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Why is fear not blockable?
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jkemmery✭✭✭✭BugCollector wrote: »It's not like I'm afraid, lol.
Yeah, I hate that too, and then the NB's all *** that DK is OP! What a joke!2 -
Sylvyr✭✭✭✭✭It's a mental projection... of a sad clown.
How do you block that?
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dafox187✭✭✭
because then they would nerf itBugCollector wrote: »It's not like I'm afraid, lol.
don't get mad at my spelling, autocorrect doesn't cover fantasy.
Why couldn't the Khajiit go to the party? She had to be Elsweyr.0 -
joshisanonymous✭✭✭✭Because.
You really don't need any more reason than that. I mean, why can we magically send someone running in terror in the first place?2 -
Chuggernaut✭✭✭I'm against most "fear" spells in games. Think about how many people/animals/monsters/demigods/gods you kill in this game, I'm pretty sure after the first or second zone your character would be totally desensitized to the world.My comrades have returned. I erect the spine of gratitude. You are a hero today. - Bura-Natoo8
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MercyKilling✭✭✭✭✭Fear is not a physical thing to be blocked.
One can, however...overcome fear. And I do believe one can break the CC of fear. At least, I've always been able to break out of it when an NPC uses it against me.I am not spending a single penny on the game until changes are made to the game that I want to see.
1) Remove having to be in a guild to sell items to other players at a kiosk.
2) Cosmetic modding for armor and clothing.
3) Difficulty slider.
4) Fully customizable player housing that isn't tied to anything in the game other than having the correct resources and enough gold to build. Don't tie it to PvP, guild membership, or anything at all. Oh, make it instanced so as not to take up world map space, too. Zeni screwed this one up already.
Any /one/ of these things implemented would get me spending again, maybe even subbing.5 -
TheShadowScout✭✭✭✭✭
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I have always seen the players I used it against in cyrodil cc-break it before they shield-rush my sorry nightblade behind into respawn land...MercyKilling wrote: »Fear is not a physical thing to be blocked.
One can, however...overcome fear. And I do believe one can break the CC of fear. At least, I've always been able to break out of it when an NPC uses it against me.
But maybe better nightblades get better results from it, I only know it never did all that much for me... a second respite at best.
IMO it makes sense for it to be not blockable, as mentioned, as it seems to be a psychic attack, and not a physical thing you can stop with a shield or something...1 -
stojekarcub18_ESO✭✭✭✭I've never liked 'fear' being a spell in games, either. In this game, it isn't blockable, and for most, isn't breakable, either. All you can do is grin and bear it.0 -
olemanwinter✭✭✭✭✭BugCollector wrote: »It's not like I'm afraid, lol.
Yeah, I hate that too, and then the NB's all *** that DK is OP! What a joke!
Why is Fossilize not blockable? It's not like I'm a fossil.Edited by olemanwinter on 15 May 2015 23:046 -
jkemmery✭✭✭✭olemanwinter wrote: »BugCollector wrote: »It's not like I'm afraid, lol.
Yeah, I hate that too, and then the NB's all *** that DK is OP! What a joke!
Why is Fossilize not blockable? It's not like I'm a fossil.
You can break fossilize with a bash. You can't break fear with a bash.0 -
Cody✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭it is unblockable that way you cant sit behind block the entire fight and have both high offense and high defense. It forces you to actually strategize and not just hold down one button and win.
Fear is not the only unblockable ability. rune prison, petrify, and other abilities I have not listed, go thru block
not to mention the NB lacks any kind of self heal or damage shield. and our cloak only lasts for 2.5 seconds and can be broken by quite a few things. NBs need something to give them some survivalbility, so they dont just go down in 5 seconds.
call me an OP NB all y'all want, but once yall get all the block breakers nerfed, this game will turn into nothing but a perma block fest. It will be an utter joke and y'all will realize the error of y'alls ways.Edited by Cody on 15 May 2015 23:226 -
AhPook_Is_Here✭✭✭✭✭
✭Fear can't be blocked because sorcs. nerf sorcs now.“Whatever.”
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Kublakan✭✭✭I love it when NB uses fear on me. I take a break, look at my big orc running around like a chicken without head, laughing a bit. It's good for my blood pressure. There's nothing wrong with that skill.5 -
Saft✭✭✭Yeah fear needs a big nerf, way to powerful, and suit gank stamina NB build to well. Its like free killshot with their time to kill and lag.1 -
Samadhi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭ZOS decided to have Fear be one of multiple in-game counters to Block, and if Block could not be broken people would go back to whining about that instead.
Fear can be countered by Immovable, Immovability potions, and CC break.
So Fear counters something and has counters of its own, go figure.Yes, personally use Fear against enemies sometimes.
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Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
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Samadhi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yeah fear needs a big nerf, way to powerful, and suit gank stamina NB build to well. Its like free killshot with their time to kill and lag.
Issues with time to kill and lag are causing problems, so nerf skills.
Heaven forbid that ZOS instead use those time and resources to rebalance time to kill (increase Health pools in Cyrodiil), and lag and glitches (the only real issues with PvP)."If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
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Saft✭✭✭Yeah fear needs a big nerf, way to powerful, and suit gank stamina NB build to well. Its like free killshot with their time to kill and lag.
Issues with time to kill and lag are causing problems, so nerf skills.
Heaven forbid that ZOS instead use those time and resources to rebalance time to kill (increase Health pools in Cyrodiil), and lag and glitches (the only real issues with PvP).
Actually biggest problem will still be stamina NB with their burst DPS and CF sorcs. Just because Frags is ranged and easy to get off especially with the insta proc. Buut atleast one can block them and sometimes reflect, so not as nasty as NB burst is.
When feared, sometimes a NB can kill you, or atleast do major dmg to you before you even see you been feared and break CC animation are done.
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✭✭✭✭✭Potions of Imovability, or Immovable (heavy armor skill)
Problem?
Those last for a few seconds, there are some mobs that try to Fear you constantly. Casting Immovable costs almost half my Stamina and only last 5 seconds, LOL. Potions are expensive and have excruciatingly long cooldowns... no thanks.
There really needs to be some kind of counter to the Fear effect, especially for Magicka builds that aren't specced for frequent roll-dodging.
Edited by Emma_Overload on 16 May 2015 00:48#CAREBEARMASTERRACE0 -
GhostwalkerLD✭✭✭✭Fear isn't blockable because it's a counter to block, is my understanding. So if you're one of these people that constantly blocks while casting instant spells and never letting your guard down... a nightblade comes along and fears you, so now you actually have to do something other than just hold block constantly.
This is what is typically referred to (correctly or otherwise) as "balance."PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!7 -
Varicite✭✭✭✭✭
✭olemanwinter wrote: »BugCollector wrote: »It's not like I'm afraid, lol.
Yeah, I hate that too, and then the NB's all *** that DK is OP! What a joke!
Why is Fossilize not blockable? It's not like I'm a fossil.
You can break fossilize with a bash. You can't break fear with a bash.
Yes, you can.7 -
TheDarkShadow✭✭✭✭✭
✭Chuggernaut wrote: »I'm against most "fear" spells in games. Think about how many people/animals/monsters/demigods/gods you kill in this game, I'm pretty sure after the first or second zone your character would be totally desensitized to the world.
When you fear the instinct part of the brain releases the chemicals, and the logical part of the brain tell you how bad the situation. When you realised it's not that bad, the instinct brain would stop release chemicals and you'd calm down. But some people has some error in their brain and the instinct brain keep releasing too much "flight or fight" chemicals even after the logical brain said it's ok. They can't control it. Some drug can also moderate the logical brain, make it lost the ability to control over the instinct brain. In a "magical" fantasy world like TES, some kind of "dark magic" could also do that. It moderate the logical brain and boost the instinct brain, make you unable to control the fear, no mater how many demons you've killed. (From a person who has that kind of brain error).Edited by TheDarkShadow on 16 May 2015 03:241 -
olemanwinter✭✭✭✭✭You can break fossilize with a bash. You can't break fear with a bash.
Okay, I'm going to admit my ignorance here so maybe I can learn something.
As I understand it....you don't "BREAK" anything with bash. If you can use a skill, then whatever had you has already been broken. Instead you "INTERRUPT" with a bash.
So, given that, the only way to INTERRUPT a skill is either
A ) Before the casting of an instant ability
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B ) During the casting of an ability with a cast time.
Since BOTH Fear AND Fossilize are instant cast abilities, I'm not sure how you could "INTERRUPT" either unless you are simply bashing someone prior to their activating the ability.
In other words, I don't understand how the two abilities would react different to a bash at all.
Please educate me. Seriously.
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Varicite✭✭✭✭✭
✭CC break is done exactly the same way as "bashing" (interrupting), hold right mouse button and then hit left mouse button.
It's called "Break Free" when used this way, but when you are not CC'd, it is a "bash".3 -
olemanwinter✭✭✭✭✭CC break is done exactly the same way as "bashing" (interrupting), hold right mouse button and then hit left mouse button.
It's called "Break Free" when used this way, but when you are not CC'd, it is a "bash".
So, I'm right, yeah?
Both Fear and Fossilize are CC. Both are either "Bashed" before hand or "Break free" after begun, Correct?
The skills are activated, stopped, and broken in exactly the same way.
Sooooo....
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Varicite✭✭✭✭✭
✭olemanwinter wrote: »CC break is done exactly the same way as "bashing" (interrupting), hold right mouse button and then hit left mouse button.
It's called "Break Free" when used this way, but when you are not CC'd, it is a "bash".
So, I'm right, yeah?
Both Fear and Fossilize are CC. Both are either "Bashed" before hand or "Break free" after begun, Correct?
The skills are activated, stopped, and broken in exactly the same way.
Sooooo....
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Yes, you are correct. However, there is a bug currently w/ Break Free that makes it hard to break Fear immediately sometimes.
You can still break it, just not the instant that you're hit w/ it. This does not happen all the time, but enough to be annoying.0
