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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Damage shields should act like temporary hit points

  • Hypertionb14_ESO
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    they do act like extra hp..

    extra HP that protects you from outside your armor as a magical shield.

    considering its outside your armor as a big glowy effect, can you really expect it to benefit from your armor...


    yay for using visual effects as a excuse for mechanics by arguing realism!
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  • Tankqull
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    Sypher wrote: »
    Damage shields are okay in my opinion but can we just get these bugs fixed?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPSbnSbqwqc

    They prevent certain CC and negate certain abilities (FOR EXAMPLE: No magicka is returned from elemental drain if you are damaging a shield)


    Also, I always hear people say Shields have ZERO spell resist. I did some testing recently and apparently your spell resist applies to your shield anyways? Is this new or .. ?


    and when you are at it ZOS fix the 100% chance of destructive reach to proc the elementary effect. it should be way below that of destructive clench wich has a roughly 40% chance.
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  • Kas
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    Sypher wrote: »
    Damage shields are okay in my opinion but can we just get these bugs fixed?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPSbnSbqwqc

    They prevent certain CC and negate certain abilities (FOR EXAMPLE: No magicka is returned from elemental drain if you are damaging a shield)


    Also, I always hear people say Shields have ZERO spell resist. I did some testing recently and apparently your spell resist applies to your shield anyways? Is this new or .. ?

    wow, thanks for that. and here i was, thinking yesterday's sorc was popping unstoppable pots like crazy...
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  • cozmon3c_ESO
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    hmm unstoppable pots, that may be my next potions i buy, just for certain petrify spammers.
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  • Ezareth
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    Sypher wrote: »
    Damage shields are okay in my opinion but can we just get these bugs fixed?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPSbnSbqwqc

    They prevent certain CC and negate certain abilities (FOR EXAMPLE: No magicka is returned from elemental drain if you are damaging a shield)


    Also, I always hear people say Shields have ZERO spell resist. I did some testing recently and apparently your spell resist applies to your shield anyways? Is this new or .. ?

    @Sypher
    We've recently done testing with shields and they don't prevent most CC. The defensive posture stun is obviously a bug and that explains the lack of stuns when reflecting many abilities. It's the only CC I know of that they prevent.

    I'm almost certain the destructive reach knockback works as it was recently used on me while I had shields active (unless Harness Magicka is bugged which I don't use).

    Elemental drain has always worked like that, you have to do damage to health. There are many set bonuses like Desert Rose that do not proc through shields as well so the issue exists on both sides. Ultimate generation used to not work through shields for the same reason. I think that at least is intended.

    I tested shields in PTS 1.6 and they most certainly do not offer spell resist. Tooltip damage was being done to my shields as that is how I was able to determine the tooltip value of my shields was accurately being displayed when I tested the Bastion Champion ability.
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  • Sypher
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    Sypher wrote: »
    Damage shields are okay in my opinion but can we just get these bugs fixed?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPSbnSbqwqc

    They prevent certain CC and negate certain abilities (FOR EXAMPLE: No magicka is returned from elemental drain if you are damaging a shield)


    Also, I always hear people say Shields have ZERO spell resist. I did some testing recently and apparently your spell resist applies to your shield anyways? Is this new or .. ?

    @Sypher
    We've recently done testing with shields and they don't prevent most CC. The defensive posture stun is obviously a bug and that explains the lack of stuns when reflecting many abilities. It's the only CC I know of that they prevent.

    I'm almost certain the destructive reach knockback works as it was recently used on me while I had shields active (unless Harness Magicka is bugged which I don't use).

    Elemental drain has always worked like that, you have to do damage to health. There are many set bonuses like Desert Rose that do not proc through shields as well so the issue exists on both sides. Ultimate generation used to not work through shields for the same reason. I think that at least is intended.

    I tested shields in PTS 1.6 and they most certainly do not offer spell resist. Tooltip damage was being done to my shields as that is how I was able to determine the tooltip value of my shields was accurately being displayed when I tested the Bastion Champion ability.

    I'll definitely do some testing as soon as I'm home just to confirm. Will post video result for you guys soon.
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