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Silver Shard. Vampire Petition

  • CASP3R421
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    Columba wrote: »
    the twilight kiddie tears....fulfill me.

    Notice none of the bram stoker vamps are complaining about the nerfs.

    Just the crystalline dream pansies

    My Alt is a Mer

    Due to the excessive amount of bait that we had to remove, this thread will remain closed
  • LrdRahvin
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    CASP3R421 wrote: »
    Columba wrote: »
    the twilight kiddie tears....fulfill me.

    Notice none of the bram stoker vamps are complaining about the nerfs.

    Just the crystalline dream pansies

    Anne Rice FTW!
  • RedTalon
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    Columba wrote: »
    Twilight kiddie tears are delicious


    I never saw that has a vampire story more an emo love story, so yes tears are yummy.
  • StihlReign
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    StihlReign wrote: »
    can we please get the rpers out of this thread and talk about a skill line? OR..I could start a thread about those nasty magic user sorcs and how they shouldn't be in the fighters guild cause they have their own.

    Role play has little to do with this.

    The Fighter's Guild is designed to Kill the Undead.

    Everyone in game is a magicka user at some point. Everyone doesn't make the choice to become a Vampire or Werewolf.

    Those who do, should NOT have access the the Fighter's Guild skill lines. Vampire and Werewolf are special skill lines. Fighter's Guild is the only skill line specifically designed to kill them.

    Trap beast? Ring of Preservation, Evil Hunter, Skilled Tracker? Banish the Wicked...Slayer?

    Vampires roaming around in guilds and packs...swarming and killing everyone...lol

    Not anymore.

    Fighter's Guild is here to bring order to imbalance. The Undead. Silver bolts works just fine.
    Its been stated aswell about 50 times in previous posts that only a handful of vamps could (or wanted to) pull off the batswarm exploit. So for christ sake, find a new leading point for your arguments.

    Yes, I apologize, I've dutifully ignored those statements.

    However; perhaps you — (since you've spoken up and appear to be representative of the Vampire crowd), can present us the links to all those posts where folks were begging ZoS to please nerf this bats warm ability that has us going crazy in Cyrodiil killing everyone and rapidly climbing the leaderboards while raking in massive AP...

    No?

    Ah well. Guess I'm off to Cyrodiil and my Van Helsing impression. Love that Dev who fixed Silver Bolts btw.
    "O divine art of subtlety and secrecy!

    Through you we learn to be invisible, through you inaudible; and hence we can hold the enemy’s fate in our hands.” – Ch. VI, v. 8-9. — Master Sun Tzu

    "You haven't beaten me you've sacrificed sure footing for a killing stroke." — Ra's al Ghul

    He who is prudent and lies in wait for an enemy who is not, will be victorious — Master Sun Tzu

    LoS
  • Morostyle
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    I got hit by silver shard for 3,6k 1 Shotted - and im not even a vamp! BAHAHA
  • nukeyoo
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    Morostyle wrote: »
    I got hit by silver shard for 3,6k 1 Shotted - and im not even a vamp! BAHAHA
    It can be reflected. If aimed at a vamp on reflection; you take the damage intended.
    - done w/ it
  • nukeyoo
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    StihlReign wrote: »
    Yes, I apologize, I've dutifully ignored those statements.

    However; perhaps you — (since you've spoken up and appear to be representative of the Vampire crowd), can present us the links to all those posts where folks were begging ZoS to please nerf this bats warm ability that has us going crazy in Cyrodiil killing everyone and rapidly climbing the leaderboards while raking in massive AP...
    My understanding of your request is simply asking for links to threads of people asking for it to be nerfed.

    forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/85987/vampire-ultimate-bat-swarm-is-literally-out-of-control
    forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/89629/zos-are-you-aware-of-the-bat-swarm-vampire-issue
    forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/91473/pvp-as-a-vampire-from-a-player-perspective-infinite-bat-swarm
    forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/85248/zos-pls-fix-vamp-s-ultimate-and-passive-abilities
    forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/90129/i-don-t-think-the-proposed-aoe-nerf-will-fix-bat-swarm
    forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/88270/sorc-vamp-bat-swarm
    forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/90880/is-the-bat-swarm-ultimate-cooldown-abuse-making-you-spend-less-time-in-cyrodill

    Just a few of them... What'd you want them for?
    - done w/ it
  • mcmozes
    mcmozes
    some exploiters created an addon to have vampires marked with a dot over the head so they all spamm silver shards like mad and moslty they krit for 6k hp ffs i only hve 3.2k with food
  • DarkMuhi
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    I'm vampires hunter and please do not fix this is not bug is a way how any vampire's have to die and always will be.
    I want to be vampire but I don't want to take any dmg ? Are you for real ?
    Former Emperor
    DarkMuhi
  • LrdRahvin
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    DarkMuhi wrote: »
    I'm vampires hunter and please do not fix this is not bug is a way how any vampire's have to die and always will be.
    I want to be vampire but I don't want to take any dmg ? Are you for real ?

    Put down the skooma and slowly step away.
  • DarkMuhi
    DarkMuhi
    DarkMuhi wrote: »
    I'm vampires hunter and please do not fix this is not bug is a way how any vampire's have to die and always will be.
    I want to be vampire but I don't want to take any dmg ? Are you for real ?

    Put down the skooma and slowly step away.

    How many vampires was farmed us on pvp ? For how long I'm asking ?
    Now when we can simply take are poins back is a big cry by those ppl who exploited batswarm for many weaks.
    And now you can step back son.

    Former Emperor
    DarkMuhi
  • LrdRahvin
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    DarkMuhi wrote: »
    DarkMuhi wrote: »
    I'm vampires hunter and please do not fix this is not bug is a way how any vampire's have to die and always will be.
    I want to be vampire but I don't want to take any dmg ? Are you for real ?

    Put down the skooma and slowly step away.

    How many vampires was farmed us on pvp ? For how long I'm asking ?
    Now when we can simply take are poins back is a big cry by those ppl who exploited batswarm for many weaks.
    And now you can step back son.

    You were supposed to put down the skooma not chug the rest of it.
  • StihlReign
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    nukeyoo wrote: »
    StihlReign wrote: »
    Yes, I apologize, I've dutifully ignored those statements.

    However; perhaps you — (since you've spoken up and appear to be representative of the Vampire crowd), can present us the links to all those posts where folks were begging ZoS to please nerf this bats warm ability that has us going crazy in Cyrodiil killing everyone and rapidly climbing the leaderboards while raking in massive AP...
    My understanding of your request is simply asking for links to threads of people asking for it to be nerfed.


    Just a few of them... What'd you want them for?

    lol...Nice try. You should probably re-read what I wrote.

    "O divine art of subtlety and secrecy!

    Through you we learn to be invisible, through you inaudible; and hence we can hold the enemy’s fate in our hands.” – Ch. VI, v. 8-9. — Master Sun Tzu

    "You haven't beaten me you've sacrificed sure footing for a killing stroke." — Ra's al Ghul

    He who is prudent and lies in wait for an enemy who is not, will be victorious — Master Sun Tzu

    LoS
  • Kiljaz
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    Funny how people cry about one exploit and then are happy about an exploit they use. You're all trash. Exploiters are all worthless little noobs who need a crutch because they suck.
  • Teargrants
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    What's this about vampires being unkillable and how can I get in on it? They are easier to kill than non vamps thanks to fire weakness and 75% reduced health regen. Fire ballista and fire trebs will 2 shot a vamp, oil 1 shots.

    All of this "silver bolts fine cuz vamps hurt my feelings" QQ is some of the most asinine discussion I've had the displeasure of reading on these forums.

    Claiming that it's ok because you need payback for vampire synergies being broken on launch is a complete non sequiter, but then again those arguments were never about making a valid point.
    Edited by Teargrants on 30 June 2014 01:52
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  • yelloweyedemon
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    mcmozes wrote: »
    some exploiters created an addon to have vampires marked with a dot over the head so they all spamm silver shards like mad and moslty they krit for 6k hp ffs i only hve 3.2k with food

    Just by the use of "tamriel foundry" addon (wich all should use anyways) you can see from the buff on the character who is a vamp and who is not.

    Also not quite sure what "krit" or "spamm' really is, but I can tell you for sure that if you are getting 6k hits, you need to stop mixing moon sugar with wine.
  • Xael
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    We're on this, folks. Please see our known issues list for v1.2.3.


    (Also, just a gentle reminder: We really frown on petitions. They are not constructive, or how we recommend going about requesting or suggesting change, fixes, updates, etc.)

    "One-Shots in Cyrodiil: We’ve seen reports that some of you believe you are being one-shotted, but cannot determine how or why.

    STATUS: Potentially fixed with patch 1.2.4"

    What kind of wording is this? Have you not seen my screenshots or anyone elses? I have several screenshots of death recaps and this is the only thing hitting me. Sorry but we don't believe, we know. It's a verifiable fact that Silver Bolts and it's morphs are 1 shotting vamps. I have put in over 30 hours in Cyrodiil this weekend and died from 1 shots over 100 times easily.

    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌ if ZOS is unaware of this issue, you really are dropping the ball. Please look into this immediately.

    VK3Fiff.jpg
    I got killed in pvp, nerf everything...
  • wllstrt75b14_ESO
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    I have one better then you all, my DK is not a vampire or wolfie just a member of the living and look at this kill log....

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    Edited by wllstrt75b14_ESO on 30 June 2014 03:19
  • hammer_fella
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    Sure do love getting my VR12 one-shotted by a lvl 13.
    Edited by hammer_fella on 30 June 2014 03:21
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  • StihlReign
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    13 Alliance War Rank...
    "O divine art of subtlety and secrecy!

    Through you we learn to be invisible, through you inaudible; and hence we can hold the enemy’s fate in our hands.” – Ch. VI, v. 8-9. — Master Sun Tzu

    "You haven't beaten me you've sacrificed sure footing for a killing stroke." — Ra's al Ghul

    He who is prudent and lies in wait for an enemy who is not, will be victorious — Master Sun Tzu

    LoS
  • nukeyoo
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    I have one better then you all, my DK is not a vampire or wolfie just a member of the living and look at this kill log....

    j67i.png[/URL]
    nukeyoo wrote: »
    Morostyle wrote: »
    I got hit by silver shard for 3,6k 1 Shotted - and im not even a vamp! BAHAHA
    It can be reflected. If aimed at a vamp on reflection; you take the damage intended.
    It's been discussed...

    - done w/ it
  • ElectricBlue97
    StihlReign wrote: »
    nukeyoo wrote: »
    StihlReign wrote: »
    Yes, I apologize, I've dutifully ignored those statements.

    However; perhaps you — (since you've spoken up and appear to be representative of the Vampire crowd), can present us the links to all those posts where folks were begging ZoS to please nerf this bats warm ability that has us going crazy in Cyrodiil killing everyone and rapidly climbing the leaderboards while raking in massive AP...
    My understanding of your request is simply asking for links to threads of people asking for it to be nerfed.


    Just a few of them... What'd you want them for?

    lol...Nice try. You should probably re-read what I wrote.
    Perhaps you should reread what I wrote aswell sir.
    Maybe about 1% of vampires could pull off the vampire exploit (probably less). while 100% of players can use silverbolts if their competent enough to drag it on their bar. I dont know about you but i can solve simple math and 1% is considerably lower than 100%. Please stop ignoring facts. Any way you look at it the only reason people want to keep the silverbolts as it is, is because their bad players and need an extreme crutch to pretend their good.
    And dear everyone else, please come back with an original argument for why silverbolts should be kept, because the anti-exploitbolt side as come up with several original arguments to refute the #ineedacrutch team
  • Tintinabula
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    People have been using a crutch against vamps for three months now. You were NEVER supposed to be able to root them while they're in mist form. I taloned one tonight. So where are all the posts calling to get that fixed?
  • Kiljaz
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    I have one better then you all, my DK is not a vampire or wolfie just a member of the living and look at this kill log....

    j67i.png[/URL]

    You deserve this reflect lol... victim of your own attempt at exploiting.

  • ElectricBlue97
    People have been using a crutch against vamps for three months now. You were NEVER supposed to be able to root them while they're in mist form. I taloned one tonight. So where are all the posts calling to get that fixed?

    Its because thats not a major problem, its more a minor annoyance to most vamps. Plus you can't oneshot with talons, mistform negates 75% of the damage from that plus the speed to get away. Theres no damage avoidance if they manage to get a silverbolt off. TBH I didnt realise that was a glitch. Figured it worked because like most AoEs bypass the invis.
  • StihlReign
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    StihlReign wrote: »
    nukeyoo wrote: »
    StihlReign wrote: »
    Yes, I apologize, I've dutifully ignored those statements.

    However; perhaps you — (since you've spoken up and appear to be representative of the Vampire crowd), can present us the links to all those posts where folks were begging ZoS to please nerf this bats warm ability that has us going crazy in Cyrodiil killing everyone and rapidly climbing the leaderboards while raking in massive AP...
    My understanding of your request is simply asking for links to threads of people asking for it to be nerfed.


    Just a few of them... What'd you want them for?

    lol...Nice try. You should probably re-read what I wrote.
    Perhaps you should reread what I wrote aswell sir.
    Maybe about 1% of vampires could pull off the vampire exploit (probably less). while 100% of players can use silverbolts if their competent enough to drag it on their bar. I dont know about you but i can solve simple math and 1% is considerably lower than 100%. Please stop ignoring facts. Any way you look at it the only reason people want to keep the silverbolts as it is, is because their bad players and need an extreme crutch to pretend their good.
    And dear everyone else, please come back with an original argument for why silverbolts should be kept, because the anti-exploitbolt side as come up with several original arguments to refute the #ineedacrutch team

    lol..."Maybe" isn't a fact. Neither is your math. It's based on a supposition grounded in nothing.

    "Any way you look at it the only reason"...lol

    You made up a reason? There are plenty of reason's here. Why not use one of those? There's no need to make up reasons.

    Example. Vampires and Werewolves have access to the Fighters Guild skill lines. They shouldn't. They are undead. I should be able to one shot kill them.

    I believe I've stated this often...perhaps your comment was meant for someone else?


    "O divine art of subtlety and secrecy!

    Through you we learn to be invisible, through you inaudible; and hence we can hold the enemy’s fate in our hands.” – Ch. VI, v. 8-9. — Master Sun Tzu

    "You haven't beaten me you've sacrificed sure footing for a killing stroke." — Ra's al Ghul

    He who is prudent and lies in wait for an enemy who is not, will be victorious — Master Sun Tzu

    LoS
  • hammer_fella
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    Sure do love getting my VR12 one-shotted by a lvl 13.
    StihlReign wrote: »
    13 Alliance War Rank...
    If you were replying to me, I did indeed mean a level 13, brand-new-to-PVP Recruit, not Alliance Rank 13. I am myself Rank 18 with nearly 3000 health, so it would still be something of any insult.
    Edited by hammer_fella on 30 June 2014 12:26
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  • StihlReign
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    StihlReign wrote: »
    13 Alliance War Rank...
    If you were replying to me, I did indeed mean a level 13, brand-new-to-PVP Recruit, not Alliance Rank 13. I am myself Rank 18 with nearly 3000 health, so it would still be something of any insult.

    I was looking at the report posted by another user which showed an Alliance War Rank of 13.

    I'm sorry, perhaps you can repost your screenshot of the level 13 killing you?
    "O divine art of subtlety and secrecy!

    Through you we learn to be invisible, through you inaudible; and hence we can hold the enemy’s fate in our hands.” – Ch. VI, v. 8-9. — Master Sun Tzu

    "You haven't beaten me you've sacrificed sure footing for a killing stroke." — Ra's al Ghul

    He who is prudent and lies in wait for an enemy who is not, will be victorious — Master Sun Tzu

    LoS
  • ElectricBlue97
    StihlReign wrote: »
    StihlReign wrote: »
    nukeyoo wrote: »
    StihlReign wrote: »
    Yes, I apologize, I've dutifully ignored those statements.

    However; perhaps you — (since you've spoken up and appear to be representative of the Vampire crowd), can present us the links to all those posts where folks were begging ZoS to please nerf this bats warm ability that has us going crazy in Cyrodiil killing everyone and rapidly climbing the leaderboards while raking in massive AP...
    My understanding of your request is simply asking for links to threads of people asking for it to be nerfed.


    Just a few of them... What'd you want them for?

    lol...Nice try. You should probably re-read what I wrote.
    Perhaps you should reread what I wrote aswell sir.
    Maybe about 1% of vampires could pull off the vampire exploit (probably less). while 100% of players can use silverbolts if their competent enough to drag it on their bar. I dont know about you but i can solve simple math and 1% is considerably lower than 100%. Please stop ignoring facts. Any way you look at it the only reason people want to keep the silverbolts as it is, is because their bad players and need an extreme crutch to pretend their good.
    And dear everyone else, please come back with an original argument for why silverbolts should be kept, because the anti-exploitbolt side as come up with several original arguments to refute the #ineedacrutch team

    lol..."Maybe" isn't a fact. Neither is your math. It's based on a supposition grounded in nothing.

    "Any way you look at it the only reason"...lol

    You made up a reason? There are plenty of reason's here. Why not use one of those? There's no need to make up reasons.

    Example. Vampires and Werewolves have access to the Fighters Guild skill lines. They shouldn't. They are undead. I should be able to one shot kill them.

    I believe I've stated this often...perhaps your comment was meant for someone else?


    I had stated in a previous post I agree with cutting off the fighters guild treeline to vamps/wolfs because it would make sense seeing as human scum don't have access to our trees.
    And I used other reasons. Stated by other players, the ones that make sense but seem to be ignored.

    Example. Vampires and Werewolves have access to the Fighters Guild skill lines. Oh well. Your human. I should be able to shove my hand into your squishy human chest and rip out your still beating heart.

    Where's my oneshot humans spell sir? Putting lore aside for a second. Its an MMO the spells are meant to have counters to give both sides an equal fighting chance. If you'd like them to leave in the oneshot vampires spell your going to have to have them push the bat swarm exploit back into the game to make it even. Though somehow keeping both those insanely OP spells in the game doesn't seem much fun for werewolfs. Lets also give them their wolf form where they can charge into crowds and dismember people with their bear hands (paws?).

    If you want to play MMOs you need to know ClassBalance>Lore
  • Rylana
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    So what are you noobs gonna do now that it doesnt work anymore >:)
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