t.steve1991ub17_ESO wrote: »I need some skimpy armors. I play many different MMORPG's and in all of them I gravitate towards female warriors in scantily clad armors. Please add something like this thx!
Or the quests with the fairly incompetent members of The Daggers in Glenumbra and Rivenspire.
No, this isn't a grim and dark game. It's not cartoonish fantasy either, but it definitely isn't grim and dark.
t.steve1991ub17_ESO wrote: »I need some skimpy armors. I play many different MMORPG's and in all of them I gravitate towards female warriors in scantily clad armors. Please add something like this thx!
Let me guess..B2P brought you here?
winterscrolls229prerb18_ESO wrote: »t.steve1991ub17_ESO wrote: »I need some skimpy armors. I play many different MMORPG's and in all of them I gravitate towards female warriors in scantily clad armors. Please add something like this thx!
Let me guess..B2P brought you here?
So pro subscription only people are pro frumpy people.. Why does that not surprise me for a second. That's such entitled behavior on both subjects. My superior way or die.
Lighten up a little, its fun.
I love hats though! But also capes and stuff. I always say that I would had fit wonderfully into the 14-18th century based on my taste for clothes. Maybe I am weird, but hey I love to be different.
c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »I'm not going to even start on how pathetic this is...
Instead, I'm simply going to point out that the Elder Scrolls series has always been a wonderfully brilliant world of fantasy that introduces you to plenty of well done characters. This includes multiple strong, non-sexualized women that allows both male and female players to have the opportunity to play and meet various respectable, strong, and sometimes feared women. If they went as low as adding bikinis for fan service I would be severely disappointed.
I'm not going to call this way of thinking shallow, but you seriously can't find respect, strength, and something to be feared in a woman because of who she is? You base that on what she wears?
In real life? Yes.
In a game? No. Because I know there is some perverted developer (or regular catering to fan-service) that created them for the sole purpose of giving nerds something to fantasize over. It's hard to respect that.
LadyNerevar wrote: »The ignorance behind this comment is amusing. Nocturnal Dress anyone, how about all that fur, or maybe Ancient Nordic, heck they even have a wench outfit in Skyrim.
Sweet baby Talos, for someone complaining about my ignorance, you clearly didn't read my previous post where I used those very same examples. The fur, ancient nordic, and foresworn armor all fit into Skyrim's art style. Random bikini does not fit into ESO's.
once again, Almexia and Vivec say Hi (Why do people always forget them?)
and then another person posted things pictures that directly prove your wrong, so not sure what you are talking about.
This is my idea of an attractive woman in armor:What I find amusing is that for men sexy or good looking, always comes with boobs, nudity or similar. How about having a sexy hair cut, or a nice hat?
These things don't turn you on?
Must admit though, women tend to also favor the muscle, nude chest "victim" if they hunt for "entertainment".
I don't expect anyone to feel the same way. After all, my female characters include a lady Bosmer with barely any boobs (sort of like me irl) and a feathered lizard, so I'm not exactly your typical player in the market for bikinis.
Oh, I agree that the first quest with the Daggers, despite the amusement factor of the bumbling brothers, dealt with mature themes (the second quest with them really didn't though). Lots of the quests in ESO deal with mature themes. Like that Pact Advocate one in Grahtwood, or the one in Bal Foyen when you have to decide whether you save the docks or the fort, or the one in Rivenspire where you have to decide if a Breton has atoned for his war crimes against orcs... Mature themes != grim and dark though. Mature themes means being presented with situations with shades of grey where you can understand the motivations of those involved, and it's not necessarily clear who's the good guy, who's the bad guy, or what the "right" course of action is. I think in general ESO does very well with this (while still throwing in enough mindless fun). If that's what passes for grim and dark these days, though, then it's a truly grim and dark world that we all live in.newtinmpls wrote: »Commenting on the relative lack of grim and darkness in ESOOr the quests with the fairly incompetent members of The Daggers in Glenumbra and Rivenspire.
No, this isn't a grim and dark game. It's not cartoonish fantasy either, but it definitely isn't grim and dark.
There are folks who experienced that early "Daggers vs. Harpies" quest only on the level of lighthearted and comedic.
I was not one of them.
It dealt with some pretty mature themes - family and "clan" loyalty (both within the Daggers and between the brother and sister), entitlement on the part of rich/nobility (along with a fine lack of disregard for the consequences to nearby "peasants" - so add abuse of power in there). It raised some questions about the sentience of a race that some just see as "monsters"; and it brought up the idea of how much do you do to keep your "family" (however you define family) together.
I think that a lot of the quests in ESO work on many levels and while an immature (or uninterested) player probably won't miss much (or mind missing it), a more thoughtful player could enjoy sorting through some of these ideas.
Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC) Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC) Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP) Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD) J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD) |
Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC) Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP) Manut Redguard Temp (AD) Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP) Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD) |
Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP) Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC) Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP) Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC) Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp |
Um, if that's you trying to show that bikinis have a place in ESO, then I must inform you that you and I have very different ideas of what a bikini is. Those (and anything else that's similar in terms of how revealing it is, while still fitting in with the aesthetic of one of the cultures of Tamriel) all fit in just fine as far as I'm concerned.
Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC) Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC) Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP) Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD) J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD) |
Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC) Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP) Manut Redguard Temp (AD) Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP) Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD) |
Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP) Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC) Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP) Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC) Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp |
Indeed, the modern-looking ESO underwear has always vexed me. I'd like to see it replaced by loincloth style... and then people who want skimpy can just take off their armor, and see where it gets them!Kurimugann wrote: »Bikinis were made around 1946. I am pretty sure that's too modern for ES timeline.
HAH! Yes, -JUST- like that!Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »
Yea let's do it cause it worked so well in WoW and most MMOJRPGs.
Mature themes != grim and dark though. Mature themes means being presented with situations with shades of grey where you can understand the motivations of those involved, and it's not necessarily clear who's the good guy, who's the bad guy, or what the "right" course of action is. I think in general ESO does very well with this (while still throwing in enough mindless fun). If that's what passes for grim and dark these days, though, then it's a truly grim and dark world that we all live in.
I'd like to see it replaced with something like this:TheShadowScout wrote: »Indeed, the modern-looking ESO underwear has always vexed me. I'd like to see it replaced by loincloth style... and then people who want skimpy can just take off their armor, and see where it gets them!Kurimugann wrote: »Bikinis were made around 1946. I am pretty sure that's too modern for ES timeline.
Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC) Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC) Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP) Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD) J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD) |
Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC) Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP) Manut Redguard Temp (AD) Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP) Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD) |
Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP) Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC) Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP) Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC) Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp |
I agree, some of the quests are grim. Having some grim quests still doesn't make it a grim and dark game though, because those quests are definitely not in the majority. If a majority of the quests are grim and dark, then I'd agree that it's a grim and dark game. As it is, it just seems like a "realistic" fantasy world (I know, I shouldn't use the R word) in that there's a mix of grim, fun, and simply ambiguous content.newtinmpls wrote: »Mature themes != grim and dark though. Mature themes means being presented with situations with shades of grey where you can understand the motivations of those involved, and it's not necessarily clear who's the good guy, who's the bad guy, or what the "right" course of action is. I think in general ESO does very well with this (while still throwing in enough mindless fun). If that's what passes for grim and dark these days, though, then it's a truly grim and dark world that we all live in.
I do agree that mature is not the same as grim and dark - but there are a lot of ESO quests that really don't have any "good" choices in terms of endings. I think a lot of those are grim (and it's way late at night so of course I cannot think of any examples).
Ummmm, yeah sorry I'm drawing a blank here too... I agree, it's just too late at night to come up with something good and clever to say.newtinmpls wrote: »And I'm totally wanting to add some clever and mature comment about clothing - but it's late - I'm fried and I got nothin at the moment.
Somebody - say something good here.
Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC) Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC) Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP) Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD) J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD) |
Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC) Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP) Manut Redguard Temp (AD) Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP) Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD) |
Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP) Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC) Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP) Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC) Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp |
winterscrolls229prerb18_ESO wrote: »t.steve1991ub17_ESO wrote: »I need some skimpy armors. I play many different MMORPG's and in all of them I gravitate towards female warriors in scantily clad armors. Please add something like this thx!
Let me guess..B2P brought you here?
So pro subscription only people are pro frumpy people.. Why does that not surprise me for a second. That's such entitled behavior on both subjects. My superior way or die.
Lighten up a little, its fun.
If I want skimpy armor, I'll go play TERA. Which is a great game.Ohh, right in the shinny part
t.steve1991ub17_ESO wrote: »Why don't you have us all dress like nuns? (sarcasm)
They "lost" the part of targeting their games solely at 14-year old boys.