It's not possible to perma block in 1.6 - the stamina cost is way too high. But nice try, though.trimsic_ESO wrote: »Shield spam online is also bleed immunity online. People with a stamina build based on bleeding effects and with a set that procs off dots will have their build nullified by the bleed immunity of the damage shields.
yeah and every magic range dmg dealer has its entire dmg nearly nullified by perma blocking stamuser...
http://i.imgur.com/ifoh7t9.png
reducing the dmg dealt below values beeing covered by mutagen/rapid regen
xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Teargrants wrote: »Why is there no way for us to be effective/stay alive without spamming shields as a non stam build?
There is, its called Heavy Armor, and you can actually run it and be tanky with Magicka
Problem is....Heavy Armor is woeful in comparison to Shields..which trump everything in the game.
xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Teargrants wrote: »Why is there no way for us to be effective/stay alive without spamming shields as a non stam build?
There is, its called Heavy Armor, and you can actually run it and be tanky with Magicka
Problem is....Heavy Armor is woeful in comparison to Shields..which trump everything in the game.
So by your logic light armor should not be vaible at all bc to stay alive you need heavy armor magica or medium stamina builds. NICE!
xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Teargrants wrote: »Why is there no way for us to be effective/stay alive without spamming shields as a non stam build?
There is, its called Heavy Armor, and you can actually run it and be tanky with Magicka
Problem is....Heavy Armor is woeful in comparison to Shields..which trump everything in the game.
So by your logic light armor should not be vaible at all bc to stay alive you need heavy armor magica or medium stamina builds. NICE!
You think Medium Armor builds stay alive upfront in combat?
Ive seen stam builds survive WAY longer vs 5-10 people then a mag build could ever do. Dodge vs Shieldspam...its the same thing just different name.
Sallington wrote: »Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"
Ive seen stam builds survive WAY longer vs 5-10 people then a mag build could ever do. Dodge vs Shieldspam...its the same thing just different name.
xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Ive seen stam builds survive WAY longer vs 5-10 people then a mag build could ever do. Dodge vs Shieldspam...its the same thing just different name.
You mean the dodge roll that multiple abilities the Sorc and Templar have that go through it? hell just having 1 or 2 Templars means you're not going to survive very long...Not to mention you can't damage people at the same time you're dodge rolling.
Fail Comparison is Fail
DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Ive seen stam builds survive WAY longer vs 5-10 people then a mag build could ever do. Dodge vs Shieldspam...its the same thing just different name.
You mean the dodge roll that multiple abilities the Sorc and Templar have that go through it? hell just having 1 or 2 Templars means you're not going to survive very long...Not to mention you can't damage people at the same time you're dodge rolling.
Fail Comparison is Fail
So I'm starting to wonder if your issue with Sorc abilities stems from a dire hatred of the "Streak" morph. Lucky for you, most Sorcs don't use that morph these days, so once you lock them with a Wrecking Blow and they drain enough magicka and stamina trying to get away, you'll tear through them easily.
xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Ive seen stam builds survive WAY longer vs 5-10 people then a mag build could ever do. Dodge vs Shieldspam...its the same thing just different name.
You mean the dodge roll that multiple abilities the Sorc and Templar have that go through it? hell just having 1 or 2 Templars means you're not going to survive very long...Not to mention you can't damage people at the same time you're dodge rolling.
Fail Comparison is Fail
So I'm starting to wonder if your issue with Sorc abilities stems from a dire hatred of the "Streak" morph. Lucky for you, most Sorcs don't use that morph these days, so once you lock them with a Wrecking Blow and they drain enough magicka and stamina trying to get away, you'll tear through them easily.
Really? Once I lock in on wrecking blow they're screwed? Well gee..Why didn't I think of that.
Tell you what..You make a video of it, so we can all watch.
trimsic_ESO wrote: »It's not possible to perma block in 1.6 - the stamina cost is way too high. But nice try, though.trimsic_ESO wrote: »Shield spam online is also bleed immunity online. People with a stamina build based on bleeding effects and with a set that procs off dots will have their build nullified by the bleed immunity of the damage shields.
yeah and every magic range dmg dealer has its entire dmg nearly nullified by perma blocking stamuser...
http://i.imgur.com/ifoh7t9.png
reducing the dmg dealt below values beeing covered by mutagen/rapid regen
xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Teargrants wrote: »Why is there no way for us to be effective/stay alive without spamming shields as a non stam build?
There is, its called Heavy Armor, and you can actually run it and be tanky with Magicka
Problem is....Heavy Armor is woeful in comparison to Shields..which trump everything in the game.
So by your logic light armor should not be vaible at all bc to stay alive you need heavy armor magica or medium stamina builds. NICE!
You think Medium Armor builds stay alive upfront in combat?
DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Ive seen stam builds survive WAY longer vs 5-10 people then a mag build could ever do. Dodge vs Shieldspam...its the same thing just different name.
You mean the dodge roll that multiple abilities the Sorc and Templar have that go through it? hell just having 1 or 2 Templars means you're not going to survive very long...Not to mention you can't damage people at the same time you're dodge rolling.
Fail Comparison is Fail
So I'm starting to wonder if your issue with Sorc abilities stems from a dire hatred of the "Streak" morph. Lucky for you, most Sorcs don't use that morph these days, so once you lock them with a Wrecking Blow and they drain enough magicka and stamina trying to get away, you'll tear through them easily.
Really? Once I lock in on wrecking blow they're screwed? Well gee..Why didn't I think of that.
Tell you what..You make a video of it, so we can all watch.
Sure, I'll try to record some encounters with stam builds for you. Luckily for me, I do use streak, and I'm a good player, so I'm not the easy-kill sorc that all the stam builds are looking for, but the fights are always interesting.
But seriously, if you're not able to take out an average Sorc, then idk what to tell you.
DisgracefulMind wrote: »trimsic_ESO wrote: »It's not possible to perma block in 1.6 - the stamina cost is way too high. But nice try, though.trimsic_ESO wrote: »Shield spam online is also bleed immunity online. People with a stamina build based on bleeding effects and with a set that procs off dots will have their build nullified by the bleed immunity of the damage shields.
yeah and every magic range dmg dealer has its entire dmg nearly nullified by perma blocking stamuser...
http://i.imgur.com/ifoh7t9.png
reducing the dmg dealt below values beeing covered by mutagen/rapid regen
You're wrong. There are still several perma-blockers.
xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Teargrants wrote: »Why is there no way for us to be effective/stay alive without spamming shields as a non stam build?
There is, its called Heavy Armor, and you can actually run it and be tanky with Magicka
Problem is....Heavy Armor is woeful in comparison to Shields..which trump everything in the game.
So by your logic light armor should not be vaible at all bc to stay alive you need heavy armor magica or medium stamina builds. NICE!
You think Medium Armor builds stay alive upfront in combat?
They can in 1v1 or 2v1. Something i have yet to see a light armor user accomplish without shields. So yeah what should light do to stay alive apart from shields?
xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Ive seen stam builds survive WAY longer vs 5-10 people then a mag build could ever do. Dodge vs Shieldspam...its the same thing just different name.
You mean the dodge roll that multiple abilities the Sorc and Templar have that go through it? hell just having 1 or 2 Templars means you're not going to survive very long...Not to mention you can't damage people at the same time you're dodge rolling.
Fail Comparison is Fail
So I'm starting to wonder if your issue with Sorc abilities stems from a dire hatred of the "Streak" morph. Lucky for you, most Sorcs don't use that morph these days, so once you lock them with a Wrecking Blow and they drain enough magicka and stamina trying to get away, you'll tear through them easily.
Really? Once I lock in on wrecking blow they're screwed? Well gee..Why didn't I think of that.
Tell you what..You make a video of it, so we can all watch.
Sure, I'll try to record some encounters with stam builds for you. Luckily for me, I do use streak, and I'm a good player, so I'm not the easy-kill sorc that all the stam builds are looking for, but the fights are always interesting.
But seriously, if you're not able to take out an average Sorc, then idk what to tell you.
Yea, its cause you're a good player that you're not an easy to kill sorc.
*grin*DisgracefulMind wrote: »trimsic_ESO wrote: »It's not possible to perma block in 1.6 - the stamina cost is way too high. But nice try, though.trimsic_ESO wrote: »Shield spam online is also bleed immunity online. People with a stamina build based on bleeding effects and with a set that procs off dots will have their build nullified by the bleed immunity of the damage shields.
yeah and every magic range dmg dealer has its entire dmg nearly nullified by perma blocking stamuser...
http://i.imgur.com/ifoh7t9.png
reducing the dmg dealt below values beeing covered by mutagen/rapid regen
You're wrong. There are still several perma-blockers.
Perma block is very hard to achieve right now...Hell Crushing Shock alone will eat Block users alive.
Why is there no effective counter to shield abilities? Most of my recent PvP experiences have been with people who spams shields non-stop to take little to no actually damage, yet still somehow putting out enough damage to kill people.
DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Ive seen stam builds survive WAY longer vs 5-10 people then a mag build could ever do. Dodge vs Shieldspam...its the same thing just different name.
You mean the dodge roll that multiple abilities the Sorc and Templar have that go through it? hell just having 1 or 2 Templars means you're not going to survive very long...Not to mention you can't damage people at the same time you're dodge rolling.
Fail Comparison is Fail
So I'm starting to wonder if your issue with Sorc abilities stems from a dire hatred of the "Streak" morph. Lucky for you, most Sorcs don't use that morph these days, so once you lock them with a Wrecking Blow and they drain enough magicka and stamina trying to get away, you'll tear through them easily.
Really? Once I lock in on wrecking blow they're screwed? Well gee..Why didn't I think of that.
Tell you what..You make a video of it, so we can all watch.
Sure, I'll try to record some encounters with stam builds for you. Luckily for me, I do use streak, and I'm a good player, so I'm not the easy-kill sorc that all the stam builds are looking for, but the fights are always interesting.
But seriously, if you're not able to take out an average Sorc, then idk what to tell you.
Yea, its cause you're a good player that you're not an easy to kill sorc.
*grin*DisgracefulMind wrote: »trimsic_ESO wrote: »It's not possible to perma block in 1.6 - the stamina cost is way too high. But nice try, though.trimsic_ESO wrote: »Shield spam online is also bleed immunity online. People with a stamina build based on bleeding effects and with a set that procs off dots will have their build nullified by the bleed immunity of the damage shields.
yeah and every magic range dmg dealer has its entire dmg nearly nullified by perma blocking stamuser...
http://i.imgur.com/ifoh7t9.png
reducing the dmg dealt below values beeing covered by mutagen/rapid regen
You're wrong. There are still several perma-blockers.
Perma block is very hard to achieve right now...Hell Crushing Shock alone will eat Block users alive.
I'm hard to kill on my DK too
And there are people achieving it. It took 5 sorcs in my group I was playing with the other day to take out a permablocking Templar. And let's not get started on a certain perma-blocking AD DK (:
xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Ive seen stam builds survive WAY longer vs 5-10 people then a mag build could ever do. Dodge vs Shieldspam...its the same thing just different name.
You mean the dodge roll that multiple abilities the Sorc and Templar have that go through it? hell just having 1 or 2 Templars means you're not going to survive very long...Not to mention you can't damage people at the same time you're dodge rolling.
Fail Comparison is Fail
So I'm starting to wonder if your issue with Sorc abilities stems from a dire hatred of the "Streak" morph. Lucky for you, most Sorcs don't use that morph these days, so once you lock them with a Wrecking Blow and they drain enough magicka and stamina trying to get away, you'll tear through them easily.
Really? Once I lock in on wrecking blow they're screwed? Well gee..Why didn't I think of that.
Tell you what..You make a video of it, so we can all watch.
Sure, I'll try to record some encounters with stam builds for you. Luckily for me, I do use streak, and I'm a good player, so I'm not the easy-kill sorc that all the stam builds are looking for, but the fights are always interesting.
But seriously, if you're not able to take out an average Sorc, then idk what to tell you.
Yea, its cause you're a good player that you're not an easy to kill sorc.
*grin*DisgracefulMind wrote: »trimsic_ESO wrote: »It's not possible to perma block in 1.6 - the stamina cost is way too high. But nice try, though.trimsic_ESO wrote: »Shield spam online is also bleed immunity online. People with a stamina build based on bleeding effects and with a set that procs off dots will have their build nullified by the bleed immunity of the damage shields.
yeah and every magic range dmg dealer has its entire dmg nearly nullified by perma blocking stamuser...
http://i.imgur.com/ifoh7t9.png
reducing the dmg dealt below values beeing covered by mutagen/rapid regen
You're wrong. There are still several perma-blockers.
Perma block is very hard to achieve right now...Hell Crushing Shock alone will eat Block users alive.
I'm hard to kill on my DK too
And there are people achieving it. It took 5 sorcs in my group I was playing with the other day to take out a permablocking Templar. And let's not get started on a certain perma-blocking AD DK (:
you sure he was blocking, or just spamming Blazing Shield with 50k HP.
DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Ive seen stam builds survive WAY longer vs 5-10 people then a mag build could ever do. Dodge vs Shieldspam...its the same thing just different name.
You mean the dodge roll that multiple abilities the Sorc and Templar have that go through it? hell just having 1 or 2 Templars means you're not going to survive very long...Not to mention you can't damage people at the same time you're dodge rolling.
Fail Comparison is Fail
So I'm starting to wonder if your issue with Sorc abilities stems from a dire hatred of the "Streak" morph. Lucky for you, most Sorcs don't use that morph these days, so once you lock them with a Wrecking Blow and they drain enough magicka and stamina trying to get away, you'll tear through them easily.
Really? Once I lock in on wrecking blow they're screwed? Well gee..Why didn't I think of that.
Tell you what..You make a video of it, so we can all watch.
Sure, I'll try to record some encounters with stam builds for you. Luckily for me, I do use streak, and I'm a good player, so I'm not the easy-kill sorc that all the stam builds are looking for, but the fights are always interesting.
But seriously, if you're not able to take out an average Sorc, then idk what to tell you.
Yea, its cause you're a good player that you're not an easy to kill sorc.
*grin*DisgracefulMind wrote: »trimsic_ESO wrote: »It's not possible to perma block in 1.6 - the stamina cost is way too high. But nice try, though.trimsic_ESO wrote: »Shield spam online is also bleed immunity online. People with a stamina build based on bleeding effects and with a set that procs off dots will have their build nullified by the bleed immunity of the damage shields.
yeah and every magic range dmg dealer has its entire dmg nearly nullified by perma blocking stamuser...
http://i.imgur.com/ifoh7t9.png
reducing the dmg dealt below values beeing covered by mutagen/rapid regen
You're wrong. There are still several perma-blockers.
Perma block is very hard to achieve right now...Hell Crushing Shock alone will eat Block users alive.
I'm hard to kill on my DK too
And there are people achieving it. It took 5 sorcs in my group I was playing with the other day to take out a permablocking Templar. And let's not get started on a certain perma-blocking AD DK (:
you sure he was blocking, or just spamming Blazing Shield with 50k HP.
Totally blocking, the entire time lol. Had around 25k HP as well.
xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Ive seen stam builds survive WAY longer vs 5-10 people then a mag build could ever do. Dodge vs Shieldspam...its the same thing just different name.
You mean the dodge roll that multiple abilities the Sorc and Templar have that go through it? hell just having 1 or 2 Templars means you're not going to survive very long...Not to mention you can't damage people at the same time you're dodge rolling.
Fail Comparison is Fail
So I'm starting to wonder if your issue with Sorc abilities stems from a dire hatred of the "Streak" morph. Lucky for you, most Sorcs don't use that morph these days, so once you lock them with a Wrecking Blow and they drain enough magicka and stamina trying to get away, you'll tear through them easily.
Really? Once I lock in on wrecking blow they're screwed? Well gee..Why didn't I think of that.
Tell you what..You make a video of it, so we can all watch.
Sure, I'll try to record some encounters with stam builds for you. Luckily for me, I do use streak, and I'm a good player, so I'm not the easy-kill sorc that all the stam builds are looking for, but the fights are always interesting.
But seriously, if you're not able to take out an average Sorc, then idk what to tell you.
Yea, its cause you're a good player that you're not an easy to kill sorc.
*grin*DisgracefulMind wrote: »trimsic_ESO wrote: »It's not possible to perma block in 1.6 - the stamina cost is way too high. But nice try, though.trimsic_ESO wrote: »Shield spam online is also bleed immunity online. People with a stamina build based on bleeding effects and with a set that procs off dots will have their build nullified by the bleed immunity of the damage shields.
yeah and every magic range dmg dealer has its entire dmg nearly nullified by perma blocking stamuser...
http://i.imgur.com/ifoh7t9.png
reducing the dmg dealt below values beeing covered by mutagen/rapid regen
You're wrong. There are still several perma-blockers.
Perma block is very hard to achieve right now...Hell Crushing Shock alone will eat Block users alive.
I'm hard to kill on my DK too
And there are people achieving it. It took 5 sorcs in my group I was playing with the other day to take out a permablocking Templar. And let's not get started on a certain perma-blocking AD DK (:
you sure he was blocking, or just spamming Blazing Shield with 50k HP.
Totally blocking, the entire time lol. Had around 25k HP as well.
5 Sorcs could all do crushing shock twice and instantly drain any Templars stamina to nothing.
I mean....there is virtually zero way for him to perma block 5 sorcs.
Hell even 2 sorcs would be impossible to Perma Block against.
DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Ive seen stam builds survive WAY longer vs 5-10 people then a mag build could ever do. Dodge vs Shieldspam...its the same thing just different name.
You mean the dodge roll that multiple abilities the Sorc and Templar have that go through it? hell just having 1 or 2 Templars means you're not going to survive very long...Not to mention you can't damage people at the same time you're dodge rolling.
Fail Comparison is Fail
So I'm starting to wonder if your issue with Sorc abilities stems from a dire hatred of the "Streak" morph. Lucky for you, most Sorcs don't use that morph these days, so once you lock them with a Wrecking Blow and they drain enough magicka and stamina trying to get away, you'll tear through them easily.
Really? Once I lock in on wrecking blow they're screwed? Well gee..Why didn't I think of that.
Tell you what..You make a video of it, so we can all watch.
Sure, I'll try to record some encounters with stam builds for you. Luckily for me, I do use streak, and I'm a good player, so I'm not the easy-kill sorc that all the stam builds are looking for, but the fights are always interesting.
But seriously, if you're not able to take out an average Sorc, then idk what to tell you.
Yea, its cause you're a good player that you're not an easy to kill sorc.
*grin*DisgracefulMind wrote: »trimsic_ESO wrote: »It's not possible to perma block in 1.6 - the stamina cost is way too high. But nice try, though.trimsic_ESO wrote: »Shield spam online is also bleed immunity online. People with a stamina build based on bleeding effects and with a set that procs off dots will have their build nullified by the bleed immunity of the damage shields.
yeah and every magic range dmg dealer has its entire dmg nearly nullified by perma blocking stamuser...
http://i.imgur.com/ifoh7t9.png
reducing the dmg dealt below values beeing covered by mutagen/rapid regen
You're wrong. There are still several perma-blockers.
Perma block is very hard to achieve right now...Hell Crushing Shock alone will eat Block users alive.
I'm hard to kill on my DK too
And there are people achieving it. It took 5 sorcs in my group I was playing with the other day to take out a permablocking Templar. And let's not get started on a certain perma-blocking AD DK (:
you sure he was blocking, or just spamming Blazing Shield with 50k HP.
Totally blocking, the entire time lol. Had around 25k HP as well.
5 Sorcs could all do crushing shock twice and instantly drain any Templars stamina to nothing.
I mean....there is virtually zero way for him to perma block 5 sorcs.
Hell even 2 sorcs would be impossible to Perma Block against.
I was kiting him for quite awhile, my friends eventually showed up, I could do absolutely no damage to him. It literally took all of us to take him out.
You'll see him, I'm sure of it. (:
Sheilds should absolutely be critable. They should also have a 10-15 second cool down or something.