NA - Wabbajack

the.dzeneralb16_ESO

You should stop making stories up. We were at drakelow maybe twice and both times there was either no one there, or like random stragglers.

edit: Maybe it was a different group than us that you're thinking of.

Gaettusk

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Gaettusk wrote: »

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Gaettusk wrote: »

Inb4 the AD Aussie zerg guilds ruin Wabba too lol. 70+ AD zerging at 5am /facepalm It's basically PvE at the time period. Dunno why Aussies are so interested in sieging empty keeps.

For all the Aussies playing on NA servers,
http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=52065&d=1179942737

AD almost never gets numbers that big, and if they do I highly doubt it's "aussie zerg guilds". You sure seem upset you can't be on this game 24-7.

You should have been at 5am this morning because AD had those numbers all in one spot. Also, I just don't like Kangaroo Jacks

I work so that's my sleep time. I also don't get too upset with other people choosing the time they play. You should try it.

I'm also failing to understand why anyone would zerg walls with 70+ when there is no defense, doesn't seem like a logical way to use manpower. If it were a scroll counter/zerg I'd understand, otherwise what you're saying doesn't make sense.

If it's PvE, it's not 70
If it's 70+, there is something to attack.
Which is it?

I guess I'm used to companies actually having servers reserved for certain regions; you know the ones who aren't trying to be tight-wads. Oceanic players on NA servers cause problems for everyone. Lag and no competition for them during their primetime. For NA players, it causes PvP campaigns to be horribly imbalanced(especially if they-Oceanic players- stack on one faction and avoid the other faction's Oceanic players).

As for your second point, that's a non-sequitur. The amount of players they have does not have anything to do with which type of gameplay it is. If they want to have 70+ people run around a ghost town Cyro, then they will. It won't stop people scratching their heads and then promptly making fun of them.

Halrloprillalar

Gaettusk wrote: »

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Gaettusk wrote: »

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Gaettusk wrote: »

Inb4 the AD Aussie zerg guilds ruin Wabba too lol. 70+ AD zerging at 5am /facepalm It's basically PvE at the time period. Dunno why Aussies are so interested in sieging empty keeps.

For all the Aussies playing on NA servers,
http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=52065&d=1179942737

AD almost never gets numbers that big, and if they do I highly doubt it's "aussie zerg guilds". You sure seem upset you can't be on this game 24-7.

You should have been at 5am this morning because AD had those numbers all in one spot. Also, I just don't like Kangaroo Jacks

I work so that's my sleep time. I also don't get too upset with other people choosing the time they play. You should try it.

I'm also failing to understand why anyone would zerg walls with 70+ when there is no defense, doesn't seem like a logical way to use manpower. If it were a scroll counter/zerg I'd understand, otherwise what you're saying doesn't make sense.

If it's PvE, it's not 70
If it's 70+, there is something to attack.
Which is it?

I guess I'm used to companies actually having servers reserved for certain regions; you know the ones who aren't trying to be tight-wads. Oceanic players on NA servers cause problems for everyone. Lag and no competition for them during their primetime. For NA players, it causes PvP campaigns to be horribly imbalanced(especially if they-Oceanic players- stack on one faction and avoid the other faction's Oceanic players).

As for your second point, that's a non-sequitur. The amount of players they have does not have anything to do with which type of gameplay it is. If they want to have 70+ people run around a ghost town Cyro, then they will. It won't stop people scratching their heads and then promptly making fun of them.

I don't really think client-server distance causes retroactive lag on the server, correct me if I'm wrong here. Considering that EU servers are actually NA servers called 'EU' I don't think it makes a lick of difference anyway. That's a ZOS problem, not a player problem anyhow. You don't think NA players stack certain factions on certain campaigns? How is that any different? I don't get your vendetta against overseas kids, must be an American thing.

As for the latter point: why the *** would anyone waste their time in such a manner? You think AD for some reason likes to spend lots of time/manpower to get absolutely no reward for no reason at all (I sure as hell don't)? Does EP do this??? Sounds like a made up AD hominem against an entire faction...

Teargrants

Last night around 2-6am PST, NA Wabba, AD wasn't stacking against nothing. They did have a massive zerg blob going, but it was cuz they were taking the 4 scrolls EP had 1 by 1. That said, on EP we were lucky to get 1/3-1/2 their numbers - and all of that was pugs.

Was about 60-70 AD total from what I saw: 2 groups of 20 that formed 2 stacks when they went for the Scroll of Ghartok + some AD pugs w/ each group. 1 group held the gate, and 1 took the scroll. After AD got all 6 scrolls, about half of them stayed outside BRK to farm our pugs.

In EP we had basically 0 organized force until Kage's group came back at 5am. Before that was just one embarrassment after another, but that's what I expect from pugs.

- All the def at Ghartok stayed around the gate to wipe one of the AD groups that was trolling under it, while the other AD group took the scroll south.
- Again, all the def at Ghartok went to atk the AD trolls at Farragut instead of retaking Arrius or defending Kings while AD aimed for the Scroll of Chim.
- When AD ran the scroll south, no one came to cut them off at the bridges.

PUGs FTW!

Would be nice if Oceanic players were evenly distributed between the 3 factions.

the.dzeneralb16_ESO

Kirsika wrote: »

Last night around 2-6am PST, NA Wabba, AD wasn't stacking against nothing. They did have a massive zerg blob going, but it was cuz they were taking the 4 scrolls EP had 1 by 1. That said, on EP we were lucky to get 1/3-1/2 their numbers - and all of that was pugs.

Was about 60-70 AD total from what I saw: 2 groups of 20 that formed 2 stacks when they went for the Scroll of Ghartok + some AD pugs w/ each group. 1 group held the gate, and 1 took the scroll. After AD got all 6 scrolls, about half of them stayed outside BRK to farm our pugs.

In EP we had basically 0 organized force until Kage's group came back at 5am. Before that was just one embarrassment after another, but that's what I expect from pugs.

- All the def at Ghartok stayed around the gate to wipe one of the AD groups that was trolling under it, while the other AD group took the scroll south.
- Again, all the def at Ghartok went to atk the AD trolls at Farragut instead of retaking Arrius or defending Kings while AD aimed for the Scroll of Chim.
- When AD ran the scroll south, no one came to cut them off at the bridges.

PUGs FTW!

Would be nice if Oceanic players were evenly distributed between the 3 factions.

Well we do good work in wabba, but there are other groups that do an amazing job as well.

edit: Our pugs are pretty embarrassing though

Halrloprillalar

the.dzeneralb16_ESO wrote: »

Kirsika wrote: »

Last night around 2-6am PST, NA Wabba, AD wasn't stacking against nothing. They did have a massive zerg blob going, but it was cuz they were taking the 4 scrolls EP had 1 by 1. That said, on EP we were lucky to get 1/3-1/2 their numbers - and all of that was pugs.

Was about 60-70 AD total from what I saw: 2 groups of 20 that formed 2 stacks when they went for the Scroll of Ghartok + some AD pugs w/ each group. 1 group held the gate, and 1 took the scroll. After AD got all 6 scrolls, about half of them stayed outside BRK to farm our pugs.

In EP we had basically 0 organized force until Kage's group came back at 5am. Before that was just one embarrassment after another, but that's what I expect from pugs.

- All the def at Ghartok stayed around the gate to wipe one of the AD groups that was trolling under it, while the other AD group took the scroll south.
- Again, all the def at Ghartok went to atk the AD trolls at Farragut instead of retaking Arrius or defending Kings while AD aimed for the Scroll of Chim.
- When AD ran the scroll south, no one came to cut them off at the bridges.

PUGs FTW!

Would be nice if Oceanic players were evenly distributed between the 3 factions.

Well we do good work in wabba, but there are other groups that do an amazing job as well.

edit: Our pugs are pretty embarrassing though

All PUGs are embarassing.
This wasn't Wabba but last night in a PUG (AD) I literally watched someone try to roll a ram across half the keep towards the gate.

If only I could fraps this moment and all its glory...

Teargrants

Yeah, I know there's a number of other good EP groups, just last night, none were there, or didn't have the numbers as far as I could tell.

Though after AD got all the scrolls, I did enjoy the running battle we had outside of Alessia w/ 5 of our stealthers, until 30 AD ported back to zerg us down.

the.dzeneralb16_ESO

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

the.dzeneralb16_ESO wrote: »

Kirsika wrote: »

Last night around 2-6am PST, NA Wabba, AD wasn't stacking against nothing. They did have a massive zerg blob going, but it was cuz they were taking the 4 scrolls EP had 1 by 1. That said, on EP we were lucky to get 1/3-1/2 their numbers - and all of that was pugs.

Was about 60-70 AD total from what I saw: 2 groups of 20 that formed 2 stacks when they went for the Scroll of Ghartok + some AD pugs w/ each group. 1 group held the gate, and 1 took the scroll. After AD got all 6 scrolls, about half of them stayed outside BRK to farm our pugs.

In EP we had basically 0 organized force until Kage's group came back at 5am. Before that was just one embarrassment after another, but that's what I expect from pugs.

- All the def at Ghartok stayed around the gate to wipe one of the AD groups that was trolling under it, while the other AD group took the scroll south.
- Again, all the def at Ghartok went to atk the AD trolls at Farragut instead of retaking Arrius or defending Kings while AD aimed for the Scroll of Chim.
- When AD ran the scroll south, no one came to cut them off at the bridges.

PUGs FTW!

Would be nice if Oceanic players were evenly distributed between the 3 factions.

Well we do good work in wabba, but there are other groups that do an amazing job as well.

edit: Our pugs are pretty embarrassing though

All PUGs are embarassing.
This wasn't Wabba but last night in a PUG (AD) I literally watched someone try to roll a ram across half the keep towards the gate.

If only I could fraps this moment and all its glory...

Oh I dont doubt your pugs are embarassing I just know that in EP they are, and since I don't play in other factions I didn't want to assume

Pugs are hilarious though

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Just a heads-up, we're investigating the reports of unplayable lag in Wabbajack since yesterday's patch.

Teargrants

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌
Good to hear. The lag in NA Wabba is back to pretty much exactly the same level as before the pop caps were ninja lowered a week ago. Compared to now where it seems that the pop caps have been ninja increased again....and well, 1 + 1 = ?

the.dzeneralb16_ESO

Apparently (from what everyone in my groups are saying) lag happens when you : Invite people in your pvp group who are not in cyro, have people in your group who are offline, and some apparently say its caused by add-ons (I dont believe this one but correct me if Im wrong)

Teargrants

Yes, even 1 offline person in your group will cause everyone to lag until you kick them. But that's always been an issue, nothing new as far as I know.

the.dzeneralb16_ESO

Yeah that post was just in case others didn't know about it and are complaining about lag

Infraction

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Just a heads-up, we're investigating the reports of unplayable lag in Wabbajack since yesterday's patch.

This has been going on for a lot longer than yesterdays patch with very little improvement.

Gaettusk

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

I don't really think client-server distance causes retroactive lag on the server, correct me if I'm wrong here. Considering that EU servers are actually NA servers called 'EU' I don't think it makes a lick of difference anyway. That's a ZOS problem, not a player problem anyhow. You don't think NA players stack certain factions on certain campaigns? How is that any different? I don't get your vendetta against overseas kids, must be an American thing.

As for the latter point: why the *** would anyone waste their time in such a manner? You think AD for some reason likes to spend lots of time/manpower to get absolutely no reward for no reason at all (I sure as hell don't)? Does EP do this??? Sounds like a made up AD hominem against an entire faction...

If you're playing on a NA server from Perth or where ever you're from in Kangaroo land, then you're probably going to have a pretty bad ping. It's akin to lag/high ping EU players playing on NA servers will experience and vice versa. It's disingenous to argue that Oceanic players should not have their own server. We have a EU and NA server. So why not an Oceanic server?

Also, your whole claim about ad hominem is quite the red herring.

Gumbicus

AD have held DC's hand for a long time intentionally just so that EP doesn't win wabba, if people are like me its because EP chickened out of a real fight and went to find an empty server to do PVE keeps on and forced us all to chase them after leaving our empty servers.

There is no way in hell AD can win the campaign even if we cap everything 24/7 for the next 15-16 days so might as well dethrone EP.

EP have already started to chicken off again to Bloodthorn and I'm slowly seeing less EP around, 15 days... cant be bothered chasing them again, bring on the new campaign where they can't run from our organised groups. They'll either quit or get organised.

When we're really smashing people hard, its not 1 premade, its 3-5 working together, if DC and EP had even half of that level of organization instead EP relying on [snip] and [snip]] (May you one day get emp) and DC relying on 2 people who i don't know the name of, you guys would have a lot more fun.

PVP has always benefited the organised, a group of 20 people can quite easily take down 60+ in an open field, and even more on a keep defense.

Moral of this longassed post...
DC, EP, sack up, get your act together, we go looking for fights, not keep capping, we want a fight, bring it to us and we'll bring it back to you, many props to Fixate and Nicole and the 2 unnamed DC leaders who try to do it and any i may have missed, it makes the game fun.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Naming & Shaming]

Gumbicus

Gaettusk wrote: »

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

1/10 not even a mediocre troll, try again.

Not trolling when it's true. Just because you don't like a fact does not make it trolling. Quit trying to troll :P

Also DC kindly told us after TKG farmed them all night on bleakers that they were gonna lock us into Faregyl.
We took the map, every scroll and were asking the zerg to stop capping keeps so we could keep our DK emp instead of swapping to Sorc emp.
Yeah DC are real tough. Put your money where your mouth is.

Gumbicus

Gaettusk wrote: »

Inb4 the AD Aussie zerg guilds ruin Wabba too lol. 70+ AD zerging at 5am /facepalm It's basically PvE at the time period. Dunno why Aussies are so interested in sieging empty keeps.

For all the Aussies playing on NA servers,
http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=52065&d=1179942737

Our group actually got bored and logged off after we had all the scrolls and 4/6 keeps. EP and ragequit after they got gatefarmed by 1 premade while another premade took the scroll. Then DC stopped playing because we had no EP to fight so we went off to kill DC, i think there were 3 or 4 AD premades last night compared to 0 DC and 1 EP... You guys gotta stop zerging cos it is actually getting boring... bring the new campaign...

Gumbicus

Kirsika wrote: »

Would be nice if Oceanic players were evenly distributed between the 3 factions.

TBH aussie pop is about evenly spread between EP and AD... DC are screwed...
Problem is outside of fixate and nicoles group there is 0 organisation. So when they get steamrolled as they did on Ghartok last night, instead of re-strategizing and coming back at us, they all logged off. Last night ended at 9:30pm which is earlier than normal because we had nobody to fight.

I dont want to keep cap, Keep capping is boring, i want to fight. Please some EP people get these pugs organised, they will listen to you if you lead them into a good group. Otherwise this will never change, and AD will win every campaign after server change because when you all go to bed, its just the aussies left and what we've seen so far, AD will cap the map every time until you all get out of bed and finish your morning fap.

I've posted 4 times now WE WANT A FIGHT give us one, you'll see how fun it is. i.e. Fixate started oiling us in the back room anda lot of EP started doing it to us. Instead of qqing and ragequitting we came up with a strat and so far it has worked, but we want a real test which means fixates group or another good premade... so far it has only worked vs pugs imitating fixate or when fixate is running solo or just with Nicole.

Every person i've seen complaining on this threat looks like they're either waiting for a leader, or a part of the zerg. It is UNBELIEVEABLY easy to wipe a zerg, cos you split, you spread out, we pick you off bits at a time, go around, or if you're really bad we'll just crash the middle and watch half of your zerg turn and run, then spend the next 120 seconds with DK's chasing you down chaining you all back for us to get some kills.

PLEASE get organised, or PVP in this game will not last. This is not something Zenimax can fix, in fact by demanding Zenimax to fix it, they will probably nerf *** and then everyone rolls a Paladin or whichever class is OP, and Cyrodil is entirely populated by 1 class. The tools are there for you to fight back. Just need you to stop relying on a few small leaders and get your groups organised, get on teamspeak/raidcall/mumble/vent whatever, have your leader call out, stick with your group, support your group, and have good group function.

A simple example of good group function, bomb group is DK and Sorc doing PBAE, DK's run in spamming talons and probably chains, maybe a little Elemental ring, while sorcs streak through, stunning and doing soem AOE, also landing negates on large groups while DK's put banner in the negate, the healers run Barrier to help keep us all alive.

Stop zerging, you will quit the game, get organised, you will love the game, and we will love you for the fight.

Even losing, a fight can be fun as long as you're not being steamrolled.

Also yes, right now AD holds in its hands the ability to decide who wins Wabbajack, EP or DC. Wonder how this turns out... wonder if we'll choose? Because we know it is impossible for us to win. We also well and truly know, the whole of AD know on wabbajack, your victory is in our hands.

Igolbug

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Just a heads-up, we're investigating the reports of unplayable lag in Wabbajack since yesterday's patch.

Let me know when you fix it so I can actually play again.

Gaettusk

Gumbicus wrote: »

I've posted 4 times now WE WANT A FIGHT give us one

Claims to want a fight, then logs on at 5am with two premades of 70+ to PvP. I lulz'd really hard.

Also, claiming that fixate and Nico are the leaders on EP side shows that all you do is look at the leaderboards. Are you that baddie Xorvak? :P

Gumbicus wrote: »

TBH aussie pop is about evenly spread between EP and AD

AD will win every campaign after server change because when you all go to bed, its just the aussies left

Alright, enough of taking the mickey out of ya. If you want competition on a NA server, then you need to log on during NA primetime hours(around 10am Sydney time). Otherwise, you're going to end up having to PvDoor because few people are online to face primetime numbers and organization from AD Oceanic. It's sad but true, and that type of behavior will only kill late night PvP for everyone. If you think it's low pop late at night now, then just wait and see how empty it will be if the side stacking continues. We've already had a lot of PvPers(all factions) quit the game due to lag/bugs. The last thing we need to do is exacerbate the low population issue by causing anyone to quit.

Anyway,it's sad that ZoS didn't set up an Oceanic server so that campaigns would be populated during Oceanic primetime, but it is what is.

Gumbicus

Gaettusk wrote: »

Also, claiming that fixate and Nico are the leaders on EP side shows that all you do is look at the leaderboards. Are you that baddie Xorvak? :P

They're the ones that i see the most fighting us back, sorry if i don't recognise prime time leaders but you're in bed.

Gaettusk wrote: »

Alright, enough of taking the mickey out of ya. If you want competition on a NA server, then you need to log on during NA primetime hours(around 10am Sydney time).

I would love to, but i have this thing called a job, so instead i can only make that time on weekends and its great when i do, loads of fun, yet it sucks because the most fun PVP is at the moment, is entirely at your time, which means by the time i wake up and login between 11am-1pm, some of you have started to log off, by 4-6pm we really start seeing it, and the weekend crews put up a fun fight, and we don't always win, yet i don't care because its fun.

Just kinda sucks because for a lot of Aussies, there is only about 4 hours of best time a day, and many of us hold jobs. Never mind if you live in Western Australia which means its 8am their time. The earliest i can login on a weekday is 4:30-5pm, by that time there is *some* action to be had but if theres no organised group going then its just a farm for us while we go from area to area nuking back-cappers while the AD zerg wipes on easy keeps or neglects to defend anything except Roe completely... Hell we found a hole in Nickel just after a pug group claimed they defended it...

I'm not coming here as a pro, I am posting what i see and from what i can see, DC and EP need to shape up. Although i wouldn't be surprised if many started rolling AD chars... then i'd have to roll EP or DC just to get a fight... Aussies seem to do that a lot too, instead of shaping up and getting organised they join the winning team... my country can be fail sometimes.

You'll never see me topping leader boards, I'm happy to be in a good group doing my job and working as a team. I don't even check leaderboards except for our own to see which AD guy is next emp. Fixate went out of his way to block us from emp just like we went out of our way to block him, and it was the most fun I've had at Oceanic times ever... last night however was shameful and as i said, we just logged off instead of keep capping.

Gumbicus

Roe is love.
Roe is life.

Gaettusk

Gumbicus wrote: »

Gaettusk wrote: »

Also, claiming that fixate and Nico are the leaders on EP side shows that all you do is look at the leaderboards. Are you that baddie Xorvak? :P

They're the ones that i see the most fighting us back, sorry if i don't recognise prime time leaders but you're in bed.

Gaettusk wrote: »

Alright, enough of taking the mickey out of ya. If you want competition on a NA server, then you need to log on during NA primetime hours(around 10am Sydney time).

I would love to, but i have this thing called a job, so instead i can only make that time on weekends and its great when i do, loads of fun, yet it sucks because the most fun PVP is at the moment, is entirely at your time, which means by the time i wake up and login between 11am-1pm, some of you have started to log off, by 4-6pm we really start seeing it, and the weekend crews put up a fun fight, and we don't always win, yet i don't care because its fun.

Just kinda sucks because for a lot of Aussies, there is only about 4 hours of best time a day, and many of us hold jobs. Never mind if you live in Western Australia which means its 8am their time. The earliest i can login on a weekday is 4:30-5pm, by that time there is *some* action to be had but if theres no organised group going then its just a farm for us while we go from area to area nuking back-cappers while the AD zerg wipes on easy keeps or neglects to defend anything except Roe completely... Hell we found a hole in Nickel just after a pug group claimed they defended it...

I'm not coming here as a pro, I am posting what i see and from what i can see, DC and EP need to shape up. Although i wouldn't be surprised if many started rolling AD chars... then i'd have to roll EP or DC just to get a fight... Aussies seem to do that a lot too, instead of shaping up and getting organised they join the winning team... my country can be fail sometimes.

You'll never see me topping leader boards, I'm happy to be in a good group doing my job and working as a team. I don't even check leaderboards except for our own to see which AD guy is next emp. Fixate went out of his way to block us from emp just like we went out of our way to block him, and it was the most fun I've had at Oceanic times ever... last night however was shameful and as i said, we just logged off instead of keep capping.

No, I completely understand. We don't have much of a presence at your prime time because we have people with irl obligations, too. There has to be some way we can get a decent population in-game at Oceanic prime time. It's a ghost town late night for EP. We have fixate,Nico, myself (I was there to foil AD's attempt to get Xorvak emp also :P) and a few others, but we're not enough to take on 70+ organized people when we have low numbers and are limited by the AoE caps.

Hell, I don't want night capping to ruin the campaigns because we both know that Aussies will get sick of PvDoor; NA players will get sick of not having a chance due to night capping gaining so many points; no one wins if that happens. PvP at that point will be dead. I'm all up for working with AD/DC/ guilds on my own faction to try and get people settled at one spot during late night instead of several campaigns. We can definitely work together to try and get PvP bumping during Oceanic time. What do you think?

Gumbicus

I think that this would be brilliant, right now im tagging along to Clones group but if we get Clone/Tinker and other AD leaders in +whoever the DC ones are theres a real chance to set up some action

Gumbicus

Btw did you see the time they created a guild named 'Stop back cappin fixate' just for drakelow?

Gaettusk

Gumbicus wrote: »

Btw did you see the time they created a guild named 'Stop back cappin fixate' just for drakelow?

Yeah, there was a similar named guild also. EP likes joking around a lot. Anyway, pass the idea along to late-night/early morning AD leaders, and I'll do the same for EP. If @bitaken wants to stop his trolling/joking around for a bit and tell DC leaders also, then we could get the ball rolling for good and populated PvP late-night/early morning.

We just might get the ball rolling to fix campaign numbers during Oceanic prime time. I'll try my best to get people sold on actually PvPing,but the swarm of Oceanic AD really turns off players on my side of the fence; it's one of a few factors why EP barely has anyone online at all during Oceanic prime time. Pugs arent too happy that we just caught up to DC, who had a huge lead on us, just to get 2v1d. The amount of QQ about the alleged AD/DC alliance is getting tedious lol.

Gumbicus

No alliance just people like hitting EP atm we're hitting DC, given how long they got left alone and then cos they were too dumb to go around bleakers decide to rage at us and tell us they're going to lock us in at faregyl they're kind of asking for it... They're so easy to wipe though...

Sile

It doesn't help almost all the RVR Aussie guilds decided to join AD. SC, TKG, TRF, and Elite are AD (These are the better ones). Those 4 guilds are some of the better Aus RvR groups. A few went to the other factions, but tbh there aren't many, I mean after the rivalries in WAR, and then the same side boringness that was SWTOR/Aion/Rift etc, I thought you guys would have chosen different factions.

Gaettusk

Gumbicus wrote: »

No alliance just people like hitting EP atm we're hitting DC, given how long they got left alone and then cos they were too dumb to go around bleakers decide to rage at us and tell us they're going to lock us in at faregyl they're kind of asking for it... They're so easy to wipe though...

Yeah, good luck telling the pugs that on EP side lol. The second they see AD and DC pushing both of our fronts. There's this level 28 who just starts ranting about "AD and DC are colluding. Those bunch of exploiters. They should get banned." Of course, I'm paraphrasing, but it is certainly fun laughing at the guy.

About the DC, most of their good groups (late night/early morning) are rarely ever south of the Aleswell-Chalman line. The only way to get the good groups of DC to come fight is to hit their home keeps. Otherwise, they're busy with EP up North and trying to act like they killed millions,e.g., bitaken lol.