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Silver Shard. Vampire Petition

  • Chryos
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    This is true, you are being paid by us, for us to test the game, this also means, ZOS needs to stop being so overbearing on removing posts just because ZOS does not want to hear anything negative, just like we don't want to play anything that is not working as intended. This is a bad trend that's happening in all MMO's anyway. I'm not trying to jump of the negativity bandwagon, because I do like ESO. However, the standards are dropping in this MMO industry.

    Sure, it's not constructive to "make petitions", or is it?, if that's what it takes for an issue to be addressed. This MMO most likely has more adults playing than kids, so you can't treat us like kids, because that is not your customer base.

    Ok, so this is your game, you make the rules, and we just rent the service, I however wont post anymore because I feel like I have teenagers modding the forums. Just let us post without the worry "of getting banned".

    I guess that is all I can say about this. I understand there are trolls and just want to hurt your business because they can, however your customers are smart enough to not need to have their hands held in the forums or be protected from the trolls.

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  • Tintinabula
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    can we please get the rpers out of this thread and talk about a skill line? OR..I could start a thread about those nasty magic user sorcs and how they shouldn't be in the fighters guild cause they have their own.
  • LrdRahvin
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    Sihnfahl wrote: »
    Hello sir, have you heard the good word about our lord and saviour Molag Bal ? :)
    Blasphemer! All power and glory to the Great Lord Sheogorath!

    Cheese for everyone!

    Pffffffftttttttt!

    All Hail Sithis >:)
  • nukeyoo
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    can we please get the rpers out of this thread and talk about a skill line? OR..I could start a thread about those nasty magic user sorcs and how they shouldn't be in the fighters guild cause they have their own.
    It's called Mage's Guild. Mage is short for Magician. Magicians perform/use magic. So that thread would not make any sense. Excluding fighter guild skills meant to specifically counter vamp/werewolf from those that choose to be vamp/werewolf makes plenty of sense.
    - done w/ it
  • Catches_the_Sun
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    Why is there a part of me that wants this glitch to be effective for exactly the same number of days that infinite Bat Swarm glitch was effective? ;)
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  • Omnevolus
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    Black-Bird wrote: »

    "waaaaaahhhhhhh we were OP thanks to bugs for the start of every campaign waaaaaaahhhhhhh now we are on the receiving end of a bug for less than 72 hours waaaaaaahhhhhh zenimax said they will fix it BUT DATS KNOT GUD ENUGH NOW waaaahhhhh unsub this unfair that waaaaaaahhhhhh I know I can spec out and respec later or just not enter PvP but waaaaaaaaahhhhhhh I know werewolves have been borderline broken since release waaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh but I want special treatment NAO waaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh "

    Pretty much! lol
  • Columba
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    the scream when another twilight moron is banished arouses me.
  • Rylana
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    Sihnfahl wrote: »
    Hello sir, have you heard the good word about our lord and saviour Molag Bal ? :)
    Blasphemer! All power and glory to the Great Lord Sheogorath!

    Cheese for everyone!

    Boring. Try a little harder next time will you?

    Say something like, POWER AND GLORY TO THE MAD GOD SHEOGORATH, MAY YOU EAT CHEESE ETERNALLY IMPRISONED IN A MAZE WITH SKEEVERS
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  • Soliss
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    You guys have it all wrong. Silver bolts does not need to be "fixed". It actually should be brought up properly to the lore by making it inflict "permanent death" when it hits.

    Pretty soon there will be more vampires at all. And you should be able to use it on your own faction. Damn blood drinkers. That way you can kill the ones that don't make it to Cyrodiil.

    Problem solved.
  • Rylana
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    Soliss wrote: »
    You guys have it all wrong. Silver bolts does not need to be "fixed". It actually should be brought up properly to the lore by making it inflict "permanent death" when it hits.

    Pretty soon there will be more vampires at all. And you should be able to use it on your own faction. Damn blood drinkers. That way you can kill the ones that don't make it to Cyrodiil.

    Problem solved.

    You do of course realize that some people are vampires and do not roleplay as one, correct?

    10% magicka regen and stealth speed, all I care about.
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  • Junipus
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    There's so much butthurt in this thread it's one giant bum blocking out the sun, aiding vampires forever!
    The Legendary Nothing
  • StihlReign
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    can we please get the rpers out of this thread and talk about a skill line? OR..I could start a thread about those nasty magic user sorcs and how they shouldn't be in the fighters guild cause they have their own.

    Role play has little to do with this.

    The Fighter's Guild is designed to Kill the Undead.

    Everyone in game is a magicka user at some point. Everyone doesn't make the choice to become a Vampire or Werewolf.

    Those who do, should NOT have access the the Fighter's Guild skill lines. Vampire and Werewolf are special skill lines. Fighter's Guild is the only skill line specifically designed to kill them.

    Trap beast? Ring of Preservation, Evil Hunter, Skilled Tracker? Banish the Wicked...Slayer?

    Vampires roaming around in guilds and packs...swarming and killing everyone...lol

    Not anymore.

    Fighter's Guild is here to bring order to imbalance. The Undead. Silver bolts works just fine.
    "O divine art of subtlety and secrecy!

    Through you we learn to be invisible, through you inaudible; and hence we can hold the enemy’s fate in our hands.” – Ch. VI, v. 8-9. — Master Sun Tzu

    "You haven't beaten me you've sacrificed sure footing for a killing stroke." — Ra's al Ghul

    He who is prudent and lies in wait for an enemy who is not, will be victorious — Master Sun Tzu

    LoS
  • Rylana
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    So what are you going to do when one of the following two happens.

    1. They fix the bug as they have stated they are going to do.
    2. Every vamp player either drops vamp and destroys you because youre relying on a crutch to "win" or starts playing alts that arent vamps and destroy you with them instead?

    Honestly the number of you in here defending a one hit crutch is absolutely laughable. Youre bad.
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  • Columba
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    Twilight kiddie tears are delicious
  • Kiljaz
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    We're on this, folks. Please see our known issues list for v1.2.3.


    (Also, just a gentle reminder: We really frown on petitions. They are not constructive, or how we recommend going about requesting or suggesting change, fixes, updates, etc.)

    Ok @ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌ , we're glad you're on it, but an exploit that 70% of people are using as their first attack vs everyone just to see if they're a vampire because they know it is a 1 button kill at the moment, requires a HOTFIX. So get off your butts and fix it already ffs. It's been what, 3 days? Do we need to start writing the code as well as paying subscription fees for this game to work as intended? If so, please let me know, I'd gladly help you.
  • Infraction
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    Kiljaz wrote: »
    We're on this, folks. Please see our known issues list for v1.2.3.


    (Also, just a gentle reminder: We really frown on petitions. They are not constructive, or how we recommend going about requesting or suggesting change, fixes, updates, etc.)

    Ok @ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌ , we're glad you're on it, but an exploit that 70% of people are using as their first attack vs everyone just to see if they're a vampire because they know it is a 1 button kill at the moment, requires a HOTFIX. So get off your butts and fix it already ffs. It's been what, 3 days? Do we need to start writing the code as well as paying subscription fees for this game to work as intended? If so, please let me know, I'd gladly help you.

    Its the weekend. It aint getting fixed on a weekend, they are off having fun with strippers and coke from your sub money.

  • yelloweyedemon
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    On a serious note I agree that Vampires and Werewolves should NOT have access to the Fighters guild skill line, OR the race passives of the character. (You are a vampire/WW not a mix of your previous race and a vamp)

    No I don't care about RP, but being Vampire/ WW should 1: Be rare and 2: come at a price.

    Currently I could say that at least HALF of Cyrodiil's population are Vampires, and the only real issue they have to deal with is the fire thingy which can be seriously reduced with only 1 ring.

    I won't even mention how extremelly powerfull passives such as Dark Stalker or Undeath are...
  • Grim13
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    So... I cleansed myself of vampirism just so I could play PvP... spent 20.3k and respecced in order to redistribute my vamp skill points... thinking that I could still have my stealthy sprinting by donning the Night's Silence set with it's 220% increase to stealth speed, and running Concealed Weapon... only to discover that that set's bonuses are broken.

    Yep, the hate for Betamax is strong with this one. Very. Strong.
    Edited by Grim13 on 28 June 2014 22:27
  • Kiljaz
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    StihlReign wrote: »
    can we please get the rpers out of this thread and talk about a skill line? OR..I could start a thread about those nasty magic user sorcs and how they shouldn't be in the fighters guild cause they have their own.

    Role play has little to do with this.

    The Fighter's Guild is designed to Kill the Undead.

    Everyone in game is a magicka user at some point. Everyone doesn't make the choice to become a Vampire or Werewolf.

    Those who do, should NOT have access the the Fighter's Guild skill lines. Vampire and Werewolf are special skill lines. Fighter's Guild is the only skill line specifically designed to kill them.

    Trap beast? Ring of Preservation, Evil Hunter, Skilled Tracker? Banish the Wicked...Slayer?

    Vampires roaming around in guilds and packs...swarming and killing everyone...lol

    Not anymore.

    Fighter's Guild is here to bring order to imbalance. The Undead. Silver bolts works just fine.

    Ok that's fine, silver bolts 1 shots as it should you say.... So when a vampire sneaks up behind you and bites you, you're one shot... plus you're now a vampire so you can also enjoy silver bolts. As it should be... lol...[snip]..
    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting comments]
    Edited by ZOS_ShannonM on 29 June 2014 03:04
  • Dekkameron
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    StihlReign wrote: »
    can we please get the rpers out of this thread and talk about a skill line? OR..I could start a thread about those nasty magic user sorcs and how they shouldn't be in the fighters guild cause they have their own.

    Role play has little to do with this.

    The Fighter's Guild is designed to Kill the Undead.

    Everyone in game is a magicka user at some point. Everyone doesn't make the choice to become a Vampire or Werewolf.

    Those who do, should NOT have access the the Fighter's Guild skill lines. Vampire and Werewolf are special skill lines. Fighter's Guild is the only skill line specifically designed to kill them.

    Trap beast? Ring of Preservation, Evil Hunter, Skilled Tracker? Banish the Wicked...Slayer?

    Vampires roaming around in guilds and packs...swarming and killing everyone...lol

    Not anymore.

    Fighter's Guild is here to bring order to imbalance. The Undead. Silver bolts works just fine.

    Actually.. Fighters guild seems to have Vampires in it's rank and file as npcs...

    jE2VlyD.jpg

    This guy looks to be an Altmer vampire if i am not mistaken standing guard outside the Earth Forge during a quest.
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  • Atreyu
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    It's kind of sad reading people comments like "vampire tears are delicious".

    Me as many, probably the majority of the vampires around didnt exploit running around soloing 10+ group of people with broken bat swarm.

    Infact we were farmed by those exploiters aswell.

    And now we are even getting oneshotted by SB. More than half of my deaths since patch are due to this bug.

    This game just keep slapping people in their faces. What's next I wonder.
    Edited by Atreyu on 29 June 2014 02:38
    Atreyu - VR14 - DK
  • Tintinabula
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    besides spawning at your factions gate to craft something or use your bank and be soul assaulted by an enemy who is not supposed to be there?...anything im guessing.
  • ElectricBlue97



    StihlReign wrote: »
    can we please get the rpers out of this thread and talk about a skill line? OR..I could start a thread about those nasty magic user sorcs and how they shouldn't be in the fighters guild cause they have their own.

    Role play has little to do with this.

    The Fighter's Guild is designed to Kill the Undead.

    Everyone in game is a magicka user at some point. Everyone doesn't make the choice to become a Vampire or Werewolf.

    Those who do, should NOT have access the the Fighter's Guild skill lines. Vampire and Werewolf are special skill lines. Fighter's Guild is the only skill line specifically designed to kill them.

    Trap beast? Ring of Preservation, Evil Hunter, Skilled Tracker? Banish the Wicked...Slayer?

    Vampires roaming around in guilds and packs...swarming and killing everyone...lol

    Not anymore.

    Fighter's Guild is here to bring order to imbalance. The Undead. Silver bolts works just fine.


    I agree that vamps should not have access to fighters guild line -for lore reasons- But the tree itself is created to create balance between vamps/wolfs and regular players.
    On the other hand they keep the skill line open because vamp/wolf players want to be able to run though the lore (which zeni would be able to allow happen without adding the skill line).
    Though allowing one spell to oneshot many people isn't what is intended of the skill line. As I previously stated, the skill line isn't for regular players to be able to simply oneshot players. Its for players to have a even fight against vamps (or even a slight upper hand). Its been stated aswell about 50 times in previous posts that only a handful of vamps could (or wanted to) pull off the batswarm exploit. So for christ sake, find a new leading point for your arguments.
  • Kajoh_Americano
    On a serious note I agree that Vampires and Werewolves should NOT have access to the Fighters guild skill line, OR the race passives of the character. (You are a vampire/WW not a mix of your previous race and a vamp)

    No I don't care about RP, but being Vampire/ WW should 1: Be rare and 2: come at a price.

    Currently I could say that at least HALF of Cyrodiil's population are Vampires, and the only real issue they have to deal with is the fire thingy which can be seriously reduced with only 1 ring.

    I won't even mention how extremelly powerfull passives such as Dark Stalker or Undeath are...

    I am a bit unsure on whether ww/vamps should be exempt from having access to fighter's guild skills. Mostly because (a) it doesn't break any lore and (b) it doesn't make any sense balancing wise, vampirism already comes with its price being fire vulnerability and reduced health regen. But that being said, it wouldn't be the end of the world.

    However leave my racials alone,not only would that be an OTT nerf but it also makes no sense lore wise, nor balancing wise.

    Ps. undeath is bugged and hasnt worked since beta. Vamp is only good for the stealth speed and the small regen boost. The ulti/vamp ability reduction stages are still bugged beyond Oblivion and I'm sure they will be just as bugged 6 months from now. Zenimax is sadly EXTREMELY slow to patch, which means it is difficult to fully test the extent of any builds since there are always something messing it up.

    Personally I'm all for a buffed fighter's guild tree and a full revamp of the lolwolf tree so that EACH type of natural/supernatural being has its own niche. Sadly it was vamp that was the most developed (and least bugged despite all its issues) so obviously people went for it, especially pvpers who are all about being as optimal as possible.

    Maybe one day though. Personally I would be more than happy to drop my vampirism, but my NB needs the speed. It 's our only decent escape mechanism when coupled with shadow cloak.
    Edited by Kajoh_Americano on 29 June 2014 10:52
  • Dekkameron
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    However leave my racials alone,not only would that be an OTT nerf but it also makes no sense lore wise, nor balancing wise.

    I agree about the racial passives.. I mean Would an Argonian lose the ability to swim fast just because they have an urge now and then to suck on a neck? That's silly.

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  • quakedawg_ESO
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    Nerd rage is strong in this thread. So epic!
    Edited by quakedawg_ESO on 29 June 2014 13:51
    Pro Tip: Form a group of 4 and hang out with the zerg. Now you can claim you only run with 4. I'm l33t

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  • CASP3R421
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    This is the last straw for me. I refuse to be some freaking beta testing guinea pig.

    Don't let the door hit you

    My Alt is a Mer

    Due to the excessive amount of bait that we had to remove, this thread will remain closed
  • yelloweyedemon
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    So... I cleansed myself of vampirism just so I could play PvP... spent 20.3k and respecced in order to redistribute my vamp skill points... thinking that I could still have my stealthy sprinting by donning the Night's Silence set with it's 220% increase to stealth speed, and running Concealed Weapon... only to discover that that set's bonuses are broken.

    Yep, the hate for Betamax is strong with this one. Very. Strong.

    Did you really think it would not be a typo? I mean seriously 220% ?! Who would need a horse then?

    And yeah it's their fault that you didn't even bother asking if the set works before you respec.

    Welcome back to a non-god mode sneak speed
  • Prospero_ESO
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    No mercy for that devouring swarm exploiting nightblade vamptards. This is just countering one broken skill line with another.
  • Columba
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    the twilight kiddie tears....fulfill me.
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