So, how about that Radiant Destruction then...

kijima

It's like snipe, but worse...

Sharee

Pumped-up soul assault that you don't need ultimate for

Subtomik

i mean its not like it heal debuffs you...or stuns you....and its channeled.

doesnt seem too bad to me /shrug

Perphection

#rekt

Sharee

Subtomik wrote: »

i mean its not like it heal debuffs you...or stuns you....and its channeled.

doesnt seem too bad to me /shrug

Its currently bugged. Its literally blowing people up.

Keep siege. You are defending. Step to the edge of wall to get LOS, cast an instant ability, then immediately dodge roll back out of LOS. If a templar tags you with the beam in the split second you are in LOS, you will die. If you are lucky, you will only lose 3/4 of your HP.

Damage in general is wacky. For example, 22000 hit from a destro staff heavy attack.

kijima

Come on guys, own up. It's OP as hell and you know it.

Subtomik

/shrug im just blazing shield through it no problem

Perphection

I just don't see how it's OP, seems fine to me.

-Templar

Minnesinger

It is great. On the side note, I was hit 10k and 8k before I died. The guy was vr1. Think it is time for some Templar dps.

cote-bmsb16_ESO

Special beam cannon!!

eliisra

Clearly a l2p issues. Why not use dodge, interrupt, heavy armor and a damage absorbing shield? I have no problems at all with Radiant Destruction

(always apply bow-tard rhetoric = much fun)

But really, it seems a bit over-tuned on PTS right now. Some of it is due to people running around in trial armor, no impen and lacking passives from CS points. People blow up in seconds from loads of things. But Radiant Destruction also feels little wacky, maybe the max magicka scaling is off-ish or they typed in the wrong numbers somewhere. ZoS have a tendency up mess of scaling dmg, I remember back when my Soul Tether did 3k dmg on single players.

Subtomik

eliisra wrote: »

Clearly a l2p issues. Why not use dodge, interrupt, heavy armor and a damage absorbing shield? I have no problems at all with Radiant Destruction

(always apply bow-tard rhetoric = much fun)

But really, it seems a bit over-tuned on PTS right now. Some of it is due to people running around in trial armor, no impen and lacking passives from CS points. People blow up in seconds from loads of things. But Radiant Destruction also feels little wacky, maybe the max magicka scaling is off-ish or they typed in the wrong numbers somewhere. ZoS have a tendency up mess of scaling dmg, I remember back when my Soul Tether did 3k dmg on single players.

I noticed that the people who are "glass cannon" spec are absolutely done if you get them below 50% they just melt. most people have been countering fairly well.

i will say this though i have never had so many kb's in a night, weird having a execute.

AriBoh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trtX8epdt1k

Imdrefan

I was at sej last night beaming people from the top with immovable and blazing shield.

Subtomik wrote: »

eliisra wrote: »

Clearly a l2p issues. Why not use dodge, interrupt, heavy armor and a damage absorbing shield? I have no problems at all with Radiant Destruction

(always apply bow-tard rhetoric = much fun)

But really, it seems a bit over-tuned on PTS right now. Some of it is due to people running around in trial armor, no impen and lacking passives from CS points. People blow up in seconds from loads of things. But Radiant Destruction also feels little wacky, maybe the max magicka scaling is off-ish or they typed in the wrong numbers somewhere. ZoS have a tendency up mess of scaling dmg, I remember back when my Soul Tether did 3k dmg on single players.

I noticed that the people who are "glass cannon" spec are absolutely done if you get them below 50% they just melt. most people have been countering fairly well.

i will say this though i have never had so many kb's in a night, weird having a execute.

I'm really enjoying having an execute too, and the whole dawns wrath line is finally where it should of been.

I was at sej last night beaming people from the top with immovable and blazing shield. Lots of fun.

cozmon3c_ESO

I like it, it means a full bar of mana if someone uses it on me rendering me unkillabl

Sallington

Subtomik wrote: »

eliisra wrote: »

Clearly a l2p issues. Why not use dodge, interrupt, heavy armor and a damage absorbing shield? I have no problems at all with Radiant Destruction

(always apply bow-tard rhetoric = much fun)

But really, it seems a bit over-tuned on PTS right now. Some of it is due to people running around in trial armor, no impen and lacking passives from CS points. People blow up in seconds from loads of things. But Radiant Destruction also feels little wacky, maybe the max magicka scaling is off-ish or they typed in the wrong numbers somewhere. ZoS have a tendency up mess of scaling dmg, I remember back when my Soul Tether did 3k dmg on single players.

I noticed that the people who are "glass cannon" spec are absolutely done if you get them below 50% they just melt. most people have been countering fairly well.

i will say this though i have never had so many kb's in a night, weird having a execute.

I'm so excited for this to go live.

Manoekin

It's easy to counter. Only powerful when the target is in execute range. It's interruptible. The damage is high, but that because it's an execute. People don't take into account it's a 3 sec channel when they see their damage they think it hit them all at once. Also, it has an unstated cast time. When you press the ability and when the cast goes off there is at least a .5 maybe .75 second delay.

Current bug with it as someone mentioned, if you have tab target on someone you can actually shoot the beam through any physical object, and if they move out of LOS it follows anyway.

Erock25

All I read are templars trying to hold on to their clearly OP ability.

Subtomik

Erock25 wrote: »

All I read are templars trying to hold on to their clearly OP ability.

Care to make a counter argument?

TheBull

It takes 2-3 cloaks to break it...

Rylana

Every thread I have seen on this issue is templars defending the skill vs everyone else calling it OP.

As a templar player, I shall break from convention and agree with the other players, this ability is extremely OP, and broken. LOS issue, the interrupt doesnt always work, and the damage is scaled far too high for a basic and rather cheap by comparison ability.

Soul assault is a similar skill, but is an ultimate. The fact it even comes close to the power of SA in terms of raw damage over channel is lunacy, and no counter argument will ever nullify that fact.

By all means however, guys, keep defending your toy because it will cause exactly two things to happen if it stays this way going live.

1. People will quit pvp, and of course this is not a good thing. People are tired of abuse of broken/OP stuff.
2. People will all roll the exact same templar spec and diversity out the window again.

How many times do we have to repeat the past?

Soris

Charge, interrupt, stun, block. All these work to counter it. It's "op" only when you out of range for these actions.

It's like impale with channel. So what is the moaning about?

Rylana

Soris_ESO wrote: »

Charge, interrupt, stun, block. All these work to counter it. It's "op" only when you out of range for these actions.

It's like impale with channel. So what is the moaning about?

Except its not. It does about six times the damage at base of impale. Its like having soul assault up 100 percent of the time and just being able to chain cast it.

What it should do, is kill your entire magicka pool, literally 100 percent useage each time you fire it.

Soris

Hmm. According to template characters..

Assasin's Blade I : 450 base damage, costs 1600 magicka
Radiant Destruction I : 1950 base damage over 3 seconds (ticks like 650), costs 3990 magicka.
Both deals more damage on low health targets.
Soul Strike I : 4010 damage over 2.8 seconds, cost 100 ultimate

You are vulnerable to any kind of action while channeling it
It's not THAT op.

Subtomik

It's nothing like having soul assault up all the time it does absolutely no damage to people above 50% health lol and any shield just completely mitigates it.

I think a lot of what is throwing off people is they aren't used to having Templars burst them down with an execute.

Soris

Not to mention stupid 1 sec delay when you try to cast it

It does however deal high damage when you stack empower and spell crit buffs from various skills along with backlash
But it has nothing to do with base skill

Isbilen

ITT: Templars defending their OP "I win"-button.

Soris

Yeah magicka templars finally can do some damage atm, deal with it^^

Erock25

Soris_ESO wrote: »

Yeah magicka templars finally can do some damage atm, deal with it on PTS for 2 weeks before it is rightfully nerfed.

Fixed that for you.

jopeymonster

This thread is LOL.

New burst ability for a class that no one is used to having burst and every cries OP instead of looking at it objectively.

High magicka cost, channeled, two qualifications for it to do max damage - it's fine.

I'm used to Templar resto envy, but Templar dps envy just sounds like an oxymoron.

Soris

Well im seeing people trying to dodge roll or run out of range when I cast it. Probably same people come here and ask for nerf.
You just need to adapt and do some proper counter.