan cannot really be considered an Aedra. Aedra is an elvish word after all and Aedra are 'Our ancestors' Lorkhan is no ancestor. So he is no real Aedra, rather a demon.

Well, the problem there is that there are no demons in the Elder Scrolls cosmology. Extradimensional entities? Sure. Beings with godlike power? Sure. Demons? Not so much. While the word Aedra is Elven, the beings it refer to predate the language, and yes, Lorkhan is usually referred to as an Aedra, and is roughly the same class of being as Akatosh and the other divines.

Of couuurse, demons don't exists. It was my personal opinion on him like saying 'Get lost you demon!'
Even though I've heared NPCs using the word 'Demon' in The Elder Scrolls. But NPC's in TESO also use dirty and violent language, which I've never heared before in other TES games. At least I can't remember.

hrothbern

Rosveen wrote: »

You see, people requested glass armor because it's one of the most iconic TES armors. Implementing a "glass" motif which looks nothing like the one people know and love was a mistake.

"for the love of TES"

Dear ZOS would you please make the statement that there is a glitch in the color...
.... and not a glitch in keeping up the TES roots of this game.

starkerealm

Dracane wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

willymchilybily wrote: »

This thread made me laugh. People saying it looks nothing like Glass armour! its not green! cause glass is green. We know Tamriel better than you Devs!

... I agree malachite is bright green from the copper oxide (CuCO3.Cu(OH)2) but isn't technically Glass. if this is truely glass armor maybe they didn't have the ability to add the oxides required to the glass back in this era in tamriels history?

don't get me wrong though i had high hopes for a tinge of green.

Tamriel glass isn't Earth glass, just like Tamriel ebony isn't Earth ebony. Your chemical knowledge is irrelevant. Read up on glass armor lore (UESP will help), look at glass armor in the previous games, then you'll understand why it needs to be green. Malachite = glass in this setting. Raw glass was green in Morrowind.

You see, people requested glass armor because it's one of the most iconic TES armors. Implementing a "glass" motif which looks nothing like the one people know and love was a mistake.

It's probably worth pointing out, Ebony is actually a Aedric infused obsidian in the Elder Scrolls. I think specifically infused by the blood of Lorkhan, but, the point stands, you're crafting obsidian armor.

Lorkhan cannot really be considered an Aedra. Aedra is an elvish word after all and Aedra are 'Our ancestors' Lorkhan is no ancestor. So he is no real Aedra, rather a demon.

Well, the problem there is that there are no demons in the Elder Scrolls cosmology. Extradimensional entities? Sure. Beings with godlike power? Sure. Demons? Not so much. While the word Aedra is Elven, the beings it refer to predate the language, and yes, Lorkhan is usually referred to as an Aedra, and is roughly the same class of being as Akatosh and the other divines.

Of couuurse, demons don't exists. It was my personal opinion on him like saying 'Get lost you demon!'
Even though I've heared NPCs using the word 'Demon' in The Elder Scrolls. But NPC's in TESO also use dirty and violent language, which I've never heared before in other TES games. At least I can't remember.

Tamriel became a much more family friendly environment with the rise of the Septim dynasty. Of course, as Uriel VII's reign came to an end, they became more puritanical about things like nudity... and then he died and everything went horribly wrong.

But, yeah, Lorkhan is an Aedra, even if the term post dates his demise/new career as a dwemer mantle piece.

Xerosus

I have the same issue with weapons and armor changing colors depennding on the material used for them. Ebon look the best in my opinion. But anything void related looks horrendous.

xaraan

I like it.

They made portions of it shiny enough so that when dyed it will have a good reflective quality. You know if it was permanently green just as many players would be upset they couldn't dye it differently. So at least you can dye it to look like traditional glass if you want.

Now hopefully weapon/shield dyes will be out soon to fix the rest.

starkerealm

Xerosus wrote: »

I have the same issue with weapons and armor changing colors depennding on the material used for them. Ebon look the best in my opinion. But anything void related looks horrendous.

Gold Voidsteel Ancient Elf blades aren't too bad.

Rosveen

Erraln wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Implementing a "glass" motif which looks nothing like the one people know and love was a mistake.

It is green if you want it to be. I would suggest Dominion Conqueror Yellow, or Ophidian Jade. I don't have a piece to play with currently, though, so if those turn out less than ideal, try others.

We can't dye weapons and shields. Besides, glass armor should be green by default. If ZOS didn't want to make it green because it might mess with dyes, so they chose a more neutral base, they should talk to us and explain their reasoning. I know they might be reluctant to do so after the Redguard/Orc ***, but it's still better than silence. They interview the devs at ESO Live, why not invite someone from the art team to talk about armor designs?

nimander99

@ZOS_RichLambert I think you guys kinda dropped the ball on Glass bro I was truly hoping for actual glass i.e. Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim.

One more edit: I'm not saying I think the glass motif armor looks bad, quite the opposite, I do like it... just really hoping for shiny.

Alcast

starkerealm wrote: »

Xerosus wrote: »

I have the same issue with weapons and armor changing colors depennding on the material used for them. Ebon look the best in my opinion. But anything void related looks horrendous.

Gold Voidsteel Ancient Elf blades aren't too bad.

niceeee

Gilvoth

starkerealm wrote: »

Xerosus wrote: »

I have the same issue with weapons and armor changing colors depennding on the material used for them. Ebon look the best in my opinion. But anything void related looks horrendous.

Gold Voidsteel Ancient Elf blades aren't too bad.

now THAT DEFINATELY looks like nothing but UTTER Perfection!
im serious thats a very beautiful protrayel of a mix from morrowind skyrim AND oblivion if thats even possible, how the hell it was accomplished im no idea but wow thats beautiful and just right. loveing it but, thats only the great sword.
now we need the armor and the daggers and rest of that glass set to take shape as well. and i dont think is possible without complete over-haul.

starkerealm

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Xerosus wrote: »

I have the same issue with weapons and armor changing colors depennding on the material used for them. Ebon look the best in my opinion. But anything void related looks horrendous.

Gold Voidsteel Ancient Elf blades aren't too bad.

now THAT DEFINATELY looks like nothing but UTTER Perfection!
im serious thats a very beautiful protrayel of a mix from morrowind skyrim AND oblivion if thats even possible, how the hell it was accomplished im no idea but wow thats beautiful and just right. loveing it but, thats only the great sword.
now we need the armor and the daggers and rest of that glass set to take shape as well. and i dont think is possible without complete over-haul.

That's Ancient Elf, not Glass.

I mean, it was heavily suggested in the motif books that the green material is Malachite. But, still, that style's been around since launch.

Gilvoth

starkerealm

The Ancient Elf dagger (calicinum, upgraded to purple).


The Ancient Elf Sword (calicinium, upgraded to purple).



Sorry, their enchantments aren't depleted.

But, yeah, if you want glass style weapons in game, right now, then the purple and gold Ancient Elf blades are a better choice.

starkerealm

Incidentally blue Ancient Elf weapons look kinda like Stahlrim, or did before 1.4. So that option's open to you, if you really want it. The same basic tier 4 mesh, but still.