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Should the ESO forums bring back the LOL reactions?
arena25
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In your honest opinion, should the ESO forums bring back the LOL reaction that was removed from the forums a while ago?
Edited by arena25 on May 4, 2015 9:14PM If you can't handle the heat...stay out of the kitchen!
Should the ESO forums bring back the LOL reactions? 167 votes
YES! I wish I could give appreciation for people's humor.
68%
115 votes
Yes, but on certain conditions (explain below)
2%
4 votes
No. (Explain below)
16%
28 votes
I don't care/Wait and See/Casual observer
9%
16 votes
Are you insane, Arena25? Do you need see a psychologist? (Explain below)
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4 votes
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arena25✭✭✭✭✭YES! I wish I could give appreciation for people's humor.Voting on my own poll...
Yes! I see funny things, and I can't show that I appreciate their humor. Please bring back the LOL reaction.
Oh, and bring back the funny (and cute) cat and kitten pictures.If you can't handle the heat...stay out of the kitchen!3 -
I don't care/Wait and See/Casual observerNo cheese option. [/topic]
Actually, I'm not voting because I have no idea what you're talking about.
Care to elaborate? Explain what you're talking about to those who haven't been around long?0 -
Xendyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YES! I wish I could give appreciation for people's humor.Of course, we all know it wasn't being used to appreciate humor
That said, it would save the Mods a lot of time editing out people's posts.
lolLag is ruinin' my 'mershun!
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Pappa✭✭✭YES! I wish I could give appreciation for people's humor.No idea why it was removed in the first place
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Zazaaji✭✭✭✭YES! I wish I could give appreciation for people's humor.Muizer BBSooner
As the poll says, please explain why you voted for "No". I'd really like to hear someone's reason for voting that way. I see no downside to adding it back, but fear I might be overlooking something.
EDIT: Removed the calls. ZoS answered.Edited by Zazaaji on May 4, 2015 9:39PMEnglish is not my first language, Finnish is.
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Slurg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YES! I wish I could give appreciation for people's humor.Because some things really do make me laugh out loud.Happy All the Holidays To You and Yours!
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PKMN12✭✭✭✭✭No. (Explain below)IT was being abused to high heaven as a negative reaction, basically a downvote button, instead of being used for what it was meant for. everything lol was MEANT to be used for can basically be done with agree
if they actually HAD a downvote feature, then that would be one thing, but abusing another reaction type instead is stupid.c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »No cheese option. [/topic]
Actually, I'm not voting because I have no idea what you're talking about.
Care to elaborate? Explain what you're talking about to those who haven't been around long?
in beta and i think early release, there used to be a 4th reaction button called LOL, that was MEANT to be used as a button for funny posts, instead it got used basically as a downvote button, so they got rid of it because people were not using the feature as it was intended and instead as an insult.Edited by PKMN12 on May 4, 2015 9:30PM5 -
BBSooner✭✭✭✭✭
✭No. (Explain below)
The LOL option was previously abused as a snarky response. Despite efforts to make one of the remaining 3 buttons the replacement as the new snarky disagree button, it never took hold.
I won't say that the use of LOL in that manner bothered me, but since the remaining 3 options adequately cover the readers response (and that 'awesome' could be considered an appropriate response to a funny post ... enough so that a proper LOL could be considered redundant) I don't feel like LOL is needed. I am of the opinion that most efforts for it to return are just attempts to get a snarky disagree button back.3 -
Zazaaji✭✭✭✭YES! I wish I could give appreciation for people's humor.IT was being abused to high heaven as a negative reaction, basically a downvote button, instead of being used for what it was meant for. everything lol was MEANT to be used for can basically be done with agree
if they actually HAD a downvote feature, then that would be one thing, but abusing another reaction type instead is stupid.
@PKMN12
I see your point in that case, if it was used as a "Disagree" button by forum veterans. Some people would likely vote for it thinking it was actually for a LOL reaction (forum new comers), others would vote for it thinking it was supposed to be forum slang for "Disagree".
Maybe they should add both a "LOL" and a "Disagree" button? Frankly a formal "Disagree" button would be useful in some cases.Edited by Zazaaji on May 4, 2015 9:31PMEnglish is not my first language, Finnish is.
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ZOS_AlanGadmin
The LOL tag was sometimes abused, which is why it was removed. For example, people would LOL posts they disagreed with, and on some occasions would systematically LOL all recent posts by a particular member. While far from heavy trolling, it was misused like this with a fair frequency, and occasionally contributed to escalating tensions or other problems. These issues eventually outweighed any good it was contributing, which is why we decided to remove it.
At the moment we aren't considering a return of the LOL flag. However, we certainly don't mind discussion of bringing it back.
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Zazaaji✭✭✭✭YES! I wish I could give appreciation for people's humor.
@ZOS_AlanG
The LOL tag was sometimes abused, which is why it was removed. For example, people would LOL posts they disagreed with, and on some occasions would systematically LOL all recent posts by a particular member. While far from heavy trolling, it was misused like this with a fair frequency, and occasionally contributed to escalating tensions or other problems. These issues eventually outweighed any good it was contributing, which is why we decided to remove it.
At the moment we aren't considering a return of the LOL flag. However, we certainly don't mind discussion of bringing it back.
You just confirmed exactly what @PKMN12 said, thank you. I shall share my opinion with you too: Why not add a "LOL" button again, but along with a new actual "Disagree" button? If one member is found abusing the "Disagree" button, maybe there can be some method to ban them from using any of those buttons? Let's face it, if they'll abuse a "Disagree" button, they'll likely abuse "Agree", "Insightful", or "Awesome" too.
Edited by Zazaaji on May 4, 2015 9:36PMEnglish is not my first language, Finnish is.
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RSram✭✭✭✭✭I don't care/Wait and See/Casual observerThe reason they removed it was because of trolling where a player would post something serious and another player would respond with a LOL, just to get a response from the OP. In the age of Internet bullying, I think LOL was removed to prevent a player from getting offended. I personally don't care one way or another.
We live in a politically correct world.1 -
arena25✭✭✭✭✭YES! I wish I could give appreciation for people's humor.
@ZOS_AlanG
The LOL tag was sometimes abused, which is why it was removed. For example, people would LOL posts they disagreed with, and on some occasions would systematically LOL all recent posts by a particular member. While far from heavy trolling, it was misused like this with a fair frequency, and occasionally contributed to escalating tensions or other problems. These issues eventually outweighed any good it was contributing, which is why we decided to remove it.
At the moment we aren't considering a return of the LOL flag. However, we certainly don't mind discussion of bringing it back.
You just confirmed exactly what @PKMN12 said, thank you. I shall share my opinion with you too: Why not add a "LOL" button again, but along with a new actual "Disagree" button?
What he said.If you can't handle the heat...stay out of the kitchen!2 -
arena25✭✭✭✭✭YES! I wish I could give appreciation for people's humor.
The LOL tag was sometimes abused, which is why it was removed. For example, people would LOL posts they disagreed with, and on some occasions would systematically LOL all recent posts by a particular member. While far from heavy trolling, it was misused like this with a fair frequency, and occasionally contributed to escalating tensions or other problems. These issues eventually outweighed any good it was contributing, which is why we decided to remove it.
At the moment we aren't considering a return of the LOL flag. However, we certainly don't mind discussion of bringing it back.
Thanks, ZOS. As @Zazaaji said, why not bring back the lol, but with a disagree button as well? That actually might solve a few problems, unless I'm blindly overlooking something.If you can't handle the heat...stay out of the kitchen!1 -
Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Before they bring back the LOL button or anything else, they really need to add a DISAGREE button.
Until they do this, there is always going to be confusion and mayhem on the forums because of people re-purposing other buttons to express disagreement. For example, I get "Awesome" clicks all the time, but does it really mean people think I'm awesome, or are they just [snip] with me? LOL, without a "Disagree" button as an option, I'll never know!
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on May 5, 2015 12:05AM#CAREBEARMASTERRACE5 -
BBSooner✭✭✭✭✭
✭No. (Explain below)
@ZOS_AlanG
The LOL tag was sometimes abused, which is why it was removed. For example, people would LOL posts they disagreed with, and on some occasions would systematically LOL all recent posts by a particular member. While far from heavy trolling, it was misused like this with a fair frequency, and occasionally contributed to escalating tensions or other problems. These issues eventually outweighed any good it was contributing, which is why we decided to remove it.
At the moment we aren't considering a return of the LOL flag. However, we certainly don't mind discussion of bringing it back.
You just confirmed exactly what @PKMN12 said, thank you. I shall share my opinion with you too: Why not add a "LOL" button again, but along with a new actual "Disagree" button? If one member is found abusing the "Disagree" button, maybe there can be some method to ban them from using any of those buttons? Let's face it, if they'll abuse a "Disagree" button, they'll likely abuse "Agree", "Insightful", or "Awesome" too.
Without a disagree button, a person who disagrees is more likely to partake in a discussion as opposed to simply clicking "disagree" and move on. This behavior is fine for people who agree, since no difference in opinion exists.2 -
Heromofo✭✭✭✭✭YES! I wish I could give appreciation for people's humor.I thought the new lol button/ disagree button was insightful?6 -
arena25✭✭✭✭✭YES! I wish I could give appreciation for people's humor.Emma_Eunjung wrote: »Before they bring back the LOL button or anything else, they really need to add a DISAGREE button.
Until they do this, there is always going to be confusion and mayhem on the forums because of people re-purposing other buttons to express disagreement. For example, I get "Awesome" clicks all the time, but does it really mean people think I'm awesome, or are they just [snip] with me? LOL, without a "Disagree" button as an option, I'll never know!
Big f'n YAY for that idea. And good explanation. You deserve the "Idea of the Day" Award, and Im not kidding.
[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on May 5, 2015 12:07AMIf you can't handle the heat...stay out of the kitchen!1 -
Yolokin_Swagonborn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YES! I wish I could give appreciation for people's humor.Bring back the LOLS! Yes I am aware that the usage of LOL was nuanced but that was half the fun!
How the hell am I supposed to calculate my Agree/LOL ratio now?1 -
arena25✭✭✭✭✭YES! I wish I could give appreciation for people's humor.The reason they removed it was because of trolling where a player would post something serious and another player would respond with a LOL, just to get a response from the OP. In the age of Internet bullying, I think LOL was removed to prevent a player from getting offended. I personally don't care one way or another.
We live in a politically correct world.
And that is a shame.
But yeah, let's add a disagree button. If anything it might reduce the amount of trolling...If you can't handle the heat...stay out of the kitchen!0 -
Zazaaji✭✭✭✭YES! I wish I could give appreciation for people's humor.I thought the new lol button/ disagree button was insightful?
I always took that to mean.... insightful. As in, you value the information given. That's why @ZOS_AlanG 's post has 2 "insightful" reactions already.
....Unless of course, insightful is going the way of "LOL".English is not my first language, Finnish is.
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Psychobunni✭✭✭✭✭
✭YES! I wish I could give appreciation for people's humor.
The LOL tag was sometimes abused, which is why it was removed. For example, people would LOL posts they disagreed with, and on some occasions would systematically LOL all recent posts by a particular member. While far from heavy trolling, it was misused like this with a fair frequency, and occasionally contributed to escalating tensions or other problems. These issues eventually outweighed any good it was contributing, which is why we decided to remove it.
At the moment we aren't considering a return of the LOL flag. However, we certainly don't mind discussion of bringing it back.
Well, obviously you guys could tell if someone was forum stalking another simply to LOL all their posts, so perhaps handle that with the same measures as "trolling"?
I did usually use LOL for posts that made me laugh, however sometimes I laughed because it was ridiculous too. Both are valid LOL's in my opinion. A disagree button wouldn't necessarily be the worst thing (assuming again forum stalking was controlled) Not everyone wants to explain the reasons Sorc's are not OP on the 100th nerf Sorc thread for example...
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ZOS_AlanGadminWe actually had the Disagree flag for much of beta, but it was abused in a similar manner. It's less taunting to "Disagree" a post than to "LOL" it, but using it on all of someone's posts was still an issue. We considered bringing it back as part of the overhaul, but eventually decided against it.Forum Rules | Promoting Constructive Discussion | Code of Conduct | Terms of Service | Help Site
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Zazaaji✭✭✭✭YES! I wish I could give appreciation for people's humor.
Thank you for simply summing up why not everyone who would vote for "disagree" would also reply. I was having difficulties figuring out an example. You're exactly right.Psychobunni wrote: »A disagree button wouldn't necessarily be the worst thing (assuming again forum stalking was controlled) Not everyone wants to explain the reasons Sorc's are not OP on the 100th nerf Sorc thread for example...English is not my first language, Finnish is.
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Zazaaji✭✭✭✭YES! I wish I could give appreciation for people's humor.@ZOS_AlanG - Why not add my idea of a "Vote ban" system for the moderators and above then? If someone is shown to abuse the vote system, prevent them from voting for any option at all on any post at all. If they abuse the Disagree or LOL buttons, they'd surely abuse the other three voting options as well.Edited by Zazaaji on May 4, 2015 9:48PMEnglish is not my first language, Finnish is.
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