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Reduced the ultimate gain on all critical strikes to 1 from 3.
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I just don't understand why Zenimax implements these nerfs, but doesn't make it public...way to get on your customers bad side.2 -
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✭GrimCyclone wrote: »
Indeed, this change has also helped remove the plague that was dagger dual wielders.1 -
GrimCyclone✭✭✭✭✭GrimCyclone wrote: »
Indeed, this change has also helped remove the plague that was dagger dual wielders.
If you truly believe that you're intolerant. People have the right to wield what they want. Just because you don't like duel daggers, doesn't mean you should enforce sanctions on those who do. What if everyone thought like that? There would be no freedom
Think about what you said.1 -
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✭✭GrimCyclone wrote: »GrimCyclone wrote: »
Indeed, this change has also helped remove the plague that was dagger dual wielders.
If you truly believe that you're intolerant. People have the right to wield what they want. Just because you don't like duel daggers, doesn't mean you should enforce sanctions on those who do. What if everyone thought like that? There would be no freedom
Think about what you said.
He was joking in both posts...1 -
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How very dare you!GrimCyclone wrote: »GrimCyclone wrote: »
Indeed, this change has also helped remove the plague that was dagger dual wielders.
If you truly believe that you're intolerant. People have the right to wield what they want. Just because you don't like duel daggers, doesn't mean you should enforce sanctions on those who do. What if everyone thought like that? There would be no freedom
Think about what you said.
Melee and medium armor at clearly overpowered and must be removed from end game.
The more nerfs that hit them far more than they hit light armor and staves the better!!!!
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Mortosk✭✭✭✭GrimCyclone wrote: »Do you want this game to die? Can someone please explain why they are doing things that clearly *** people off? You guys need to explain why you do things like this. It really pisses me off when you take something down from like 3 to 1 per hit.
Dude... that's like 3,6,9,12,15 to 1,2,3,4,5. WHAT? lol 3 TIMES slower charge?
That's quite a nerf. Jesus guys. Stop before you run everybody away.
They want to be sure no templar ever survives a 3 pack encounter again. They want templar corpses to litter the whole of tamriel. That's why.
Our low cost sweep ultimate could be regularly relied on to substitute our non existent dps from multiple small crits generating ultimate from biting jabs. This would give us a chance at winning some 3 pack encounters. This wasn't fair to the npcs so it needed to be 66.6% (repeating of course) less effective.
Edited to make @Kaloran happy
Edited by Mortosk on 4 June 2014 21:45"Now I stand, the lion before the lambs and they do not fear. They can not fear." --Arthas Menethil (aka, The Lich King)2 -
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How very dare you!GrimCyclone wrote: »GrimCyclone wrote: »
Indeed, this change has also helped remove the plague that was dagger dual wielders.
If you truly believe that you're intolerant. People have the right to wield what they want. Just because you don't like duel daggers, doesn't mean you should enforce sanctions on those who do. What if everyone thought like that? There would be no freedom
Think about what you said.
Melee and medium armor at clearly overpowered and must be removed from end game.
The more nerfs that hit them far more than they hit light armor and staves the better!!!!
Wait there is med armor and daggers in this game?2 -
frwinters_ESO✭✭✭✭ckf12b14_ESO wrote: »It needed to be balanced for sure, but from 3 to 1? That's kind of a massive jump that's going to net ZOS a HUGE amount of community pushback and backlash. I wouldn't be surprised if they either revert the change entirely or buff the generation up to 2 instead of 1 within the next few days. I can see this nerf being exactly like the templar nerf; "oops too hard of a nerf our bad"
Everything they do seems to get backlash so whats the difference? No decision they make will ever make the population as a whole go "wow we all like that". Wont ever happen in a million years.0 -
GrimCyclone✭✭✭✭✭ckf12b14_ESO wrote: »Everything they do seems to get backlash so whats the difference? No decision they make will ever make the population as a whole go "wow we all like that". Wont ever happen in a million years.
The only person who they should worry about pleasing is me.
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SuperJChat✭✭✭its a general nerf, but honestly i think DK's are gonna get hit hardest by this.
Consider their passive that restores health/stam/mag by x amount + 70% ultimate cost. which means if your ultimate is at 1000 when you use it you get 700 additional health/stam/mag on top of what the passive already gives you.
Now DK's take longer to get ultimate, and also probably wont get it built up to 1K before they can use it.
so yeah, DK nerf
(Also its an Ultimate, not just some super strong spell, you shouldn't be able to build it up in under 5-10 minutes if you ask me)0 -
Ragekniv✭✭✭As a Templar with a nerfed Biting Jabs and recent GCD and increased magicka cost, this just further infuriates me.
Biting Jabs Crit chance was at 80% if specced right. Now as a finishing move it's effectiveness is further diminished!Edited by Ragekniv on 2 June 2014 18:213 -
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✭SuperJChat wrote: »its a general nerf, but honestly i think DK's are gonna get hit hardest by this.
Consider their passive that restores health/stam/mag by x amount + 70% ultimate cost. which means if your ultimate is at 1000 when you use it you get 700 additional health/stam/mag on top of what the passive already gives you.
Now DK's take longer to get ultimate, and also probably wont get it built up to 1K before they can use it.
so yeah, DK nerf
(Also its an Ultimate, not just some super strong spell, you shouldn't be able to build it up in under 5-10 minutes if you ask me)
That's not how Battle Roar works.1 -
GrimCyclone✭✭✭✭✭As a Templar with a nerfed Biting Jabs with GCD and increased magicka cost, this just further infuriates me. Crit chance was at 80% if specced right. Now as a finishing move it's effectiveness is further diminished!
Good...! Good...! Let your anger flooow. I can feel it. I can feeeel your anger. It gives you focus! It makes you stronger! You will be a powerful Sith if you continue on this path.
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Mortosk✭✭✭✭taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »I just don't understand why Zenimax implements these nerfs, but doesn't make it public...way to get on your customers bad side.
I've noticed a pattern in that they tend not to pre-announce the massive game changing sledge hammer style nerfs. They like to surprise us. They'll tell you about their plans to fix vibrating ponies in advance. But the 66.6% (repeating of course) across the board game changing cut to ultimate from crit generation, surprise!!!
Edited to make @Kaloran happy Edited by Mortosk on 4 June 2014 21:45"Now I stand, the lion before the lambs and they do not fear. They can not fear." --Arthas Menethil (aka, The Lich King)3 -
ckf12b14_ESO✭✭✭frwinters_ESO wrote: »ckf12b14_ESO wrote: »It needed to be balanced for sure, but from 3 to 1? That's kind of a massive jump that's going to net ZOS a HUGE amount of community pushback and backlash. I wouldn't be surprised if they either revert the change entirely or buff the generation up to 2 instead of 1 within the next few days. I can see this nerf being exactly like the templar nerf; "oops too hard of a nerf our bad"
Everything they do seems to get backlash so whats the difference? No decision they make will ever make the population as a whole go "wow we all like that". Wont ever happen in a million years.
But there are varying levels of backlash. It's true, you can't please everyone, and they shouldn't try too. But they should please the majority, and they've very much ticked off the majority with this massive ult generation nerf.2 -
Ragekniv✭✭✭GrimCyclone wrote: »ckf12b14_ESO wrote: »Everything they do seems to get backlash so whats the difference? No decision they make will ever make the population as a whole go "wow we all like that". Wont ever happen in a million years.
The only person who they should worry about pleasing is me.
Gotta be a DK!
Enjoy the nerfs!
OP Sorcs and DKs, your time has come!0 -
GreasedLizard✭✭✭stevenpotter321b14_ESO wrote: »Just another nerf to single target skills. AoE for life yo.
Should have fixed AoE generation, but single target gets shafted by proxy.
They need a new risk mgmt lead or something. try balancing crap and not break one thing for another
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Thechemicals✭✭✭✭✭As a templar...no big deal.Vr14 Templar since release- dual resto
Vr14 Dk bow/2h
Brayan Blackthunder
Goddick
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LariahHunding✭✭✭✭taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »I just don't understand why Zenimax implements these nerfs, but doesn't make it public...way to get on your customers bad side.
I've noticed a pattern in that they tend not to pre-announce the massive game changing sledge hammer style nerfs. They like to surprise us. They'll tell you about their plans to fix vibrating ponies in advance. But the 300% across the board game changing cut to ultimate from crit generation, surprise!!!
My wife wants a vibrating pony now. Thanks for the comment
"Give a man a sweet roll, he only has one to steal. Give him a sweet roll recipe, he have bunches to steal."
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SuperJChat✭✭✭Maverick827 wrote: »SuperJChat wrote: »its a general nerf, but honestly i think DK's are gonna get hit hardest by this.
Consider their passive that restores health/stam/mag by x amount + 70% ultimate cost. which means if your ultimate is at 1000 when you use it you get 700 additional health/stam/mag on top of what the passive already gives you.
Now DK's take longer to get ultimate, and also probably wont get it built up to 1K before they can use it.
so yeah, DK nerf
(Also its an Ultimate, not just some super strong spell, you shouldn't be able to build it up in under 5-10 minutes if you ask me)
That's not how Battle Roar works.
yes it is?
lol read up on it0 -
Kayira✭✭✭✭taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »I just don't understand why Zenimax implements these nerfs, but doesn't make it public...way to get on your customers bad side.
I've noticed a pattern in that they tend not to pre-announce the massive game changing sledge hammer style nerfs. They like to surprise us. They'll tell you about their plans to fix vibrating ponies in advance. But the 300% across the board game changing cut to ultimate from crit generation, surprise!!!
I am pretty sure they already mentioned that in the patch 1.1.3 preview a few days ago so the changes came hardly as a surprise for us.
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gougefub17_ESO wrote: »taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »I just don't understand why Zenimax implements these nerfs, but doesn't make it public...way to get on your customers bad side.
I've noticed a pattern in that they tend not to pre-announce the massive game changing sledge hammer style nerfs. They like to surprise us. They'll tell you about their plans to fix vibrating ponies in advance. But the 300% across the board game changing cut to ultimate from crit generation, surprise!!!
My wife wants a vibrating pony now. Thanks for the comment
They make those I believe, just have to go to a specialty shop.6 -
Jaxom✭✭✭✭taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »I just don't understand why Zenimax implements these nerfs, but doesn't make it public...way to get on your customers bad side.
I've noticed a pattern in that they tend not to pre-announce the massive game changing sledge hammer style nerfs. They like to surprise us. They'll tell you about their plans to fix vibrating ponies in advance. But the 300% across the board game changing cut to ultimate from crit generation, surprise!!!
I am pretty sure they already mentioned that in the patch 1.1.3 preview a few days ago so the changes came hardly as a surprise for us.
They mentioned some of this but not the big changes. Check out the preview notes for yourself. Nothing about Crit or DK in there. Even the Vampire changes aren't in there.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/105348/patch-v-1-1-3-preview/p1
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NerfEverything✭✭✭✭✭Thechemicals wrote: »As a templar...no big deal.
Yup, couldn't care less. Our ultimates do nothing so this doesn't affect us...unless you are a melee templar...oh wait there are none, they all unsubbed already.3 -
Mortosk✭✭✭✭taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »I just don't understand why Zenimax implements these nerfs, but doesn't make it public...way to get on your customers bad side.
I've noticed a pattern in that they tend not to pre-announce the massive game changing sledge hammer style nerfs. They like to surprise us. They'll tell you about their plans to fix vibrating ponies in advance. But the 300% across the board game changing cut to ultimate from crit generation, surprise!!!
I am pretty sure they already mentioned that in the patch 1.1.3 preview a few days ago so the changes came hardly as a surprise for us.
Nope! Not a peep! They did mention they'd fix the disappearing lore books issue related to using certain way shrines though. Must've just let the whole crit thing slip their mind.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/105348/patch-v-1-1-3-preview
"Now I stand, the lion before the lambs and they do not fear. They can not fear." --Arthas Menethil (aka, The Lich King)1 -
GrimCyclone✭✭✭✭✭NerfEverything wrote: »Yup, couldn't care less. Our ultimates do nothing so this doesn't affect us...unless you are a melee templar...oh wait there are none, they all unsubbed already.
Owned.
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gard✭✭✭✭✭LOL they lowered the duration of Molten armor too. WTF was that for? It was 20 seconds to start with!1