Radiant Destruction...

hamon

jkemmery wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

jkemmery wrote: »

Why is it that people playing Templar characters are always complaining? I've seen Templars kicking major butt in the game. Some of the most impressive displays of rapid and thorough decimation of enemy NPCs I've so far seen have been Templars. In one dungeon, a VR1 DK couldn't hold a candle to a lvl 42 Templar in the group, yet they are always whining on the boards. If you look at the leaderboards, Templars are highly represented. C'mon MAN!

I was being serious. I see Templars kicking butt all over the game, and in the forums, all I hear is whining. I've actually began to roll alt Templars because the class must be powerful. They get ultimate like 3X faster than a DK.

i can see your new to the forums.. so i,ll let that lie.. but perhaps you should read more before you post trash.
if you think templars are strong right now just roll one and enjoy being so uber you get melted in seconds or if you try to build for survival you can't even remotely hurt anything.

jnjdun_ESO

jkemmery wrote: »

Why is it that people playing Templar characters are always complaining? I've seen Templars kicking major butt in the game. Some of the most impressive displays of rapid and thorough decimation of enemy NPCs I've so far seen have been Templars. In one dungeon, a VR1 DK couldn't hold a candle to a lvl 42 Templar in the group, yet they are always whining on the boards. If you look at the leaderboards, Templars are highly represented. C'mon MAN!

Templars are okay in PvE. If you're going to roll a templar thinking they are OP I would advise that you don’t PvP with it unless you are going to zerg surf.

Templars for small scale PvP action are in a bad place right now. I would wager the majority of templar complaints you hear are from people that primarily PvP.

*you should remember there are two very distinct play styles in this game and a character that kicks butt in PvP may not be the greatest in PvE and vice versa. Take sorcs for example, people complained they were nerfed PvE wise in 1.6, but in PvP they are very powerful right now, in my opinion.

Forestd16b14_ESO

jnjdun_ESO wrote: »

jkemmery wrote: »

Why is it that people playing Templar characters are always complaining? I've seen Templars kicking major butt in the game. Some of the most impressive displays of rapid and thorough decimation of enemy NPCs I've so far seen have been Templars. In one dungeon, a VR1 DK couldn't hold a candle to a lvl 42 Templar in the group, yet they are always whining on the boards. If you look at the leaderboards, Templars are highly represented. C'mon MAN!

Templars are okay in PvE. If you're going to roll a templar thinking they are OP I would advise that you don’t PvP with it unless you are going to zerg surf.

Templars for small scale PvP action are in a bad place right now. I would wager the majority of templar complaints you hear are from people that primarily PvP.

*you should remember there are two very distinct play styles in this game and a character that kicks butt in PvP may not be the greatest in PvE and vice versa. Take sorcs for example, people complained they were nerfed PvE wise in 1.6, but in PvP they are very powerful right now, in my opinion.

Nah you're right but sorc are pretty good at pve I seen some good ones but in pvp they melt anything. Still kinda sad how some players think templars are useless now just cause one skill again 1 SKILL got fix to follow the same rule as a ultimate. But funny as uncle sheo and uncle sangiun going on a night of parties to read XD.

Mumyo

AHAHAH i see templars go extinct

Naivefanboi

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

Stam builds are supposed to be superior. Get with the 1.6 meta and respec already.

Yea stam builds are good now but no one is using a stam build there only using wrecking blow.

lol nope.
2h/bow . wreckblow not even slotted

Mumyo wrote: »

AHAHAH i see templars go extinct [/quote

also big ol nope, been 2h temp/heal offspec since closed beta will stay that way till servers close. which will be....?

Psychobunni

Anazasi wrote: »

Templar •Dawn’s Wrath •Radiant Destruction: This ability now cancels if the enemy moves out of your line of sight.

I think the community deserves this to work on Bow- Lethal Arrow as well. It is not fair to the any player or class to add this type of mechanic without applying it to all casted abilities. You need to fix this for ALL ABILIETES that use a cast time with LOS break.

Welcome to the wild and wonderful world of ESO, where QQ from the smallest part of the game(PVP) constantly and consistently nerfs the largest(PVE).

I rolled a stamina based templar(no not 2h) to replace my now defunct magicka sorc main, except I watched the forum and didnt bother to even get used to Radiant Destruction because I knew this was coming. It is the least stressful way to play, follow the trail of "omg nerf it" and don't bother with that skill too much.

Mumyo

jkemmery wrote: »

Why is it that people playing Templar characters are always complaining? I've seen Templars kicking major butt in the game. Some of the most impressive displays of rapid and thorough decimation of enemy NPCs I've so far seen have been Templars. In one dungeon, a VR1 DK couldn't hold a candle to a lvl 42 Templar in the group, yet they are always whining on the boards. If you look at the leaderboards, Templars are highly represented. C'mon MAN!

That low lvl dungeon part convinced me, u must know alot of pvp
And taht leaderboard representing good classes xD, wow!
U joke!

Vaerth

squshy7 wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

Templar •Dawn’s Wrath •Radiant Destruction: This ability now cancels if the enemy moves out of your line of sight.

I think the community deserves this to work on Bow- Lethal Arrow as well. It is not fair to the any player or class to add this type of mechanic without applying it to all casted abilities. You need to fix this for ALL ABILIETES that use a cast time with LOS break.

It already does?

If I'm charging lethal arrow, and you move out of LOS before the ability fires, the ability won't fire at all.

Yup, he is right

Lady_Rosabella

timidobserver wrote: »

Stam builds are supposed to be superior. Get with the 1.6 meta and respec already.

I have a VR14 Stamina Build Dragonknight, I also have a stamina build Nightblade. I chose to create a Templar because I wanted a magicka build toon. If I wanted all my characters to be stamina build I would not have made my Temp to begin with. Why should anyone be forced to create all stamina build characters post 1.6 just to be "superior"?

Orchish

Finally.

eventide03b14a_ESO

Anazasi wrote: »

I have been hit several times by a casted lethal arrow while behind a wall.

That's just lag then. No channeled abilities should continue to work if you break LOS. Sorry that your "i win" button now has limitations.

reften

seanvwolf wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

Templar •Dawn’s Wrath •Radiant Destruction: This ability now cancels if the enemy moves out of your line of sight.

I think the community deserves this to work on Bow- Lethal Arrow as well. It is not fair to the any player or class to add this type of mechanic without applying it to all casted abilities. You need to fix this for ALL ABILIETES that use a cast time with LOS break.

Radiant Destruction isn't a casted skill, it's a channeled skill. Lethal Arrow isn't a channeled skill. And you can't use Lethal Arrow if your enemy is out of your LOS. Stop it. Just, stop it.

thread should have ended here.

jkemmery

Mumyo wrote: »

jkemmery wrote: »

Why is it that people playing Templar characters are always complaining? I've seen Templars kicking major butt in the game. Some of the most impressive displays of rapid and thorough decimation of enemy NPCs I've so far seen have been Templars. In one dungeon, a VR1 DK couldn't hold a candle to a lvl 42 Templar in the group, yet they are always whining on the boards. If you look at the leaderboards, Templars are highly represented. C'mon MAN!

That low lvl dungeon part convinced me, u must know alot of pvp
And taht leaderboard representing good classes xD, wow!
U joke!

Admittedly, I do not play much PVP because my only VR toon, VR1 DK can't last more than a couple minutes in melee, at best. All the hits are coming from VR6 players and above. Unless you're high in the Vet ranks, it just isn't fun to PVP, unless you enjoy dying and riding back to the front a lot.

Forestd16b14_ESO

Naivefanboi wrote: »

lol nope.
2h/bow . wreckblow not even slotted

Then you sir are original.

TheFamousMockingbird

This is a needed change and fair with respect to other spells that have to obey line of sight.

Now please fix other Templar class skill bugs.

TequilaFire

One more nerf to a class that has already been destroyed.

edit to take out what I really wanted to say...

onlinegamer1

So many mis-informed people in this thread.

Casted Ability != Channeled Ability.

Lethal Arrow: Casted
Radiant Destruction: Channeled

Apples to Oranges.

Now, compare Radiant to Resto/Lightning Staff Heavy attack, and its Apples to Apples. Oh, look, they break on LOS.

Now compare Lethal to Crystal Frag: oh look, if casting COMPLETES while you have LOS, the missile TRACKS beyond LOS. But if the casting does NOT complete before LOS breaks, then casting is CANCELED.

Please learn how the game actually works before posting these kinds of threads.

FireCowCommando

Another reason for magicka templar is subpar!

Long live the stamina templar
Long live the support templar

Never play the Magicka DPS templar, It doesnt exsist!

Forestd16b14_ESO

onlinegamer1 wrote: »

So many mis-informed people in this thread.

Casted Ability != Channeled Ability.

Lethal Arrow: Casted
Radiant Destruction: Channeled

Apples to Oranges.

Now, compare Radiant to Resto/Lightning Staff Heavy attack, and its Apples to Apples. Oh, look, they break on LOS.

Now compare Lethal to Crystal Frag: oh look, if casting COMPLETES while you have LOS, the missile TRACKS beyond LOS. But if the casting does NOT complete before LOS breaks, then casting is CANCELED.

Please learn how the game actually works before posting these kinds of threads.

There still gonna complain cause they can't kill every one who's inside keeps any more.

Raash

*sniffle* is it just me that hear Chopin - Funeral March surrounding this templar tragedy?
How sad as it may be: it was not a nerf, it was a bug fix =´(

Mumyo

Matter btw is that templar is only known for radiant destruction

TequilaFire wrote: »

One more nerf to a class that has already been destroyed.

edit to take out what I really wanted to say...

templar is only known for radiant destruction and easiest target.
Soon we will be known for easiest target only.
I never like radiant destruction though, gay skill!
Templar should be redesigned!

Observant

Can all of you Templars honestly say this is an unfair change?

That would be just as pathetic as those saying the Valkyn Skoria fix was a nerf.

You can't even compare it to Lethal Arrow because that would be a Channeled Spell versus a Projectile (a.k.a Apples to Oranges)

pkb16_ESO2

The change is absolutly ok and nessesary.
The problem is just that we Templar dont have anything good apart ot Jesus Beam.
Plz ZOS Fix our broken Skills, make Jabs good (usable) again, and buff BS.
The good players know that we are at moment by fare the weakest class in PvP.

Mumyo

pkb16_ESO2 wrote: »

The change is absolutly ok and nessesary.
The problem is just that we Templar dont have anything good apart ot Jesus Beam.
Plz ZOS Fix our broken Skills, make Jabs good (usable) again, and buff BS.
The good players know that we are at moment by fare the weakest class in PvP.

Since we are not comparable in ressources i totally agree, stronger skills would make that fair again. Give us stronger skills since all our passives are bound to abilities that are useless in comparison

Tabbycat

Honestly I think any type of projectile (spell or weapon) should no longer do damage once someone moves out of line of sight.

When was the last time you were able to throw a baseball through a brick wall? Over perhaps, but then you wouldn't be able to aim it because you can't see where it's going.

Bfish22090

Soul assault is the same way, it's pretty much a soul assault class ability.
Why should the Jesus beam be any different?

Ezareth

Magicka templars are already pathically weak DPS. I think this nerf without any accompanying buffs is like kicking a man while he's down. Jesus beam was already not that powerful.... Now it is going to be even less useful against skilled players.

Aldruin

Anazasi wrote: »

Templar •Dawn’s Wrath •Radiant Destruction: This ability now cancels if the enemy moves out of your line of sight.

I think the community deserves this to work on Bow- Lethal Arrow as well. It is not fair to the any player or class to add this type of mechanic without applying it to all casted abilities. You need to fix this for ALL ABILIETES that use a cast time with LOS break.

All of the abilities use the mechanism, radiant destruction was bugged. Stop whining.

eventide03b14a_ESO

How long did you guys think it would be before they fixed it? You had your fun, but come on you knew it wasn't supposed to work through walls. Stop crying, you know you're still going to use it as your primary spell. Seriously.

ZOS_AlanG

Hi everyone, this discussion has been very heated and baity. While it is fine to be critical of the game and other's opinions, criticism needs to be kept civil and constructive.