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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

supprise attack bug\buff

chevalierknight
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On xbox if you hit someone not stealthed or cloaked there health bar cracks showing they are debuffed. Is the tool tip wrong stating you only get the debuff if stealth\invs or is it giving it anyway
Edited by chevalierknight on 4 July 2015 15:08
  • chevalierknight
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    None got an answer?
  • KatzMainTank
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    Gotta video? What weapons are you using?
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  • chevalierknight
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    Gotta video? What weapons are you using?

    I tested it with swords axes daggers and mace the damage is the same with light and heavy attacks after i use supprise attack from stealth or not, Health bar allways cracks
    Edited by chevalierknight on 4 July 2015 19:49
  • KatzMainTank
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    http://www.esohead.com/skills/25260-surprise-attack

    New Effect:
    Ability now scales off Weapon Damage and Max Stamina. Reduces target's armor on hit.

    Hope that answers your question.
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  • Jakeol
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    The stun only occurs from stealth, the armor debuff applies every hit regardless of stealth.
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  • chevalierknight
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    Gotta video? What weapons are you using?

    I tested it with swords axes daggers and mace the damage is the same with light and heavy attacks after i use supprise attack from stealth or not, Health bar allways cracks
    http://www.esohead.com/skills/25260-surprise-attack

    New Effect:
    Ability now scales off Weapon Damage and Max Stamina. Reduces target's armor on hit.

    Hope that answers your question.
    Jakeol wrote: »
    The stun only occurs from stealth, the armor debuff applies every hit regardless of stealth.

    So the second bit of the tool tip is wrong ? "enemy hit from stealth or invisiblty are effected with frackure" or is null void after new effect
    Edited by chevalierknight on 5 July 2015 00:30
  • KatzMainTank
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    Gotta video? What weapons are you using?

    I tested it with swords axes daggers and mace the damage is the same with light and heavy attacks after i use supprise attack from stealth or not, Health bar allways cracks
    http://www.esohead.com/skills/25260-surprise-attack

    New Effect:
    Ability now scales off Weapon Damage and Max Stamina. Reduces target's armor on hit.

    Hope that answers your question.
    Jakeol wrote: »
    The stun only occurs from stealth, the armor debuff applies every hit regardless of stealth.

    So the second bit of the tool tip is wrong ? "enemy hit from stealth or invisiblty are effected with frackure" or is null void after new effect

    I see what your saying now! Let me look around some more...brb
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  • KatzMainTank
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    Tested it. I didn't see any cracking happening outside of stealth. Only SA from stealth and even sometime it didn't proc. Wouldn't be surprised if it was bugged.
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  • chevalierknight
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    Tested it. I didn't see any cracking happening outside of stealth. Only SA from stealth and even sometime it didn't proc. Wouldn't be surprised if it was bugged.

    On xbox ?
  • DeanTheCat
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    I'll find someone to test this when I go online tonight. I'll post here once I have done testing.

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  • KatzMainTank
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    @chevalierknight

    No, on ps4
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  • DeanTheCat
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    Just did some testing. Surprise Attack does indeed apply Major Fracture out of stealth.
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  • Master_Kas
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    DeanTheCat wrote: »
    I'll find someone to test this when I go online tonight. I'll post here once I have done testing.

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  • chevalierknight
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    DeanTheCat wrote: »
    Just did some testing. Surprise Attack does indeed apply Major Fracture out of stealth.

    Thanks was think i was just not getting something what you think this means for xbox pvp dout anyone on xbox knows somthings wrong
  • chevalierknight
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    DeanTheCat wrote: »
    Just did some testing. Surprise Attack does indeed apply Major Fracture out of stealth.

    I know topics old but just read the patch notes they are chaging its tool tip to say it allways debuffs seems it works as intended
  • Kloud
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    Right
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