dw or staff?

chevalierknight

Im magic nightblade whats better dw or staff? i read that dw gives you more spell power but when i use a staff its the same does the last passive give you spell powe the sword 10%?

Can i get a detailed answer plz

DeanTheCat

The main benifit of a Destruction Staff (Resto staff is mandatory, seriously) is it's range, along with skills like Force Shock and Destructive Touch. Also, a Destruction Staff provides an additional 10% spell penetration, but this only applies to Destruction Staff abilities. This may be useful when up against players wearing Nirnhoned armor. In addition, it's pretty much the Nightblade's only source of elemental damage.

On the other hand, Dual Wield allows for an additional 260 Spell Damage, as well as 1 additional set bouns (So if you were to use Torug's Pact Swords for example, you can have up to 447 additional spell damage along with 5% extra damage). The downside is that you lack a ranged light attack, and your light/heavy attacks will hit like a wet noodle. In addition, none of the passives or skills other then Ruffian, Dual Wield Expert and Twin Blade and Blunt offers any benifit to you.

Both the Destruction Staff and Twinned Swords have their benefits, so it's really up to you what style do you prefer.

chevalierknight

Think ill stick with dw as i dont have any room in my build for a staff abilty and iv tried it dont like being open for attack with there every attack

chevalierknight

Allso im using healing word with mist form as you said i need resto

DeanTheCat

Block-Casting (What you are most likely doing) is going to get gutted for your style of build due to 1.7 changes to stamina regen while blocking. You will now regenerate exactly 0 stamina while blocking, and since you are blocking without a shield + in light armor, your stamina is going to run dry in seconds. You may need to re-think your style of play.

chevalierknight

DeanTheCat wrote: »

Block-Casting (What you are most likely doing) is going to get gutted for your style of build due to 1.7 changes to stamina regen while blocking. You will now regenerate exactly 0 stamina while blocking, and since you are blocking without a shield + in light armor, your stamina is going to run dry in seconds. You may need to re-think your style of play.

No i use conceled weapon and cloak with griple and use foot work i cant block cast need the stam for cc brake. Why did you think i did?

Eejit1331

chevalierknight wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

Block-Casting (What you are most likely doing) is going to get gutted for your style of build due to 1.7 changes to stamina regen while blocking. You will now regenerate exactly 0 stamina while blocking, and since you are blocking without a shield + in light armor, your stamina is going to run dry in seconds. You may need to re-think your style of play.

No i use conceled weapon and cloak with griple and use foot work i cant block cast need the stam for cc brake. Why did you think i did?

I run the same style. It is very effective and fun. I don't need to block and I save my stamina for dodge rolls prior to cloak.

chevalierknight

Eejit1331 wrote: »

chevalierknight wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

Block-Casting (What you are most likely doing) is going to get gutted for your style of build due to 1.7 changes to stamina regen while blocking. You will now regenerate exactly 0 stamina while blocking, and since you are blocking without a shield + in light armor, your stamina is going to run dry in seconds. You may need to re-think your style of play.

No i use conceled weapon and cloak with griple and use foot work i cant block cast need the stam for cc brake. Why did you think i did?

I run the same style. It is very effective and fun. I don't need to block and I save my stamina for dodge rolls prior to cloak.

Yeh if i get stunned i use the 6s and stam i have left toroll animation cancel my conceled weapon hits inbetween cloaks makes me really have to hit plus the vampire sonic stealth

JDar

Dual wield resto staff is a popular combo

DeanTheCat

chevalierknight wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

Block-Casting (What you are most likely doing) is going to get gutted for your style of build due to 1.7 changes to stamina regen while blocking. You will now regenerate exactly 0 stamina while blocking, and since you are blocking without a shield + in light armor, your stamina is going to run dry in seconds. You may need to re-think your style of play.

No i use conceled weapon and cloak with griple and use foot work i cant block cast need the stam for cc brake. Why did you think i did?

Oh. I misinterpreted the phrasing of your other post.

chevalierknight wrote: »

Think ill stick with dw as i dont have any room in my build for a staff abilty and iv tried it dont like being open for attack with there every attack

Usually people who say that are the 24/7 perma-block casters. That's why I assumed that you were block casting. My apologies.

Xqluded

Honestly there is no debate. As stated above a proven winner for Magicka NB for s while has been dw/resto staff.

chevalierknight

Xqluded wrote: »

Honestly there is no debate. As stated above a proven winner for Magicka NB for s while has been dw/resto staff.

I dont see how theses no debate deanthecat just made a good debate

Xeniph

The only debate is if a staff suites your play style more.

DW is the clear winner for a magicka NB. We have so many ways to close a gap, and do it while hidden it's not even funny.

TheBull

It's tough OP. The question is will you staff heavy/light attacks make up for you loss of spell power. I recommend you try both.