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ZOS, how rare is the Valkyn Skoria helm supposed to be ?
Myself like many others are running this dungeon multiple times daily for weeks. I am only near the 30 times mark and a percentage of those in hard mode. I have heard of others running over 70-100 times without a drop. Is this intended ?
I know there are other posts on this topic complaining of the abysmal drop rate, however i wanted to see if there are others in the same boat.
How many times did you run before you got your first drop of the helm.
ZOS is this intended ? I love the content and have been loyal since launch, however i am seeing a bit of frustration and disenchantment with this issue and hoping for an answer. In all of the runs i have done i have only seen 2 other group members get a drop also. Wondering if i should submit a bug for myself.
I know there are other posts on this topic complaining of the abysmal drop rate, however i wanted to see if there are others in the same boat.
How many times did you run before you got your first drop of the helm.
ZOS is this intended ? I love the content and have been loyal since launch, however i am seeing a bit of frustration and disenchantment with this issue and hoping for an answer. In all of the runs i have done i have only seen 2 other group members get a drop also. Wondering if i should submit a bug for myself.
Selcouth Nexus V16 Templar Magika Healer/Dps
Mrs Schadenfreude V16 Magika Sorc Dps/off heals
Malevolent Lust v16 DK Stam Dps/tank
Mephala's Rage v16 NB Magika Dps
Lara Nipplestorm v16 DK Magika DPS
Mrs Schadenfreude V16 Magika Sorc Dps/off heals
Malevolent Lust v16 DK Stam Dps/tank
Mephala's Rage v16 NB Magika Dps
Lara Nipplestorm v16 DK Magika DPS
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✭I got it on my first run (normal mode). I still don't have the master restoration staff after countless runs in VR DSA. ALL HAIL the RNG gods !Edited by Sotha_Sil on April 29, 2015 11:34AMRestoration is a perfectly valid school of magic, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise! - Spells and incantations for those with the talent to cast them!1 -
Jorgeaux✭3 runs, 2 helmets ( 1 heavy and 1 medium ).
Still doing gold pledges for the shoulders, more than 30 boxes oppened
AD Nightblade v14
You name it, I get it.0 -
Beesting✭✭✭✭I got my first well fitted medium one on run 2 , then the second heavy impena on run 43 , then heavy divines on run 49', then heavy infused on run 59, that was they day before 1.6 came out. All but two runs were on hardmode
So that is the one i use. Now i occasionally do runs and i am at 74 runs now, haven't got another helm
After like 90 pledge runs i still only have one pair of light well fitted shoulders, i have givem up on the idea of ever seeing another pair
I do use the heavy divines shoulders and light infused helm of the engine guardian in pvp though, it certainly works better to have loads of free health, magica and stamina instead of hoping a meteor will drop on a moving target, especially because valkyn skoria drops meteors often just after the target died
Valkyn rules on trash mobs in veteran dungeons though for my dk fire dot build. But on pvp players not so much xDBeesting, Bosmer Magica DK, AD EU, crafter
Slager, Dunmer Magica DK, DC EU, pvp
Farmer, Dunmer Magica DK, AD EU, trials build
Every major patch looks like the end of the world but somehow i just cannot stop playing.1 -
Robbmrp✭✭✭✭✭
✭It can't be that rare when running around Rawlkha from the wayshrine to the smith station you can easily see 10 people with it every hour of the day.....NA Server - Kildair5 -
Osteos✭✭✭✭✭
✭I haven't received either piece. The undaunted chest loves giving me blood spawn shoulders though. I have a large variety of those.
My friend got the Valkyn head on his very first run >.>DAGGERFALL COVENANTNA PCFormer Vehemence MemberOnistka Valerius <> Artemis Renault <> Gonk gra-Ugrash <> Karietta <> Zercon at-Rusa <> Genevieve Renault <> Ktaka <> Brenlyn Renault0 -
ZOS_JessicaFolsomCommunity ManagerWe just looked over the Valkyn Skoria helm droprate compared to similar helms, including Mephala's helm and Blood Spawn's helm. They all have the same droprate. They are intended to be rare, but not to a crazy degree.7 -
Stamden✭✭✭✭✭
✭I got it on my first run, and pretty much everyone has gotten it within 5 runs. You ran it 30+ times? That's complete BS and you know it.PC NA
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jluceyub17_ESO✭✭✭I got it on my first run, and pretty much everyone has gotten it within 5 runs. You ran it 30+ times? That's complete BS and you know it.
Can't tell if trolling or oblivious.....
You only know extremely lucky people if they all got it within their first 5 tries. I'm in the 15-20 completions range with 0 head pieces to show for it.2 -
Bfish22090✭✭✭✭✭I didn't get it until my 14th run and haven't gotten another and I'm on 22nd run currently0
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I got it on my first run, and pretty much everyone has gotten it within 5 runs. You ran it 30+ times? That's complete BS and you know it.
Check my account if you want, no helm, been running solid two weeks now, hard cause I am a shift workers. Even completion on hard mode makes no differenceSelcouth Nexus V16 Templar Magika Healer/Dps
Mrs Schadenfreude V16 Magika Sorc Dps/off heals
Malevolent Lust v16 DK Stam Dps/tank
Mephala's Rage v16 NB Magika Dps
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He's oblivious. I have had so many go through my hands that it's a joke. I have guildies whom I have been running through nearly non-stop who are on 50+ runs without a drop. This is verified by loot tracker add-ons.jluceyub17_ESO wrote: »I got it on my first run, and pretty much everyone has gotten it within 5 runs. You ran it 30+ times? That's complete BS and you know it.
Can't tell if trolling or oblivious.....
You only know extremely lucky people if they all got it within their first 5 tries. I'm in the 15-20 completions range with 0 head pieces to show for it.Edited by Shunravi on April 29, 2015 8:16PMThis one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!0 -
grimsfield✭✭✭
But yeah. When the RNG in this game hates you, it REALLY hates you...
The RNG in this game, as concerned to loot, is not really RNG. How many times have you been waiting for months for something like the engine gaurdian epaulets to drop for you, when all of a sudden two pairs drop one after the other. Same goes for Master weapons and weekly rewards. Even trial rewards; loot drops in bunches. The loot drop in this game is not completely random and it really could be worked better.2 -
daswahnsinn✭✭✭ZOS want players to grind but not get too much XP or any good items that make the grind worth doing. Also all efforts are going into the console released since it'll be the next cash grab. Hopefully it works so we can finally see something new but we have to wait and see.| | daswahnsinn | Vet 16 Nord Dragon Knight | Bow/Dual Wield/Two-Handed Sword| DPS | | Warrior of the EbonHeart Pact | |0 -
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✭42 and counting and I still do NOT have the helm. I gave up and moved on. Not worth my time or effort anymore. Have got about 14 or so of the shoulders though.......so....I gave up1 -
Grao✭✭✭✭✭
✭I got it on my first run, and pretty much everyone has gotten it within 5 runs. You ran it 30+ times? That's complete BS and you know it.
Why would you say it is BS? Ive done CoA 30+ and only ever got one Light and Sturdy Valkyn Head. RNG in this game is rather sad, why I would love to see such rare drops be trade-enabled within the group completing the Dungeon/Trial/DSA.
I've also been hunting an Inferno Master Staff to no success and I've ran Normal + Vet DSA about 50 times or more now.ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »We just looked over the Valkyn Skoria helm droprate compared to similar helms, including Mephala's helm and Blood Spawn's helm. They all have the same droprate. They are intended to be rare, but not to a crazy degree.
I understand why those sets are made so rare, to keep us revisiting that content, but why not at least remove the useless traits from the loot table? ZoS removed Sturdy from the shoulder drops, please do the same for Well Fitted and Exploration traits to both shoulders and Head alike.5 -
Suru✭✭✭✭I got it on my first run, and pretty much everyone has gotten it within 5 runs. You ran it 30+ times? That's complete BS and you know it.
Why would you say it is BS? Ive done CoA 30+ and only ever got one Light and Sturdy Valkyn Head. RNG in this game is rather sad, why I would love to see such rare drops be trade-enabled within the group completing the Dungeon/Trial/DSA.
I've also been hunting an Inferno Master Staff to no success and I've ran Normal + Vet DSA about 50 times or more now.ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »We just looked over the Valkyn Skoria helm droprate compared to similar helms, including Mephala's helm and Blood Spawn's helm. They all have the same droprate. They are intended to be rare, but not to a crazy degree.
I understand why those sets are made so rare, to keep us revisiting that content, but why not at least remove the useless traits from the loot table? ZoS removed Sturdy from the shoulder drops, please do the same for Well Fitted and Exploration traits to both shoulders and Head alike.
To be fair tho DSA is significantly harder to get what you want. 3 destro staves, Reso, 2h, Dagger, 1H, Bow, vr14 Healer, Footman and archers mind gear. Add in a specific trait, then the odds are exponentially harder.
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✭✭✭✭✭grimsfield wrote: »
But yeah. When the RNG in this game hates you, it REALLY hates you...
The RNG in this game, as concerned to loot, is not really RNG. How many times have you been waiting for months for something like the engine gaurdian epaulets to drop for you, when all of a sudden two pairs drop one after the other. Same goes for Master weapons and weekly rewards. Even trial rewards; loot drops in bunches. The loot drop in this game is not completely random and it really could be worked better.
Look up Gambler's Fallacy. You are taking the results of a small sample size and judging them against the expected results of a large sample size. What you are seeing is not only random but expected in any truly random system. If the Engine Guardian shoulders have a, say, 1 in 100 chance of dropping, and they really did drop like clockwork every 100 rolls, that would be a strong indication of artificial, non-random intervention. Seeing sporadic, unexpected feasts and famines is typical of a truly random system.9 -
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✭Would be nice if they add an option to change traits on an item or give vet dugns a hard mode option (which has a 100% chance of a helm drop)
Since vCoH is already V14, maybe make hard mode be if you do a no death run, you get a helm 100%5 -
Huggernaut✭✭✭✭Yes I would definitely like to see certain systems as suggested above, be it :
- BOP items can be traded within the group for set period of time when they, but only with members of the group that were there and active for the boss kill.
- A token system where each boss drops a number of tokens which can be turned in to the undaunted for a specific piece of gear upon reaching a specific number of them. Call it a failsafe to prevent bad RNG from driving players away.
Because @ZOS_JessicaFolsom as others have stated above, the RNG can swing pretty wildly in this game. It's nice to have a plan B
Edited by Huggernaut on April 29, 2015 9:53PM1 -
jluceyub17_ESO✭✭✭It would be nice if the RNG had some way of tracking how many times an account had triggered a certain RNG without receiving an item and slightly increase the odds of that item dropping by little each time the chest/drop occurs.5
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Sensesfail13✭✭✭✭Its mental how hard some of the helmets are to get to dropWisherr, Dragonknight, Haderus, NA Server.
Wisher of Naught, Nightblade, Haderus, NA Server.
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✭Valkyn Skoria.
its a great set dont you think otherwise but its HARDLY the best or only option.
you can do with and without pretty evenly.
I say this because i have done with and without and have no preferance for one over the other...I play every class in every situation. I love them all.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭How do people know it's their 42nd run or 36th or whatever? As other plays have noted, sometimes RNG loves you and sometimes it hates you. I have gotten multiple Valkyn helms to say and can attest that the drop rate is as Gina says, but have finished vet DSA a *lot* (I haven't counted lol) and have gotten so many ice and lightning staffs that i just decon them now but never the fire staff which is the only master weapon I ever wanted.Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.0 -
Drops like these are usually around 1% or less in games like these. What really needs to be done is ZOS mods this helm because it is a fact that when there is like a dozen 'helm' items and this is the one that is farmed for, imbalance exists.
Beyond that, put in the work and roll your 1% ish chance each time.Astaria DødfurstinnaOfficial Hunter Community Lead DAOC(Pendragon Beta through Catacombs release)Look at this but dont QQ: http://pcpartpicker.com/b/hfxYcf0 -
riverdragon72✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »We just looked over the Valkyn Skoria helm droprate compared to similar helms, including Mephala's helm and Blood Spawn's helm. They all have the same droprate. They are intended to be rare, but not to a crazy degree.
There are helmets to all those shoulder pads? huh.Meh...**** it..2 -
Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ZoS could make most of the complaining go away by simply making all these items Bind-on-Equip. Then people who got the Light helm (when they wanted the Heavy) could sell it for gold and buy the one they wanted from some other guy who didn't get the one he wanted.
.Edited by Emma_Overload on April 29, 2015 11:01PM#CAREBEARMASTERRACE5 -
inMorsAeterna✭✭✭Valkyn Skoria is practically the best set in the game. Of course its not easy to get, nor should it be.Edited by inMorsAeterna on April 30, 2015 12:05AM1 -
Rhakon✭✭✭why should a casual who wants enjoy the game, do the same content 20 times + for one item?
that makes no sense.
i went 30 times+ into spindle for blood spawn for me it was no problem making xp for CS or epix for crafting.
this helms and shoulders are not behind advancing content, thats the problem.
there is no developing or progress in difficulty , you just farm it.
that's boring and unnecessary.
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Valymer✭✭✭✭✭The_Death_Princess wrote: »Beyond that, put in the work and roll your 1% ish chance each time.
Work? And here I thought this was a game we play for fun.3
