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Silver Shard. Vampire Petition

  • Kajoh_Americano
    Rylana wrote: »
    I honestly dont see how making it some petty measure of "revenge" against a month dead meta mechanic is somehow constructive.

    Grudge much?

    No we just hate fangers that's all. They are undead. What's worse than that?

    sounds like you have an RP problem

    All I care is that vamps have an access to a NB stealth movement speed which is just wrong.
    I have had good fun today 1-shotting many vampires with 2.8k crits.

    Payback for the month-long batswarming that ruined PvP.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzVFugFcUto

    You guys do realise only a small portion of vampires could pull off the batswarm exploit, right ? The majority of us couldn't get the required ultimate reduction percentage to make it work even if we wanted to. I was vamp during the batswarm exploit, and I got batswarmed a hell of a lot too.

    By your logic, should we get some sort of nerf in order for anyone high enough in the alliance war tree to have unlocked caltrops ? Payback for something that happened sometimes ago, correct ?
    Frankly it sounds like you have no understanding of the vamp mechanics so you are just assuming vamp = batswarm spam. It's a shame that you base your entire opinion on an incorrect piece of information.

    You're missing the point.. I have nothing against the ulti exploit. I just hate vamps that's all.

    PS: Do you guys cry normal tears or is it blood like in True Blood?

    Sorry but your RP issues are not my problem, take it to Zenimax ^^

    And no I'm sorry, I don't buy into the new age vampire fad. I much prefer the Bram Stoker kind :)



  • Wraithen
    Wraithen
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    As a vampire I find this a hilariously funny bug and just think of it as hardcore mode it will get fixed soonish.... Best moment ever me vr6 vs 2 vr12 sorcs I win only to be one shot by a lvl 20 with silverbolts lol epic stuff . Some of us need to chill a bit
    Edited by Wraithen on 27 June 2014 14:20
  • Solanum
    Solanum
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    Seriously, people are petitioning for this?

    Might I remind you that when they fix it, it'll not be due to a bunch of people raging or petitioning, but simply because they're doing their jobs?

    As a Vampire, I find this nonsense annoying, but seriously, go rally for a cause that is less obvious. Have them balance stamina skills and heavy armor or something.
  • Junipus
    Junipus
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    Orchish wrote: »
    Not going to lie, i am absolutely loving using SB on vamps who like to pour oil in DC spawn area on Auriel's Bow EU. Seeing a player charge at you only to disintegrate with a single press of a button is quite satisfying. That said, as a pathetically weak Werewolf, i am now simply cannon fodder even in Orc form. I really need to get that crap cured since it seems like WW will never get fixed.

    Which gate are they camping at? Entered S. High Rock around early lunchtime and stealthed around the wayshrine with no-one in sight
    The Legendary Nothing
  • yelloweyedemon
    yelloweyedemon
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    Rylana wrote: »
    I honestly dont see how making it some petty measure of "revenge" against a month dead meta mechanic is somehow constructive.

    Grudge much?

    No we just hate fangers that's all. They are undead. What's worse than that?

    sounds like you have an RP problem

    All I care is that vamps have an access to a NB stealth movement speed which is just wrong.
    I have had good fun today 1-shotting many vampires with 2.8k crits.

    Payback for the month-long batswarming that ruined PvP.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzVFugFcUto

    You guys do realise only a small portion of vampires could pull off the batswarm exploit, right ? The majority of us couldn't get the required ultimate reduction percentage to make it work even if we wanted to. I was vamp during the batswarm exploit, and I got batswarmed a hell of a lot too.

    By your logic, should we get some sort of nerf in order for anyone high enough in the alliance war tree to have unlocked caltrops ? Payback for something that happened sometimes ago, correct ?
    Frankly it sounds like you have no understanding of the vamp mechanics so you are just assuming vamp = batswarm spam. It's a shame that you base your entire opinion on an incorrect piece of information.

    You're missing the point.. I have nothing against the ulti exploit. I just hate vamps that's all.

    PS: Do you guys cry normal tears or is it blood like in True Blood?

    Sorry but your RP issues are not my problem, take it to Zenimax ^^

    You know people are MAD when they start taking you for serious! :smiley:
  • ElectricBlue97
    Sihnfahl wrote: »
    You need to load an AvA Campaign up with people to test that.
    Which isn't activated on PTS, players have to go through the entire vamp hunt to get it....

    They can give the option to start off as vampire or werewolf on the character screen, or they can let you copy your main account characters onto PTS account. its a bit more code for them to write. But it would save them the embarrassment for disgruntled players writing these threads.
  • ElectricBlue97
    Rylana wrote: »
    I honestly dont see how making it some petty measure of "revenge" against a month dead meta mechanic is somehow constructive.

    Grudge much?

    No we just hate fangers that's all. They are undead. What's worse than that?

    sounds like you have an RP problem

    All I care is that vamps have an access to a NB stealth movement speed which is just wrong.
    I have had good fun today 1-shotting many vampires with 2.8k crits.

    Payback for the month-long batswarming that ruined PvP.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzVFugFcUto

    You guys do realise only a small portion of vampires could pull off the batswarm exploit, right ? The majority of us couldn't get the required ultimate reduction percentage to make it work even if we wanted to. I was vamp during the batswarm exploit, and I got batswarmed a hell of a lot too.

    By your logic, should we get some sort of nerf in order for anyone high enough in the alliance war tree to have unlocked caltrops ? Payback for something that happened sometimes ago, correct ?
    Frankly it sounds like you have no understanding of the vamp mechanics so you are just assuming vamp = batswarm spam. It's a shame that you base your entire opinion on an incorrect piece of information.

    You're missing the point.. I have nothing against the ulti exploit. I just hate vamps that's all.

    PS: Do you guys cry normal tears or is it blood like in True Blood?

    a little bit of both, and it gets to be a real mess if you get it on your clothes. Blood doesn't come out easy
    Edited by ElectricBlue97 on 27 June 2014 17:35
  • ElectricBlue97
    Samadhi wrote: »
    ...it is about how often Silver Bolts "banish" an enemy. It has at the moment a chance of 50%, not the 5% it should be. Yesterday I did a little statistical analysis. I counted how often I was hit by Silver Bolts or its morphs. I counted 24 hits, 12 of them were those "banish" procs. This is 50% chance. I used Silver Shards (morph of Silver Bolts) 28 times on other vampires with 13 procs, which is 46%.

    I guess somebody messed up the code and deleted accidentally a "0", so the factor .05 (= 5%) became .5 (= 50%).

    So what you're saying is
    Zenimax is going to fix the issue
    by changing the tooltip to read 50%

    No hes saying the the code should read .05 for 5%
    and it procs 100% of the time, Samadhi. The other smaller hit your seeing is the initial 200 or so that comes with the spell.
  • ElectricBlue97
    Solanum wrote: »
    Seriously, people are petitioning for this?

    Might I remind you that when they fix it, it'll not be due to a bunch of people raging or petitioning, but simply because they're doing their jobs?

    As a Vampire, I find this nonsense annoying, but seriously, go rally for a cause that is less obvious. Have them balance stamina skills and heavy armor or something.

    To be honest I wanted to close this thread somewhere around the end of the first page. Irritated at having been one shotted several times in a row. I figured the best way to get back at zenimax for the insufficient testing of skills was to stir the disgruntled masses. -which worked-. But I still would prefer to have hit close thread (wherever that button may be) when zeni said they were already looking into it
  • Columba
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    my heart bleeds for the poor, downtrodden vampires. weeks and weeks of vampires exploiting laughably overpowered abilities, yet these twilight kiddies told us to learn to play.

    karma can be nasty. LEARN TO PLAY.
  • DrOrpheus
    DrOrpheus
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    As a vamp who got insta gibbed left and right for about 3k damage every time, I concur. And to anyone telling us to learn to play or anything along those lines, if some class had a skill that was dealing 3k damage over 90% of the time you'd be in the same boat calling for a fix.
  • ElectricBlue97
    Columba wrote: »
    my heart bleeds for the poor, downtrodden vampires. weeks and weeks of vampires exploiting laughably overpowered abilities, yet these twilight kiddies told us to learn to play.

    karma can be nasty. LEARN TO PLAY.

    Its as if people don't realise vampire players are not immune to batswarm. Everyone suffered from that spell except the few vamps who could actually pull it off.
  • Columba
    Columba
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    I don't recall any vamps screaming to fix bat swarm. As I said. Karma.
  • Tintinabula
    Tintinabula
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    I was a vamp who screamed to fix batswarm. I was a victim of that silliness many many times. Ppl seems to ignore the fact we are affected by batswarm too. And while they nerfed and nerfed ZOS never fixed broken mist mechanics and allowed us to be rooted while in mist form.Im sure you all got free vamp kills off mist being broken.
    Edited by Tintinabula on 27 June 2014 18:50
  • Columba
    Columba
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    Black-Bird wrote: »
    They said they are working on it what more do you want? imo the FPS issue and certain skills not working are more important than this.

    It sort of is considering how easy the fix would be versus the number of vampire players in the game. If they want to save their precious money they going to have to fix this. Because I can almost feel legions upon legions of vampire guilds cancling their subs as we speak

    Edit- well not as we speak. there's maintenance going on

    That would be a real shame, lol
  • TomLukman
    TomLukman
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    Well, I guess Meridia found a way to punish all the batswarm abusers :)
  • Piedplat
    Piedplat
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    Subscription is over your game is so broken. 3 days and nothing fixed. I will not paying to be killed by a bugged skil. There no fun in that...
    That is a major issue. Turn off the skill I dont know but do it quick fix that.
    armata.ca
    GuildeQc PvP
  • Piedplat
    Piedplat
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    Columba wrote: »
    my heart bleeds for the poor, downtrodden vampires. weeks and weeks of vampires exploiting laughably overpowered abilities, yet these twilight kiddies told us to learn to play.

    karma can be nasty. LEARN TO PLAY.

    We are not talking about a skill or class change but a bugged skill.

    Learn to play for what? Spaming a bugged skill. yeah right...

    armata.ca
    GuildeQc PvP
  • Piedplat
    Piedplat
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    Columba wrote: »
    I don't recall any vamps screaming to fix bat swarm. As I said. Karma.
    I want a fix on bat swarm and I play vampire. Dont call that move has Karma. Stay Bouddha out of this please...
    armata.ca
    GuildeQc PvP
  • ElectricBlue97
    Columba wrote: »
    I don't recall any vamps screaming to fix bat swarm. As I said. Karma.

    This one is also a vamp who wished for bat swarm to be fixed
  • yelloweyedemon
    yelloweyedemon
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    Columba wrote: »
    I don't recall any vamps screaming to fix bat swarm. As I said. Karma.

    This one is also a vamp who wished for bat swarm to be fixed

    A vampire with Khajiit accent? You are an abomination you wanna-be cat!

    PS: ALL HAIL Meridiamasterrace
  • ElectricBlue97
    Columba wrote: »
    I don't recall any vamps screaming to fix bat swarm. As I said. Karma.

    This one is also a vamp who wished for bat swarm to be fixed

    A vampire with Khajiit accent? You are an abomination you wanna-be cat!

    PS: ALL HAIL Meridiamasterrace

    this one is a vampire khajiit
  • yelloweyedemon
    yelloweyedemon
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    Columba wrote: »
    I don't recall any vamps screaming to fix bat swarm. As I said. Karma.

    This one is also a vamp who wished for bat swarm to be fixed

    A vampire with Khajiit accent? You are an abomination you wanna-be cat!

    PS: ALL HAIL Meridiamasterrace

    this one is a vampire khajiit

    How do your fangs grow if you already have them?
  • Sihnfahl
    Sihnfahl
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    How do your fangs grow if you already have them?
    Khajiit have fangs to crush and strangle.

    Vampire have fangs to pierce.

    Khajiit vampire have fangs that crush AND pierce. Is better way fight.
  • ElectricBlue97
    Columba wrote: »
    I don't recall any vamps screaming to fix bat swarm. As I said. Karma.

    This one is also a vamp who wished for bat swarm to be fixed

    A vampire with Khajiit accent? You are an abomination you wanna-be cat!

    PS: ALL HAIL Meridiamasterrace

    this one is a vampire khajiit

    How do your fangs grow if you already have them?
    Yup lol what that guy said.
    just grows more. like a second row of fangs. like a shark
    a Sharkpire Khajiit
  • yelloweyedemon
    yelloweyedemon
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    Too much lore information.. My mind exploded

    Think I'm gonna go back worshiping Meridia.. Talking with vamps has its toll it seems -.-
    Edited by yelloweyedemon on 27 June 2014 21:30
  • Kajoh_Americano
    Too much lore information.. My mind exploded

    Think I'm gonna go back worshiping Meridia.. Talking with vamps has its toll it seems -.-

    Hello sir, have you heard the good word about our lord and saviour Molag Bal ? :)
  • StihlReign
    StihlReign
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    StihlReign wrote: »
    The insta kills are fair...think how some poor soul feels when a vampire sneaks up on him and feeds, or a werewolf jumps on them and feeds.
    This shows, what a poor sucker you are: NO ABILITY EVER SHOULD BE ABLE TO ONESHOT ANYBODY.

    This is where we differ. You're a Vampire. I have Fighter's Guild. I should be able to one-shot kill you all day. My job is to kill you. You're undead...well until now. Now you're dead.


    And what you did not understand: The discussion is not about being oneshotted, it is about how often Silver Bolts "banish" an enemy. It has at the moment a chance of 50%, not the 5% it should be. Yesterday I did a little statistical analysis. I counted how often I was hit by Silver Bolts or its morphs. I counted 24 hits, 12 of them were those "banish" procs. This is 50% chance. I used Silver Shards (morph of Silver Bolts) 28 times on other vampires with 13 procs, which is 46%.

    I guess somebody messed up the code and deleted accidentally a "0", so the factor .05 (= 5%) became .5 (= 50%).

    No I understand. You're being killed. By Silver Bolts. Often.

    I'm perfectly fine with that as a full member of the Fighter's Guild since level 30 this has been far too long in coming.

    As long as you have access to our skills, we should be able to insta-kill you.

    Vampires and Werewolves have no business in the Fighter's Guild...or walking among or preying on the living. Silver bolts appears to be working just fine.

    Vampires should fear the Guild. As I've made clear many times — No Vampire or Werewolf should have access to the Guilds skill line. It should automatically be greyed out when you choose sides.


    ...love that banish scream in game btw.

    "O divine art of subtlety and secrecy!

    Through you we learn to be invisible, through you inaudible; and hence we can hold the enemy’s fate in our hands.” – Ch. VI, v. 8-9. — Master Sun Tzu

    "You haven't beaten me you've sacrificed sure footing for a killing stroke." — Ra's al Ghul

    He who is prudent and lies in wait for an enemy who is not, will be victorious — Master Sun Tzu

    LoS
  • RedTalon
    RedTalon
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    Haven't runned into many vampires lately now I know why,

    Well sppouse its only fair vampires get the feel the pain some none fighter guild types felt for most of the first month of pvp when spam swarms war was happening.
  • Sihnfahl
    Sihnfahl
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    Hello sir, have you heard the good word about our lord and saviour Molag Bal ? :)
    Blasphemer! All power and glory to the Great Lord Sheogorath!

    Cheese for everyone!
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