It'd be nice if people didn't stand in red, but I've become accustomed to healing through standing in red as long as it isn't oneshot red.

My main is a tank which I played alnost exclusively for over a year but recently i have been leveling DD'S for fun. When I play group content now I am still learning that I am not invincible and often I stand in the red. For that time a tracking I rarely needed to take the red stuff seriously (of course some situations I had to and knew to).

My comrades give me a lot of stick about it and rightly so but they do it in a friendly manner as they know I am learning.

I hope you guys are as supportive of those that you are playing with that are also learning and letting them know in a constructive manner.

Kick em and claim my finger slipped

Ask if they usually play solo. I am usually solo and can take the red circles pretty decently by myself, but around bosses of course and dungeons I forget I can't take that hard of a hit.

Just in case this is a serious discussion about colour blindness (which it probably is not); I have a red / green weakness. But I'm fine with the cues that ESO offers on screen. However, when a friend in game told me he really struggled I suggested to him to use this add-on http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info82-SimpleCombatAlerts.html

He did considerably better in the next dungeon.

Kammakazi wrote: »

and he/she repeatedly blames the rest of the team for failure to complete the dungeon/defeat the boss.

What do you do?

If he's a pug, stop healing and let him die while I type a long explanation of why he's making us fail (when I pug its 90% of the times on my healer).
If he's a guildie, laugh at him until he stops... or not, some of them are known for living in the red, but we all love each other.

I blame the tank. He should have positioned the boss the way so he won't place red circles under me.

daemonios wrote: »

I joined some guildies I didn't know yesterday for the gold pledge (vet BC). I couldn't believe how much damage those DDs could take! We made it through without much of an issue, though I had to cast BoL as every second skill. Obviously they didn't bother to debuff themselves at the last boss after they'd been taken up in the air, so after Rilis was dead I let them die (I did explain to them why they died, though).

Their DPS wasn't bad, but their awareness and positioning were appalling. These are the kind of players who complain WGT and ICP can't be done, I think.

So true.

I know those PUGs where players do not know (or actively ignore) the endboss mechanic concerning the bubbles and that you have to debuff them in the correct fields (blue/red). Same here, I try to heal through during the boss fight but let them die in the end.

Healing is teamwork in this game. It's healing + active damage avoidance.

I try to be responsible and move out of the red and in fairness I'm a whole lot better than many out there. But sometimes I'm just to slow to respond or am not familiar with the boss mechanics. Other times, the lure of maintaining a good dps is just too much, especially given the insight provided by the 'group damage' add-on. Getting those extra 500 dps, even if I was to die, is not only useful for a willy-waving contest but also helps getting kicked from those elitist pug groups for being the 'under-performer'.

I keep reminding myself that a dead dd deals no dps, actually think I'm going to put that in my 'tagline'.






<Just in case you missed it, this post is full of sarcasm, except the last bit, oh, and the first bit about trying to move out.>

I'd play along...

Me: "oh my, im sorry you died, what killed you?"
Them: "Replies"

Me: "And what was the damage value?"
Them: "Replies"

Me: " and do you know what move causes that"
Them: "replies"

Me: "Thats right, the red Sh*t on the floor"
them: "replies"

Me: " heal you through it is my job, quite, Thats exactly what i did, thats why the total damage done by the move was 3-5 times your health pool. but at some point Darwinism kicks in, and we cull the heard for the betterment of humanity"

*kick from group*

Tbh. it comes down to case by case for me. I heal good damage dealers that stand in red circles, because they manage to burn down the boss before they die. I burn all my magicka here..

I heal anyone with color blindness to a reasonable extend. I won't sacrefice the whole team and all my magicka to heal that one person, but if I can manage to keep the team alive + them, then I will.

Bad DD with bad attitude, no sense of own responsibility and high expectations of the rest of the team = let die to save rest of team, and avoid ever grouping with that person in the future.

This discussion joins a problem that interests me, it s the fact that all these circles look just the same

hydrocynus wrote: »

...)My main is a tank (...) but recently i have been leveling DD'S for fun. When I play group content now I am still learning that I am not invincible and often I stand in the red. For that time a tracking I rarely needed to take the red stuff seriously(...

wwusterbarthub17_ESO wrote: »

...)I am usually solo and can take the red circles pretty decently by myself, but around bosses of course and dungeons I forget I can't take that hard of a hit.

It would be nice if the color of circles changed from an almost yellow orange to a very deep red following the damage dealt by the AOE. In some cases if you re tanky and the effect not so strong standing in the middle is a perfectly valid choice, others it s "out of here asap".

Also the borders of the circle could have a different shape following the type of damage and effects: little flames if it s fire, some other symbol for snares, etc, etc...

Sometimes in PvP and some dungeons you have so many circles around, overlapping etc plus other things you gotta pay attention to that placement can quickly become erratic. So more one-glance info would be nice.

Maybe an addon does it already or could do it.