Have you completed Veteran Maelstrom Arena? (Anniversary Edition)

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · November 2016

Vaoh wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

LegendaryArcher wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

LegendaryArcher wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

LegendaryArcher wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

****Every run = 2x rewards during the event!!! Get your Maelstrom Weapons!!![/b]

Really? Why giving people false hope? 2x the cancer it is now doesn't make it better in the slightest.

People run it 300, 400, 500+ times and don't get a single usable weapon. If you want that one weapon in Sharpened, you're looking at 1000+ runs. All this event is doing is turning 1000+ into 500+. And no one will run it 500 times in 2 weeks. And even then you're likely to not get that one weapon you want.

So the solution is to never run vMA at all?

This isn't false hope. Double rewards during an event is not false hope. We have a fantastic opportunity here where our chances of getting what we want have literally been doubled.

They are still low ofc, but doubled nonetheless. And people who say they ran vMA 1000 times are lying to you. Did you know I killed Molag Kena 4,275 times exactly and still no Light armor helms dropped for me? (-_-) *hint hint

Instead of being that doom & gloom guy that everyone steers clear from to avoid getting depressed, maybe you could focus on hekping people who struggle to beat vMA get through it during a time where they can potentially fit in 15 runs and earn the rewards of 30 runs.

We have a guild in Black Desert with over 30 players that quit ESO solely because of not getting their vMA weapons after hundreds of runs (almost 50 ex-ESO players overall that quit for various reasons). Some of them didn't get a single Inferno after 1000+ runs....Overall, I know 7 people that didn't get their Inferno after 1000+ runs, but the other 3 didn't want to come with us to BDO....

....And if you're still skeptical, maybe @Sharmony can tell you about @Decado from his guild, who's still farming for a Sharpened Inferno Staff and is well beyond 1000 runs by now.

Omg..... it makes me want to cry how gullible you are

For the sake of laying things out for you, I'll do the the honors of providing the numbers:

- Orsinium launched November 2, 2015.
- Black Desert online launched March 3, 2016
- Today is November 4, 2016..... so we are talking exactly 368 days since release of Orsinium and 246 days since the release of BDO but only if we are counting up until present day, which we are not even close to according to your examples.
- There was a timespan of 123 days between the launch of Orsinium and Black Desert Online

- 1000 Maelstrom runs means a minimum of 2.72 Maelstrom runs every single day since vMA released. This is assuming we are using 1000 vMA runs for everyone rather than your even more fake "well beyond 1000+" runs statements.
- The people who quit due to vMA did not take 368 days to do it
- Between Orisinium and Black Desert online, it would've taken over 8 runs every single day to reach the numbers you are using. No breaks, no vacations, no school/work, no hanging out outside of ESO, no normal food/sleep schedule, no other content besides vMA, no getting sick or being forced away from ESO under uncontrollable circumstance, no getting tired, nothing - 4 months and 2 days of pure vMA

All in all, there is perhaps maybe a fewl people in all of ESO to break the 1000 vMA run mark, but nothing like you say, and you've been lied to and are choosing to spread these laughably blatant lies.

I'm sorry, but it is simply too difficult to have logical conversations with this type of exaggeration being taken as fact. No one is running vMA this many times. The people who said they were are lying to you and are not even hiding it, and to say you know numerous people to have done it is nonsense. I hope you learn from this post and stop being so easy to lie to

It's (insert insult here) casuals like you who got their stuff spoon-fed to them who make this game bad. Making ridiculous assumptions and insulting other players who invested a lot of lifetime in this game.

- BDO launch has nothing to do with this topic. Zero. When it launched, it was bad. Very bad. There wasn't even a bad luck protection yet, so, due to the extremely low drop chances, it was even worse than ESO. I started playing it in June (on and off, sometimes coming back to ESO for vMA; I had my last 99 runs when they implemented the 100% drop chance), while I started actively promoting BDO in ESO somewhere in the end of August and moved part of my ESO guild there in September (yes, people were still running vMA at that point).

- If you're part of the end game community, you will see that true vMA fans that are competing for the leaderboard are still running it at least 3+ times a day on different classes just for practice/tactics refinement.

- When I came back after 100% drop chance and ran vMA, 5 runs were taking me slightly more than 3 hours (like 3:10 to 3:15).

- You seem to be very communicative on the forums. However, I doubt you are in game. Are you even part of the end game community? How can you not know people that ran it 1000+ times? And by knowing I mean actually seeing it on a daily basis, discussing it with them, offering them daily runs to take a break?

- There are different kinds of competitive players. But what they all, including myself, have in common, is the desire to be the best. And if it means running vMA till your hands bleed, so be it. It might shock you, but there are many end-game players that don't work. Not so many on the casual front though. Some have worked a lot in a shorter timespan and have earned enough money to sustain themselves and their families without working. Those people are just taking a break from "work", following their hobbies (like gaming) and waiting for an interesting project to come up. Others come from rich families and never plan to work. I know one in ESO (but who would out oneself like that to "workers"?... when that girl did, she received lots of passive hate). Others don't work because they're sick. Actually, a big portion of players that don't work are gaming all day due to a sickness (mostly cancer, autoimmune diseases, disabled after an accident, etc.). I knew at least 10 in ESO. And, of course, those without work - in a country where they can afford it *cough* Germany *cough* Hartz 4 *cough*. They have more money than they need, an apartment, a computer, internet, and even get an additional "Alcohol Allowance" in case they're alcoholics, because hey, Alcohol is a disease, right? I met only few of them in ESO, but LOTS in other online games. Many of them are also very smart and, while taking the money from the state, additionally make a fortune with gold selling in games. I know one of the most successful gold sellers in ESO is one of those (unemployed "Hartz 4-Empfänger" in Germany).

- Fun fact: I don't get sick much, max. once a year, but when I got sick, I was running vMA all day.

***Sorry, @Vaoh, but you are just an ignorant casual (and I don't mean casual as an insult, most players are, especially in ESO) who has probably gotten all vMA weapon he needs before DB***, and have never been part of the true end game community (which is much bigger on EU than on NA, but still... at least you would know Streak on NA, and if you did, you'd know that he's gotten his very first Sharpened Inferno somewhere around 1800 runs; and yes, he actually ran it 2000+ times; probably running it right now as we speak, don't ask me why, I will never understand some people).

This post was beautiful! I'm glad you wrote it. Legit laughed especially when I saw a couple of the more insane statements in here. I'll be bookmarking

So to be part of the endgame community I have to not only discuss vMA daily with the tops on the leaderboard, but also run vMA like 3 times a day and run it for other people super often so they can take breaks?

And now you say we have people who have run vMA 2000+ times with the only reasoning being that you feel that's true despite the facts - 2000+ runs entails 5.4+ runs every day since vMA released up until today

As for your following me around on the Forums and mentioning how I comment a lot as justification for being a casual.... well where's the relation? Also apparently I have all of their vMA weapons cause I'm casual.....

1) Casuals don't get all of their vMA weapons. That's not even casual content.

2) In one of my recent posts (which you've apparently followed) I already claimed to run vMA around 150-200 times. I almost have all my weapons, but still don't.

***3) Your largest point is that I am an ignorant casual ruining ESO. You called me a casual many times in your post as well.

Here's a video to show you just how casual and too-nooby-for-endgame I am. Totally gonna get Vet White Gold nerfed with how nooby I am :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wd0LjJ7jjUs

If this is the definition of noob then I wanna be a noob

Exactly lol.

Apparently soloing Vet White Gold Tower, running Vet trials, running high-end PvP with the best, completing vMA Flawless and with scores over 560K, almost soloing Vet Cradle of Shadows HM and so much more is all casual. Same category as running fetch quests in Glenumbra

What is hardcore suppossed to be???

Hardcore is completing vMA in under 10 minutes naked.

Masel · November 2016

code65536 wrote: »

Masel92 wrote: »

(and the fact that I get too nervous when I reach the last stage without dying)

LOL, yea, I know that feeling. I don't actively try for Flawless; I run only once a week with an "I'll get it when I get it" attitude, but I have had a lot of single-death runs, with the closest attempt being one where I died right as I picked up the third ghost in the final phase of the final boss. Despite trying my hardest to calm down and not think about that damn achievement, my nerves got to me, and my hands were literally shaking and I had difficulty pressing that synergy button...

That is exactly how I feel. Going in there without ambition, getting exponentially nervous over time and dying on stage 7 or 9 (I once got killed by the last ogrim because I forgot to shield). Besides, I got the weapon I wanted the most on the first run (sharpened lightning) and now I leftclick my way through. Four sharpened weapons in the first four tries, I can't complain. Only trash since then though...

Vaoh · November 2016

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

LegendaryArcher wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

LegendaryArcher wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

LegendaryArcher wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

****Every run = 2x rewards during the event!!! Get your Maelstrom Weapons!!![/b]

Really? Why giving people false hope? 2x the cancer it is now doesn't make it better in the slightest.

People run it 300, 400, 500+ times and don't get a single usable weapon. If you want that one weapon in Sharpened, you're looking at 1000+ runs. All this event is doing is turning 1000+ into 500+. And no one will run it 500 times in 2 weeks. And even then you're likely to not get that one weapon you want.

So the solution is to never run vMA at all?

This isn't false hope. Double rewards during an event is not false hope. We have a fantastic opportunity here where our chances of getting what we want have literally been doubled.

They are still low ofc, but doubled nonetheless. And people who say they ran vMA 1000 times are lying to you. Did you know I killed Molag Kena 4,275 times exactly and still no Light armor helms dropped for me? (-_-) *hint hint

Instead of being that doom & gloom guy that everyone steers clear from to avoid getting depressed, maybe you could focus on hekping people who struggle to beat vMA get through it during a time where they can potentially fit in 15 runs and earn the rewards of 30 runs.

We have a guild in Black Desert with over 30 players that quit ESO solely because of not getting their vMA weapons after hundreds of runs (almost 50 ex-ESO players overall that quit for various reasons). Some of them didn't get a single Inferno after 1000+ runs....Overall, I know 7 people that didn't get their Inferno after 1000+ runs, but the other 3 didn't want to come with us to BDO....

....And if you're still skeptical, maybe @Sharmony can tell you about @Decado from his guild, who's still farming for a Sharpened Inferno Staff and is well beyond 1000 runs by now.

Omg..... it makes me want to cry how gullible you are

For the sake of laying things out for you, I'll do the the honors of providing the numbers:

- Orsinium launched November 2, 2015.
- Black Desert online launched March 3, 2016
- Today is November 4, 2016..... so we are talking exactly 368 days since release of Orsinium and 246 days since the release of BDO but only if we are counting up until present day, which we are not even close to according to your examples.
- There was a timespan of 123 days between the launch of Orsinium and Black Desert Online

- 1000 Maelstrom runs means a minimum of 2.72 Maelstrom runs every single day since vMA released. This is assuming we are using 1000 vMA runs for everyone rather than your even more fake "well beyond 1000+" runs statements.
- The people who quit due to vMA did not take 368 days to do it
- Between Orisinium and Black Desert online, it would've taken over 8 runs every single day to reach the numbers you are using. No breaks, no vacations, no school/work, no hanging out outside of ESO, no normal food/sleep schedule, no other content besides vMA, no getting sick or being forced away from ESO under uncontrollable circumstance, no getting tired, nothing - 4 months and 2 days of pure vMA

All in all, there is perhaps maybe a fewl people in all of ESO to break the 1000 vMA run mark, but nothing like you say, and you've been lied to and are choosing to spread these laughably blatant lies.

I'm sorry, but it is simply too difficult to have logical conversations with this type of exaggeration being taken as fact. No one is running vMA this many times. The people who said they were are lying to you and are not even hiding it, and to say you know numerous people to have done it is nonsense. I hope you learn from this post and stop being so easy to lie to

It's (insert insult here) casuals like you who got their stuff spoon-fed to them who make this game bad. Making ridiculous assumptions and insulting other players who invested a lot of lifetime in this game.

- BDO launch has nothing to do with this topic. Zero. When it launched, it was bad. Very bad. There wasn't even a bad luck protection yet, so, due to the extremely low drop chances, it was even worse than ESO. I started playing it in June (on and off, sometimes coming back to ESO for vMA; I had my last 99 runs when they implemented the 100% drop chance), while I started actively promoting BDO in ESO somewhere in the end of August and moved part of my ESO guild there in September (yes, people were still running vMA at that point).

- If you're part of the end game community, you will see that true vMA fans that are competing for the leaderboard are still running it at least 3+ times a day on different classes just for practice/tactics refinement.

- When I came back after 100% drop chance and ran vMA, 5 runs were taking me slightly more than 3 hours (like 3:10 to 3:15).

- You seem to be very communicative on the forums. However, I doubt you are in game. Are you even part of the end game community? How can you not know people that ran it 1000+ times? And by knowing I mean actually seeing it on a daily basis, discussing it with them, offering them daily runs to take a break?

- There are different kinds of competitive players. But what they all, including myself, have in common, is the desire to be the best. And if it means running vMA till your hands bleed, so be it. It might shock you, but there are many end-game players that don't work. Not so many on the casual front though. Some have worked a lot in a shorter timespan and have earned enough money to sustain themselves and their families without working. Those people are just taking a break from "work", following their hobbies (like gaming) and waiting for an interesting project to come up. Others come from rich families and never plan to work. I know one in ESO (but who would out oneself like that to "workers"?... when that girl did, she received lots of passive hate). Others don't work because they're sick. Actually, a big portion of players that don't work are gaming all day due to a sickness (mostly cancer, autoimmune diseases, disabled after an accident, etc.). I knew at least 10 in ESO. And, of course, those without work - in a country where they can afford it *cough* Germany *cough* Hartz 4 *cough*. They have more money than they need, an apartment, a computer, internet, and even get an additional "Alcohol Allowance" in case they're alcoholics, because hey, Alcohol is a disease, right? I met only few of them in ESO, but LOTS in other online games. Many of them are also very smart and, while taking the money from the state, additionally make a fortune with gold selling in games. I know one of the most successful gold sellers in ESO is one of those (unemployed "Hartz 4-Empfänger" in Germany).

- Fun fact: I don't get sick much, max. once a year, but when I got sick, I was running vMA all day.

***Sorry, @Vaoh, but you are just an ignorant casual (and I don't mean casual as an insult, most players are, especially in ESO) who has probably gotten all vMA weapon he needs before DB***, and have never been part of the true end game community (which is much bigger on EU than on NA, but still... at least you would know Streak on NA, and if you did, you'd know that he's gotten his very first Sharpened Inferno somewhere around 1800 runs; and yes, he actually ran it 2000+ times; probably running it right now as we speak, don't ask me why, I will never understand some people).

This post was beautiful! I'm glad you wrote it. Legit laughed especially when I saw a couple of the more insane statements in here. I'll be bookmarking

So to be part of the endgame community I have to not only discuss vMA daily with the tops on the leaderboard, but also run vMA like 3 times a day and run it for other people super often so they can take breaks?

And now you say we have people who have run vMA 2000+ times with the only reasoning being that you feel that's true despite the facts - 2000+ runs entails 5.4+ runs every day since vMA released up until today

As for your following me around on the Forums and mentioning how I comment a lot as justification for being a casual.... well where's the relation? Also apparently I have all of their vMA weapons cause I'm casual.....

1) Casuals don't get all of their vMA weapons. That's not even casual content.

2) In one of my recent posts (which you've apparently followed) I already claimed to run vMA around 150-200 times. I almost have all my weapons, but still don't.

***3) Your largest point is that I am an ignorant casual ruining ESO. You called me a casual many times in your post as well.

Here's a video to show you just how casual and too-nooby-for-endgame I am. Totally gonna get Vet White Gold nerfed with how nooby I am :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wd0LjJ7jjUs

If this is the definition of noob then I wanna be a noob

Exactly lol.

Apparently soloing Vet White Gold Tower, running Vet trials, running high-end PvP with the best, completing vMA Flawless and with scores over 560K, almost soloing Vet Cradle of Shadows HM and so much more is all casual. Same category as running fetch quests in Glenumbra

What is hardcore suppossed to be???

I suppose one day, when you aren't busy being such a filthy casual, you'll find out . Of course, you'll have to switch to PC too. And run vMA at least 8 times a day...everyday.

Yep

clv · November 2016

Power creep has hit vMA hard. You can skip many mechanics or ignore them even as a first-timer. The burn strats are open to everyone now.

Kolache · November 2016

Completed VMA; have mixed feelings about it. Mostly I'm very impressed that they can make solo content that challenging in such interesting ways. That being said, it did seem a little annoying that success (for me at least) depended just as much on lowering survivability/increasing DPS as it did learning the fights.

I can appreciate the necessity of such mechanics seeing as how without them a beefy tank could 1vX the entire arena given enough time. That doesn't mean that I personally wouldn't strive to "improve" the arena by making it more about the ballet and less about the math. Easier said than done I'm sure, but I would prefer to see some less DPS-oriented specs succeed in their own way without making it significantly harder on yourself.

Just my $.02

Bobby_V_Rockit · November 2016

How do you run it for someone else? I have no RL friends who even play ESO to begin with, let alone somewhere I could take my PS4 to for it.

Dubhliam · November 2016

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

How do you run it for someone else? I have no RL friends who even play ESO to begin with, let alone somewhere I could take my PS4 to for it.

Account sharing is prohibited.

Even Sypher, one of the most popular streamer was "permabanned" for account sharing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJwyzQXJIsw

Besides, I said it many times before.
You won't become a better player by owning a vMA weapon.
You will become a better player by defeating vMA.
Weapons are a bonus for people that have the tenacity to farm it every week.

Panda_iMunch · November 2016

Just finished doing Flawless on my Sorc earlier today on stream, pretty intense stuff

Gave me a headache too now that i think about it

Jaronking · November 2016

code65536 wrote: »

Masel92 wrote: »

(and the fact that I get too nervous when I reach the last stage without dying)

LOL, yea, I know that feeling. I don't actively try for Flawless; I run only once a week with an "I'll get it when I get it" attitude, but I have had a lot of single-death runs, with the closest attempt being one where I died right as I picked up the third ghost in the final phase of the final boss. Despite trying my hardest to calm down and not think about that damn achievement, my nerves got to me, and my hands were literally shaking and I had difficulty pressing that synergy button...

I almost had my first attempt on n getting flawless on my first character to clear it.At first I never cared about it and just did it for completes not times just get it done.So I did fine took it slow and steady.Got.to.round 8 finally boss and with full steam could not.interrupt the flame shaper add even with full stam on my stamblade it was ridiculous I almost cried.Than finished stage 9 with no death.

Jaronking · November 2016

Dubhliam wrote: »

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

How do you run it for someone else? I have no RL friends who even play ESO to begin with, let alone somewhere I could take my PS4 to for it.

Account sharing is prohibited.

Even Sypher, one of the most popular streamer was "permabanned" for account sharing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJwyzQXJIsw

Besides, I said it many times before.
You won't become a better player by owning a vMA weapon.
You will become a better player by defeating vMA.
Weapons are a bonus for people that have the tenacity to farm it every week.

He wasn't perma banned he was unbanned under a hour.Am just saying if someone offered me 590 bucks to do VMA for them a few times I know a few ppl who would do it.

Lukums1 · November 2016

Oh boy some serious money would be made, I know people willing to drop a few hundred dollars on getting someone to run them through for any weapon LOL. Crazy stuff.

I get account sharing is a no no. But what about share play though LOL technically you're just shadowing a copy on their PS4.

I think that's over the line in the sand though!

Lukums1 · November 2016

Jaronking wrote: »

Dubhliam wrote: »

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

How do you run it for someone else? I have no RL friends who even play ESO to begin with, let alone somewhere I could take my PS4 to for it.

Account sharing is prohibited.

Even Sypher, one of the most popular streamer was "permabanned" for account sharing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJwyzQXJIsw

Besides, I said it many times before.
You won't become a better player by owning a vMA weapon.
You will become a better player by defeating vMA.
Weapons are a bonus for people that have the tenacity to farm it every week.

He wasn't perma banned he was unbanned under a hour.Am just saying if someone offered me 590 bucks to do VMA for them a few times I know a few ppl who would do it.

Oh good, I like this video.

It basically saids account sharing isn't a bannable offense.

He admits to account sharing, and got banned then unbanned.

So if ESO really cared they would of left all these guys perma banned.

Which means if you ever got slapped with this kind of banning. Do you copy paste the link in your rebuttle?

LOL.

code65536 · November 2016

Kolache wrote: »

I would prefer to see some less DPS-oriented specs succeed in their own way without making it significantly harder on yourself.

It's certainly possible. One of the most impressive vMA videos that I had seen was a magdk in heavy armor and double-barred sword-and-shield doing vMA. I had linked it earlier in the thread, but I'll relink it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-cf2Erf5GY

It's slow-going, and you can see how long it takes him to kill something that I would normally kill in just a couple of hits. But the fact that someone would even try that--and then succeed--is, IMHO, more impressive than the many videos of people going the traditional route and burning through everything in record time.

It does show that vMA is possible with a wide variety of strategies/builds, though some strategies are faster and more straightforward than others. (I personally wouldn't do vMA that way because I don't want to be stuck in there that long!)

Jaronking · November 2016

Lukums1 wrote: »

Oh boy some serious money would be made, I know people willing to drop a few hundred dollars on getting someone to run them through for any weapon LOL. Crazy stuff.

I get account sharing is a no no. But what about share play though LOL technically you're just shadowing a copy on their PS4.

I think that's over the line in the sand though!

Man I wished I did that be a worth a few hours banned lol.Am not sure about share play Zos would have to say that

Bobby_V_Rockit · November 2016

Dubhliam wrote: »

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

How do you run it for someone else? I have no RL friends who even play ESO to begin with, let alone somewhere I could take my PS4 to for it.

Account sharing is prohibited.

Even Sypher, one of the most popular streamer was "permabanned" for account sharing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJwyzQXJIsw

Besides, I said it many times before.
You won't become a better player by owning a vMA weapon.
You will become a better player by defeating vMA.
Weapons are a bonus for people that have the tenacity to farm it every week.

Dang.

Decado · November 2016

So I got tagged in this about the amount of times I've ran maelstrom and never gotten the staff, so I decided to comment,

I honestly have no idea how many times I've completed maelstrom, people say 1000+ and to be honest it's completely possible (and probable) I have done, I have no way of knowing however I can say for certain a few things:

I first completed vMA very quickly after it was released and had it on 'farm' really quickly giving me close to a year of running this instance

For over 6 months now my runs were about an hour long (shorter nowadays)

There was about a month and a half where I ran the arena 4 times a day as a minimum sometimes more when I was really pushing for my weapon

I have every other weapon in sharpened numerous times however the only destro staffs EVER to drop for me are:
Defending fire
Nirnhoned fire
Nirnhoned ice

That is it the only destruction staffs I have dropped in a year of doing that content my most common dropped weapon is restoration staff, before I started deconstructing all my crap I had over 50 sharpened resto staffs

So IMO the RNG in that arena is a disgrace no one should run content for a year and never drop what they wanted I realise this is probably an extreme case but it still goes to show it can happen

I got so bored of the arena I did it in on different chars to try and make it more interesting so I've completed it on all classes including on my tank and healer, I can say with 100% certainty that I HATE the maelstrom arena it's disgusting,

I saw someone mention our old WGT farm to get sharmony his SPC and it's true that grind was insane but atleast in that grind there were 4 of us, friends running it and having a laugh, messing around and generally trying random things that made it more bearable (some even made it onto his YouTube) this is an MMO I want to play with my friends I don't want to spend hours and hours alone in some *** solo arena if I wanted to play a solo game I would go play fallout

Rant over

Smashington357 · November 2016

I dislike the content but to each his own. My reasoning is that I prefer the trinity and to play my role and not attempt all three at once. If they make equivalent weapons that drop from trials eventually though i would be fine with that. I've seen the masters weapons and i would prefer the buff to effect straight weapon and spell dmg as opposed to magika and stamina. Not a huge request i bet they work it in one day either way.

TX12001rwb17_ESO · November 2016

I don't even have the DLC.

probablyafk · November 2016

I wanted to start this ... went out to Wrothgar, started looking at videos for strategies. And realised it takes a long time to complete. I don't necessarily mind spending an hour in a single player instance but to not be able to leave my seat for that time is kinda difficult. Have a young baby and a busy job so time is hard to come by. And that's not including the time to learn it by wrote.

Honestly, I kinda don't want to do the same thing over and over and over - with the RNG factor here not only do I have to learn this thing, then there's hour long runs repeatably to not have an end goal in mind.

Not really the end game experience I'm after.

SublimeSparo · November 2016

Yep there's definitely no hardcore gamers on console, we're all filthy casuals.
I mean that Fredee guy on ps4 EU top of all vMA class leaderboards with petty 590k+ scores on each is such a casual, i mean he doesn't even use buff timers/trackers and addons, What a casual.

Get the *** out of here with the pc master race ***, you're version of the game runs better than ours and you have addons on top of that, yet consolers acheive the same results.

Dubhliam · November 2016

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Yep there's definitely no hardcore gamers on console, we're all filthy casuals.
I mean that Fredee guy on ps4 EU top of all vMA class leaderboards with petty 590k+ scores on each is such a casual, i mean he doesn't even use buff timers/trackers and addons, What a casual.

Get the *** out of here with the pc master race ***, you're version of the game runs better than ours and you have addons on top of that, yet consolers acheive the same results.

Just to be clear, you are hating on @LegendaryArcher here, not PC players in general, right?

Because not all PC players are such jerks.

SublimeSparo · November 2016

Dubhliam wrote: »

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Yep there's definitely no hardcore gamers on console, we're all filthy casuals.
I mean that Fredee guy on ps4 EU top of all vMA class leaderboards with petty 590k+ scores on each is such a casual, i mean he doesn't even use buff timers/trackers and addons, What a casual.

Get the *** out of here with the pc master race ***, you're version of the game runs better than ours and you have addons on top of that, yet consolers acheive the same results.

Just to be clear, you are hating on @LegendaryArcher here, not PC players in general, right?

Because not all PC players are such jerks.

Yes, that would be correct

Asardes · November 2016

I will try it in a couple of months since it's not really a priority for me ATM. Maturing my other 3 main characters, getting the new/updated dungeon gear and finishing research on my main are much more important now. My magicka sorcerer and magicka templar look the most promising for the kind of environment there since they have both high sustain and damage. My stamina DK still doesn't have 2W specced, but I will spec it as soon as I recoup the points from research and bring him there too while my stamina NB is not yet mature enough either. As others have cleared the arena I have no doubt I will do it myself at some point, even if it takes effort. I'm not the kind that gives up easily.

SublimeSparo · November 2016

Asardes wrote: »

I will try it in a couple of months since it's not really a priority for me ATM. Maturing my other 3 main characters, getting the new/updated dungeon gear and finishing research on my main are much more important now. My magicka sorcerer and magicka templar look the most promising for the kind of environment there since they have both high sustain and damage. My stamina DK still doesn't have 2W specced, but I will spec it as soon as I recoup the points from research and bring him there too while my stamina NB is not yet mature enough either. As others have cleared the arena I have no doubt I will do it myself at some point, even if it takes effort. I'm not the kind that gives up easily.

Mag sorc and magplar are good options for a first clear, my first clear was magsorc, the shields, range and mobility help lots, and well if you get stuck you can just wipe a few times while building up overload and just nuke your way through your obstacle

I did it on a reactive malubeth transmutation templar for the lolz too, tanky as *** but takes a while to kill things (had to put skoria on for the ice round boss to get more dps)
The most chilled clear i've ever done was with a petsorc running 5p infallible aether 5p elegance 2 lightning staves all crap trait purple gear leftovers i cobbled together to test with, and pretty much just mine camped, shield stacked, and heavy attacked everything to death lol

https://youtu.be/tWSX1cB1jCA

Ch4mpTW · November 2016

LegendaryArcher wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

LegendaryArcher wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

LegendaryArcher wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

****Every run = 2x rewards during the event!!! Get your Maelstrom Weapons!!![/b]

Really? Why giving people false hope? 2x the cancer it is now doesn't make it better in the slightest.

People run it 300, 400, 500+ times and don't get a single usable weapon. If you want that one weapon in Sharpened, you're looking at 1000+ runs. All this event is doing is turning 1000+ into 500+. And no one will run it 500 times in 2 weeks. And even then you're likely to not get that one weapon you want.

So the solution is to never run vMA at all?

This isn't false hope. Double rewards during an event is not false hope. We have a fantastic opportunity here where our chances of getting what we want have literally been doubled.

They are still low ofc, but doubled nonetheless. And people who say they ran vMA 1000 times are lying to you. Did you know I killed Molag Kena 4,275 times exactly and still no Light armor helms dropped for me? (-_-) *hint hint

Instead of being that doom & gloom guy that everyone steers clear from to avoid getting depressed, maybe you could focus on hekping people who struggle to beat vMA get through it during a time where they can potentially fit in 15 runs and earn the rewards of 30 runs.

We have a guild in Black Desert with over 30 players that quit ESO solely because of not getting their vMA weapons after hundreds of runs (almost 50 ex-ESO players overall that quit for various reasons). Some of them didn't get a single Inferno after 1000+ runs....Overall, I know 7 people that didn't get their Inferno after 1000+ runs, but the other 3 didn't want to come with us to BDO....

....And if you're still skeptical, maybe @Sharmony can tell you about @Decado from his guild, who's still farming for a Sharpened Inferno Staff and is well beyond 1000 runs by now.

Omg..... it makes me want to cry how gullible you are

For the sake of laying things out for you, I'll do the the honors of providing the numbers:

- Orsinium launched November 2, 2015.
- Black Desert online launched March 3, 2016
- Today is November 4, 2016..... so we are talking exactly 368 days since release of Orsinium and 246 days since the release of BDO but only if we are counting up until present day, which we are not even close to according to your examples.
- There was a timespan of 123 days between the launch of Orsinium and Black Desert Online

- 1000 Maelstrom runs means a minimum of 2.72 Maelstrom runs every single day since vMA released. This is assuming we are using 1000 vMA runs for everyone rather than your even more fake "well beyond 1000+" runs statements.
- The people who quit due to vMA did not take 368 days to do it
- Between Orisinium and Black Desert online, it would've taken over 8 runs every single day to reach the numbers you are using. No breaks, no vacations, no school/work, no hanging out outside of ESO, no normal food/sleep schedule, no other content besides vMA, no getting sick or being forced away from ESO under uncontrollable circumstance, no getting tired, nothing - 4 months and 2 days of pure vMA

All in all, there is perhaps maybe a fewl people in all of ESO to break the 1000 vMA run mark, but nothing like you say, and you've been lied to and are choosing to spread these laughably blatant lies.

I'm sorry, but it is simply too difficult to have logical conversations with this type of exaggeration being taken as fact. No one is running vMA this many times. The people who said they were are lying to you and are not even hiding it, and to say you know numerous people to have done it is nonsense. I hope you learn from this post and stop being so easy to lie to

It's (insert insult here) casuals like you who got their stuff spoon-fed to them who make this game bad. Making ridiculous assumptions and insulting other players who invested a lot of lifetime in this game.

- BDO launch has nothing to do with this topic. Zero. When it launched, it was bad. Very bad. There wasn't even a bad luck protection yet, so, due to the extremely low drop chances, it was even worse than ESO. I started playing it in June (on and off, sometimes coming back to ESO for vMA; I had my last 99 runs when they implemented the 100% drop chance), while I started actively promoting BDO in ESO somewhere in the end of August and moved part of my ESO guild there in September (yes, people were still running vMA at that point).

- If you're part of the end game community, you will see that true vMA fans that are competing for the leaderboard are still running it at least 3+ times a day on different classes just for practice/tactics refinement.

- When I came back after 100% drop chance and ran vMA, 5 runs were taking me slightly more than 3 hours (like 3:10 to 3:15).

- You seem to be very communicative on the forums. However, I doubt you are in game. Are you even part of the end game community? How can you not know people that ran it 1000+ times? And by knowing I mean actually seeing it on a daily basis, discussing it with them, offering them daily runs to take a break?

- There are different kinds of competitive players. But what they all, including myself, have in common, is the desire to be the best. And if it means running vMA till your hands bleed, so be it. It might shock you, but there are many end-game players that don't work. Not so many on the casual front though. Some have worked a lot in a shorter timespan and have earned enough money to sustain themselves and their families without working. Those people are just taking a break from "work", following their hobbies (like gaming) and waiting for an interesting project to come up. Others come from rich families and never plan to work. I know one in ESO (but who would out oneself like that to "workers"?... when that girl did, she received lots of passive hate). Others don't work because they're sick. Actually, a big portion of players that don't work are gaming all day due to a sickness (mostly cancer, autoimmune diseases, disabled after an accident, etc.). I knew at least 10 in ESO. And, of course, those without work - in a country where they can afford it *cough* Germany *cough* Hartz 4 *cough*. They have more money than they need, an apartment, a computer, internet, and even get an additional "Alcohol Allowance" in case they're alcoholics, because hey, Alcohol is a disease, right? I met only few of them in ESO, but LOTS in other online games. Many of them are also very smart and, while taking the money from the state, additionally make a fortune with gold selling in games. I know one of the most successful gold sellers in ESO is one of those (unemployed "Hartz 4-Empfänger" in Germany).

- Fun fact: I don't get sick much, max. once a year, but when I got sick, I was running vMA all day.

Sorry, @Vaoh, but you are just an ignorant casual (and I don't mean casual as an insult, most players are, especially in ESO) who has probably gotten all vMA weapon he needs before DB, and have never been part of the true end game community (which is much bigger on EU than on NA, but still... at least you would know Streak on NA, and if you did, you'd know that he's gotten his very first Sharpened Inferno somewhere around 1800 runs; and yes, he actually ran it 2000+ times; probably running it right now as we speak, don't ask me why, I will never understand some people).

@Vaoh isn't a casual. Trust me. I've played with him in-game tons of times. Not to mention he's the only player on all platforms of the game to solo Veteran White-Gold tower to my knowledge. That accomplishment in and of itself doesn't sound like something a casual would do. But, that's a topic in and of itself.

Back onto topic. I myself have ran VMA well over 100 times. Probably over 200 times. I've lost count, to be honest. But, I can tell you this. Since post-DB, I've gotten plenty of sharpened Maelstrom weapons. I even made a thread about a sharpened Maelstrom Bow I received angrily, after I had gotten tons of them pre-DB. But, no sharpened magicka weapons outside of 1 sharpened restoration staff which was received pre-DB. It was actually obtained on my 90-something run, and was the first staff oriented weapon I had received from the final chest. I even made a thread about it, or a post. 1 or the other.

But anyway, you're spreading a tad bit of exaggerated misinformation. Is RNG horrible? Without a doubt. It's atrocious. But does that mean that people for the most part during this event won't get the weapons they're after? No, and not at all. In fact, I'll be personally coming back to play ESO during this timeframe in hopes of getting a sharpened destruction staff. Upon completion, I'll be making a thread about my findings, and which weapons and traits I received at the end.

Brugaz · November 2016

Ran VMA four times ~2 weeks after release on my mag sorc. got 3 sharpened weapons I'm still using, RNG was good for me there. Never did it again but might give it a new try this week to go for a bow

BlackguardBob · November 2016

I would if I could but I can't so I shan't. lol

Bobby_V_Rockit · November 2016

Yeah, not much incentive to run it the first time if the reward is a one in a thousand shot of getting. Why bother really

Destruent · November 2016

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Yep there's definitely no hardcore gamers on console, we're all filthy casuals.
I mean that Fredee guy on ps4 EU top of all vMA class leaderboards with petty 590k+ scores on each is such a casual, i mean he doesn't even use buff timers/trackers and addons, What a casual.

Get the *** out of here with the pc master race ***, you're version of the game runs better than ours and you have addons on top of that, yet consolers acheive the same results.

That's pretty impresive tbh @SublimeSparo

Maybe you console-guys could ask woeler to incorporate console-scores into his esoleaderboards-project? Maybe this would help to show us PC-players, that console isn't that far behind (if they are even behind anywhere), bc atm we have no possibility to see this.
But i have no idea if it's even possible without transferring all the data manually

PS: Or is there a website which shows console-scores?

Asardes · November 2016

probablyafk wrote: »

I wanted to start this ... went out to Wrothgar, started looking at videos for strategies. And realised it takes a long time to complete. I don't necessarily mind spending an hour in a single player instance but to not be able to leave my seat for that time is kinda difficult. Have a young baby and a busy job so time is hard to come by. And that's not including the time to learn it by wrote.

Honestly, I kinda don't want to do the same thing over and over and over - with the RNG factor here not only do I have to learn this thing, then there's hour long runs repeatably to not have an end goal in mind.

Not really the end game experience I'm after.

You can pause between rounds if you're not running for high scores. Otherwise no need to hold your wee