The Gold Road Chapter – which includes the Scribing system – and Update 42 is now available to test on the PTS! You can read the latest patch notes here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/656454/
Maintenance for the week of April 29:
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – April 29

New Performance (FPS) Issues Hotfix

  • MonkeyAssassin24
    MonkeyAssassin24
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    A night and day difference! Awesome thank you, even though it took a frustratingly long time. ZOS this may be as good a time as any to offer a game time compensation. It would be VERY positive pr move.
    On second thought, let's not go to the forums. 'Tis a silly place.
  • Omnevolus
    Omnevolus
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    The hotfix appears to have worked.

    Now we must furrow our brows in consternation, then demand explanations, instead of just being grateful for being provided with what we had previously demanded.

    (Sings): "I see your truuuue colors shiiiining through!"

    ZOS: Can you guys put together a hotfix for the forum community?

    But in all seriousness: Good work, ZOS! Thank you!
    Edited by Omnevolus on 8 July 2014 22:59
  • Cogo
    Cogo
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    Omnevolus wrote: »

    ZOS: Can you guys put together a hotfix for the forum community?

    Hah! not a bad idea! Wonder if that "fix" would include getting rid of me too.
    Oghur Hatemachine, Guild leader of The Nephilim - EU Megaserver
    Orc Weapon Specialist and Warchief of the Ebonheart Pact - Trueflame Cyrodiil War Campaign
    Guildsite: The Nephilim

    "I don't agree with what you are saying, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"
    -Voltaire

    "My build? Improvise, overcome and adapt!"
  • Strakand
    Strakand
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    A night and day difference! Awesome thank you, even though it took a frustratingly long time. ZOS this may be as good a time as any to offer a game time compensation. It would be VERY positive pr move.

    Not to mention all my friends who are letting their subs run out... an extra two weeks might convince them to resub. Most of the VR12 players in my guild have lost substantial hope.
  • Davlor
    Davlor
    Soul Shriven
    Game client is not starting for me after the hotfix. I see Bethesda.net_Launcher.exe in the task manager with a slowly increasing amount of memory used. It has been working for 15+ minutes. Anyone experiencing something similar?
  • Davlor
    Davlor
    Soul Shriven
    Davlor wrote: »
    Game client is not starting for me after the hotfix. I see Bethesda.net_Launcher.exe in the task manager with a slowly increasing amount of memory used. It has been working for 15+ minutes. Anyone experiencing something similar?

    Trying to manually run ESO.exe also appears to have no effect. Client just doesn't seem to start.
  • elwhy
    elwhy
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    I'm patching now, and stoked everyone is saying it helps, but why hasn't it been explained what was wrong? Unless it was something ridiculous, such as a human error where for no reason at all the game was using resources because of some little line of code, you should tell us what it is. I realize you don't have to, but after ruining the game for such a long time for so many people, telling us is the courteous thing to do :D

    Or giving us free time, because for me it sucked in PvE but I know for some people it's been completely unplayable and therefore a waste of money for them. But in all honesty I doubt that'll happen.
  • smee_z
    smee_z
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    Definitely a HOTFIX this one. You nailed it. Completely forgot to post back after time flew being back in Cyrodiil once more.
    PC NA

    Games are meant to be played.

    Back in Auriel's Bow 1.0, I have thought that the best way to handicap a faction with the HUGE pop advantage is to temporarily disable their grouping functionality and their ability to fight in 3rd person point of view! Let's see if these do not even up the odds.
  • rendolpheb16_ESO
    rendolpheb16_ESO
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    Tested this morning and that unexpected hotfix just repair the FPS issue and we can finally enjoy Cyrodill as before.

    Good job ZOS and keep working hard on this game, because it has a lot of potential to go bigger and become a niche for a lot of gamers.
    For Templar PvP video check my youtube channel
    https://www.youtube.com/RendolpheGamer
  • frwinters_ESO
    frwinters_ESO
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    Good to hear this, will see how it all goes when i come home tonight. but please...PLEASE when you patch again lets not revert back to this mess? Please!
  • groh
    groh
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    Nice to see you' r fixing the issues...Sorry to not say " thx you ZEN "... My sub is expiring and i think i gave you enough money for now to support the development of this Beta longer, regarding the product you delivred

    I hope you ll work hard and nice the next months to give what players and that game/licence deserve.
  • Cogo
    Cogo
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    Strakand wrote: »
    A night and day difference! Awesome thank you, even though it took a frustratingly long time. ZOS this may be as good a time as any to offer a game time compensation. It would be VERY positive pr move.

    Not to mention all my friends who are letting their subs run out... an extra two weeks might convince them to resub. Most of the VR12 players in my guild have lost substantial hope.

    They will be VERY happy to have alot of Vet 12 players who cant do weapon swap in combat, using several abilities at the same time, switching em out while you doing a dungeon. Run ahead and pull lots mobs to wipe the group.

    And complain to Zenimax that dungeons vet 12 and raid and trials and all the HARD stuff....isnt workding......your friends will be SOOO happy playing with those kinds of players.....
    Oghur Hatemachine, Guild leader of The Nephilim - EU Megaserver
    Orc Weapon Specialist and Warchief of the Ebonheart Pact - Trueflame Cyrodiil War Campaign
    Guildsite: The Nephilim

    "I don't agree with what you are saying, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"
    -Voltaire

    "My build? Improvise, overcome and adapt!"
  • Ghenra
    Ghenra
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    After arround 1h of test, I can say ZOS have fixed at 80% the fps bug. Now I have arround 5-8 fps less in big battles than pre-1.2 but is a good patch anyway.
  • TRIP233
    TRIP233
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    How about for once telling us what caused it and why it only appeared in 1.2.3 and why since it was so localised to that patch it took so long for the cause to be identified?

    I don't really care for what caused it. I only care if it's finally fixed and stays fixed.
  • Strakand
    Strakand
    ✭✭✭
    Cogo wrote: »
    Strakand wrote: »
    A night and day difference! Awesome thank you, even though it took a frustratingly long time. ZOS this may be as good a time as any to offer a game time compensation. It would be VERY positive pr move.

    Not to mention all my friends who are letting their subs run out... an extra two weeks might convince them to resub. Most of the VR12 players in my guild have lost substantial hope.

    They will be VERY happy to have alot of Vet 12 players who cant do weapon swap in combat, using several abilities at the same time, switching em out while you doing a dungeon. Run ahead and pull lots mobs to wipe the group.

    And complain to Zenimax that dungeons vet 12 and raid and trials and all the HARD stuff....isnt workding......your friends will be SOOO happy playing with those kinds of players.....

    Uh... wtf? That was an incredibly off topic rant, and had absolutely nothing to do with my post. Please do not bring my comments into your random rage posts.
  • Saboer
    Saboer
    Soul Shriven
    Great update! Thank you Zeni! :) I just played for hours straight in Cyrodiil without any Fps drops. PVP is so much fun again. :)
  • Xupacabra
    Xupacabra
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    I can play again, ty keep the good work.
    Chupacabra with rage @ EU server AD faction Thornblade home
  • WebBull
    WebBull
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    Leovolao wrote: »
    ImBatman wrote: »
    This seems to have 100% FIXED my fps issues in Cyrodiil. Thank you Zenimax, you have completely restored my faith in this game by having a fix in such a timely manner.

    lol "timely manner"

    Yes, People expect too much too fast these days and rage too hard if they don't get it right away. Nothing but a bunch of spoiled children.


    Two weeks in the MMO world is not timely so I wouldn't exactly call people spoiled children. Especially when you are paying for a product that wasnt working.

    Edited by WebBull on 8 July 2014 17:00
  • IcyDeadPeople
    IcyDeadPeople
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    Had a chance to test PVP in Wabbajack after installing the hotfix update.

    The performance now seems to be a bit better than it was prior to patch 1.2.3, but I still experience frame rate drops in very large battles (more than 30v30)

    - Prior to live server, on PTS I was getting 30-35fps in cyrodiil (low to medium settings) at 1600x900, with no frame rate drops, 40-50 fps in delves.

    - On live prior to patch 1.2.3, frame rate was ~25-35fps in cyrodiil (lowest settings except medium texture and medium subsampling) at 1600x900, with occasional drops down to 7-10 fps near large keep battles on high pop campaigns. Seemed to average about 40-50 fps in PVE delves, on medium textures and high subsampling in PVE.

    - Following patch 1.2.3 my frame rate was similar except it would frequently drop in even smaller pvp battles down to 1 or 2fps, even at 1280x720, lowest possible settings, and with audio turned off. Also experienced frequent drops down to 2-4 fps in the Elhinir area of Craglorn. Occasionally when the frame rate was as high as 20fps, the game felt very unresponsive compared to previous user experience at 20fps.

    - After this latest hotfix, I'm able to play with audio sound effects turned on, AA enabled at 1280x720, medium textures, medium subsampling, and my frame rate ranges from 22-40fps in cyrodiil. Only near extremely large battles with many enemy players did my frame rate drop down around 8-12fps. There seemed to be some improvement to server latency, as the game felt a bit more responsive at 20fps for example, compared to 20fps prior to this hotfix.

    In case it's helpful, here is my dxdiag:

    System Information
    Time of this report: 7/8/2014, 09:36:26
    Machine name: ENVY15-1100T
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    System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
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    Memory: 16384MB RAM
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    Windows Dir: C:\Windows
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    DX Setup Parameters: Not found
    User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
    System DPI Setting: 120 DPI (125 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
    DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 64bit Unicode

    DxDiag Notes
    Display Tab 1: No problems found.
    Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
    Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
    Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
    Input Tab: No problems found.

    DirectX Debug Levels
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    DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
    DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
    DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
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    DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
    DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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    DXVA-HD: Not Supported
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    D3D Status: Enabled
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    Default Voice Playback: Yes
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    Date and Size: 3/23/2010 14:53:06, 505344 bytes
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    HW Memory: 0
    Voice Management: No
    EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
    I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
    Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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    Default Sound Playback: No
    Default Voice Playback: No
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    Voice Management: No
    EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
    I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
    Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

    Description: AMD HDMI Output (AMD High Definition Audio Device)
    Default Sound Playback: No
    Default Voice Playback: No
    Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_1002&DEV_AA01&SUBSYS_00AA0100&REV_1002
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    Default Voice Capture: Yes
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    Default Voice Capture: No
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    FF Driver: n/a

    Device Name: Keyboard
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    Controller ID: n/a
    Vendor/Product ID: n/a
    FF Driver: n/a

    Device Name: Razer Nostromo
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    Device Name: USB Receiver
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    Device Name: USB Receiver
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    USB Devices
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    | Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub20
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    | Driver: usbd.sys, 11/26/2013 18:41:03, 7808 bytes
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    PS/2 Devices
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    | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
    | Service: mouhid
    | Driver: mouhid.sys, 7/13/2009 17:00:20, 31232 bytes
    | Driver: mouclass.sys, 7/13/2009 18:48:27, 49216 bytes
    |
    + Logitech HID-compliant Unifying Mouse
    | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC52B
    | Matching Device ID: hid\vid_046d&class_0004
    | Upper Filters: LMouFilt
    | Lower Filters: LHidFilt
    | Service: mouhid
    | Driver: LHidFilt.Sys, 9/1/2011 23:30:24, 66840 bytes
    | Driver: LMouFilt.Sys, 9/1/2011 23:30:36, 60696 bytes
    | Driver: mouhid.sys, 7/13/2009 17:00:20, 31232 bytes
    | Driver: mouclass.sys, 7/13/2009 18:48:27, 49216 bytes
    | Driver: LkmdfCoInst.dll, 9/1/2011 23:30:36, 1845528 bytes
    | Driver: LMouFiltCoInst.dll, 9/1/2011 23:30:46, 55064 bytes
    |
    + Razer Nostromo
    | Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x0111
    | Matching Device ID: hid\vid_1532&pid_0111&mi_01
    | Upper Filters: RzSynapse
    | Service: mouhid
    | OEMData: 03 00 88 11 18 00 00 00
    | Driver: RzSynapse.sys, 7/14/2011 17:18:52, 157184 bytes
    | Driver: mouhid.sys, 7/13/2009 17:00:20, 31232 bytes
    | Driver: mouclass.sys, 7/13/2009 18:48:27, 49216 bytes
    | Driver: WdfCoInstaller01009.dll, 8/7/2009 10:49:36, 1721576 bytes
    |
    + Terminal Server Mouse Driver
    | Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
    | Upper Filters: mouclass
    | Service: TermDD
    | Driver: termdd.sys, 11/20/2010 06:33:57, 63360 bytes
    | Driver: sermouse.sys, 7/13/2009 17:00:20, 26624 bytes
    | Driver: mouclass.sys, 7/13/2009 18:48:27, 49216 bytes

    Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
    Drive: C:
    Free Space: 55.7 GB
    Total Space: 289.8 GB
    File System: NTFS
    Model: RAID-0

    Drive: D:
    Free Space: 2.5 GB
    Total Space: 15.2 GB
    File System: NTFS
    Model: RAID-0

    Drive: E:
    Free Space: 0.1 GB
    Total Space: 0.1 GB
    File System: FAT32
    Model: RAID-0

    Drive: F:
    Free Space: 20.8 GB
    Total Space: 953.9 GB
    File System: NTFS
    Model: WD My Book 3.0 1123 USB Device

    Drive: J:
    Model: DTSOFT Virtual CdRom Device
    Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 02:19:21, 147456 bytes

    System Devices
    Name: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 2448
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2448&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_A5\3&11583659&0&F0
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 06:33:48, 184704 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) processor Integrated Memory Controller Test Registers - 2C9C
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2C9C&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_04\3&4F11E61&0&1C
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) processor Miscellaneous Registers - D158
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D158&SUBSYS_0022003C&REV_11\3&11583659&0&43
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) processor Integrated Memory Controller Channel 1 Thermal Control Registers - 2CAB
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2CAB&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_04\3&4F11E61&0&2B
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) processor DMI - D132
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D132&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_11\3&11583659&0&00
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Atheros AR8131 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_1969&DEV_1063&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_C0\4&3B419192&0&00E1
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) processor Integrated Memory Controller Target Address Decoder - 2C99
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2C99&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_04\3&4F11E61&0&19
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) processor Integrated Memory Controller Channel 1 Rank Registers - 2CAA
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2CAA&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_04\3&4F11E61&0&2A
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) processor System Control and Status Registers - D157
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D157&SUBSYS_0022003C&REV_11\3&11583659&0&42
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) Centrino(R) Advanced-N 6200 AGN
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_4239&SUBSYS_13118086&REV_35\4&256AFF9&0&00E0
    Driver: n/a

    Name: NEC Electronics USB 3.0 Host Controller
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_1033&DEV_0194&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_03\4&1FC1E307&0&0028
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\nusb3xhc.sys, 1.00.0017.0000 (English), 10/26/2009 23:19:48, 176640 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) processor Integrated Memory Controller - 2C98
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2C98&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_04\3&4F11E61&0&18
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) processor Integrated Memory Controller Channel 1 Address Registers - 2CA9
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2CA9&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_04\3&4F11E61&0&29
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) processor Semaphore and Scratchpad Registers - D156
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D156&SUBSYS_0022003C&REV_11\3&11583659&0&41
    Driver: n/a

    Name: High Definition Audio Controller
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B56&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_05\3&11583659&0&D8
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 03:43:43, 122368 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) QPI Physical 0 - 2C91
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2C91&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_04\3&4F11E61&0&11
    Driver: n/a

    Name: High Definition Audio Controller
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_AA58&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_00\4&1332C8BB&0&0118
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 03:43:43, 122368 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) processor Integrated Memory Controller Channel 1 Control Registers - 2CA8
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2CA8&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_04\3&4F11E61&0&28
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) processor System Management Registers - D155
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D155&SUBSYS_0022003C&REV_11\3&11583659&0&40
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 2 - 3B44
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B44&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_05\3&11583659&0&E1
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 06:33:48, 184704 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) QPI Link - 2C90
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2C90&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_04\3&4F11E61&0&10
    Driver: n/a

    Name: AMD Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68A1&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_00\4&1332C8BB&0&0018
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atikmdag.sys, 8.01.0001.1390 (English), 4/17/2014 19:36:46, 15376384 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ati2erec.dll, 1.00.0000.0024 (English), 4/17/2014 18:04:24, 43520 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiumd64.dll, 9.14.0010.1029 (English), 4/17/2014 19:42:28, 8010968 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiumd6a.dll, 8.14.0010.0448 (English), 4/17/2014 19:42:30, 7520200 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atitmm64.dll, 6.14.0011.0025 (English), 4/17/2014 18:28:30, 190976 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiicdxx.dat, 1/16/2014 01:34:52, 723841 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\amdpcom64.dll, 8.14.0010.0023 (English), 4/17/2014 19:43:06, 78432 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atimpc64.dll, 8.14.0010.0023 (English), 4/17/2014 19:43:06, 78432 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiadlxx.dll, 6.14.0010.1300 (English), 4/17/2014 18:09:20, 1177600 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiumd6a.cap, 4/17/2014 18:28:48, 3437632 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atimuixx.dll, 6.14.0010.1002 (English), 4/17/2014 18:30:02, 31232 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiapfxx.exe, 6.14.0010.1001 (English), 4/17/2014 18:46:34, 368128 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ativvsva.dat, 6/26/2012 08:42:40, 157144 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ativvsvl.dat, 6/26/2012 08:42:40, 204952 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ativvaxy_cik.dat, 3/31/2014 15:06:22, 234804 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ativvaxy_cik_nd.dat, 3/31/2014 15:04:42, 233008 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ativce02.dat, 4/10/2014 10:58:46, 82128 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\amdmmcl6.dll, 1.05.0000.0000 (English), 4/17/2014 18:33:06, 48128 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiesrxx.exe, 6.14.0011.1169 (English), 4/17/2014 18:29:24, 239616 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atieclxx.exe, 6.14.0011.1169 (English), 4/17/2014 18:29:54, 586240 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atidemgy.dll, 4.05.5220.36907 (English), 4/17/2014 18:30:14, 442368 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atio6axx.dll, 6.14.0010.12874 (English), 4/17/2014 19:12:54, 27907584 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\aticalrt64.dll, 6.14.0010.1848 (English), 4/17/2014 18:46:26, 62464 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\aticalcl64.dll, 6.14.0010.1848 (English), 4/17/2014 18:46:18, 55808 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\aticaldd64.dll, 6.14.0010.1848 (English), 4/17/2014 18:46:04, 15716352 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atibtmon.exe, 2.00.0000.0000 (English), 5/11/2009 18:35:00, 118784 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiapfxx.blb, 4/17/2014 18:46:56, 580816 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\amdmantle64.dll, 9.01.0010.0013 (English), 4/17/2014 19:12:48, 5442048 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\mantle64.dll, 9.01.0010.0013 (English), 4/17/2014 19:13:30, 127488 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\mantleaxl64.dll, 9.01.0010.0013 (English), 4/17/2014 18:45:56, 91136 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ativce03.dat, 2/6/2014 08:45:58, 134192 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ativvaxy_vi.dat, 1/16/2014 09:59:20, 275124 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ativvaxy_vi_nd.dat, 1/16/2014 10:00:46, 273712 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atidxx64.dll, 8.17.0010.0545 (English), 4/17/2014 19:42:48, 10335208 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atiumdag.dll, 9.14.0010.1029 (English), 4/17/2014 19:42:36, 6799688 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atiumdva.dll, 8.14.0010.0448 (English), 4/17/2014 19:42:40, 6796592 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\amdpcom32.dll, 8.14.0010.0023 (English), 4/17/2014 19:43:04, 71704 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atimpc32.dll, 8.14.0010.0023 (English), 4/17/2014 19:43:04, 71704 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atiadlxy.dll, 6.14.0010.1300 (English), 4/17/2014 18:09:00, 848896 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atiumdva.cap, 4/17/2014 18:17:36, 3471376 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ativvsva.dat, 6/26/2012 08:42:40, 157144 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ativvsvl.dat, 6/26/2012 08:42:40, 204952 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\amdmmcl.dll, 1.05.0000.0000 (English), 4/17/2014 18:33:02, 37888 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atioglxx.dll, 6.14.0010.12874 (English), 4/17/2014 18:51:44, 23409152 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atidxx32.dll, 8.17.0010.0545 (English), 4/17/2014 19:42:46, 8866928 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\aticalrt.dll, 6.14.0010.1848 (English), 4/17/2014 18:46:24, 52224 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\aticalcl.dll, 6.14.0010.1848 (English), 4/17/2014 18:46:18, 49152 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\aticaldd.dll, 6.14.0010.1848 (English), 4/17/2014 18:42:52, 14302208 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atiapfxx.blb, 4/17/2014 18:46:56, 580816 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\amdmantle32.dll, 9.01.0010.0013 (English), 4/17/2014 18:58:32, 4358656 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\mantle32.dll, 9.01.0010.0013 (English), 4/17/2014 19:13:10, 113664 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\mantleaxl32.dll, 9.01.0010.0013 (English), 4/17/2014 18:45:46, 85504 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ATIODCLI.exe, 1.00.0000.0001 (English), 6/22/2009 08:34:36, 51200 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ATIODE.exe, 1.00.0000.0001 (English), 8/27/2010 11:33:08, 332800 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atikmpag.sys, 8.14.0001.6374 (English), 4/17/2014 18:07:06, 638976 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atipblag.dat, 9/12/2011 15:06:16, 3917 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiu9p64.dll, 8.14.0001.6374 (English), 4/17/2014 19:42:58, 117584 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiuxp64.dll, 8.14.0001.6374 (English), 4/17/2014 19:43:00, 143304 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atig6txx.dll, 8.14.0001.6374 (English), 4/17/2014 18:07:36, 146944 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiglpxx.dll, 8.14.0001.6374 (English), 4/17/2014 18:07:46, 69632 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\aticfx64.dll, 8.17.0010.1280 (English), 4/17/2014 19:42:54, 1343272 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\aticfx32.dll, 8.17.0010.1280 (English), 4/17/2014 19:42:52, 1117184 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\OpenCL.dll, 2.00.0001.0000 (English), 4/17/2014 19:17:28, 65024 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\amdocl64.dll, 10.00.1445.0005 (English), 4/17/2014 19:22:32, 28685824 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\amdocl_as64.exe, 4/17/2014 19:22:58, 1187342 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\amdocl_ld64.exe, 4/17/2014 19:22:58, 1061902 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\OpenVideo64.dll, 10.00.1445.0005 (English), 4/17/2014 19:22:54, 98816 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\OVDecode64.dll, 10.00.1445.0005 (English), 4/17/2014 19:22:42, 86528 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\clinfo.exe, 4/17/2014 19:23:08, 231424 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\OpenCL.dll, 2.00.0001.0000 (English), 4/17/2014 19:17:24, 58880 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\amdocl.dll, 10.00.1445.0005 (English), 4/17/2014 19:19:54, 24107520 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\amdocl_as32.exe, 4/17/2014 19:22:56, 995342 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\amdocl_ld32.exe, 4/17/2014 19:22:56, 798734 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\OpenVideo.dll, 10.00.1445.0005 (English), 4/17/2014 19:22:48, 83456 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\OVDecode.dll, 10.00.1445.0005 (English), 4/17/2014 19:22:38, 73216 bytes
    Driver: C:\Program Files\AMD\amdkmpfd\amdkmpfd.ssz, 8.14.0001.6024 (English), 12/11/2013 16:32:24, 36608 bytes
    Driver: C:\Program Files\AMD\amdkmpfd\amdkmpfd.isz, 11/21/2013 11:42:02, 1988 bytes
    Driver: C:\Program Files\AMD\amdkmpfd\amdkmpfd.csz, 12/18/2013 00:56:40, 8206 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atig6pxx.dll, 8.14.0001.6374 (English), 4/17/2014 18:07:54, 75264 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atipblag.dat, 9/12/2011 15:06:16, 3917 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atiu9pag.dll, 8.14.0001.6374 (English), 4/17/2014 19:42:56, 99520 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atiuxpag.dll, 8.14.0001.6374 (English), 4/17/2014 19:42:58, 126336 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atigktxx.dll, 8.14.0001.6374 (English), 4/17/2014 18:07:20, 133632 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atiglpxx.dll, 8.14.0001.6374 (English), 4/17/2014 18:07:46, 69632 bytes
    Driver: C:\Program Files\Common Files\ATI Technologies\Multimedia\AMDhwDecoder_32.dll, 1.00.0000.0001 (English), 4/17/2014 18:52:00, 196608 bytes
    Driver: C:\Program Files\Common Files\ATI Technologies\Multimedia\AMDhwDecoder_64.dll, 1.00.0000.0001 (English), 4/17/2014 18:52:18, 232960 bytes
    Driver: C:\Program Files\Common Files\ATI Technologies\Multimedia\AMDMFTDecoder_32.dll, 1.00.24881.2151 (English), 4/17/2014 18:51:36, 98304 bytes
    Driver: C:\Program Files\Common Files\ATI Technologies\Multimedia\AMDMFTDecoder_64.dll, 1.00.24881.2151 (English), 4/17/2014 18:51:44, 121344 bytes
    Driver: C:\Program Files\Common Files\ATI Technologies\Multimedia\AMDMFTVideoDecoder_32.dll, 4/17/2014 19:42:26, 109832 bytes
    Driver: C:\Program Files\Common Files\ATI Technologies\Multimedia\AMDMFTVideoDecoder_64.dll, 4/17/2014 19:42:26, 132528 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\coinst_14.100.dll, 1.00.0005.0009 (English), 4/17/2014 18:21:30, 806912 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) processor Integrated Memory Controller Channel 0 Thermal Control Registers - 2CA3
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2CA3&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_04\3&4F11E61&0&23
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) QuickPath Interconnect - D151
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D151&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_11\3&11583659&0&81
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 - 3B42
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B42&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_05\3&11583659&0&E0
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 06:33:48, 184704 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) QuickPath Architecture System Address Decoder - 2C81
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2C81&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_04\3&4F11E61&0&01
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) processor Integrated Memory Controller Channel 0 Rank Registers - 2CA2
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2CA2&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_04\3&4F11E61&0&22
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) QuickPath Interconnect - D150
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D150&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_11\3&11583659&0&80
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller - 3B34
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B34&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_05\3&11583659&0&E8
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 6.01.7601.18328 (English), 11/26/2013 18:41:11, 53248 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7601.18328 (English), 11/26/2013 18:41:11, 325120 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7601.18328 (English), 11/26/2013 18:41:37, 343040 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) QuickPath Architecture Generic Non-Core Registers - 2C52
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2C52&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_04\3&4F11E61&0&00
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) processor Integrated Memory Controller Channel 0 Address Registers - 2CA1
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2CA1&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_04\3&4F11E61&0&21
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) processor PCI Express Root Port 3 - D13A
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D13A&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_11\3&11583659&0&28
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 06:33:48, 184704 bytes

    Name: Synaptics SMBus Driver
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B30&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_05\3&11583659&0&FB
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) Mobile Express Chipset SATA RAID Controller
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_282A&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_05\3&11583659&0&FA
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\iaStor.sys, 10.08.0000.1003 (English), 10/17/2011 14:55:32, 559384 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) processor Integrated Memory Controller Channel 0 Control Registers - 2CA0
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2CA0&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_04\3&4F11E61&0&20
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) processor PCI Express Root Port 1 - D138
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D138&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_11\3&11583659&0&18
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 06:33:48, 184704 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) PM55 Express Chipset LPC Interface Controller - 3B03
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B03&SUBSYS_1522103C&REV_05\3&11583659&0&F8
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\msisadrv.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 18:48:27, 15424 bytes

    DirectShow Filters

    DirectShow Filters:
    WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,WMADMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
    WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMADMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
    WMSpeech Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMSPDMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
    MP3 Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,mp3dmod.dll,6.01.7600.16385
    Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mp4sdecd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
    WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvsdecd.dll,6.01.7601.17514
    WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,wmvdecod.dll,6.01.7601.18221
    Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mp43decd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
    Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mpg4decd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
    DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
    Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,12.00.7601.17514
    Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,12.00.7601.17514
    AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    SBE2MediaTypeProfile,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
    Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder,0x005fffff,2,4,msmpeg2vdec.dll,12.00.9200.16426
    AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
    DvPlayTee,0x00200000,1,2,DXDVSupport.dll,5.00.0003.0000
    StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
    Microsoft TV Captions Decoder,0x00200001,1,0,MSTVCapn.dll,6.01.7601.17715
    MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    CBVA DMO wrapper filter,0x00200000,1,1,cbva.dll,6.01.7601.17514
    MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.7601.17514
    ATI MPEG File Writer,0x00200000,1,0,atimpenc64.dll,13.30.0000.40417
    AMD Video Decoder,0x00200000,1,2,atimpenc64.dll,13.30.0000.40417
    MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
    Closed Captions Analysis Filter,0x00200000,2,5,cca.dll,6.06.7601.17514
    SBE2FileScan,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
    Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
    Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
    Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    Microsoft MPEG-2 Encoder,0x00200000,2,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
    ATI MPEG Audio Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,atimpenc64.dll,13.30.0000.40417
    AMD MJPEG Decoder,0x00200000,1,1,atimpenc64.dll,13.30.0000.40417
    ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
    Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,,
    Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    AMD Video Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,atimpenc64.dll,13.30.0000.40417
    ATI MPEG Multiplexer,0x00200000,2,1,atimpenc64.dll,13.30.0000.40417
    VPS Decoder,0x00200000,0,0,WSTPager.ax,6.06.7601.17514
    WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,12.00.7601.17514
    VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,6.01.7601.17514
    File writer,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
    iTV Data Sink,0x00600000,1,0,itvdata.dll,6.06.7601.17514
    iTV Data Capture filter,0x00600000,1,1,itvdata.dll,6.06.7601.17514
    AMD Video Scaler Filter,0x00200000,1,1,atimpenc64.dll,13.30.0000.40417
    Adobe PSI Parser,0x00200000,0,0,PSIParser.dll,
    DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,3,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    Microsoft TV Subtitles Decoder,0x00200001,1,0,MSTVCapn.dll,6.01.7601.17715
    Overlay Mixer2,0x00200000,1,1,,
    RDP DShow Redirection Filter,0xffffffff,1,0,DShowRdpFilter.dll,
    Microsoft MPEG-2 Audio Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
    WST Pager,0x00200000,1,1,WSTPager.ax,6.06.7601.17514
    MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
    DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
    SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.06.7601.18386
    Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.06.7601.18386
    MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.7601.17514
    Microsoft AC3 Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msac3enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
    StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
    Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
    Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,,
    AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    NetBridge,0x00200000,2,0,netbridge.dll,6.01.7601.17514
    AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    TS Strider,0x00200000,1,1,TSStrider.dll,
    Dump,0x00200000,1,0,DvFileWriter.prm,9.00.0000.0000
    Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    AMD Video Rotation Filter,0x00200000,1,1,atimpenc64.dll,13.30.0000.40417
    TSSourcePush,0x00200000,0,1,TSSourcePush.dll,
    Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder,0x005fffff,1,1,msmpeg2adec.dll,6.01.7140.0000
    StreamBufferSink2,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
    AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
    Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    Media Center Extender Encryption Filter,0x00200000,2,2,Mcx2Filter.dll,6.01.7601.17514
    AudioRecorder WAV Dest,0x00200000,0,0,WavDest.dll,
    AudioRecorder Wave Form,0x00200000,0,0,WavDest.dll,
    SoundRecorder Null Renderer,0x00200000,0,0,WavDest.dll,
    Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
    Enhanced Video Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,evr.dll,6.01.7601.17514
    BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00200000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.7601.17669
    MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

    WDM Streaming Tee/Splitter Devices:
    Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

    Video Compressors:
    WMVideo8 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvxencd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
    WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvencod.dll,6.01.7600.16385
    MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvsencd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
    DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
    MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

    Audio Compressors:
    WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMSPDMOE.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
    WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMADMOE.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
    ATI MPEG Audio Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,atimpenc64.dll,13.30.0000.40417
    IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    PCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

    Audio Capture Sources:
    Microphone (DYNEX USB MIC Devic,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
    Stereo Mix (IDT High Definition,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514

    PBDA CP Filters:
    PBDA DTFilter,0x00600000,1,1,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528
    PBDA ETFilter,0x00200000,0,0,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528
    PBDA PTFilter,0x00200000,0,0,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528

    Midi Renderers:
    Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

    WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
    ,0x00000000,0,0,,
    ,0x00000000,0,0,,
    ,0x00000000,0,0,,
    MicIn,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
    MuxedIn1,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
    HP Webcam,0x00200000,1,2,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
    DYNEX USB MIC Device,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

    WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
    AMD HD Audio HDMI out #0,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
    Dock HpOut,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
    LineOut,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
    ,0x00000000,0,0,,
    ,0x00000000,0,0,,

    BDA Network Providers:
    Microsoft ATSC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
    Microsoft DVBC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
    Microsoft DVBS Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
    Microsoft DVBT Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
    Microsoft Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514

    Video Capture Sources:
    HP Webcam,0x00200000,1,2,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

    Multi-Instance Capable VBI Codecs:
    VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.7601.17514

    BDA Transport Information Renderers:
    BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00600000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.7601.17669
    MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x00600000,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.7601.17514

    BDA CP/CA Filters:
    Decrypt/Tag,0x00600000,1,1,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708
    Encrypt/Tag,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708
    PTFilter,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708
    XDS Codec,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708

    WDM Streaming Communication Transforms:
    Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

    Audio Renderers:
    Speakers and Headphones (IDT Hi,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    AMD HDMI Output (AMD High Defin,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    DirectSound: AMD HDMI Output (AMD High Definition Audio Device),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    DirectSound: Independent Headphones (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    DirectSound: Speakers and Headphones (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    Independent Headphones (IDT Hig,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

    EVR Power Information
    Current Setting: {5C67A112-A4C9-483F-B4A7-1D473BECAFDC} (Quality)
    Quality Flags: 2576
    Enabled:
    Force throttling
    Allow half deinterlace
    Allow scaling
    Decode Power Usage: 100
    Balanced Flags: 1424
    Enabled:
    Force throttling
    Allow batching
    Force half deinterlace
    Force scaling
    Decode Power Usage: 50
    PowerFlags: 1424
    Enabled:
    Force throttling
    Allow batching
    Force half deinterlace
    Force scaling
    Decode Power Usage: 0
    Edited by IcyDeadPeople on 8 July 2014 16:45
  • Pixelex
    Pixelex
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    Hm.. for me after patching the login screen version shows 1.2.4?!? Is this only a display issue?
    Meisterangler alias Masterfischi
    www.pixelex.net
  • Raizin
    Raizin
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    Omnevolus wrote: »
    The hotfix appears to have worked.

    Now we must furrow our brows in consternation, then demand explanations instead of just being grateful for being provided what we had previously demanded.

    (Sings): "I see your truuuue colors shiiiining through!"

    ZOS: Can you guys put together a hotfix for the forum community?

    But in all seriousness: Good work, ZOS! Thank you!

    the fps is still horrible, i had much higher before "that" patch, this is fixed only "half way".
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  • Savitar
    Savitar
    ✭✭✭
    nm..
    Edited by Savitar on 8 July 2014 16:57
  • NewBlacksmurf
    NewBlacksmurf
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Turelus wrote: »
    We have pushed a client hotfix to the both North American and European megaservers. This hotfix will require you to log out of the game and patch before it is applied.
    Update: the hotfix is completed on NA, and we are working on pushing it to the EU megaserver.

    So is the fix live on the EU servers or not?
    The first post made it sound like you pushed them both at the same time, the second made it sound like EU is still waiting (and was posted and hour ago).
    Apologies for the confusion! As @Larira said, the hotfix is now live on both megaservers. I will update the later post to clarify this.


    The hotfix doesn't fix anything. Yesterday I repaired the game and played with VERY low FPS but no Bad Load Error's

    Today I got the hotfix, restarted my PC and loaded the game... and within 2 minute BAM "Bad Load Error" and the FPS or rather the NPC's still dont show up from time to time whether its a battle or just talking in towns, outside on roads.

    what are we paying for?
    -PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
    ~<{[50]}>~ looks better than *501
  • alkoriak
    alkoriak
    ✭✭✭
    Is it a display bug? but I still have 1.2.4.1017325 and 7/7/2014 after restarting the launcher. Should we download patch 1.2.5 manually?
  • gamma71
    gamma71
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    Much much better, good job.
  • NorthernFury
    NorthernFury
    ✭✭✭✭
    Props where props are due....well done, ZoS!

    Skadi Storm-Blade - VR14 Altmer Sorcerer
    Brynnhild Valkyrja - VR12 Nord DragonKnight
    Haakon Hardrada - VR12 Nord Templar
    Sanguine's Tester (retired)

    Cattle die
    kinsmen die
    all men are mortal.
    Words of praise
    will never perish
    nor a noble name.

    - The Havamal
  • RatsnevE
    RatsnevE
    ✭✭✭
    I wonder if this hotfix was applied to the 1.2.4 patch and that applying it required reverting the 1.2.5 patch back to 1.2.4? Regardless, my game also says it is 1.2.4.1017325. What happened to 1.2.5.nnnnnnn?

    Would it be asking to much to display some identification that a hotfix was applied? My last version for 1.2.4 ended with 1015292 which is different from the 1.2.4 today (1017325).

    What's going on? You are still showing patch notes for 1.2.5 here. What's going on?
  • Xael
    Xael
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    We have identified the primary cause of the performance issues (FPS drops) that some of you have been experiencing since we released v1.2.3. This has been most noticeable in Cyrodiil, but also in PVE areas. We have pushed a client hotfix to the both North American and European megaservers. This hotfix will require you to log out of the game and patch before it is applied.

    We sincerely thank you for your patience as we work to improve game performance. Please let us know how the game plays for you after this hotfix.

    Thank you.

    I tried some PvP this morning after reading the forum that an alleged fix came in last night. I noticed my frames were better but there is still stutttering and massive fps dives near keeps.

    While the FPS does try and correct itself, it's still diminished to a point of noticible stutter. It's much worse than it was prior to 1.2.3.

    My question is: Have you considered this issue fixed? Because it's clearly not. I should have 60fps in big fights (as I once did) and right now I drop to 12-20.
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌ this issue should not be considered resolved.
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    Edited by Xael on 8 July 2014 17:38
    I got killed in pvp, nerf everything...
  • bruceb14_ESO5
    bruceb14_ESO5
    ✭✭✭
    Thank you!!! After the HotFix last night I could actually participate in large skirmish at a Keep without the frustration of using skills (frustration fighting against a strong defense was another story). FPS still lower than a month ago, but at least it was playable. Doesn't matter to me what the problem was, but that it is being addressed I'm thankful.
  • Inzababa
    Inzababa
    ✭✭✭
    just tested it in a big fight and there is indeed a huge improvement.

    It's playable, in big fights, averaging 20-25 fps.

    On the other hand, it still need to be improved cause I'm pretty sure the FPS of a few weeks ago was much smoother.

    Basically, thanks, nice one, it's playable now, but still not perfect :)
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